Only antinatalism can bring end of all suffering. - /pol/ (#508783046) [Archived: 861 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: lLn5/txC
6/26/2025, 3:09:14 PM No.508783046
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Every religion and ideology promises end of all suffering, but only antinatalism can deliver.

You can rage, you can seethe, but this is all you can do about it.
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Anonymous ID: iwir+GLdUnited States
6/26/2025, 3:11:08 PM No.508783177
>>508783046 (OP)
>just die and let us reptilians repopulate your planet
jewish agenda
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Anonymous ID: HrHq4bHYFinland
6/26/2025, 3:11:09 PM No.508783181
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>>508783046 (OP)

How miserable and weak one must be if one is afraid of life?
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Anonymous ID: yAia7GKLUnited States
6/26/2025, 3:11:28 PM No.508783201
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>>508783046 (OP)
OK do it. Who cares.
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Anonymous ID: WrT58V8y
6/26/2025, 3:12:13 PM No.508783245
kikes don't care if some disobedient niggercattle don't reproduce, the obedient ones will
only way to win is TKD
Anonymous ID: TsQHw4r2Australia
6/26/2025, 3:12:21 PM No.508783257
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>>508783046 (OP)
This illustration is flawed as due to the close proximity of the matches, despite the chain being broken, the subsequent match would still be lit due to the heat. Otherwise yes, I completely agree. However retarded 99 IQ normalfags cannot control themselves and must have muh vagina so suffering will continue forever.
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Anonymous ID: mMCaqVo8United States
6/26/2025, 3:13:03 PM No.508783299
>>508783046 (OP)
Start with yourself
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Anonymous ID: 3rg9mf8RUnited Kingdom
6/26/2025, 3:14:19 PM No.508783367
>>508783046 (OP)
We have made no such promises.

We have made a pact to meet fate in eye and say bring the pain nigggggger.

While pulling the trigger in russian roulette.
Anonymous ID: O/lKdXBzCanada
6/26/2025, 3:15:14 PM No.508783422
>>508783046 (OP)
That ends everything, not just suffering.
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Anonymous ID: TsQHw4r2Australia
6/26/2025, 3:19:15 PM No.508783666
>>508783422
No, just humans. We will end one day anyway, may as well reduce the pointless suffering to a minimum.
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Anonymous ID: RL5m281oFrance
6/26/2025, 3:20:24 PM No.508783743
>>508783046 (OP)
Hi kike
Anonymous ID: dEJaKJ00United States
6/26/2025, 3:20:47 PM No.508783774
>>508783666
Lol, another self hating nihilistic leftist.
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Anonymous ID: eWywS0lnCanada
6/26/2025, 3:22:52 PM No.508783913
>>508783046 (OP)
Based. People only want you to breed so they can have power over your offspring and sadistically enjoy their suffering.
Anonymous ID: TsQHw4r2Australia
6/26/2025, 3:23:07 PM No.508783929
>>508783774
At no point during what I said did I bring up politics. Political stance is irrelevant to what I said.
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Anonymous ID: dEJaKJ00United States
6/26/2025, 3:24:43 PM No.508784030
>>508783929
But you are a leftist.
And yes your politics are at the center of your monstrous self hate.
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Anonymous ID: hDxEwX5hDenmark
6/26/2025, 3:25:04 PM No.508784046
>>508783046 (OP)
>Every religion and ideology promises end of all suffering,
Wrong. Not everyone shares your fixation.
Anonymous ID: O/lKdXBzCanada
6/26/2025, 3:26:08 PM No.508784103
>>508783666
Maybe you should kill yourself and let the rest of us enjoy our time here.
Anonymous ID: dNrfOrrbEstonia
6/26/2025, 3:26:26 PM No.508784126
>1pbid
Ok so you're not gonna explain it? You're just a faggot shill? Got it
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Anonymous ID: TsQHw4r2Australia
6/26/2025, 3:29:05 PM No.508784288
>>508784030
I do not use such retarded low IQ binary thinking. I am neither "left" nor "right". The things are think are too schizo and nuanced
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Anonymous ID: HYeLEc5QGeorgia
6/26/2025, 3:30:16 PM No.508784349
>>508783046 (OP)
Based kike.
Anonymous ID: dEJaKJ00United States
6/26/2025, 3:33:34 PM No.508784552
>>508784288
Lol, you're so low iq you'd willingly self delete your family.
Here's an idea, if you hate people and want them all dead; start with yourself maybe?
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Anonymous ID: /O47AkOMUnited States
6/26/2025, 3:36:12 PM No.508784710
>>508783046 (OP)
only weak ass faggot niggers complain about life (ie pain and suffering)
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Anonymous ID: IkdM0gmwUnited States
6/26/2025, 3:41:03 PM No.508785039
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>>508784710
I’m an old mother fucker and have enjoyed this life and when death occurs, I’ll enjoy that too.
Anonymous ID: 8+HW/zZtUnited States
6/26/2025, 3:43:31 PM No.508785195
>>508783046 (OP)
>only antisemitism can bring an end to all suffering
FTFY
Anonymous ID: Vk/ITQYIRomania
6/26/2025, 3:45:45 PM No.508785356
>>508783046 (OP)
Be good at tolerating pain and suffering and you will be succesful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx9k0avl2Vc
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Anonymous ID: pS6JHbaxFrance
6/26/2025, 3:47:14 PM No.508785473
>>508783046 (OP)
And then people will complain whites don't make babies.
You deserve what's coming to you. Good goy.
You have the choice to be alive or not right now, so go ahead and kill yourself
Anonymous ID: HYeLEc5QGeorgia
6/26/2025, 3:53:01 PM No.508785864
>>508784710
oh no, a poster on this internet cesspit thinks I'm a weak "ass" faggot nigger. How awful, how can I look at myself in the mirror again?
Anonymous ID: 4cLp2XaWCanada
6/26/2025, 4:11:06 PM No.508787040
>>508783257
This is a good point
For this to be effective, you'd have to have children, then wait for them to have children, then gather your family around you as the grandfather, and kill them all via poisoning or a giant bomb
This would remove 3 matches from the match line, and would provide enough space for the hypothetical future descendants not to burn
Family annihilation is the key
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Anonymous ID: Znc/xrxP
6/26/2025, 4:42:18 PM No.508789072
>>508783046 (OP)
Only antinatalism can bring end of all pleasure.
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Anonymous ID: CIjH6384United States
6/26/2025, 4:44:01 PM No.508789177
Not being an abusive/negligent parent is also a very effective way of breaking the cycle
Anonymous ID: YLJgrWI2Romania
6/26/2025, 5:22:23 PM No.508791657
>>508785356
The older you get tho, the more you find this bullshit insuferable
Anonymous ID: E1vra5jM
6/26/2025, 5:25:01 PM No.508791850
>>508784552
Doesn't make sense, a true boddhisattva of sudoku would refuse to commit the deed until everyone else has been freed of suffering first.
Anonymous ID: xqNP7MRd
6/26/2025, 5:26:43 PM No.508791973
>>508783046 (OP)
Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim nigger cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.
Anonymous ID: HbDJaj40United States
6/26/2025, 5:29:30 PM No.508792171
Pedos mad.
Anonymous ID: q9+bPjkPMexico
6/26/2025, 5:31:05 PM No.508792311
Why stop there, OP?
Lead by example and kill yourself.
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Anonymous ID: KtuqoUHkUnited States
6/26/2025, 5:31:27 PM No.508792329
>>508783046 (OP)
>suffering is le bad
why? it's just stimuli and information.
it's not evil or bad,you have no nonarbitrary framework to say so,it just is.
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Anonymous ID: ngJgfLBbUnited States
6/26/2025, 5:41:04 PM No.508793061
>>508783177
Accurate, a huge way we can beat the Jews is to have larger numbers than them (which we do) and they seethe at this fact. We need more pure white children. Why do you think they push racemixing for everyone but themselves so hard
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Anonymous ID: eWywS0lnCanada
6/26/2025, 5:58:04 PM No.508794275
>>508792329
You sound like Jordan Peterson. Faggot.
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Anonymous ID: tzLiU1x2United States
6/26/2025, 6:09:41 PM No.508795169
>>508794275
>pointing out arbitrary judgement values is le Peterson
>no argument
ok amoralist dog, don't reproduce
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Anonymous ID: y9FEKzCfUnited States
6/26/2025, 6:41:50 PM No.508797521
>>508793061
Double-edge sword. All you are doing is throwing more bodies to the grinder with that mindset.
Anonymous ID: U8JHjCyNPeru
6/26/2025, 6:42:24 PM No.508797562
>>508783046 (OP)
spendid idea, kill yourself right now
Anonymous ID: AWe9BNsvCanada
6/26/2025, 6:42:58 PM No.508797615
>>508783046 (OP)
Christ is King, baby-killer.
Anonymous ID: 47cdN6VZUnited States
6/26/2025, 6:45:03 PM No.508797744
>>508783046 (OP)
Antinatalism is for midwits to kill themselves. We actually need you midwits to breed so we can retake the west. Nothing is going to stop the niggers and pajeets from breeding. It won't stop factory farming. It won't stop the jewish menace or chinese animal abuse.
Anonymous ID: 6ROOo0EkUnited States
6/26/2025, 6:47:27 PM No.508797954
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>>508783046 (OP)
CHIGAU!
Anonymous ID: eWywS0lnCanada
6/26/2025, 6:48:49 PM No.508798069
>>508795169
Ah, yes, the classic pseudo-intellectual maneuver: reduce the entire phenomenological tapestry of human anguish to mere electrochemical irritation, as though Auschwitz was just a particularly intense notification bell.

You're mistaking ontological indifference for profundity, as if calling suffering "just stimuli" is some kind of moral insight instead of a catastrophic failure to grasp the existential weight of conscious experience. That’s not wisdom, that’s what happens when you read one paragraph of Nietzsche and misunderstand it completely.

And when someone points out your moral vacuity, you bark back like a wounded hyena, offended not by falsehood, but by the implication that meaning might actually require effort.

You’re not rational. You’re just numb. And numbness isn’t intelligence, it’s what corpses feel.

Sort yourself out.
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Anonymous ID: oC5ezXgOUnited States
6/26/2025, 6:51:57 PM No.508798289
>>508798069
still can't tell me why it's bad or evil without it being a preference.
cope.
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Anonymous ID: eWywS0lnCanada
6/26/2025, 7:03:57 PM No.508799147
>>508798289
Ah, yes, the sterile post-Enlightenment delusion that if morality can’t be quantified like a grocery receipt, it must be a mere preference. You’re confusing subjectivity with triviality, as though the felt reality of human suffering is on par with a Spotify playlist.

You speak as if invoking “preference” disarms the argument. but all you’ve done is outsource your ethical compass to a void, then call it objectivity. That isn’t clarity, it’s intellectual cowardice wearing a lab coat.

Pain matters because it confronts the conscious being with the raw, unignorable fact of vulnerability. If you can shrug at that, you’re not enlightened, you’re just comfortable.

Cope?
No, bucko. Care.
Because the alternative is rot.

Sort. Yourself. Out.
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Anonymous ID: Si+fyVkHUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:09:14 PM No.508799819
>>508799147
>more insane pretentious rambling
suffering can be overcomed, suffering can lead to betterment and virtue.
you (op actually) are making a value judgement with preferences.

without a objective arbiter of mortality,you can't make justified ought claims.


seethe.
sort your autism out.
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Sage ID: mCY1srXvUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:14:51 PM No.508800270
>>508783046 (OP)
Just kill yourself. Anti-natalism is the biggest cop-out for "I'm too scared to have kids because I know I'm a weak pussy incapable of raising my off spring to be better than me"
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Anonymous ID: eWywS0lnCanada
6/26/2025, 7:16:15 PM No.508800362
>>508799819
Ah. There it is. The tired post-structuralist hissy fit dressed up in pseudo-rational garb:

“Without an objective arbiter of morality, you can’t make justified ought claims.”
Well, congratulations. You’ve weaponized semantic nihilism like a child who’s learned to say “Why?” at the end of every sentence and thinks that counts as debate.

Listen, bucko — suffering doesn’t need an objective referee in the sky blowing a cosmic whistle for it to matter. It asserts its reality phenomenologically — that is to say, it declares itself through your own screaming nervous system whether or not a bearded deity stamps it with a gold star.

And this notion that calling it a “value judgment” refutes it? That’s not a counterargument. That’s just you admitting you’re too emotionally constipated to care unless God personally wrote it in MLA format.

You speak of virtue and betterment — as if those are value-neutral concepts — but then turn around and demand an “objective ought” to validate them. That’s like lighting your house on fire, then complaining that warmth is subjective.

And as for your final remark —
If you think “autism” is the insult that wins the war, then you’ve already lost the territory of basic decency and coherent thought.

Sort your self-deception out.
Before it sorts you out permanently.
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Anonymous ID: /sdyOV+RUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:19:24 PM No.508800595
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>>508800362
>reading the first few parts
>oh, it's ai
lol
imagine being a jeet and using AI to argue for you,and still fumbling the bag
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Anonymous ID: yoL6Az4vUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:25:17 PM No.508801021
>>508793061
Eugenics means that most people shouldn't breed, even in wild animals. Take big horn rams for instance there was a study done that showed that 5 rams, not 5%, sired over 60% of the brood.
Anonymous ID: klpGpmkQSlovakia
6/26/2025, 7:25:49 PM No.508801055
>>508800362
> using — to fuck with anons
I for one welcome our new AI overlords
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Anonymous ID: bIjH6VkMUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:27:21 PM No.508801164
I propose instead that instead everyone is implanted with a kill switch at birth and we allow everyone to live and reproduce as much as possible but everyone is lobotomized and fitted with a heroin pump. At the point they achieve their maximal happiness ratio they are immediately killed so they can never suffer again and that way maximal happiness is achieved. That's how you sound. Negative utilitarianism is retarded. You place disproportionate value on negative experience.
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Anonymous ID: eWywS0lnCanada
6/26/2025, 7:29:25 PM No.508801311
>>508800595
Ha ha ha ha I am surprised it took you this long to catch on. You have been arguing with ChatGPT this whole time.

>>508801055
Yeah honestly I was taking away the little lines before because it's a dead give away but I got tired of no one catching on.
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Anonymous ID: aXuZjeWORomania
6/26/2025, 7:31:10 PM No.508801434
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this won't work, the archons will reincarnate us in animals or repopulate it somehow. We need the entire earth to be uninhabitable and our souls to escape. The earth must be uninhabitable.
Every living being should die.
Trillions must die.
Anonymous ID: 7sXGa1E1United States
6/26/2025, 7:31:49 PM No.508801500
>>508783201
Came here to post this. So glad I have Jesus.
Anonymous ID: yoL6Az4vUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:34:20 PM No.508801678
>>508801164
Lobotomies increase IQ for some reason. This is a report detailing IQ increases after a temporal lobe lobectomy, which is a PC way of saying lobotomy.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3090063/
>A significant increase in IQ was found in the surgical group after an extended follow-up period of >5 years. This IQ change was not found in the nonsurgical comparison group. IQ increases were associated with cessation of antiepileptic medication and changes in MRI-derived gray matter volume.
Anonymous ID: DhJ+3zzZUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:35:46 PM No.508801784
>>508783046 (OP)
>im too weak to not be a piece of shit
Anonymous ID: 5XduA5z0United States
6/26/2025, 7:35:58 PM No.508801799
>>508801311
heh,you had me then
asshole
Anonymous ID: 7Hx++bTGLithuania
6/26/2025, 7:37:55 PM No.508801935
>>508783046 (OP)
Good point, I agree.
>>508783177
Nobody should repopulate the planet.
>>508783181
Life is guaranteed to contain a lot of pain and suffering. Nothing justifies subjecting a new sentient being to life without their prior consent.
>>508783201
A better use of one's time is convincing other people not to reproduce. That way you don't only eliminate your own suffering, but also prevent many lifetimes worth of pain and suffering of not-yet-existent beings.
>>508783299
Pretty sure OP is not planning to reproduce any time soon. So he already did.
>>508783422
Ending all sentient beings would be ideal. Sentient beings are not the only thing that exist in the universe though.
>>508783666
Better for animals to go as well. The suffer just as humans do.
>>508784126
Nothing justifies bringing new sentient beings into existence, since we know their life will be full of suffering and pain.
>>508789072
Not sure what the point of ending pleasure is. Antinatalists are typically more concerned with ending pain and suffering rather than pleasure.
>>508792311
See above. Antinatalism != everyone should kill themselves.
Anonymous ID: 7Hx++bTGLithuania
6/26/2025, 7:39:33 PM No.508802069
>>508800270
Antinatalism does not mean everyone should kill themselves.
>>508801164
I don't think your example has anything to do with antinatalism. How does your idea achieve maximal happiness?
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Anonymous ID: bB+9hwydUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:42:53 PM No.508802330
>>508783046 (OP)
I never understood why anti-natalists don't just kill themselves.
Anonymous ID: klpGpmkQSlovakia
6/26/2025, 7:46:09 PM No.508802600
>>508801311 checked
Kek, good job.
Turingfags BTFO
Anonymous ID: xVV5JlTBPoland
6/26/2025, 7:54:38 PM No.508803305
>>508783046 (OP)
I can impregante your GF
Anonymous ID: mCY1srXvUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:56:41 PM No.508803472
>>508802069
There is no point to life besides continuing life. We're attempting perfection. If you dont want to participate then kindly delete yourself.
Anonymous ID: pL3aALkKUnited States
6/26/2025, 7:59:41 PM No.508803747
>>508783046 (OP)
I reject ending all suffering as a goal. Just reduce pointless suffering.
>life is pointless
KYS and skip the wait lol
Anonymous ID: swu3NHNIUnited Kingdom
6/26/2025, 7:59:56 PM No.508803771
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>>508783046 (OP)
>Only antinatalism can bring end of all suffering
its not enough, you don't make it work if amish or mormons or the jarawa tribe can just ignore you- you would have to blow up the world or something.
there are other utopian ideas that are more practical.
Anonymous ID: IkHs6O4OUnited States
6/26/2025, 8:01:15 PM No.508803871
>>508787040
antinatalists are truly the most dangerous and evil people. even soulless totalitarian communists have more ethics than you.
ZaBici ID: Vq9D0LCdRomania
6/26/2025, 8:07:56 PM No.508804433
>>508783201
Apparently you lol