Government should activly be involved in building affordable homes and keeping rents down.
Young peoples not having affordable housing is a catastrophy for the birth rate since it discourace couples from getting children early, it's also bad for the economy if 50% of post tax income goes to rent.
I think it's more important to ensure young people can start families early then respecting some muh free market principles or some boomer and kikes property rights.
>>508696442 (OP)You kikes should die in a fire.
>>508696442 (OP)Maybe the government wants housing to be high and lowered birthrates so they have an excuse to import infinite slaves to replace you.
>>508696442 (OP)it is a bad problem. it would be like if i bought all the food at the grocery store then sold it back to people at 5x the price. and the only reason renting works is because whites are self governing and will not wreck the place. renting is not profitable with nigs.
>affordable homes
The use of the word affordable in that context is ignorant and strongly points towards communist university retardation.
Arrable Land is a finite commodity, unless someone settles the moon or Antarctica or the gobi dessert there is no surplus land. It's zero sum, so will never be "affordable" in an open market.
The term "affordable" means "cheap enough for me to buy", it's a comment on your own personal finances. It shows no regarded for those poorer than yourself, reeks of middle class bourgeois privilege, gibsmedat logic. If you can't afford a house, you're poor, the house is not "unaffordable"
The issue here is that if you do not respect the principles of western society, you will be met with total opposition, everywhere you go, for all time, and get nowhere. Commie thieves actually get the rope, the only thing you will achieve is getting lynched.
Hitler solved this problem in 1945 with the Labensraum reforms.
>ban debt-capitol in primary markets
>kill all jews
>seize land from neibouring countries
>raise minimum wages
Suddenly everyone can buy land. This is why Hitler was more popular as a dictator than he was as an MP
I said if if we send a letter to all anons one will be the liberian prince
His blood will awake and the spirit will join his knowledge of his own royalty
Anon said what about a mail chain?
>>508696442 (OP)Things will never change until the intelligence agencies, military-industrial-complex lairs and defense contractor facilities are stormed and the glowniggers and parasites who work there are executed and the data they collect is leaked to the public so that the rest of these government assets, zogbots, mercenaries, glorified jannies and authority figures can be hunted down and exterminated.
>>508696442 (OP)Then the bourgeois couldn't threaten you with homelessness if you don't accept a shitty job from them AND the passive income value from their real estate investments would go down, so sorry goyim, no public housing for you.
>>508696442 (OP)>Government should activly be involved in building affordable homesDone. You've been assigned to an apartment block in Mississippi.
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In pseudo-Marxist terms, what we are looking at here is a windfall. A gain someone makes without providing value to the market, free money.
Building a house is very expensive, this isn't an issue with developers, it's an issue with land speculators and so is far more pronounced in rural areas.due to inflation the monetary value of land goes up, which is just free money to anyone endlessly flipping vacant land.
And this gives rise to "rent-seeking" which is basically businesses inuring a fiscal loss to preserve their windfall profits. if a land speculator makes $100,000k for doing nothing, they will pay $80,000 to hold onto that unearned income. That's who pays senators, the land house. So you have land speculators actually paying money to drive up the cost of land, create barriers to buying land.
Anyone who thinks theft and communization is a solution is totally retarded, hasn't even read Marx/ Engels, doesn't even understand the issue
>>508699595commies have read marx, OP is just a nigger
>>508696442 (OP)agree
people should also get a statemandated healthcare with reasonable prices (not like germany tho) and also have some securities in case they become disabled or ill so they get specialized jobs or universal income. Also i suggest to improve the working conditions and make 4 days week mandatory while at the same time make it possible to sustain yourself. the ones who dream about owning a home or a bigger family than 2 children are ofc allowed to work the amount they deem necessary. Any pressure applied from the side of the employer to circumvent this shoudl result in punishment by law
>>508699617Ok so you think we can theoretically lower rent prices artificially, because fuck the market they did it first, if your shell looks prettier than mine but you are always close people don't buy from or from you
>>508699617lmao your solution is "kill jews and invade your neighbors to steal their land"
All communists deserve death.
>>508696442 (OP)>Government should activly be involved in building affordable homes and keeping rents downhave you never heard of section 8?
>>508696442 (OP)Agree. It's the corporations who want to keep home prices high to maximize their profits. More inventory injected by the government reduces demand which reduce prices.
When young couples spend less on rent, they have more disposable income to spend on having children. America needs citizens to own their own homes, not corporations.
>>508699617What a stupid graph.
Why is the supply line "domestic production cost"? And you are saying tariffs are rent seeking? Even if this retarded graph made sense, the price for foreign goods, including tariffs, are still well below the market equilibrium. That means domestic products still won't be sold because there is a surplus of product below their break even point.
In order for this to be rent seeking, the foreign product would have to be above the market equilibrium, and the domestic product would be sold at this price, creating an artificial shortage, and making the price of the product artificially high for consumers.
>>508701020Section 8 is a subsidy program for poorfags that ultimately ends up in the hands of private landlords, not building public housing.
>>508701803so, you want govt to be the landlord, too, bc they run everything so much better? ok.
>we need commie blocks!
>>508701164Corporations keep the prices high because commie queers and militant zionists hosed the bond market with endless gibs and the low risk investment money has to go somewhere. You think Larry wants to deal with real estate bullshit? Fuck no. That's several layers of middle management Larry doesn't need in his life, but Larry has to go where the yield is. Reinstate Glass Steagall and stop printing money and houses will go back to 3x median yearly income so fast your head will spin.
>>508701803>poorfagsyou don't have to be that poor --> https://www.denverhousing.org/housing-choice-vouchers-section8/
>>508702992some high-ass rents in denver
>>508696442 (OP)1 nigger family in my neighborhood is enough.
>>508696442 (OP)Guess which group are the biggest voters, own homes, and would be directly effected by building a glut of homes?
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>>508696442 (OP)Yeah it was called Miljonprogrammet.
>>508703273why? my rent is $183/mo on an $1800/mo apt
>>508703394Because eventually they'll lock the cage door behind you and you'll be forced to live in the same room with 5 somalis. Stack cash and leave.
you're so high on black pills that you don't even know how retarded you sound.
>they're gonna move a bunch of foreigners into your apt! RUN!
>>508696442 (OP)>>508698869>The use of the word affordable in that context is ignorant and strongly points towards communist university retardation.Singapore has almost completely public housing, with over 80% of housing being public and managed by state owned company. Is Singapore communist?
>>508704637>Singaporeimagine these commie blocks full of niggers
>>508705170yeah, they're nice w/o niggers. try that here, kek
The free-rider problem is racial. OP is correct but step one is kicking out tens of millions of people who shouldn't be here, then it'd work like a charm (if not obviate the need for such policy entirely).
>>508704479Why would they not? Your overlords want more cheap labor, and it's their property not yours. All they have to do is raise the rates on single occupancy and import somalis. What are you going to do about it with no money and section 8 credit?
>>508706518you are literally retarded. this apt building is for U.S. veterans, and it is NOT owned by the govt. most occupants are on VASH, the rest get housing authority vouchers.
there will not come a day when that rug is pulled, you fear-mongering faggot
>>508696442 (OP)they built a shitload of affordable govt housing here in the 1960s. they were called "the projects". know where they are now? all torn down because stuffing that much shitty humanity into one location creates problems.
I thought one had to be over eighteen to post here
>>508709000show me ONE example where what you are saying will happen has actually happened. you can't. so fuck off with your infantile delusions.
>look at me! i'm a contrarian on 4chinz! teeheehee
>>508707146>it is NOT owned by the govtwho does? and why won't they change their mind? or ownership?
>>508705455It happens native popilations way of life is more fragile than a hummingbird
One anti communist pro capitalist dictator and bam like the dodo
>>508709899it's owned by a charity for the homeless. they won't change their mind or ownership bc they have guaranteed income from it.
No
https://www.opportunitynowsv.org/blog/public-housings-terrible-track-record-points-to-irredeemable-flaws-says-atlantic
>There are other fantasies in play. The public-housing dream continues in its belief that public ownership can both be competent and, by forgoing profits, provide better value than private ownership does. In this construct, it is only a lack of money that has led to public housing’s decline. Indeed, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio argues that a shortage of funds has led to the degraded conditions of New York City Housing Authority buildings, in which thousands of tenants, in recent winters, have shivered in the cold and the dark.
>Government can do many things well. But there is little evidence that property management is one of them. Anyone who doubts that should read Bart Schwartz’s report on the state of the New York City Housing Authority, owner of 324 housing projects and home to as many as 600,000 residents. The authority, he writes, is “bogged down in layers of bureaucracy or a ‘check the box mentality.’ Among the management challenges we see is the tendency to avoid personal responsibility and accountability … It is no surprise to find that there are many obstacles to the successful completion of projects and work orders.”
>Red tape was one of the causes of the massive leak Schwartz’s investigators discovered at the Polo Grounds housing development. “Our investigator spoke with the superintendent who advised that it was necessary to build a scaffold to make any repairs because the ceiling was about 10 feet high. He said that he had taken steps to order the lumber and that, once the lumber arrived, he would call the carpenters to build the scaffold and then he would call the plumbers.” Such complications are exacerbated by the inflexibility of union contracts for housing-authority employees—contracts that a pro-labor group such as the Democratic Socialists of America, one may assume, is unlikely to try to modify.
>>508709672So you concede the point that there's no reason they wouldn't do that?
>examplesConsider the eviction stops during COVID. Lots of people destroyed their credit during that and now they can only live in section 8. What's the 20 year parth for section 8? Right here
>>508709213 Increasingly small dwellings and homelessness.
Consider also that normal people increasingly despise you getting 100% disability because you had a melanoma in the sandbox.
>>508710362>it's owned by a charity for the homelessWell where does that money come from?
>they won't change their mind or ownership bc they have guaranteed income from itA bunch of welfare queens giving them $200/mo when they know it's worth $1800? They're literally throwing away money holding onto it.
>>508710760>throwing away money holding onto itidiot. they get the other $1600 from the govt, hence GUARANTEED income
>>508710362>they won't change their mind or ownership bc they have guaranteed income from it.lots of landlords who are making a profit sell, that's no guarantee.
>>508696442 (OP)>Government should provide affordable housingno, you dumb fuck. just no.. get off your ass and work for it.
>the government should decide who gets to live in a house
big oof
you imagine a world where this isn't true, but anything provided by government fiat can be withheld by government fiat
a governments only goal should be the WELFARE of its people. no one should have to worry about where to live, that is part of ensuring someone's welfare. stop sending money to Israel, stop letting landlords rape people.
>>508711358not saying it is likely but a scenario could come up that, in their view, would be a good move. only death and taxes are guaranteed
>>508696442 (OP)that's bullshit, there should be no tax for those who only have one property less than 4 mu's of land, that would be nice.
but government wants you to keep producing shit for society like a cattle not people being selfsuficient.
>>508711905I mean, the charity itself could disband and they sell all assets. then what?
or they get incorporated by a larger charity and that charity isn't interested in maintaining rental units.
>>508705263>niggersthats just run of the mill racism. unless you propose to kill them (and actually follow through) its meaningless and nothing but a waste of time
>>508696442 (OP)I like hitlers approach where he got you a 25% discount with every child a married couple had
>>508702672They already are though? The fuck do you think property tax is? Not agreeing with the person you replied to btw.
>>508711905>>508712050then they move us all to a new building. nobody is going to evict 65 retired veterans to the street without national attention and scorn.
>>508712739>without national attention and scorn.like anyone cares about that. the VA doesn't even care. we're talking about money here.
>>508710520>Urban niggers destroy public housing.>Blame the government for not being able to fix it faster than they break it.It'd be fine if people who don't even know why a smoke detector chirps weren't allowed in.
>>508698869My man, just build commie blocks and charge enough in rent to break even on maintenance and the initial construction. In exchange for the psuedo-subsidized rate, you agree to fast tracked evictions if you're destroying the place and monthly inspections. Anyone with any criminal conviction in the last 5 years would be barred from renting here. You can even opt out of this if you want and pay market rate, but if you're not a piece of shit taking advantage why would you? Two or three in a town of 10,000 would be enough to depress rent town-wide, which in turn would also depress housing demand since hoarding land/homes is no longer a super profitable venture. Private landlords will still be able to collect enough money to make it worthwhile as they pay off their own mortgage.
>>508697354Excellent work anon. Mission complete, that was amazing anon.
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>>508712951the point being that they'll just move us somewhere else. we have guaranteed housing for the rest of our lives.
In the Netherlands a third of the population lives in social housing. It is not government funded. But it are non-profits renting out houses for bottom prices. And as most houses are already paid off, the rent is used to build new houses. And if they need an investment, they sell houses to the people who live in them.
I earn a modal salary. And I rent a 86 square meter / 3 bedroom appartement in the center of a major city for 630 euro a month. On the private market you would pay three times that.
>>508713411That's what capitalism looks like when it's not dominated by cronyism, rent-seeking, and psychopathy.
>>508696442 (OP)it's not the goverments responsibility to give you a house. Get a job and buy your own house entitled commie.
>>508712739National attention maybe. If you're not missing at least 2 limbs or a face I don't consent to paying your fucking rent, and I'll laugh when they turn your place into nigger storage.
>>508713702They have certain income limits (a bit more than modal), but once you rent from them you can just stay in your house.
Everyone wants to rent from them though, so there are huge waiting lists. People who are from the area get priority (I grew up in the city), nurses, teachers and police officers get priority, single moms, cities also have the habit of putting refugees in available houses (which is a huge political issue right now), and so on. But each non-profit has their own way of doing things, so it can differ from city to city.
>>508715064>I don't consentyour consent isn't required and doesn't matter
>>508715652Same to you useless eater.
