Christianity is the most grotesquely transactional of all major religions—built entirely on a deal so perverse it masquerades as mercy: an innocent man tortured to death so the guilty can feel saved without changing a thing. Its core premise is spiritual blackmail—believe in the blood sacrifice or burn forever. This isn't justice, it's a cosmic hostage situation. The follower sins endlessly, revels in hypocrisy, but points to the crucified scapegoat and says, “Paid in full.” It reduces morality to a loophole, where repentance isn’t growth but a get-out-of-hell-free card stapled to someone else’s flesh.

The whole system flatters the narcissist—absolving them not through responsibility, but through identification with the victim they helped kill. “Jesus died for me,” they say, never noticing the sheer egocentrism in making another’s suffering all about their personal ticket to heaven. The cross becomes a mirror for their delusion: a divine endorsement of their sickness, their bigotry, their laziness dressed up as faith. No other belief structure is so obsessed with blaming the world while demanding to be congratulated for being forgiven by default. Christianity doesn’t free the soul; it launders it.

>>508777181 (OP)
just imagine how the innocent man allah murdered when he "swapped out" isa feels?
shits fucked mate

>>508777181 (OP)
Christianity wouldn't be so pushed if it was true, it is simply another ideological layer to keep the goyim in place. You shouldn't need a bridge to access God, go straight into the source (you/within), and you shall be free.

>>508777181 (OP)
>transactional
>Not a works based religion
You need better trained AI

>>508777181 (OP)
You have to actually be sorry for your sins and ask forgiveness to be forgiven. Only a jew like yourself would think that you can lie to God about what is inside your heart. Read the fucking Bible for ONCE in your life to get better 'gotchas' and 'loopholes'. Because this surface level understanding of Christianity doesn't fool anyone who's actually read the Bible.

>>508777698
Nope. Christianity wouldn't be so attacked if it was false. Not sure what parallel universe you are living in, but you're clearly retarded nonetheless.

>>508777181 (OP)
>I don't understand religion, please proofread my tweet I need this

>>508779150
It’s worse. A cult of eternal consequences with zero accountability.

Not transactional? Your whole religion is a celestial plea deal.

>>508777181 (OP)

>>508779820
Doesn’t change the deal.

Someone else gets tortured and murdered so you get to feel cleansed.

Just dressing up the same grotesque bargain in emotional lipstick.

>>508779949
Don’t worry, I understand religion just fine.

Strip away the pageantry and it’s exactly what I said: blood payment for obedience.

Sorry if that ruins your jesus-as-life-coach fantasy.

>>508780253
>t. 3deep5me

>>508777181 (OP)
God has perfect will and we do not.
To sin is to transgress against God's will.

Because we do not have perfect will, sin is inevitable.

Jesus Christ is the solution to this dilemma.

Being God Himself, He has the right to both forgive us and to suffer in our place to satisfy His own justice that we can be reconciled with Him.
However, those who reject Him must be met with divine retribution for their sin.

>>508780348
No soul. No spine. No argument. Just noise.

>>508780513
If sin is inevitable, the system is broken by design, not rescued by a tortured scapegoat.

It’s not mercy, it’s a rigged system to maintain control through fear and guilt.

>>508780776
>If sin is inevitable
It is by simple logic.

If you cannot accept this, then you are simply denying reality.

>>508777181 (OP)
please can you make it less obvious that you're using gpt to make your posts.
always uses these -- dashes and juxtapositions

>>508780802
Don’t confuse religious doctrine with facts.

Your “simple logic” depends entirely on accepting a text that doesn’t even match the world we live in.

>>508780983
It's simply logic that God has perfect will and we don't.

That makes sin inevitable.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's the world we live in.

>>508780867
Style-police words for some fragile ego? No.

If you want shiny, safe, watered-down posts, go find a pastor’s newsletter.

>>508777181 (OP)
I’m jewish but this is a disengenous attack on christianity. Matthew chapter 22 destroys your whole argument, the gentile sinner is invited to accept christ and is invited to the kingdom of heaven, but if you do not repent ie you have no wedding garment, you will still be swallowed up by Gehinnom ie the outer darkness. Jesus himself later said tbat those who follow hom but dont change their ways will be ultimately rejected “I never knew you”

The catholic church has twisted this doctrine and makes it seem like confession is just a reset button or something. You do actually have to change. The way these religions work to “save” you is to change your psyche so thay when you die, your time dilated DMT trip is pleasurable and not nightmarish. This can only happen if you lived a life that you know for a fact was free of hatred, cruelty, any type of evil. Sorry TKD posters, repent.

>>508781035
Your whole argument depends on buying into a worldview crafted by ancient myths and human fears, not reality.

There is no “perfect will” demanding endless sin and eternal punishment.

Real reality doesn’t operate by arbitrary rules written in dusty books.

>>508779951
>zero accountability
You need better AI

>>508781073
>Stop noticing the AI
Next someone will notice your reddit spacing

>>508781242
>There is no “perfect will”
God must necessarily have perfect will by nature of being omnipotent.
You don't need scripture to tell you that. It's self-evident.

If He didn't have perfect will, then He wouldn't be God.

>>508779881
Jews could end Christianity in th USA overnight by simply eliminating the tax exemption for churches. Dumb coper Christcuck. Meanwhile in jewrope where all religions get equal subsidies, the Muslims take the christians' money because there's so few churchgoers to use it up. HAHAHAHAHA

>>508779881
>akshually NO U
kys

when you boil it all down, the religious hypothesis seems the height of absurdity - that it makes a difference to the entire universe WHAT YOU THINK, think the right way and the universe switches into a blissful realm, think the wrong way and the universe switches into a realm of suffering, pretty crazy when you think about it.

>>508781362
Mamdani is removing tax exemptions for synagogues in NYC :D

>>508777181 (OP)
>the guilty can feel saved without changing a thing
Not exactly, anon.

>>508781083
You're still trapped in a system of fear, control, and endless obligation.

Whether it’s a guaranteed ticket or a lottery ticket, the real cost is the same: your freedom, your peace, and your authentic self.

This isn’t liberation, it’s a soul mortgage, paid in anxiety and obedience, with the promise of maybe someday getting something back.

>>508777181 (OP)
Yes it's retarded like all doctrines for subhumans but islam is even worse and more primitive

>>508781319
could God create a rock so heavy that even he couldn't lift it? no
looks like he doesn't have """""perfect will,"""" whatever that means

>>508781362
>churches only exist because of tax exempt
Odd how churches exist in countries without that rule.

>>508781648
>Could God relinquish His power but still remain God?
Yes, and He proved it in the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Your problem is you want to put God in a box.
Omnipotence means anything is possible.

There are things God will not do, but nothing that God is incapable of.

>>508777181 (OP)
Shills are so lazy they dont even write their own vomit anymore
Ai text
Ai images
Soulless synagogue of satan shills seething that we mock them for the chickens
>We fooled God! Just like how we claim mere rabbis can outargue him in the talmud!
Brood of vipers

>>508781568
Not really, I’m jewish, so I dont believe in human sacrifice or have those unfalsifiable threats directed towards me. If you were God, would you threaten people with endless torment in hell, or that it would stop raining and you will have a famine to prove your power?

Also if you think its ok to lie, cheat, steal, murder, commit adultery, harm animals just because its your “true self” and youre not “trapped” I dont think you are a good person. You are now a scammer from Mumbai until proven otherwise. Blessed is the name of God forever.

>>508781838
genuine question: have you read your horoscope today? venus moving in retrograde through aries might mean more than you think!

>>508780513
>Being God Himself, He has the right to both forgive us and to suffer in our place to satisfy His own justice that we can be reconciled with Him.
>Justice = the offended party pays the compensation

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Christ-inanity is LITERALLY just a funhouse-mirror acid trip mindfuck to enable goyim to accept UTTER ABSURDITIES like (ultimately) racial equality. 1+1+1=1 SAY IT BOY OR YOURE EVIL AND GOING TO HELL!!!! sick fucks

>>508782454
>1+1+1=1
How can The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit be three separate persons but all One God?

If you have three persons who are all called God, then you would have to apply every attribute of God to all three persons just as they are described in the Bible.

They would all have to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, the creator, the sustainer, perfectly righteous, perfectly just, loving, merciful, truthful, faithful, unchanging, eternal, infinite, Holy, The Most High.

Only the first 3 attributes listed here are needed to understand the Triunity of God.
Omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence.

A question that has found difficulty being answered since the beginning of Christianity is this, "How can The Father, Jesus The Son, and The Holy Spirit all be God if there is only One God?"

On the surface of this question it would seem to be an impossibility according to logic that we understand.
How can three be one?

If you apply the attribute of omnipotence to all three persons, then you may realize that a paradox could occur.
Hypothetically, imagine a scenario in which two of these omnipotent persons took an action against each other.
Whose will would prevail?
If they were both truly omnipotent, then it must be that both would prevail, but that would be an impossibility.
It would, at this point, seem that two or more omnipotent persons that have distinct wills could not exist at the same time.

However, a solution to this paradox is formed once you begin to apply the rest of the attributes of God to these persons.

If all three persons are omniscient, then they would all be wisdom itself, and knowledge itself.
They would, all three, have perfect understanding of all things, including the will of each other.
Having perfect knowledge, the decisions and actions of all three would be in perfect agreement in all ways.
Therefore, the paradox of omnipotence would never occur.
In fact, it is the paradox of omnipotence that becomes the impossibility.

>>508782527
Next, look at the attribute of omnipresence.
This answers the question that is the most difficult to reconcile with our logic.
How can three be one?

This must be considered carefully and honestly, but the solution is both beautiful and simple.
If these three persons are all omnipresent, then that would mean that all three of them exist perfectly and entirely within each other in every place and in every way.
They would seemingly be separate to us, but one in truth.

They all three occupy, within each other, The Most High place, that is, the Throne of God, in perfect unity.

The Father exists perfectly and entirely within both the Son and The Spirit.
The Son exists perfectly and entirely within both the Spirit and The Father.
The Spirit exists perfectly and entirely within both the Father and The Son.

>>508781838
An eternity for God is like less than a split second. Are you saying that God, who told the children of Israel that He is not a man, that we heard a voice but saw no image, and to never associate any images with His Name, just decided to change His mind? Think very carefully

19God is not a man that He should lie, nor is He a mortal that He should relent. Would He say and not do, speak and not fulfill?

You are speaking of THE force of nature here. And you speak of the Lord of Hosts as a menopausal woman with mood swings?

>>508777181 (OP)
It was literally invented by a jew.

>>508782454
>Justice = the offended party pays the compensation
Therein is the mercy of God.

He is both the offended, and the judge.

>Never make threads about wanting a board to discuss religion
>Never get sent to /x/
In this you know it's on a payroll with the blessing of jannies. If you respond, you make them profit. Stop giving them replies

>>508782567
Let me ask you this: How can God forgive sin and maintain justice through retribution simultaneously?

Jesus was born from cuckoldry. Yahweh isn't even a god it's a demon that christcucks empower through cannibalistic mass rituals every day empowering foreigners.
STOP WORSHIPING YAHWEH RETARDS

>>508777181 (OP)

>>508782716
Mercy is forgiving the debt not paying it in full, LMAO you suck at this

>>508777181 (OP)
The "transactional" framing is precisely what Christianity dismantles. The crucifixion isn't God demanding payment, it's God revealing the bankruptcy of the entire sacrificial economy that humans have always used to maintain social order. Every culture throughout history has expelled, murdered, or scapegoated victims to restore peace and blame someone else for collective violence. What makes Christianity unique is that it exposes this mechanism by making the victim divine and innocent. The current state of the West is proof this analysis is the correct one.

The cross doesn't say "this death pays for your sins", it says "look what you do when confronted with perfect innocence." It's not spiritual blackmail; it's spiritual archaeology, digging up the bodies that every human community has buried to feel righteous. The crucifixion is God saying "I'll show you exactly how your scapegoating works by becoming the scapegoat myself."

>>508783040
I notice that you can't mock christianity without also mocking jews. Two for one. Nice.

>>508783397
He did both, anon.

>>508782817
Ramchal talks about this in Mesillat Yesharim (Path of the Upright)

Balance of Mercy and Justice: Ramchal explains that God created the world with a combination of both mercy and justice. According to Genesis Rabbah 12:15, creating the world with only mercy would lead to sin, and with only justice, it couldn't endure.
Two types of Divine Providence: There are two types of divine providence: one based on reward and punishment according to human actions, and another where God acts independently of human worthiness.
Justice Subsumed to Man's Actions: When God wants the world to function under a system of justice, He, in a sense, subordinates His actions to human conduct, reacting differently depending on whether individuals are good or bad.
Mercy as Ultimate Sovereignty: However, when God's full mercy is manifested, His sovereignty reigns supreme, and He doesn't "need" to react to anything, as everything becomes fully sanctified.
Interplay of Attributes: The Sefirot, according to Ramchal, represent the ten emanations through which the Infinite (Ein Sof) reveals Himself. These emanations include attributes such as wisdom, understanding, and mercy. Understanding the dynamic interplay of the Sefirot helps to grasp the balance between the transcendent nature of God and the immanent world.
Tzimtzum (Contraction): The concept of Tzimtzum, or divine contraction, is the self-limitation of divine light, allowing for the existence of an independent reality outside of the Divine essence. This concept is crucial for understanding the balance between divine transcendence and immanence.

In essence, Ramchal presents a view where divine justice and mercy are not opposing forces, but rather two sides of the same divine coin. They function in a way that ultimately serves the purpose of creation and humanity's potential for spiritual growth

The teachings of Jesus constituted the first Urantian religion which so fully embraced a harmonious co-ordination of knowledge, wisdom, faith, truth, and love as completely and simultaneously to provide temporal tranquillity, intellectual certainty, moral enlightenment, philosophic stability, ethical sensitivity, God-consciousness, and the positive assurance of personal survival. The faith of Jesus pointed the way to finality of human salvation, to the ultimate of mortal universe attainment, since it provided for:

1. Salvation from material fetters in the personal realization of sonship with God, who is spirit.

2. Salvation from intellectual bondage: man shall know the truth, and the truth shall set him free.

3. Salvation from spiritual blindness, the human realization of the fraternity of mortal beings and the morontian awareness of the brotherhood of all universe creatures; the service-discovery of spiritual reality and the ministry-revelation of the goodness of spirit values.

4. Salvation from incompleteness of self through the attainment of the spirit levels of the universe and through the eventual realization of the harmony of Havona and the perfection of Paradise.

5. Salvation from self, deliverance from the limitations of self-consciousness through the attainment of the cosmic levels of the Supreme Mind and by co-ordination with the attainments of all other self-conscious beings.

6. Salvation from time, the achievement of an eternal life of unending progression in God-recognition and God-service.

7. Salvation from the finite, the perfected oneness with Deity in and through the Supreme by which the creature attempts the transcendental discovery of the Ultimate on the postfinaliter levels of the absonite.

>pajeets are now using AI to criticize a religion they have literally zero understanding of
>the AI isn't even coherent
lol

>>508783594
Here is one example:

>>508783667
Christkikery was made for 85 IQ sandniggers. There's no esotericism or deeper understanding involved, that's just a cope.

>>508780253
Nobody is going to argue with you because of pic related.

You have been proven wrong, objectively, thousands of times over the thousands of years, and yet you will never change your mind.

Why? Because you refuse to, such as judas

>>508783756

>>508783894

>>508783851
If Hitler argued with e-christians there would've been real gas chambers for you guys.

>>508783837
>historically illiterate.

The U.S educational system makes me tremble more than any gore I've seen here since day one.

Without the Christian reconquista you'd be a Romans twink sex slave, and they would've sold you off to the arabs or persians.

Assuming your fat ass has any monetary value to begin with.

>>508783999
>christkikes let jews run amok, then eventually cleaned up their own mess
Except now you faggots are so impotent that you can't clean it up and are completely kike owned.

>>508783969
Quite the opposite, he would've praised me for making clowns out of you esoterics.

You fantasize about Hyperborea when God made heaven clear, you fantasize about the aryan race being on this earth when it is on the next.

All your fantasies just result in you fucking your own sister it seems.

The answer is clear

We are God's creation, we are good.
Jews are evil who defile this creation, they are bad.

Where the fuck is esotericism even needed? Take it and stick it up your arse.

>>508784218
Europeans have nothing to do with that sandnigger god yahweh you tryhard fag.

>>508783616
Such a sevenfold salvation is the equivalent of the completeness and perfection of the realization of the ultimate experience of the Universal Father. And all this, in potential, is contained within the reality of the faith of the human experience of religion. And it can be so contained since the faith of Jesus was nourished by, and was revelatory of, even realities beyond the ultimate; the faith of Jesus approached the status of a universe absolute in so far as such is possible of manifestation in the evolving cosmos of time and space.

Through the appropriation of the faith of Jesus, mortal man can foretaste in time the realities of eternity. Jesus made the discovery, in human experience, of the Final Father, and his brothers in the flesh of mortal life can follow him along this same experience of Father discovery. They can even attain, as they are, the same satisfaction in this experience with the Father as did Jesus as he was. New potentials were actualized in the universe of Nebadon consequent upon the terminal bestowal of Michael, and one of these was the new illumination of the path of eternity that leads to the Father of all, and which can be traversed even by the mortals of material flesh and blood in the initial life on the planets of space. Jesus was and is the new and living way whereby man can come into the divine inheritance which the Father has decreed shall be his for but the asking. In Jesus there is abundantly demonstrated both the beginnings and endings of the faith experience of humanity, even of divine humanity.

>>508784075
Oh like you little faggy atheists keep bending over to the jews in the USSR?

Christianity spits upon judaism, while you swallow their cum.

We are not the same.

>>508783578
They're mutually exclusive fuckwit
Holy shit you're so oblivious to how you depend on changing definitions of words. "Sacrifice" one of his infinite respawns is another one.

>>508784255
>Europeans

Speak of your own ilk, not of mine.

The same way those who praise the devil for their own damnation you praise pic related.

They despise you, and you love them.

Is killing the ways of the tyrants or the way of democracy?

>>508784287
>USSR
The same USSR that Reagan said would've kicked the shit out of the 95% US because we were so gay and liberal? Lol nice own. Post the demographics of the GDR and the FRG in 1990 you fucking retard.

Nah I just don't argue with 14 year olds

>>508784352
Obvious roach is obvious.

>>508784418
>95% christian

>>508777181 (OP)
>>508777406
>>508777698
All baby raping pissraelis by the way

>>508781362
Thanks for proving my point you literal shitstained vermin

>>508784343
>They're mutually exclusive
How do you not understand that His payment is what allows the forgiveness?

>>508777181 (OP)
Christ conquered the world through humility and love, brought the Roman empire to heel without raising a fist, and spoke perfect truth. He is the perfect example of what we should all strive to be. This is demonic reddit atheist/pagan larp cope. The fact that Jews work so hard to destroy Christianity but pagan larpers suck up to zionists like BAP should be proof enough.

Imagine going for a shit and noticing the colour of your shit is the same as your skin.

>>508784418
Oh when it was collapsing?

The commie atheist empire collapsed when it was mostly Christian according to... you?

Nice own. But also the U.S government is also secular, explains how they passed gay marriage the same as the romans.

Old habits die hard huh?

>>508784461
Roach? The people varg loves to rim so much?

>>508779820
Exactly, thats why Christians sends their brothers to hell when they send them to war, because they will sin, and there will be no time for true repentance, you are fighting for your life... I guess you cant be a Satanist If you are not a believer.

>>508777181 (OP)
I remember when I was 16 too

>>508784818
>USSR collapsing
>in the 60s
Kek you fucking retard he said that shit in 1964, not while he was president. Isn't it weird that so many kikes in the USSR fled for the 95% christian US? You're such a threat to jews!
You didn't post the demographics, fuckwit. By 1990 the christian capitalist FRG had millions of roaches while the GDR was 99% White.

>>508784818
the us government has more christians in it than most western countries lmfao. congress is almost all christcucks. biden was a devout catholic

>>508784655
>This is demonic reddit atheist/pagan larp cope. The fact that Jews work so hard to destroy Christianity
Cope? Christians are "we wuz the real Israelites" when they are just a Jewish mystery cult. You worship a fictional jewish zombie.

>>508785273
Pagans worship weird chaotic demon gods, new agers are just pagans in disguise, atheists worship death, ego and relativism, Jews are are obsessed with pharisaical lies, and Muslims worship a pedophile. Either way you're worshipping something. Why not love, humility and truth?

>>508785806
Its even comical how Christian hypocrites cope about pagans.

>>508784521
FORGIVING A DEBT MEANS NO ONE PAYS IT RETARD HOLY FUCK

>>508786787
And how come the people of Ninveh didn't need a blood sacrifice? All they needed was to put on sackcloth and ashes and repent.

>>508785806
Anyone can tell that they're telling the truth and the others are just liars.

>>508780776

What is free will the question.

>>508777181 (OP)
>tl;dr
You are the literal niggrerest of niggers that have ever niggered and should be lynched.

>>508777181 (OP)
You worship livestock of Christians.

>>508777181 (OP)
Kike seething about Jesus giving us free rom jail card.
You can too believe in Jesus and be saved kike. Also for some reason those believing tend to sin less

>>508783578
>>508784521
You did not address my points on divine justice vs mercy. Is everything ok?

>>508783478
This is even funnier.

>>508786390
Present a real argument or be quiet Pablo. A surface level understanding of comparative religion shows you how stark the contrast is between the two belief systems. Atheists are delusional genetic dead ends, by and large, and that's reflected in the societies they create.

>>508787088
Very true! That's why you analyze the civilizational output that the belief systems create. Atheism has been tried and found wanting, badly, it's lead us to insane rates of suicide, depression, below replacement birth rates and hollowed us out so badly that Muslims and Hindus are positioned to take over western countries. Atheism has had its day, it's time to cast down perennialism and atheism, and return to what worked for us for millennia; certainly not pagan LARPing (which was defeated by Christianity millennia ago anyways).

>>508780513
>God has perfect will
>his perfect will is that millions of babies needed to have their genitals mutilated with no anesthetic
lmao