To the people that were against trumps strike on iran.
Why have a military if you are never going to use it ? Why sit back and watch your enemies grow in power ?
Why wait until someone attacks you first ?

>>508693314 (OP)
they're just jealous of success/power

Iran isn't our enemy, it's israel's. And israel, being our parasite, is our enemy too.

>>508693572
But the united states will never strike or doesnt have the power to beat russia china and nk. So we are fucked.

>>508693314 (OP)
1: he pulled naval assets from Taiwan in the midst of China wargaming an invasion
2: fuck israel. They're like short drunk guys always picking fights then hiding behind their big brother
3: fuck Israel
4: fuck israel
5: fuck globohomo
6: fuck the wef
7: gas the Jews
8: gas Israel
9: nuke NYC and Beverly Hills
10: fuck israel

>>508693314 (OP)
Why can’t Iran have a nuke? Iran a good boy, he dindu nuffin.

>>508693314 (OP)
>use military to wage an offensive war
>0 (zero) (cero) new territory gained

>>508693314 (OP)
>Why have a military if you are never going to use it ?
So you don't get a bunch of people uselessly killed in a war for kikes.
So you don't waste trillions of taxpayer dollars.
So you don't look like a fucking retard on the world stage.

>>508693314 (OP)
It's pathetic.

>>508693314 (OP)
>Why have a military if you are never going to use it ?
The purpose of a moral military is to defend. Not attack.
>Why sit back and watch your enemies grow in power ?
Iran is not an enemy of the US. Maybe Israel, but not us.
>Why wait until someone attacks you first ?
Because if you preemptively attack, you lose the moral high ground. Using your logic, I should preemptively attack you because you're a faggot.

>>508693839
Those countries don't need to be our enemies either, it's all because the US keeps fucking around in places it doesn't belong.

>>508693314 (OP)
I don't talk to jews

>>508693314 (OP)
You already know the answer to that question. The alpha and omega for liberals is that Trump is bad. If Trump wasn't president, they'd be too busy trying to game the government budget for personal gain. Wasting time on diplomatic doctrine is the same as debating Christianity. No matter the question, they're still just going to compare their pointless quotes from the bible and the homosexuals are going to say that their pedophilia is just brotherly love.

Don't bother making a point if you don't have a specific concept that you want to introduce to anyone who isn't just playing with their Peter.

Trump caused the entire problem by backing out of the nuclear deal Obama has set up with Iran. So it's real annoying to go oh well bombing time years later. For a problem Trump caused
All based off what? Kikes saying Iran might have a nuke as Israel has claimed for like 10 years+ now? Ok... Sounds like a repeat of Iraq and WMDs lies... Stop tinkering with other counties damn it. Spend our tax money here, not on bombs etc over there. Least of all because Israel wants it done..

>>508693314 (OP)
>"well we have bombs so obviously we should blow up Israel's enemy for them, even though they don't benefit us in any way and actively harm us in innumerable ways that make you question why we're even allies"

Say what you want but I simply don't believe the persians are ever gonna get a nuke, and definitely never gonna put one on an ICBM with a range to make Americans nervous.
I just don't believe they ever will, this is 100% Israel's problem (which makes it ours, for no good reason).

>>508695138
>Kikes saying Iran might have a nuke as Israel has claimed for like 10 years+ now?
kek try 40.
This is why I simply don't believe the current claims, they cried wolf longer than most anons have drawn breath.

>>508693572
This.
Glownigger OP can quit talking and get right back to having their tongues on our anuses

>>508693314 (OP)
>Why have a military if you are never going to use it ?
our military should be strictly defensive, we should get rid of the standing army, navy, etc. and keep only the national guard, coast guard and air national guard. Green berets, devgru and cag should be rolled in with cia.
>Why sit back and watch your enemies grow in power ?
why have enemies in the first place? Iran was a strong ally for most of our history, they even use mostly american weapons to this day. We have enemies because we support pissrael, we should stop doing this
>Why wait until someone attacks you first ?
there isnt a single military power that can even reach the USA, much less make an amphibious landing with enough troops to take over anything. We have fought so many wars for absolutely no reason

>>508694620
Id swear the general concept of preemptively striking everyone around is jewish core doctrine. It's just so constant in every aspect of everything they say. Even when they try to concern troll or argue, they'll lead with some insult or another.

let me explain this to you low iq mutts in real simple terms:
1.you keep doing regime change and bombing around the world
2. people get really angry and do "le terrorism" against you
3. you get further involved in pointless conflicts around the world

>>508693314 (OP)
To the op who thinks the illegal strikes on iran were good. Why do you think you MUST use military? Why do you think innocents should die? Why do you sit back in your armchair wishing death on people you never met?
Why not attack first and provoke every enemy on earth since its a future possibility one of the 200 countries will attack first?
Why are (R)etards so warmongering and death seeking?

>>508693314 (OP)
Why so scared to fight China and Russia?

>>508693314 (OP)
>enemies
Israel is our enemy in the Middle East. Iran is our enemy's enemy, so we should be happy about them getting nukes. Epstein Island was an act of war.

We don't want American troops on Australian soil if they are going to carry out unprovoked attacks against third countries, we don't want US troops who commit war crimes in our backyards and we don't want rogue elements of the US army who refuse to obey their own democratic government

Burgerus etus domus

>>508693572
>Iran isn't our enemy

Um... yes they are.

>>508696025
They have real nukes, not imaginary ones.
We only fuck around with countries we pretend are dangerous.

I was against the strike because historical precedence has never been to just drop some performative bombs and move on without larger plans of regime change, and that still hasn't been ruled out entirely unless you really want to take Trump's word for it that he's 100% done getting involved. The problem is, no one knows whether trump is serious about anything. Even Trump doesn't seem to know when he's serious. The only reason we don't already have boots on ground is because internal polling told him that 90% of his voter base and 100% of his opposition are against foreign intervention in this war. Of course a bunch of bullshit polls dropped to gaslight all the war detractors into supporting his decision to get involved, but it didn't work, at least not to the extent that he had hoped. So, after dropping bombs and talking about regime change, he pulled a reluctant 180(for now) in order to save face with his base. If you want to believe that this whole op was 4d chess or whatever tf(or if you want to gaslight everyone that it was) that's fine, but the entire operation was clearly a complete cluster fuck that revealed how compromised trump and his inner circle of mossad influencers are. Catturd, bennyjewnson, Laura jewmer, etc all removed any doubt from the case that they work for Israel. If you walked away from this believing the bullshit that everything worked out according to plan, you're exactly what Trump's Jewish handlers were hoping for. The fact is: if you don't want trump getting involved in foreign wars or rug pulling any other campaign promises, you need to speak the fuck up when he starts going off track and his kike influencers start gaslighting everyone to "TrUsT ThE PlAn." Trump works for Israel, but he's still vulnerable to influence from public opinion from his voter base.

>>508693314 (OP)
>Why have a military if you are never going to use it ?
use it to defend OUR OWN BORDER FROM INVASION, you retard.
fuck this whole tongue-up-jews-ass thing.

>>508696494
US military had every chance to get Iran under control over the last 50-80 years, and even ran special operations with boots on the ground. They wouldn't be our enemy today if some boomer warhawk didn't want them to be.

>>508696504
Not even that. They can launch regular missiles on American cities and it will be very bad already. Stock market will crash, red line bad, panic, etc.

>>508693314 (OP)
The only reason to just use the military is for practice / experience and testing of weapons systems in the field. It's too expensive for us to go to war right now and likely the only way to accomplish Israel's objectives is a ground invasion. Which is not worth it

>>508693314 (OP)
>why
>why
>why
Because we're Democrats. We have no moral compass and the only thing we agree on is that we hate Trump. So anything he does we're against. No matter how stupid it makes us look.

>>508696892
>They can launch regular missiles on American cities
Yeah I just don't believe you.
Like Iraq didn't actually have WMDs, and Osama wasn't in Afghanistan all that time.

Fuck off

>>508693314 (OP)
If you are actually the most powerful, then you don't need to worry about someone striking first. Because it would be equal to suicide for the adversary.

>>508693314 (OP)
@grok, how many cease fires has Iran violated?
>2
@grok, how many cease fires has Israel violates?
>962

Oh...

>>508696494
>things went bad after the regime installed by the cia in 1953 fell apart
No shit.
>so we should just regime change even harder
Retarded.
Then again, this is the 'prison/school says this guy won't conform. Let's push him around until he shoots up the school and then use that as an excuse to push around other kids like him even harder'

There are a few parts of this that the media doesn't want to discuss
>State vs. Non state forces
The Geneva convention only applies to state forces and forces acting as such (separatist states), not to terrorists. The issue is that Trump's attack was on the regular Iranian army and so is an undeclared military aggression, violating the Geneva convention. Terrorism when done by an army.
Some will say previous US presidents did the same thing but that's dubious, in most cases the target was a non-state/terror group, so for example in Afghanistan the US was not killing the Afghan army. in Pakistan Obama was not bombing the Pakistani army.
>killing civilians
Trump has deliberately targeted civilians, again. This is something we all know Isreal does, they aren't shy about executing some journalist, teacher, doctor, politico, technician, scientist. We expect better from America. The power difference is so great that killing Iranian civilians is not excusable.
>SALT II
The cold war almost destroyed the earth, it was very, very fucking close. People these days can't even imagine the size of cold war arsenals, the US dominates the world with a fraction of their previous cold war power. A big part of this was the bilateral abandonment of SALT II platforms.
Submarines that can launch nukes with little warning, heavy stealth bombers, hyper-sonic missiles, nukes in orbit.
Trump has brought cold war weapons back into play, in the context of nuclear weapons, and dropped something like 45 metric tons of bomb on a single Iranian facility. The fact he failed to destroy it is just embarrassing, the issue is that nobody wants to see cold war weapons used ever again

>>508693314 (OP)
>why
You've got thirty trillion reasons why lmao

Lmfao @ the retards in this thread trying to say its just let democrats