>>508776088 (OP) Being independent means that you can chose your destiny. You can choose between whiteopia and white genocide for example. UK went for door #2 but that has nothing to do with the validity of independence as an idea.
>>508777010 >Brexit was never about migration It was one of the main concerns and the idea was that without the EU pushing quotas immigration would stop
>>508776088 (OP) It's a 2 way road, UK shitskins lost EU citizenship too at least.
AnonymousID: Zj86tczV
6/26/2025, 1:36:39 PM No.508777595
>>508777398 you are confusing populism with true intentions obama wanted to close Guantanamo trump wanted to build a wall merz wanted to reduce debt etc...all populist lies
>>508776502 nothing stopped them from controlling immigration as a EU member. they could have kept out and kicked out all the migrants they wanted. the EU couldn't do shit, especially as the UK was a net contributor. making Brexit about immigration was a huge lie.
>>508777595 No I'm not confusing anything, I'm just pointing out what people expected from Brexit, what politicians say is another thing and usually goes against the will of said people.
And people expected exactly that, the stop of immigrants specially influenced by the entire "Syrian" "Refugees" crisis and the weekly terrorists attacks in European soil like Bataclan
>>508777680 Baby boomers are aged 80-60 now. They're leaving the work force, no longer paying tax and needing health care/social care. They're increasing immigration as a short term solution to this. They've also legalized euthanasia so that might help.
>>508777595 1 million russian casualties and an unwinnable war was always the intention of Putin, that's how oligarchies work
AnonymousID: me5MqLc/
6/26/2025, 1:47:58 PM No.508778151
>>508776088 (OP) and the best part about this is that anglo cucks won't do shit, as usual
AnonymousID: eNib5chF
6/26/2025, 1:48:18 PM No.508778172
>>508777010 >>508777595 you're both right, there were a myriad of reasons, all wrapped in the idea of sovereignty, including avoiding being part of the Euro currency, the EU army and regulations.
>>508777823 there was the migrant crisis going on at the time and refugee quotas and the prospect of Turkey joining the EU was being floated.
the problem was that the public were slight majority brexit voters, while a near total majority of sitting mps were hardcore remainers determined to keep us attached to the EU regardless, it was a shitshow.
it was right to look upon EU as some bullshit socialist mess, look at the problems foisted on the European south from the Euro currency and Deutsche bank domination.
Also the leaders of your country pumped out pro-Brexit propaganda because they wanted to weaken Europe. And stupid morons in my country fell for it.
AnonymousID: OJrBJV1r
6/26/2025, 1:54:04 PM No.508778501
>>508778368 Your FSB anti eu campaign popped too early with bongland. But you managed to turn bongland into third world Bangladesh so it wasn’t all for naught I guess
>>508778215 They were always very anti European and they rather want a fellow commonwealth nbugu and suckdeep dickshit as neighbours than fellow Europeans. Okay POOLISH are peak trash and England got flooded with them but the other options are obviously worse.
AnonymousID: 68vc3ZID
6/26/2025, 1:54:47 PM No.508778538
>>508778172 The UK had a permanent opt-out from the eurozone and will need to comply with EU regulations regardless of it wants to continue trading with the EU. The difference is that now the UK will have no say in making these regulations.
>>508776088 (OP) It was a fucking stupid idea sold with lies and should be reversed, if possible.
AnonymousID: jH/k2pXL
6/26/2025, 1:54:57 PM No.508778556
>>508778029 No you can find people raising serious concerns about funding the baby boomers retirement 40 years a go. Democracy lends itself to short-term, reactive thinking however. If someone in the 80's, for example, suggested putting an amount of money from north sea oil into a national wealth fund to cover the inevitable shortfall they would have been laughed at.
AnonymousID: jH/k2pXL
6/26/2025, 1:56:01 PM No.508778616
>>508778368 Cry all you want. Immigration was the single most important issue for many people who voted brexit.
AnonymousID: eNib5chF
6/26/2025, 1:56:22 PM No.508778630
>>508778368 >especially not your elites no shit. Regardless, I don't care. Conscious Brexit voters always understood things would get worse before they got better and I welcome the acceleration aspect of them giving us so many brownoid so quickly. The pendulum must swing back at somepoint.
>>508777680 its punishment for brexit the bureaucratic class in england was almost exclusively against brexit so this is their punishment for normal white brits wanting to be their own people "oh you don't like french and polish people diluting your identity? well we're gonna import a bunch of africans and indians then!"
AnonymousID: eNib5chF
6/26/2025, 1:59:10 PM No.508778797
>>508778538 yes, and neither side of campaigning politicians thought to even talk about that option, The brexiters because they knew it was a vote winning to say brexit would reduce immigration and the remainers because they're all a bunch of dippy, no borders communist wankers who absolutely want as much immigration as possible.
AnonymousID: 68vc3ZID
6/26/2025, 1:59:15 PM No.508778806
>>508778630 Now THIS is grade A copium. You'll get more jeets, abduls and ngubus, and when you get mad about it, you'll get even more jeets, abduls and ngubus. All because you thought you were too good to sit around the table with continental Europeans as equals.
>>508778630 look nigel you live on a small island with no resources your ancestors knew in order to live comfy you need to expand into foreign land and grab the resources now unfortunately (for you) indians and Africans don't want to be robbed. so in order to still gain something, you must pay. and whatever you pay accumulates and the wealthy come over to your place to spend it - why else would they need the money for?
so either accept to be poor - or accept migrants no in-between
>>508778819 >accept to be poor - or accept migrants What's actually happening is both
AnonymousID: eNib5chF
6/26/2025, 2:01:40 PM No.508778933
>>508778819 >accept to be poor that is the exact conclusion thinking brexiters arrived on, and that it would be worth it. unfortunately our leaders are complete traitors.
AnonymousID: jID8c2Xt
6/26/2025, 2:03:52 PM No.508779058
>>508776088 (OP) It was punishment right? For voting for Brexit, voting the 'wrong' way? That's how it seemed to me >Brexit >Leftists pissed >suddenly massive influx of boats filled with invaders
>>508778806 >All because you thought you were too good to sit around the table with continental Europeans as equals. this shockingly blinkered point of view is barely worth responding to, all I will say is that the EU and Europe are two very different things.
>>508776088 (OP) keeping in power those who voted against brexit wasn't the brightest idea
AnonymousID: 68vc3ZID
6/26/2025, 2:06:55 PM No.508779210
>>508779058 No, this was the intended goal. Poles, Hungarians, Romanians etc. became too expensive so the UK ruling class figured the UK had to leave the EU so that it was easier to hire abduls, keets and ngubus. Stupid bri'ish proles were told it was about "national sovereignty", "more funding for the NHS" and other nonsense and they bought it because they'd been brought up on decades of europhobic propaganda.
>>508779064 The British disdain for the EU is a direct consequence of the British disdain for continental Europe. Poles are stupid and lazy, the Germans are all closested Hitlers who want to invade Britain, the French are all closested Napoleons who want to invade Britain, the Spanish, the Greeks and the Italians are lazy leeches and so on. This is literally how your media presents Europe. And you won't convince me otherwise, because I can speak your language and know what you say and how you think.
>>508779210 incorrect, those very same elites lost tons of money when they lost easy access to European markets >decades of europhobic propaganda. you're just talking complete shit. But nevermind this a waste of time anyway.
>>508779058 Idk in a way having nonbritish people of a different race might help keep them separate from the immigrants whereas dumping a bunch of whites into britain might just dilute britishness you can't be muslim and british you can't be indian and british you can't be black and british despite any claims to the contrary
AnonymousID: eNib5chF
6/26/2025, 2:15:51 PM No.508779732
>>508779412 >The British disdain for the EU is a direct consequence of the British disdain for continental Europe. completely wrong but again this is not worth bothering to argue the toss about. You're an ideologue and I can't undo that. The British love Europeans >This is literally how your media presents Europe you think we hate you because the tabloids make jokes? that's fucking retarded.
it was out of love for the Europeans that brexiters hope the EU would collapse.
AnonymousID: xdmZayZ+
6/26/2025, 2:16:05 PM No.508779744
>>508777105 >Thank god anyone in the UK is not allowed to roam freely around Europe now. I sailed to near Brest last week and went into frogland without seeing any kind of official, and roamed around. So anon what's to stop me roaming around the rest of yuroop, if I can breech the defences of fortress frogland so easily?
AnonymousID: Zj86tczV
6/26/2025, 2:22:39 PM No.508780130
>>508779325 the question is what Poland can realistically give to the UK Africa gives coffee, cocoa, metals, fertilizer, uranium, gold etc India gives spices, cotton and textiles, rice, fruits, salt, grain, diesel nowadays Arabs oil and gas obviously But Poland? and don't quote some meme trade balance in USD, virtual checkbooks and gedepe bloat is meaningless
>>508776088 (OP) Holy shit this is an absolute failure for the UK how can Nigel garage sleep at night
AnonymousID: nAbxTvKv
6/26/2025, 2:26:07 PM No.508780337
>>508776088 (OP) When are the Brits going to kill all of the sand niggers already?
AnonymousID: WPpa7OCA
6/26/2025, 2:30:49 PM No.508780611
>>508780130 >>508780215 Now the question is, is filling your country with jeets and pakis worth it for having a few extra types of rice available on store shelves?
>>508778819 >no resources We have the wind (pic related), and we can grow our own food
We're investing in nuclear energy too
You think everybody has to give a shit about your corrupt country because you have oil and gas. No. We won't buy your oil and gas. You can shove it up your arse.
>>508777010 England had alot of sway so that idea is total BS, Tories just used EU as a get out of jail free card for all their shitty policies
AnonymousID: Zj86tczV
6/26/2025, 2:45:14 PM No.508781401
>>508780611 my intuitive guess is yes, for the average brit
>>508780659 you can't buy our resources directly because of sanctions. Which makes trade with the global south even more crucial and accelerates. >wind lmao >nuclear and top uranium producers are in Africa
>>508779425 Why are you such a disingenuous cunt The Brexit campaign was actually built upon the narrative that easterners are evil Farage stated that he prefers indians over easterners https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/04/23/why-britains-anti-immigration-candidate-prefers-indians-to-eastern-europeans/
>>508780968 we don't have state tv unfortunately but our TV tells us just the same gedehpee fairytales which can be discarded. So no pawel I'm thinking in terms of civV luxury resources, and Britain starts with sheep some coal and not much else. Have you ever been to the uk?
AnonymousID: ZTFd6Gnu
6/26/2025, 2:49:52 PM No.508781659
>>508776088 (OP) Don't care. They don't import me anyway to care. I enjoyed the seething of the Polish toilet cleaners a lot though.
>>508781516 honestly at the time I though Farage was just playing vote winning games by courting the anti-racist/progressive vote >The Brexit campaign was actually built upon the narrative that easterners are evil that's hyperbolic, obviously the situation is worse now, but at the time Eastern Euros as a migrant workforce was not something to celebrate, they had same influence on suppressing wages and sending the money back home and the Polish made up the highest foreign contingent in our prisons. I can't speak for all, but thoughtful brexiters wanted to end this exploitative situation and end the brain drain on Eastern Europe. Again it was out of a sense of nationalism that the Poles should be in their own country, working hard to make it a better place. we downright love the Poles actually.
>>508782826 >that's hyperbolic, obviously the situation is worse now, but at the time Eastern Euros as a migrant workforce was not something to celebrate, they had same influence on suppressing wages and sending the money back home and the >Polish made up the highest foreign contingent in our prisons Man fuck poles >I can't speak for all, but thoughtful brexiters wanted to end this exploitative situation and end the brain drain on Eastern Europe. Again it was out of a sense of nationalism that the Poles should be in their own country, working hard to make it a better place. we downright love the Poles actually. You won poles are no longer a problem Brexit was a success picrel
>>508784472 >You won poles are no longer a problem well this was certainly one good effect, Poland benefits by keeping their young people at home, good for them. >Brexit was a success picrel you're not telling me anything I don't already know.
AnonymousID: NPIzS0F/
6/26/2025, 4:25:38 PM No.508787984
>>508781401 >you can't buy our resources directly Thank fuck for that. I hope the UK never does business with Russia ever again. Unless Russia gets a sensible government for once.