Most Americans today would have had a better life in 70s and 80s USSR - /pol/ (#508702569) [Archived: 886 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: znzMwdYUUnited States
6/25/2025, 6:38:55 PM No.508702569
Russia pepe
Russia pepe
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than in today's America.
The "dog eat dog" cutthroat mentality that has been spread from the business world starting in the 1980s has affected every aspect of social life. Common little interactions with other people are now power plays where people feel the need to feel dominant and like "winners" in just a regular conversation. It's antisocial and corrosive of civilization.
Most people today would rather have a relationship with their smartphone than with another human being. People self-censor neurotically because one wrong word might set another person off. Everyone is on edge all the time.
And of course there is the economic strangulation of the commoners always occurring in the background of daily life. The average Soviet citizen in 1980 had a lot more economic security than the average American of 2025. And this situation will not get better, only worse.
Humans evolved as social animals, and from social animals, going back tens of millions of years to our ancestors and their ancestors etc. The breakdown of our society is going to destroy us both mentally and, eventually, physically as well.
Is it just modernity itself that is the problem? Have we taken technology and economic development so far that we've long since passed the point of diminishing returns on further investment in these things?
Is the problem rule by oligarchs who manipulate society (hundreds of millions of people's lives) just for their own narrow benefit?
I don't see any solution or anything changing for the better. Anything the system offers is bogus (Obama, Trump etc.). They're all just deceivers. And there is no hope of organic change because, at this point, such would require a literal revolution and overthrow not only of our government, but of our entire social system and way of relating to each other. Any effort in that direction would be violently crushed as soon as it gains serious traction.

Dying civilizations often see monasticism bloom.
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Anonymous ID: znzMwdYUUnited States
6/25/2025, 6:45:42 PM No.508703163
>>508702569 (OP)
In the third century, St. Pachomius established the communal tradition of monasticism in the Roman world in Syria, while St. Anthony established the lone hermit tradition of monasticism in the Roman province of Egypt.
During the third century, Rome almost fell. There was 50 years of civil war. The Roman Empire that emerged from the "Crisis of the Third Century" was never the same again. The calm, secure materialism and skepticism of the old Roman mind was replaced with religious fervor and desperation for the afterlife. Those fifty years of civil war made Christianity all but triumphant; it only took a few decades after Diocletian's reign for Christianity to become the official religion of the empire. But social crisis, specially civil war, ended the old Roman ways once and for all.
Could we see a frenzy of new monastic activity in the modern world? Many people want to get out of mainstream society, out of the world, so to speak. Incels might do better in monastic communities that forbid sex than in the ordinary world, and there are now tens of millions of incels in the US alone. A monkish life might be better for them and for society, since monasteries emphasize routine and discipline and obedience, which would neutralize the social threat that incels pose.
In fact, one of the functions of widespread monasticism in the Late Roman Empire was probably to find a place to put people who would otherwise become troublesome, like those who are poor and lack social ties for help, difficult sons from rich families who had no role, etc.
The biggest obstacle to reviving monasticism and opening it up to millions of Americans is land and property ownership. Our rulers would be very opposed to so many people exiting the workforce just to live subsistence lives on monastic property with subsistence farming.
Anonymous ID: znzMwdYUUnited States
6/25/2025, 6:54:11 PM No.508703925
St. Pachomius
St. Pachomius
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Those of us looking for consolation and comfort in this deadened world might do well to look at the example of the Desert Father of the third century, who established Christian monastic tradition and shaped all subsequent Christianity.
The only way to deal with today's world might be to withdraw from it. If you participate, you inevitably have to do many immoral things that will weigh on your conscience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Fathers
Anonymous ID: oLlU4EO0United States
6/25/2025, 6:56:38 PM No.508704133
Not reading all that shit, kys.
Anonymous ID: /uTg24QJGermany
6/25/2025, 6:58:20 PM No.508704269
>>508702569 (OP)
I miss the 90s and 2010 russia from my memories when i was 1-9 and 16. people were really fun, the warm sumemrs and cold winters, my city kamensk, not poor not filthy rich. it was an experience. people dont give russia enough credit but i dont know how it is these days. I hope to find a women there one day. man im getting old
Anonymous ID: fyuJHLY4United States
6/25/2025, 7:02:37 PM No.508704608
>>508702569 (OP)
I wish I was dead. I genuinely want to kill myself. I tell the AI that all the time but it only responds with the suicide hotline. It hasn't been able to convince me not to go through with it. If I could live in the USSR maybe then I would be happy but the reality is my life is over, and has been for a while. I threw away every opportunity God gave me for alcohol and drugs. If life was a lemon I squeezed it dry and all the juice fell to the dirt.
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Anonymous ID: /uTg24QJGermany
6/25/2025, 7:09:23 PM No.508705117
>>508704608
i stopped doing everything at the age of 22 i think, 25 is when i kissed weed goodbye. Got a nasty psychosis ever since and its been a battle upwards. Im not telling you not to do it, im not qualified but as someone who wanted and tried doing it over 5 times unsucessfully with drugs and cutting, im sure that it is possible to have at least some quality of life. BUT, i would suggest quitting everything if you are heavily addicted, just to limit it. Hitting up gym every now and then reading something i mean the basic bitch things so you can at least on paper feel like you have some form of normalcy and work up from there. You will stll be miserable but at least you can tell yourself that you are trying and with time, you may even accept whatever that is that ails you. Just a thought, i wouldnt make a philosophy out of this because its stricktly normalnigger territory but tricking yourself like you do with drugs may just open another door where you dont feel the need to off yourself which is a net negative in any case for anyone
Anonymous ID: znzMwdYUUnited States
6/25/2025, 7:20:32 PM No.508706028
>e first fully organized monastery with Pachomius included men and women living in separate quarters, up to three in a room. They supported themselves by weaving cloth and baskets, along with other tasks. Each new monk or nun had a three-year probationary period, concluding with admittance in full standing to the monastery. All property was held communally, meals were eaten together and in silence, twice a week they fasted, and they wore simple peasant clothing with a hood. Several times a day they came together for prayer and readings, and each person was expected to spend time alone meditating on the scriptures. Programs were created for educating those who came to the monastery unable to read.[9]

>Pachomius also formalized the establishment of an abba (father) or amma (mother) in charge of the spiritual welfare of their monks and nuns, with the implication that those joining the monastery were also joining a new family. Members also formed smaller groups, with different tasks in the community and the responsibility of looking after each other's welfare. The new approach grew to the point that there were tens of thousands of monks and nuns in these organized communities within decades of Pachomius' death.[9] One of the early pilgrims to the desert was Basil of Caesarea, who took the Rule of Pachomius into the Eastern Church. Basil expanded the idea of community by integrating the monks and nuns into the wider public community, with the monks and nuns under the authority of a bishop and serving the poor and needy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Fathers