It will completely fuck up the free market

He has no ability to do this

I think in a perfect world almost everything should be owned and run by the government

>>508746985
Leftoids are so funny.

>Corporate monopoly bad! Government monopoly good!

>>508746985
fuck off kike

>>508746929
Yeah he does. IF he becomes mayor

didn't chicago pilot this and it kept getting robbed?

>>508746929
>No you can't just do things for people you can only give money to Israel! Pastor Sarah told me as much!

>>508747041
When the end result is the consumers live better lives, then yeah
what the fuck do I give a fuck about mister shekelberg's annual bonus, anon?

>>508746929
Why do Americans jinx everything. Why cant you just shut the fuck up.

>>508747192
Money is unnecessary in a proper society.

>>508747192
>When the end result is the consumers live better lives
From a government grocers? As if.

>>508746791 (OP)
I actually foresee this creating a brand new market of boutique grocery stores that sells ridiculously overpriced produce so that rich people living in NY don't have to mingle with the poors while they're busy filling out standard produce form P 4990-2 in the socialized grocery store.

>>508746929
Sure he can, city takes over abandoned properties that used to be grocery stores and starts operating then. It will be a monumental disaster but it's entirely possible

>>508746791 (OP)
sounds fake and gay

>>508747279
I forsee NYC burning to the ground in 6 years.

>>508747192
Kys dumb leftoid

>>508746791 (OP)
Other governors should start offering free bus rides to NYC for the homeless.

>>508747356
New York is worth saving.

>>508746791 (OP)
Lmfao, so he's going to create even more government, okay. That'll go over well for these fucking retards who don't work, don't pay taxes, and only absorb, sure.

>>508746791 (OP)
Honestly, this guy Tim Pool is nothing short of a super genius. Like, it’s almost unfair how he always seems to be three steps ahead of everyone else. The dude drops facts and insights that leave the so-called “experts” stumbling, and people just can’t handle it. Instead of appreciating his brilliance, they get jealous because he’s always right, and that stings way more than admitting it. It’s like watching someone effortlessly solve a Rubik’s Cube while you’re still fumbling with the edges. If you ask me, the real problem isn’t Tim’s genius, it’s everyone else’s fragile egos.

>>508746791 (OP)
Other governors should start offering free 1 way bus rides to NYC for the homeless.

>>508746791 (OP)
Jew York deserves this. I hope the whole city drowns in shit and rats.

>>508747041
All large farms in the US survive on gov't grants/subsidies

American farming relies on socialism
Postal service...socialism
Social security....socialism
Boomer medicare....socialism

>Nooo we need corporations to profit off of us
>Muh freedom to enrich zionists

>>508746791 (OP)
This is epic national socialism. All industries should have to compete with the government. It stops them ripping off the customer.

>>508746791 (OP)
What happens when the stores owned by the government run out of product because of unaccountable bureaucrat bloat? Lmao even

>>508746791 (OP)
>The Zohan doesnt realize why there are food deserts to begin with

I'm sure bodega owners and grocery store owners will love this policy

>>508747577
Hitler had to start the war early because national socialism was fucking up the economy so much it would have collapsed if they didn't make conquests they could steal from and export inflation to.

>>508747171
what the fuck are you on about

>>508746791 (OP)
Why can't business compete with government stores? Socialism is always ineffective, right? Right? That's what you said before, right rightoids?

>>508746791 (OP)
I don't see what's wrong with this. Cutting out the middleman is more efficient. The public has an interest in cheap groceries. Grocery store owners should just get different jobs and enjoy the cheap groceries.

>>508746791 (OP)
>(((free market)))
LMAO

>>508747192
SHUT THIS ANTISEMITIC GARBAGE DOWN, HIROYUKI

>>508746791 (OP)
>He doesn’t miss

unless your a child talking about an athlete.. this is such a gay thing to say about another man.

>>508747595
Who cares? China makes it. If shit runs out it's because the kikes in the government want to starve you as punishment; TKD either way.

>Daddy government is efficient and based
You fucking retards deserve the rope. This has already happened before and it didn’t turn out well. Quit claiming to be enlightened and then tout failed experiments as successes.

>>508746791 (OP)
>muh markets
rightoid disregarded
socialism + antisemitism are essential, and this guy is a step in the right direction

>>508746791 (OP)
I hate leftists, but I hate kikes more.
This is fine to me because the kikes are seething about him.

central planning can be good in some industries but grocery markets are usually razor thin margins

>>508747294
Cool, Where’s the money come from? Taxes? So people are paying taxes for food that they still have to pay for? Good luck with that you retarded niggerfaggots.

>>508746791 (OP)
>and it will create food deserts
yummy!

>>508747192
Shekelberg works in the government you moron and all you're doing is giving him more money and power to fuck you over.

>>508747708
that's what happens when you get JewBrain

it's where you blame jews for absolutely everything and you call anyone you disagree with "jewish" sort of how people get called "nazi"

in extreme cases of JewBrain they actually pander to muslims

>>508747684
national socialism under Hitler was mostly capitalistic, with reasonable levels of socialism. the more leftist nazis were purged.
Germany naturally suffered from lack of resources.

>>508746985
The government of Canada built and owned many assets once. Everything was good back then >>

>>508746791 (OP)
Why can't a small business compete against profitless competition? Are salaries not part of expenses? As long as the business owners aren't greedy and incompetent, it shouldn't be difficult to pay themselves a decent salary while still outperforming obscenely overpaid government employees larping as some sort of valuable service/product provider.

>>508746791 (OP)
literally USSR, what

>>508747294
Kruger grocers are shutting down 60 stores. Walmart will pick up their trade.

>>508748067
>So people are paying taxes for food that they still have to pay for?

The price is much lower when it's subsidized
Top 1% of earners pay more taxes which makes it easier for the poor to feed themselves

Gov't subsidies are why a 20 lb bag of flour from walmart costs $6 instead of $20

>>508747294
>nyc
>abandoned properties

>>508748188
>national socialism under Hitler was mostly capitalistic
Yes, the price controls, production quotas, and mandatory government labor union membership are very far right policies.

>>508747103
Kike would surely lose money.

>>508746791 (OP)
why can't the small businesses just work for the government stores?

>>508746791 (OP)
Just institute price caps. A government run low price store would be something though. Private stores obviously should still be allowed. This shitskin will botch it because they're all incompetent and no one will ever try it again.

>>508748229
no no, this is "democratic socialism", just dont try to actually raise the value of labour because cutting immigration is racist

>>508748224
>Why can't a small business compete against profitless competition?
Operating revenue and costs are from taxpayers. It does not incentivize price discovery which either means the costs to consumers are low, leading to closure of private businesses and expanding deficit of public funds, or they're high and it's a pointless endeavour.

>>508746985
Yeah but that assumes a fantasy world where people aren't shit and actually do their job.

>>508748387
>why cant the economy just rely on government subsidy?
I'll take "unsustainable" for $500

>>508746985
>I think in a perfect world almost everything should be owned and run by the government
Then why did leave China?

>>508746791 (OP)
I hope he does this.
Can you imagine?
If its a government run building, will niggers who steal be charged with crimes against government property and officials?
I cant wait for the first nigger judge to let a shoplifter go because muh reparations and every store gets looted fully.
>Restock the shelves bitch, niggas be back tomorrow. Tax timmy more harder.

>>508748306
>The price is much lower when it's subsidized
To the consumer, governmental contracts famously overpay.

>>508746791 (OP)
Crying wolf about this guy who will literally do nothing just makes you all look stupid.

>>508748457
how does a job = subsidy?

>>508747192
nigger, shekelberg owns the building that you are effectively turning into section 8 dollar general and paying him rent with your taxes

>>508747192
Why do Chinese people like you leave for North America if communism is so great?

>>508748355
very far right policies = mass immigration from the third world for cheap labour
NS is the reasonable and dynamic middle ground, not anti-European capitalism or communism

>>508746791 (OP)

>born too late to explore the world
>born too early to explore space
>born just in time to watch NYC implode

>>508746791 (OP)
If the food is halal then he can keep it.

>>508746791 (OP)
Free markets easily outcompete state owned corporations, they cannot compete with getting forcibly taken over by the government and raising prices, unless there is a rebellion.

A disaster waiting to happen...Where did this muslimidiot suddenly appear from and then win just like that? ...Very fucking convenient and suspicious...

>>508748521
do you know what a subsidy is? if the govt is setting food prices, that is by definition subsidizing consumer food products. if the govt store is also hiring small business, where do you think that money comes from? are you some kind of a retard?

>>508748498
Much moreso with military than agriculture
One of these benefits citizens, the other doesn't

>>508746791 (OP)
>making stores owned by the government
LMAO
How is this shitskin so retarded? Hes a fucking mayor candidate, they literally have no authority in this policy making.
But you know what, I rather see them waste even more tax money from NYC nigger faggots and go into heavy debt for years to come.

>>508746929
>The bolsheviks could never take over, the tsar will save us.

>>508747279
The wealthy will continue to shop at whole foods.

>>508746985
this only works if the government doesn't work against their own population

The USA is getting argentinized lmao

While Milei does the exact opposite removing regulations

>>508746791 (OP)
>it will end jeet bodegas
Bye bye

>>508747720
Depends how it's run. If they're undercutting costs by subsidizing the stores with taxpayer money then real companies can't hit that price. If they're running it as a normal business and just lowering prices by cutting wages then you'll have incompetent management and it would be like going to the dollar store instead of a normal convenience store.

>>508748520
yes, none of the socialist stuff will actually happen. the actual reason for the rage is him taking some mild anti-Israel stances. so Jews and their useful idiot "WNs" are pissed

>>508748067
Actually that already happens now, Walmart for instance receives tax money, but you still have to pay for walmart products. It's economic fascism.

>>508748576
>modern Europeans governments are far right

>>508746791 (OP)
The only free market we ever had was The Silk Road

>>508748698
No your agricultural sector is very inefficient as a result too. John Deere basically gets a blank check for machinery from you.

>>508748609
Whites, Jews, and Asians in NYC have been far left progressive for a very long time. So niggers vote for free shit and rich people vote to give them free shit because of ideology.

>>508748520
Fuck him, he's a shitskin and you probably are too.

>>508747104
No, he does not, creature.

>>508746791 (OP)
How will it create a food desert if these stores are selling food?

>>508747684
Poland and Britain started the war.

>>508746791 (OP)
If Donald Trump wanted to do these ideas Tim would be sucking his cock all day long

>>508748425
Labor has zero value.

>>508748852
you honestly trust the government to distribute food efficiently?

>>508746791 (OP)
>>508747279
>>508746985
We have government owned stores and even army owned stores. They don’t have everything. They only the essential groceries.
It doesn’t ruin small business because most middle class people won’t be driving all the way to these stores to buy few vegetables or eggs and they are not always cheaper than big stores.
Rich people don’t go to these stores because of the stigma.
It just give poor people an option for cheaper groceries.

>>508748819
learn to read

>>508748901
I don't care about your semantic games. its supply and demand, raise the supply and the value of a labourers wages goes down. you already know this youre just being deliberately obtuse.

>>508748852
>Comrade, we have a loaf of bread in our glorious soviet grocery, there is no food desert surely.

>>508746791 (OP)
Unless they arent actually gouging. In that case it will play out like every other state run grocery store (badly)

>>508748160
What a weird kid

>>508747356
You say this like it’s a bad thing. Personally I’m hoping for the Escape from New York timeline.

>>508746791 (OP)
good
solve the nyc jewish problem and the nigger problem in one candidate

>>508748985
What's the semantic game monkey retard? Labor has no value, that's it. Economic value is subjective.
>raise the supply and the value of a labourers wages goes down.
Only if there is demand, which requires people to value it, which is subjective.

>>508747041
Most of us likes to troll rightoids. After all they are the deep state, pro corporate, and on.

>>508746985
It's that or robots, I Capitalism had a place in a society where shortages were common place, now it creates shortages to perpetuate itself.

>>508748967
He's right, you just accused the anti immigration party of being the party of mass migration you are a really, really special kind of stupid

>>508746791 (OP)
This is an amazing idea that new york totally voted for. Couldnt have happened to a nicer city

>>508747041
>corporate monopoly
>controlled by a handful of nameless unelected nepobabies with no transparency

>government monopoly
>controlled by elected officials who are known, and have to follow known rules and have a cap on how much they can make

They're not the same.

>>508748224
>Why can't a small business compete against profitless competition?
Ask all the businesses Amazon drove out of business by running operations at a loss for twenty years because they had access to endless near-zero interest loans.

>>508746929
What are foodbanks

>>508747708
I don't think he even knows. His programs has rotted his brain to the point where he simply lashes out at anything that triggers his autism.

>>508747233
Calm down, Eurofaggot. Just because you love the taste of commie dick doesn't mean all of us have to suck it.

>>508747171
Said no one on the populist left, center or right.

>>508747041
>as long as Im the one being corrupt its okay!

>>508749109
>its subjective!!!11!
okay? lmao I should have known it would be some pedantic shit like this. kys

>>508748985
Also i find it funny that national socialists will say that they are somehow the opposite of marxists, and then in the same sentence they say that agree with Marx's retarded labor theory of value. All of you socialists are scum.

>>508749151
>government monopoly
>controlled by elected officials
Majority of government officials are unelected.

>>508746985
Real Canadians hours in here huh?

>>508749266
>strawman
I do not identity as a nazi or a marxist. your mother is a dirty prostitute with pinworms and halitosis

>>508749256
What???? What's pedantic? Economic value is subjective, it's obvious, are you retarded? Do you speak English?

>>508749324
What are you then? No ideology?

>>508749366
He's a Canadian
You offer him some canned soup and a gallon of chocolate milk he will march to whatever tune you play

>>508748160
right wing Jews will never be good allies to WNs because they are race-narcissists who pursue a racial strategy of multiculturalism in the west to weaken white competitors

>>508746985
Yeah, let’s let incompetent niggers and total losers run everything.

>>508749266
>labor theory of value
this isnt about that dumb shit you fucking nerd. its pretty straightforward. if theres tons of diamonds everywhere then theyre not worth as much, even with demand, right? the same goes for workers and anything else you exchange money for
>>508749336
by your logic, all value is subjective, since it depends upon demand (which as you said, may or may not exist). I find that logic to be pedantic.
>>508749366
ideology is for midwit pieces of shit like you

>>508746791 (OP)
Are groceries even free market? Is food even?

You give minorities and poors play doh money... The logistics are all heavily subsidized... The stores have razor thin margins and get massive tax breaks... The farming is all subsidized...

Like honestly, it kind of seems like the grocery store business is a middle man to the government sandwich... Especially for the poor.

Also small business groceries are ran by minorities exploiting low interest loans and kickbacks. Especially in New York. I don't think they even care about profit desu.

OH NO MUH HECKIN JEW YORK CITY
HAHAHAHAHAHAA!
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and they deserve to get it good and hard.

>>508749425
He's a democrat dogist

>>508749535
I thought you said I was a nazi, or was it a marxist? make up your mind you drooling nigger

>>508746791 (OP)
Eventually, somebody else's money runs out.

>>508746985
>leaf
Checks out.

>>508747684
This is so fucking historically illiterate it's mind-boggling, you literally just made shit up. Right there, right then. Shame on you niggerfaggot.
World War 2 started from an entirely hot-button geopolitical event that was the Danzig crisis; accentuated by other annexations beforehand, and the subsequent gurantee of war that Britian & France gave to Poland in the event of German 'aggression', AKA responding to Poles killing and displacing ethnic Germans.

Hitler didn't fucking timetravel to rewrite the Treaty of Versailles, something he hated absolutely, so that Germans could be seperated from their homeland and palced in bumfuck Pooland becuse they uh...... kicked our ass and then lost in WW1???

>>508746791 (OP)
What a stereotypical commie.
So-what-ing the free market out of contention. Well there goes everything good. Even the handouts he wants to curry favor with.

>>profitless stores

does this retard understand this will come at taxpayers expense? Food isn't grown to feed people. Its grown to make money.

>>508746791 (OP)
You doofuses always just say the opposite of the truth

>>508748160
Jews are LITERALLY responsible for mass migration. We are not debating this, Boomer. The science is settled.

>>508749761
Can society change that? Money is unnecessary.

>>508748841
You lost, migger

>>508749854
>Money is unnecessary
Name one successful civilization that didn't use money.

>>508749854
>>508749854

No. will you toil in the sun growing food just to give away? then what if your equipment breaks. Will the mcchanic come down and fix it for free? Serouis questions.

You can limit profit. But you cannot get rid of it. Even Ant Societies understand profit.

>>508749761
Money isn't real and you can't prove it. The fact books, software, etc. have a value that disproves money and undermines most capitalistic theory...

We literally have products with infinite supply that somehow are worth value? It's why the Intel glowniggers put all their shadow money into media and software companies. You can literally make money out of thin fucking air and memes.

>>508747192
Food shortages doesn't equate to "live better lives".

>>508746791 (OP)
>the stores will be owned by the jewish government to own the jews in Israel that get $11M a day sent each day
tmd, nuke gaza.

>>508750061
>Money isn't real
then you won't mind giving me yours, right?

>>508746791 (OP)
Why are right wingers so butthurt about this guy? Isn't he just a candidate? It's not like he's mayor or anything

>>508750179
he won, he will be mayor

>>508749761
no retard
you sell the food at very minimal profit margin, just enough to sustain the store
instead of having profits go to the government, it goes to reduce the cost of the good
the state does pay for the wages of the employee and the product. but it will take back a VERY small profit, and MAXIMIZE savings to the community
this is HOW SOCIALISM WORKS
It UNDERCUTS free market, and makes it make the most sense to buy from the government
then you just have to trust them to not fuck you over. in a truly democratic socialist society, this would be enforced by legislature, which zohar will do.

>>508749469
>>labor theory of value
>this isnt about that dumb shit you fucking nerd. its pretty straightforward.
You literally said labor has value. You're a moron.
>if theres tons of diamonds everywhere then theyre not worth as much, even with demand, right?
NO, use basic logic, if we have one trillion diamonds, and there is almost no demand, they will be worth almost nothing, if there is a huge demand, the diamonds will still cost a lot, even though there are so many of them, because price is ultimately dependent on demand, you are right that if there is demand, then supply will matter, but supply cannot create demand, because demand is based on value and value is subjective and not based on supply. Therefore, having a supply of labor, no matter how much, is not inherently valuable.

What i am saying is, labor is not value, the value comes first and the labor is a means to an end. In other words, labor is not inherently valuable.

>by your logic, all value is subjective
No, i specifically said economic value.
>since it depends upon demand (which as you said, may or may not exist).
What? Demand exists if people subjectively value some good, there is no scientific way to determine this and put human beings in some kind of box.
>I find that logic to be pedantic.
Find it however you want it's still logic.
>ideology is for midwit pieces of shit like you
Fair enough kek.

>>508746791 (OP)
This is communism.
It didn't work for the communists.
It is being implemented by people who want to get rid of the police and make crime legal.
Do the math if you are wondering how this will end.
Also: death to all communists. Zero tolerance.

>>508749583
You're a social retardist.

>>508746791 (OP)
who doesn't love desert food?

>>508746791 (OP)
The government taking over the very last part of the food chain economy can't be bad. Farmers, truckers, farming equipment, crop insurance, seed companies, commodity markets, nope, nothing happening here. Its the fucking last step before the food gets to your home that's the problem. Those grocers are worse than payday loan scammers. We need our big-hearted government hero leaders to come fix this

>>508749510
A bunch of them skim off the top for free EBT money
>crackedhead comes in with 300
>sell them 300 in 'goods'
>give them 150
>pocket the rest and don't lose product
Happens way more than you think, plus people do actually buy stuff

>>508746791 (OP)
>look at this every commie basic script
>this is big, free shit dude frfr
Imagine believe in mohamed jeet bin slimey, only thing he gonna do was build minaret, invite more paki cunt, and occasionally lashing against jew handler bloody benchod, UK is the prime example

>>508750179
He doesnt support israel enough

>>508750220
you have a fundamental understanding of how society works if you actually believe this shit man. fucking retarded
>I want to be enslaved to Amazon and or made to starve to death because I don't "produce value" which is retarded to base anyone's worth on
By merit of being in my nation and a citizen you automatically have value and deserve to live. Admissions to make new citizens at this point are not needed. But for everyone here we need to maximize happiness and encourage childbirth.

>>508748694
>where do you think that money comes from? are you some kind of a retard?
It could come from multiple sources. I'm guessing you think it can only possibly come from taxes? Why couldn't workers get paid by an appropriate markup on all goods? Then you have a non-profit where the markups only exist to pay wagies. Narrow-minded dumbass

>>508750179
Zionist Jews are butthurt because of his mildly anti-Israel positions. rightoids are butthurt because they just go along with the Jews without thinking (or they're bad actors)

>>508749854
If you want to go back to the stone age, which i'm not necessarily against, but the nazis used money.
>>508750061
Central bank money isn't real, it's based on nothing and worth nothing.

>>508747570
This is what gets me. I pay for farm grants and subsidies then the free market marks up the goods produced from my taxes and sells it back to me at a profit.

If an industry is propped up by taxes then it should be run by the government.

>>508750327
john deer is evil retard
farmers are megafarmer evil private entities retard
truckers are hired by abusive private entities retard, regulated by the DOT
farming equipment is proprietary
seed companies are private industries
commodity markets are private

so retarded, drink your own piss cletus

>small business food stores in NYC
Bodegas? Those seem pretty shit but I don't live there

>>508750220
>You literally said labor has value
well you pay for it, so yes
>inb4 you go back to 19th century bullshit

>>508747530
no, he's a latecomer, aka a retard and a grifter
it won't create food deserts, because this already occurs

idiots like you can't figure it out and notice, nothing has ever changed throughout human society, you're just looking at texture mods

>>508750366
What are you talking about retard that's all a strawman i never said any of that.

>>508746791 (OP)
who cares, it's only new york
it's not like they produce anything
it's just a big money vacuum sucking in wealth from other areas

>>508750385
>Why couldn't workers get paid by an appropriate markup on all goods?
this would defeat the purpose which was price controls

>>508750563
>Readers added context: NYC produces 20 billion dollars in tax revenue, which is more than some US states

>>508750593
no it doesn't. Private companies pocket a bunch and expand when they become successful, whereas this would just make the goods cost less

>>508750527
You act like labor has no value.
If labor had no value then nobody would be working.
If labor had no value the absence of labor would be pegged to your life being shit.

Oh wait. That's true. if you don't engage in labor your qol generally goes to shit, you live in poverty and have a substandard quality of living.

However if that person can engage in labor they instantly can ascend from poverty.

How does labor not have value.

The principle of having a job and the reason that the person hires you, is so that he can make a profit over whatever tasks you complete. The difference there, that is what is stolen from you. This is his sole motivation to hire you. You see with AI automation, when it becomes not profitable to keep you, you are removed.

Socialism is a means by which to reduce this theft.

>>508750506
>well you pay for it, so yes
No, you don't pay for it retard, you don't pay for it unless you value it, you only pay for labor if you value it, it's not inherently valuable. I don't pay 100 men to cut down random trees in the forest for no reason because i don't value it.

If you're making the argument that labor could be valuable because it's a potential commodity, that's fine, but it is not inherently valuable, that would be retarded.

>>508750410
What is real money?

>>508746791 (OP)
it will never happen, he's only baiting retards.
if it happens shelves will be empty as in all other commie stores in communist countries.

>>508750635
In fiscal year 2022, New York received approximately $117.5 billion in federal funding,

>>508750684
What i am saying is, to be very very specific, is that labor is not inherently valuable, it is not valuable in and of itself, which is what retarded marxists, nazis, socialists and corporatists all claim, it is on its face retarded.

>The principle of having a job and the reason that the person hires you, is so that he can make a profit over whatever tasks you complete.
Yes, because he values whichever tasks you would complete, not because he finds your labor inherently valuable, or all businesses would collapse because everyone would be doing retard, unvaluable bullshit.

All socialism is aggression, slavery and theft.

>>508750849
@Grok...how much of that is wallstreet?

>>508747192
>>508749151
Don't we have age restrictions on this site? How many times do you need to see politicians stuff their pockets with public money for you to get them at their just as greedy as private sector corporate leaders, but almost universally incompetent? The government is not our friend and is actively replacing us with people who will accept lower standards.

>>508750754
Money is designed to be used as a medium of exchange, from thousands of years ago when people traded gold coins, i suppose you could called dollars real money, but they're only based on the fact that the government bans you from using any other money, they're not tied to anything real and valuable like they used to be.

It used to be that you could trade in one of your dollars for an ounce of silver or something, because it was supposed to have real value, but now it's just paper that the government forces you to use.

>>508748067
>Where’s the money come from?
The 5 white people left paying taxes in NYC

>>508747104
You don't understand
He already is mayor

Winning the Democratic nomination in NYC is basically the same thing as winning the election because there is no republican political pulse in NYC

>>508750849
He's talking about NYC, and you're talking about NY State. That's your problem. NY State spends about 65 billion a year just maintaining.

>>508750455
I'm very familiar with farming. There are political deals influencing every aspect of the food supply chain. Political deals that allow deere to get away with what they do, monsanto/bayer to do what they do, adm, etc.
How many ag companies that aren't farms are subsidized?
Now we get another layer of political bullshit that is not going to get you lower grocery prices. You only get what products the government makes available to you.

>>508748838
What's that name....
See the pose. Ellen degenerate did that too. The crossed leg over knee like a T

>>508749199
places where you give free food to drug addicts and people who would rather spend food money on other stuff so they grift it.

Very few legitimate users, most just get the free food so they have more $ for drugs. Big reason why I stopped volunteering at them

>>508746791 (OP)
Chad

Zoran is controlled opposition, he'll foment the paranoia needed to get more Jews to move to Israel. NYC will implode economically when they take all their money and then next time when people do "I'll vote for the other party next time!" it'll put actual ziocons in NY office.

>>508747356
>>508747518
Yes. The importance of the city is due to it's geography. One of the best port cities on eart

>>508747518
>>508747356
>>508749018
Man in the High Castle timeline is far better. Make New York 1920s again.

>>508746985
fuck off Daniel

>>508750684
The value of labor is subjective. Using your logic, even prostitution is valuable when it's clearly not. Labor in itself isn't valuable, otherwise businesses wouldn't go bankrupt.

>>508752089
It does not matter. If all the jews leave America, conditions will improve immediately. What they will do is burn everything down on their way out, but after they are gone then it's better always.

>>508750326
Me

>>508749151
Your commitment to retardation is impressive

>>508749151
>Government officials
>Following rules
HAHAHAHAH, do you even know who Eric Adams or Cuomo is, you fucking retard

>>508746791 (OP)
Theoretically I like the idea of these stores. In reality though I know they will refuse to enforce any sort of security because racism, which means it'll just become a place for niggers to steal without limits. A socialist who has called for defunding the NYPD will not try to arrests thieves. Taxpayers will spend millions of dollars to stock a store so that nigs can sweep a shelf into a cart, walk out, and resell everything on the sidewalk for half the price.

>>508747577
I agree with this. Start with healthcare so doctors dont have the incentive to watch ppl die slowly with their ibuprofen prescriptions

>>508746985
in a perfect world all governments will collapse the moment they stop serving the people

>>508752379
I find your lack of retardation disturbing.

>>508749269
>Majority of government officials are unelected.
They're either elected or appointed by elected officials.
But I guess you could argue most corporate leaders are as well, considering how prevalent corporate capture and subsidies are.

>>508749199
Almost all food banks are run by charities or non-profits. State/city governments sometimes donate money to them, but it's relatively rare to have an actual government run food bank.

>>508752653
In a perfect world all governments collapse.

>>508746791 (OP)
Let New York take the experiment. I am genuinely curious. Look at the current worker strikes with Kroger. Wages suck. Prices are highly inflated. These animals at the top won't cut themselves. I wanna see a government run grocery store in New York do it better.

>>508752683
To be perfectly honest i don't care what the majority of sheeple like you think about anything, being dumb enough to think politicians represent you is immediately disqualifying.

>>508752765
the wages of all the workers in these government owned stores will be a minimum of 30 dollars an hour. also I don't know what city owned land he's talking about kek

>>508752946
poor people can also just go to costco, which does the same thing as these "government owned stores"

>>508752894
>you're not represented by the elected people
>so instead you should just have the same shitty rich people in charge, just without them having to do the bare minimum to get elected

>>508748404
that's very impractical

>>508753081
I don't care about any of that shit, taxation is theft and i don't care wether it's the "people" doing it or some king, you can all fuck off.

>>508749151
they'll just make slave driving seem normal

>>508746791 (OP)
Food deserts around Jews and niggers? Oh no!
Anyway

>>508746791 (OP)
Nothing a mayor does is going to stop food you hysterical beanie boy.

>>508746791 (OP)
Republicunts hold three branches of government that are absolutely shitting the bed and they're missing their pants over the mayor of new York


Pathetic

>>508746791 (OP)
>owned by government
>communism
Aren't communists legal to kill?

>>508746791 (OP)
Now watch cuckservatives shilling for corpokikes.
>you can't do that!!!!

>>508747041
Right cucks be like
>Government monopoly bad! Corporate monopoly good!

Except if Trump is doing it then it's genius

>>508752946
I work for a government owned liquor store in a controlled State. I make awesome money as a manager. The benefits and health insurance are top-tier and my pension and retirement program is the second highest rated in the country. It's time to push back on some of these public monopolies. We all deserve better.

>>508746791 (OP)
based

>>508753599
No because all Communists are jewish.

>>508753322
>I don't care about any of that shit
Then don't mention it then dumbass.
Keep sperging out about some bs rule system because you think will help you become the government.

>>508753404
Most of the people salty about this are middle class boomers screeching they might lose a few bucks to have to pay the people who actually work.

>>508753322
Taxes are way too high

>>508750593
You literally don’t understand profit vs revenue, and you’re here lecturing other people about how businesses work.

>>508750335
>This guy easily won jewish neighborhoods in NYC running as an antisemite, this proves he's not an antisemite
>jews are only 10% of the population of NYC
Maybe it proves that in 2025 antisemitism is a winning platform, even in jew york. Enjoy the new paradigm shift.

>>508746791 (OP)
As we all know, whatever the government touches turns to gold

>>508746985
You're either trolling or a 100% faggot

>>508754148
I will keep mentioning it and you socialist parasites will seethe, government will inevitably become a thing of the past.

>>508754277
The based jews are also anti-semitic. Or are called self-hating jews.

>>508754278
What’s the book about

>>508754205
YOURE DAMN RIGHT! AND CENTRAL BANKING IS JUST ANOTHER TAX, FUCK THE FEDERAL RESERVE.

>>508754277
>>508754456
Any person of any race that advances jewish interests is the enemy of humanity.

>>508746791 (OP)
This is how you do “it.”

> Destroy small business
> Develop networks of allies to distribute food efficiently (soup kitchen, cafeteria)
> Word of mouth only
> Total nigger exclusion
> Blacks move to suburbs with big box stores
> Humanity wins

>>508746985
Yeah everything run by an all knowing AI. Good luck maybe in 50years but until then: No

>>508746791 (OP)
The aim is to destroy the cities s they can build their "15min cities" which are more like a 24 hr surveilled fishbowl

>>508754461
stuff

>>508754535
>which are more like a 24 hr surveilled fishbowl
and still refuse to lock up niggers and other assorted browns because muh racism?

>>508754469
The first American Revolution Colonists split off from England Empire over a tax hike from 2% to 3%
Same reason Confederacy split off from Union, over tax hike.
The American dream put everybody to sleep along with flouride and goyslop.

>>508746791 (OP)

buy an ad you bald fucktard

>>508754535
You are black.

>>508754586
Capitalism is not a White thing. It's a little bit Anglo. But it's almost entirely a jewish invention.

It's all fun and games until you run out of other people's money.

>>508754728
Imagine a White Europe that is
Anti- capitalist
Anti-Marxist
Anti-Zionist
That is National Socialism

>>508754586
Trvke, America died with the confederacy, only a second enlightenment will bring it back, my hope is with the Amish.

>>508746791 (OP)
This is the same argument retarded Americans have against healthcare. Meanwhile private healthcare is still popular in counties with free state healthcare. One existing doesn't negate the other. It simply follows the supply/demand curve and all the positives and negatives of each stage on the curve.

we used to have those here but they died out specifically because chain stores could afford to be cheaper so no one bought anything in government owned ones

>>508754854
America is alive and well. People don't see it, but it's gonna be good. The 80 year cycle is at 80 years the jewish house of cards will collapse.

>>508746791 (OP)
>>508748580
>>508751391
>>508747104
I can see Eric Adams getting elected for another term as an independent, I don't see why.

>>508754854
It will require a lot of hard work, and a little bit of fighting. It will be at least a decade of work to secure the American nation.

>>508746791 (OP)
good.
NYC should burn
Remeber to evacuate NYPD

>>508746791 (OP).

Zohran Mamdani cannot theoretically, and common sensically do that.

>>508755015
What game is that?

Communists, please take note --

Even the specter of a communist taking office producing an immediate effect of vast numbers of the wealthiest people moving out of your jurisdiction to jurisdictions that do not confiscate the wealth of the people. The secondary effect happens over the next 12 to 36 months as wave after wave of upper class wealth and middle class wealth moves out of your jurisdiction. Inevitably, you are left with a population of non-productive and non-taxpaying parasites and an entire city of leeches. Soon thereafter, bankruptcy and local societal collapse. See Detroit.

>>508747192
>what the fuck do we do about this insidious class of people that somehow worm their way into positions of influence and power?
>hmmm let’s consolidate all power into one unquestionable source. That’ll do.
Right now shekelberg uses his millions to influence the government to give him the edge over his competitors. If you just turn the government into the business, he’ll just get the position and then declare all competition illegal. Furthermore, now that he doesn’t actuallly have to do a good job to collect his millions, he won’t give a fuck about actually providing services.

>>508755034
You will be surprised at what our Muslim imports can accomplish.

>>508755112
It won't come to that jewboy.
New York is solid.

>>508754900
oooo, we can have hospitals in post offices, or maybe in DMV's!

>>508748067
>Cool, Where’s the money come from? Taxes?
No, the government creates money every time it spends. Why do people think the government needs your money to pay for things? The money doesn't exist until they spend it first.

>>508755362
I guess the taxes are used to put onto an israeli's Atm card, and to line AIPAC politician's pockets.

>>508747720
is this satire

>>508754728
Thatcher is wrong, though. The government is an origin point for money.

>>508755435
Taxes regulate inflation, redistribute wealth, and act as behavior modifiers (e.g. tax credit for having children, higher taxes on alcohol/cigarettes).

>>508746929
Home rule allows for it.

>>508755225
>It won't come to that

It has already been coming to that, retard, or have you not noticed over the last two decades that New York's electoral votes have gone down by three points while in that same time Florida has gained three electoral points. With a communist mayor of New York City, expect another quick three point loss in electoral votes in New York as the upper and middle class flee to cities and states with far less taxation.

>>508746791 (OP)
Sure all new yorkers and neighboring cities will use this in an orderly manner. Mutts can't catch a break.

>>508755549
>behavior modifiers (e.g. tax credit for having children, higher taxes on alcohol/cigarettes).
Pay welfare for niggers is what White man's taxes are used for. And israel.

>>508748946
Those army owned ones are surprisingly on the posts themselves retard, and the things allowed to be running on post that arent outright govt institutions are foodstuffs

>>508755446
>posting the fake ben cringe
This board is truly dead. Only brownoids and redditors left.

>>508755598
You jews don't understand America. This is why you lost. You don't have a feel for the land that Americans do, you're all migrants that strut around like you own the place while not knowing where you are.

>>508748852
It will put the local business under. New Yorkers will cry about "muh bodegas" a little bit. Then the government stores will fall apart as everything run by the NYC government does, leaving an enormous void.

>>508755446
No. Urbanites are legitimately retarded.

>>508746791 (OP)
>a bunch of proclamations of setting up an illegal government.
what jew theater is this?

>>508755472
The government has no means to generate revenue other than through taxation. Without the wealthy who invest their money to create jobs, and without laborers who produce the goods, there will be no goods to tax and no income to tax. The velocity of money falls off to nothing. The government revenue falls off to nothing and the entire thing collapses in on itself.

>>508755720
Trvke, and their cousins surbanites

>>508755682
You are two kinds of stupid. Communism is a jewish construct. The art of using other people's money for personal gain is the oldest jewish trick.

>>508755746
That is not true. Sovereign wealth funds are example. Another is the postal service (at least in theory). Nothing prevents the government from running a service that pays for itself and generates revenue.

>>508755746
I understand you have talking points, but you're simply wrong. The chartalists are correct -- money is a creature of the state.

The government creates money every time it spends. You don't have money to pay taxes until the government spends it into existence first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9Oqog

>>508746985
Based communist chink cartel member

>>508750417
This is actually how it’s intended to work. Part of the point of these subsidies is to insulate farms from the perverse incentives of the free market, keep them producing low-profit foodstuffs like corn and wheat when the rational move is to switch to cash crops, and stabilize the price of said foodstuffs against the potentially sharp price variations induced by supply and demand. Keeping supply artificially high even when supply-demand equilibrium means keeping prices artificially high as well, to keep the farmers incentivized to keep pumping supply well past the equilibrium set by the market.

The rationale here is that letting the free market decide how much wheat and corn we have is a bad idea, because we can’t control it and all the basic assumptions of a functioning society go out the window when the price of bread oscillates 200% YOY; just look at how mad people got over eggs.

>>508755876
Yes I know. But we have to retake the cities rather than burn them to the ground. And one step against jews in any direction, is better than a step in their favor.

>>508755142
Rape kids? Yeah very "based".

>>508746929
He probably does but he'll get into power and realise that in a city the size of new york you just won't get the coverage you need without going bankrupt. If it was 25k pop town where all the groceries are overpriced simply because they always were then opening one or two shops that operate on lower margins would be relatively cheap and force the others to adjust. NYC would need like a thousand shops minimum and we're assuming here that the groceries on there are actually overpriced and it's not just the fact that the cashiers has to be paid enough to be able to afford living in that city.

>>508756106
They don't dare do that in USA. That shabbos golems love kikes and allow them to abduct kids with impunity. If a Muslim were ever to do such a thing they would be heavily persecuted and probably killed.

>>508746791 (OP)
Total Capitalist Death
Allahu Akbar

>>508756169
Sure buddy, that's why the based gubmint jews allow them to speak and breathe air.

>>508755832
>cousins surbanites
The burbanites are fine. They are the big dumb wall the urbanites cannot find their way though.

>>508755720
God i hate the hustle and bustle of cities.
>>508755832
>surbanites
kek

>>508756273
Based the burbs are more intricate than rootless cosmopolitans would have you believe. Murca is headed for greatness.

>>508746985
You’re a total idiot. That would be hell on earth.

>>508756331
Something that I admire about jews is that many of them will never admit that they're cooked. They keep harvesting child souls until the end. But they will never admit that it's so over, they only project that unto Gentiles as demoralization propaganda.

>>508746791 (OP)
Good, nyc gets what it deserves lol

>>508746791 (OP)
he doesn't believe in any kind of market. he's a socialist

>>508747041
100% this.
Also: government can be held accountable. businesses cannot!

>>508746985
so true, in fact in a perfect world everything should be free

>>508747192
>socialism
>consumers
wat

>>508746791 (OP)
>caring about (((small family))) businesses in jew york.
anon?

>>508747518
is it?

I am Jewish New Yorker and it is going to be a very bad place for me and my family if this muslims becomes mayor. I may have to consider moving to Florida.

>>508748221
selling them all off was a mistake

>>508748137
his solution is government grocery stores. I kid you not

New York is the modern concentration camp where people get castrated just to feel something.
t. Andre Gregory

>>508757324
Its interesting how the leftists will rally against kings one week, and the next week they will vote a dictator into office.

>>508756020
we need more greenhouses in america

>>508757307
Completely backwards.
As someone who is a lawyer, taking on the government is exponentially more difficult than taking on a corporation/business. No matter the size.

>>508749953
CHAZ/CHOP

>>508757456
Please leave New York. Go to Florida. New York City is full of drugs and smells like shot because you jews made it disgusting and scummy.

>>508757559
>the dictator of new York city
You're actually retarded. How much power do you think mayors have?

>>508746791 (OP)
that won't happen, what will happen is the government food stores will be utter shit, only able to sell wholesale rice and beans and budget ramen, and probably have queues and shortages and other bullshit

>>508757445
Yes. We deserve to have at least one real city in the entire country that isn't a complete boomer-spawl hellscape.

>>508750327
LOOOL!
Have fun paying collectively for nigger destroyed government grocery stores just like they destroy every other government service.
I swear leftism is a severe mental disorder where they can't observe present reality

>>508757718
To be fair niggers don't destroy anything.
Jews are destroyers.
Jews ruin everything.
Jews use niggers as a test dummy golem

>>508750848
What shelves? Niggers will treat this government service like every other: absolutely trash it

in all seriousness though, think about the headspace zoomers are in to think government is a good idea when it comes to anything, let alone food. 30 years ago this muzzie wouldnt even be allowed in the democrat party. you know how you blame men/simps for whores becoming millionaires on the internet, well blame zoomers (yourselves) for this shit.

>>508746791 (OP)
>every time this was tried it faied misrably
Enjoy the empty supermarkets goy, hope it was worrh it

Leftists will always fail with this shit because they oppose anything that would make the government run more efficient.
Look how much they whined because Musk forced government employees to send en Email.

If you can't do that this will just drain taxes and kill all small stores for an inferior service.

>>508757800
People really hate jews, we hate them. We are sick of them. So that we vomit up blood.

>>508752765
LOL you have yet to see high prices

>>508746791 (OP)
>It will completely fuck up the free market
Tim, shut up. Paid by Russia, got 10 million to subvert America with your garbage opinions. Never worked a day in your life. Making a profit isn't the way of life. It's capitalism. It abuses the workers. You can't be a billionaire and a humanitarian at the same time. It's easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle then a rich person to get into heaven, is written because it's true. https://x.com/GovLambright/status/1938092657932439930

>>508757805
Global holocaust is this year kike.

>>508746791 (OP)
It does present an interesting question that if a store could sell items at cost plus employee salaries without needing to worry about profit margins for shareholders and shekelstein with how much lower the costs could be.

Do I think it will work?
Give me a moment to breathe in while I prepare to laugh.

>>508757908
same model the subway is run on. what could go wrong?

>Commie arab crypto jew
goes full Great Reset/East Germany Communism

We had that shit. Inlcuding stamps and long cues waiting for coffee, bananas and crypto oranges from Kuba once a month

>>508758058
But the head of DDR was Jewish.

>>508758058
This time jew-free NYC

The profit margins for that kind of stores is like 1% to 3%, so this retard is just making a big spectacle over nothing.

What socialists usually do in this situation is just start to subsidize groceries with taxes, so they can pretend this kind of program is a big success, and Big businesses have huge profit margins.
Create a big Lie.

Just be forewarned, here in Chile we know all the communists' dirty tricks.

>>508758119
why "but"? Most of them were kikes or crypto kikes, including Merkel.

>jew-free NYC
Optic games. Its like the (((anti-semisitm))) at all the jewish-led universities that was part of the game.

Its all about fulfilling the messianic "prophecy" of destroying "Edom" and letting the "Sons of Ishmael" doing the dirty job to eradicate the "Amalek".

Must be handy to have an parasite ethnic that can shape shift as White and Arab. But hey, i am answering a kikeflag user. You'll know best.

>>508746791 (OP)
A muslim pajeet fucking embarrassing.

>>508748946
Government-run stores might make sense in a remote area to encourage people to live there. In NYC this will quickly become an inefficient patronage program. There are many conflicting goals, so nothing will get done. This candidate is suggesting neighborhood discussions to determine what will be sold in the stores and how they will operate, for example.

What's this bogus obsession with low prices, food is incredibly cheap. Why wont anyone actually remove immigrants and cap immigration?

>>508757846
That makes no fucking difference in the long Run.

This stupid fuckign retard with his defund the police and failed communist program is gonna create a disaster in NYC and then what is going to happen?. People are gonna go back to vote for Israel-backed candidates.

If I was more cynical I would think this guy is just a plant to make people think every politician that doesn't support Israel is a fucking commie retard.

>>508749842
Based. Jews tricking goy scum into importing the third world.

>>508746791 (OP)
Small businesses are already competing with bottom line prices from big corporate stores. The government run store should see this and set their prices in line with the small businesses. It's about going against the big corps not small businesses. Having profitless prices may be an issue, but how much is greed really driving prices even among small businesses? The government has the numbers.

>>508748580
>>born just in time to watch NYC implode
The 70s already came and went. So you missed that as well.

>>508749842
If Jews didn't do evil shit no one would really care that they run the banks, media, and are commonly landlords. If they just didn't push shit to such evil ends, no one would even care about Jews at all. But they always do this, every single fucking time, and get kicked out of every country they do it in. How can they wilfully be so parasitic when it goes against basic logic? Of course you'll piss off millions. Not only do Jews break many laws, they break expectations of basic human dignity.

>>508752541
Who cares. NYC is a lost cause anyway. Let them have their experiment. You’re never going to change their mind.

>>508746791 (OP)
I'm going to scoop up properties in NYC for cheap once this muzzrat destroys the city and become a Jewish slumlord