>4000 years of women as property. The breeding of a woman was decided by her dad.
>100 years of women freedom. The breeding of women is now decided by the woman herself

The biggest change in human history in the 5000 year old history of our world. And people today, even on /pol/, are like "it was always the same lol".

What are the biggest changes that we see, from changing from a Patriarchal, male-oriented breeder program, to a Matriarchal female-oriented breeder program, in these 100 years that the matriarchal breeder program has been in effect?

I have one of such changes, pic related. Before, every single working men bred, now 90% of working men do not breed (criminals are breeding fine though, women are extremely attracted to violent men).

>>508710835 (OP)
cry retard. nobody needs your weak genes. make something of yourself or lose. you're not any better than the millions of men who got turned into hamburger meat on battlefields.

>>508711041
you seem very confused

Your argument then is that "women know best what genes to pick", and that woman are better pickers of whom to breed with than their fathers used to be?

Do you feel society is improving under the woman breeding management now, and it´s much better now, since the 1900 with woman freedom, than it was in the thousands of years of history before that?

What are your arguments to justify your position?

Have you heard of the "competency crisis" or "low IQ crisis", where IQ is lowering and people are sucking more and more at jobs they used to be able to do? This trend started with women breeding freedom, because women do not select intelligence for mating. So it seems this woman ran society is going downhill

Are you sure my high IQ genes are rather than weak, actually, extremely strong instead?

>>508710835 (OP)
All matriarchies collapse the same way. The men leave the moment any other option becomes available.

>>508711282

With 70%+ of the whole male world now incels or just lonely for life, how much longer do you give this matriarchy surviving?

>>508711230
I am not confused. You are. You seem to think that life should be easy. Do you understand how many men were shot in the heart and left to die at the age of 18 years old? Do you understand how lucky you are that this is not you, and will never be you?

That's how much society values you. In the past, you were worthless. Today, you are still worthless. You complain. Be grateful you are not dead in a ditch as a teenager. You know war is now impossible. But you are still dodging the bullets. Your life has not been decided yet.

You want to overcomplicate this. It's not that deep. Life is hard. Be grateful you are alive. Prove yourself if you are worth it otherwise nobody needs you.

>>508710835 (OP)
>that dip in the late 30s

>>508711816
you are avoiding the actual topic of the thread (that is, what are the visible differences in how the world is now, vs how it was before were men decided who women bred with) , at this point you are just spamming

>>508711936
that's the 1940 tard
ww2 happened idiot
OP is an agitprop state propagandist
you know what else happened in Japan in the 1950?
the central bank of Japan took over and started buying US Bond and exclusively investing in the US

>>508712139
No I am giving you an answer that you do not like. Today the world is peaceful. Back then it was violent. You do not acknowledge what I'm saying because you secretly love the mommy safety net of the matriarchy, you have a disgusting ego, you are entitled, you could never imagine yourself being in danger. Spoiled little mommies boy.

>>508712196

Funny japan still not breeding after all this time. Surely it was not woman freedom that caused that though right

>>508712564
>Back then it was violent.

Back when?

Because WW1, WW2, communist regimes, these all started happening after woman freedom

>>508712628
surely it got nothing to do with the fractional banking system being a communist tool to impoverish countries and centralize then redistribute the wealth
certainly nothing to do with freemasonry taking over Japan after ww2

>>508710835 (OP)
>>4000 years of women as property. The breeding of a woman was decided by her dad.
>>100 years of women freedom. The breeding of women is now decided by the woman herself
thats not it. women have always had the right to decide whether or not to marry. whats new is their lack of a right to marry. unsurprisingly, breeding doesnt happen with marriage being illegal. breeding didnt happen in rome after augustus reform to allow women to only divorce if their father approved of the divorce. the only way to restore the family is to restore the family. execute all grandchildren of divorce judges

>>508710835 (OP)
>breeding is decided by women
Almost true. One thing you may not be aware of is that there are some women out there that work as “surrogates” who will gladly allow you to procreate with them for the right price. In this transactional, you are the guy are actually controlling who you can breed with. Assuming you have the money that is

>>508712738
>fractional banking system
>communist

thanks for pointing out these things that came into power when women got freedom and started voting for them

finally someone who is being on topic with this thread, and listing the things that popped up after woman freedom

>>508710835 (OP)
> Birthrate in Japan drops to lowest levels in recent history
> Doesn't mention the abysmal work culture
> Doesn't mention the rising class divide and hindered social mobility
> Doesn't mention the lack of stigma around perverted sexual fantasy
> "It's actually because women have autonomy over their decisions"

Lots more issues at play other than women not having sex with faggots who bring nothing to the table.

>>508712817
Only the USA allows it, and for single men, pretty much no other country does it.

Ultimately the woman is still the one deciding if she does it or not, not her father, therefore, still matriarchy.

>>508712809
>women have always had the right to decide whether or not to marry.

lol ok buddy

keep rewriting history

Rome literally had laws saying even a widow woman was forced to marry in a period if 1 to 3 years

>>508712936
Actually it’s available in a lot of other countries
If you google it, the ai will pull out a huuuge list. Ukraine, Mexico, India, etc

>>508712919
>"It's actually because women have autonomy over their decisions"

it´s for this reason alone. That´s the point we are trying to make your cuck eye notice

If men were in charge of society again, pretty much all men would breed, regardless of the current economy.

>>508712827
>thanks for pointing out these things that came into power when women got freedom
they didn get any freedom
they just changed who own them from men to the state
the fuck are you talking about
do women looks happy?
that shit happened after the emperor was forced to subjugate Japan to the central banks and the fiat banking system
it stole the wealth of Japenes and forced them into poverty
like every western countries they were pushed to adopt materialism and hedonism to replace the void left
it's so obvious you guys just try to redirect the legitimate hate deserved by the system unto women
that fake gender war you're paid to push
it's obvious to anyone with a brain

>>508713119
ukraine allowed it but then forbid it, so did many countries

The matriarchy is tightening its grip on surrogacy, men cannot have options.

>>508713194
japanese men, and most men around the world, no longer breed merely simply, solely because women decide who they breed with now, instead of their fathers

the end

>>508713337
pile of retarded shit

>>508713238
It’s doable, regardless. I wouldn’t stress about women or their approval. They’ve literally made it transactional and now it’s stress free to have kids

>>508713415
cope

>>508710835 (OP)
I literally do not care, my wife and I are not making ZOGbots for Iran, fuck off and kill yourself.

>>508713439

If every woman was forced to go through surrogacy, then things would work out decently.

But only a few woman do it, and the ones that do it are likely low IQ

It´s not just a matter of breeding, if you don't breed with someone of your IQ level and social status, you'll have retarded children

>>508713601
show your Indian flag buddy

>>508713050
did the law say who she had to marry? she always had the right to say yes or no to any individual suitor. the typical case was always
> for this reason a man leaves father and mother and cleaves to his wife and they become one flesh
the problem is that now women cant commit to marriage because the commitment is not recognized. instead, every single thing the man does in a marriage is evidence of abuse, including marriage, which is a patriarchial attempt to control her sexuality. telling her she cant fuck other men is considered spousal abuse in england. marital rape is a sex crime so she gets full custody of the kids by default

>>508712707
I'm not sure how to progress with you when you just said one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. War is the most patriarchal institution possibly ever conceived. There isn't much to talk about if you are too stupid to know that. Have fun "convincing some girl's dad" that you deserve her because your mommy said you have a high IQ.

>>508710835 (OP)
>rapid drop in birthrates coincides with the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki and the subsequent introductiong of american ((("""democracy""")))
Hmnmmmm...really makes one thingks, how every country that has adopted (((freedom))), ((("""democracy"""))) and ((((liberal thinking)))) has experienced the exact same problem, gee, I wonder who could be behind all these movements.....

>>508710835 (OP)
History isn't as black and white as you think.
Even in a time and a place where a woman in theory was 100% powerless to influence who her father would marry her off to, she could influence her father directly. There are girls even today who will get her father to help her land the man she wants.
Every working man having children was a thing in Christian society, but not in non monogamous societies.

>>508713601
right, making women do surrogacy is like making men do army time. in a decent country men would have weapons because they just do

>>508711816
>>508712564
This is kike deflection. Most men lived a full life with wife and children. Only a very small minority went to war, and of that minority a smaller percentage died. Kikes are using the "old world was evil and awful" narrative.

>>508710835 (OP)
i don't care that you can't get pussy

>>508713601
>you do nod ged id saaaaar, women are muchj habbier in sri- I mean Louisiana, where we keep women as cattle
When are you wiggers gonna learn that if you want to be successful, you need to learn to do the opposite of what the memeflags are saying, even if they agree with you, still do the opposite, because they are almost always just assets for feds to astroturf enshittification before they roll it out.

>>508713919
>Most men lived a full life with wife and children
right, if the average man isnt reproducing, that ruins the population genetics, the whole point of sex is that recombination and differential reproduction keeps the genome clean

>>508711230
High IQ genes filtering out is also caused by intelligent women not reproducing. Intelligent women scare away the majority of men. Intelligent women are tricked into spending time on studies and a career rather than on having many children. Intelligent women are tricked to act in an unpleasant way around intelligent men, thereby scaring away the few men their intelligence didn't scare away.

>>508710835 (OP)
>The breeding of a woman was decided by her dad
>not performed by her dad
cucked

>>508713958
the problem isnt this masturbator here cant get a slut to masturbate into. its that this guy who makes 15k a month has one kid being trooned out and hes getting bled for 80% of his wage by the government. God damn america

>>508710835 (OP)
I've said this many times here.
Giving women the right to vote, work, and decide for themselves is at the core of most major issues today, especially in terms of birth rates.
I'm not really blaming women though, it's a natural inclination to want more autonomy. I blame the men who gave it to them. If it wasn't for those retards who actually voted and gave the women these rights then it wouldn't be a problem now. I'm afraid we are too far in the game to reverse it without a collapse of some kind.
I'm speaking in general terms, personally I don't really care if I have kids, find a wife, or the overall effect women's rights has on society. It's more of an observation

>>508714452
"intelligent women" is a complete psyop designed to make some liberal arts email writer to think that they're some 300 IQ Dirac just because they have a piece of paper that they spent 60k on

Who cares?

>>508713919
No. You can't brush off war like that. War is what made the world go round in those days. It's what allowed society to function in a way where each man was guaranteed a wife. It is central to this conversation.

>>508711230
You're arguing with a literal retard too dumb to realize population collapse will effect them as well. They don't seem to realize too we're about to start feeling the effects. It's not even going to take a decade from now.

>>508714590
High IQ women exist. They are rare, but I have had the pleasure of making an acquaintance of more than one high IQ woman.
Making women think they are intelligent because of a piece of paper, and that a high IQ woman has to get that piece of paper, sabotages a high IQ woman's ability to reproduce. It also sabotages women carrying a high IQ gene that is balanced by a normal IQ gene. She wants to be officially smart, and she needs the paper to be smart.

>>508714497
Should've picked a better woman unironically.

>>508713158
>If men were in charge of society again, pretty much all men would breed, regardless of the current economy.
That depends on what men are in charge. Polygamist men will wish to hoard the women, rather than letting the worker drones breed. Out current system is run by closet polygamist men who wish to put pretty, young women in a shared harem.

>>508715488
>High IQ women exis
Yes, I know, but most of them place themselves on a pedestal because they think woman with college degree who writes emails all day = smart, man who build house and is useful to society = dumb

>>508715952
this, very important
>>508715540
hes the victim of several capital crimes. death to america