Is an ideal society even possible? - /pol/ (#508727086) [Archived: 849 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: 035xd8qeUnited States
6/25/2025, 11:29:11 PM No.508727086
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I don't think so. An ideal society would require all of the members of said society to behave according to strict roles, thus killing their individuality.

But let's say you get an opportunity to create one, what would it look like?
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Anonymous ID: +ixjRKwASpain
6/25/2025, 11:29:56 PM No.508727146
>>508727086 (OP)
It's possible if there's only one person.
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Anonymous ID: LpyujVvKGermany
6/25/2025, 11:30:34 PM No.508727194
>>508727086 (OP)
if you actually read plato, you would know that ideal things cannot exist, by definition
Anonymous ID: yV3xG1gEUnited States
6/25/2025, 11:30:54 PM No.508727228
>>508727086 (OP)
No
Anonymous ID: +ixjRKwASpain
6/25/2025, 11:32:04 PM No.508727323
>>508727146
Which makes me think, a hivemind society would qualify as one person and still possess a population, so there it is.
Anonymous ID: wluyRRlVUnited States
6/25/2025, 11:32:35 PM No.508727366
>>508727086 (OP)
>But let's say you get an opportunity to create one, what would it look like
a country with hard currency not controlled by private or foreign agents for one
Anonymous ID: u4Pr9rifUnited States
6/25/2025, 11:34:07 PM No.508727471
>>508727086 (OP)
it would look like reddit so you should go back
Anonymous ID: EMCLKPlRSwitzerland
6/25/2025, 11:35:14 PM No.508727571
>>508727086 (OP)
I don't know, but it's more interesting to think about the ideal king than his kingdom, because such a king would have to be perfectly acquainted with philosophy. It could be said that the whole of philosophy consists in that king's knowledge.
Anonymous ID: ce+gRuTQUnited States
6/25/2025, 11:36:48 PM No.508727718
>>508727086 (OP)
I just finished New Atlantis and am about to start the Republic. This should be interesting
Anonymous ID: pXx3JUioUnited States
6/25/2025, 11:40:47 PM No.508728051
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>>508727086 (OP)
Plato was a retard, western phil was doomed from the start when they favored Parmenides over Heraclitus
also Plato's Socrates is a sophist who plays nothing but jewish word games
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Anonymous ID: L1xbevX3United States
6/25/2025, 11:44:15 PM No.508728480
>>508727086 (OP)
Individuality is gay and retarded.
Anonymous ID: BeXa0Jvq
6/26/2025, 12:05:11 AM No.508730238
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>>508727086 (OP)
>Is an ideal society even possible?
yes, pic related
Anonymous ID: erCHL+K2Spain
6/26/2025, 12:06:46 AM No.508730355
>>508727086 (OP)
Read the Republic by Cicero.
Anonymous ID: DU3SEsYiGreece
6/26/2025, 12:09:38 AM No.508730573
>>508728051
>they favored Parmenides over Heraclitus
Huh?
>>508727086 (OP)
Absolutely rhizomatic
Anonymous ID: kiijtDtXFinland
6/26/2025, 12:10:08 AM No.508730608
>>508727146
Is it a society at that point?
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Anonymous ID: z+IYjbC5United States
6/26/2025, 12:11:29 AM No.508730702
>>508728051
>Socrates is a sophist who plays nothing but jewish word games
Based.
Anonymous ID: rLkryC7CUnited States
6/26/2025, 12:18:37 AM No.508731241
>>508727086 (OP)
Our ideal society is prehistoric tribes. Our toolmaking broke the game and we are doomed to misery.
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Anonymous ID: JS1uQKtTUnited States
6/26/2025, 12:19:09 AM No.508731287
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as close an approximation to an ideal society as we are ever going to get - anti-capitalist, anti-technology, pro-natalist, no mandatory schooling after 8th grade, communal labor and child rearing, faith in God
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Anonymous ID: K5gd+f7PItaly
6/26/2025, 12:28:32 AM No.508732024
>>508731287
they are kinda sitting ducks sadly, I feel, not sure they'll leave them be indefinitely and whether they can avoid ZOG's nose
Anonymous ID: +ixjRKwASpain
6/26/2025, 12:32:31 AM No.508732333
>>508730608
If it looks like one and functions as one, sure. I'm talking about the hivemind hypothetical though, which is the only way of creating a society of "one person".
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Anonymous ID: +ixjRKwASpain
6/26/2025, 12:45:58 AM No.508733469
>>508732333
Although, a hivemind is still a mind, so i wonder if it would experience inner turmoil and dissonance, and manifest it as conflict between the individuals conforming the hive. I guess eventually that would turn it into just a regular society like ours.