Not everyone needs to be employed. Even with the current level of automation the world could survive with probably less than 15% of the population working. Farming is automated as fuck, automatic waterers, automatic pickers, even a whole farm can be run by one guy. It's on such a massive scale, this mindset of "everyone needs a job... OR ELSE" like... It's only getting more inefficient, jobs are only getting more fake and made up. Your kids are considering doing things like onlyfans for money, when does it end, when can people just admit that employment is basically just daycare for normies and not some god sent way to make the world a better place. I've always said, every McDonald's employee could get fired tomorrow and the world would literally just be a better place.

>NEET apologist thread
Unemployment should be punishable by death.

>>508784393
Your job is a death sentence lil bro

>>508784305 (OP)
This is especially true with the rise of ai and advances in robotics, eventually the top 1% of humanity will be the only people employed as theyre the only ones capable enough to contribute to productivity

>>508784773
This is a fallacy. First of all money =/= productivity, it only = demand. The 1% is so powerful because they control manufactured demand, NOT because of some fantastical idea of """productivity""" whatever your retarded ass thinks that is.
Second of all the biggest source of income in the future will probably be land ownership. What I'm saying is the undeniable truth, most of the economy is a daycare, you either see it or you don't.

>>508784990
I agreed with your post

>>508785102
Ok nigger

>>508784305 (OP)
Not wrong but wagies desperately need something to base their identity and "value" on.

And then they wonder why actual capitalists laugh at their entitled bullshit.

>>508784393
lmao, i guarentee you i am more financially secure than people that live paycheck to paycheck - and i dont work a single day, not even a single hour.

>>508785279
How do European countries sustain such robust socialist support networks? Probably a number of nefarious nationalized schemes tied to neo-colonialism

>>508785234
Why should the state give you something for free?

>>508784305 (OP)
Agree. We should be slef sufficient and independent. Most people's days should be occupied tending their homestead, producing their own food, clothing, raising children, pursuing art, intellectual endeavors, inventing. But no, you have to file a 21-B before 10:00am becasue...........????? You don't even know.. lol

>>508785510
This guy is making an argument that I feel does not align with my OP. I'm not arguing for government socialism, I'm just saying that the current capitalist system is inefficient and based on suicidal moralism

>>508785628
Maybe. At the same time, growing food en masse in giant farms is obviously most efficient

>>508784305 (OP)
i still rock that hairstyle....

>t. core millennial

>>508784305 (OP)
>Even with the current level of automation the world could survive with probably less than 15% of the population working.
Even if this were true, do you think anyone would actually abide by just surviving?

Fact of the matter is men don't work hard to just survive. They work hard because that's what women expect from them. Women don't want to just survive. Women want to be fabulously wealthy and they expect men to work themselves to death to provide them with that.
The jobs are getting more fake and gay because women demand to be given fake jobs where they pretend to work for money, and they only want that because they think it will entitle them a man who makes even more than them.

Remove women from the equation and most men would be happy living in minimally furnished 1-bedroom apartments and enjoying hobbies with their friends. As long as women are around your half-baked idea is doomed to fail.

>>508784305 (OP)
You're kinda on to something.

Taxpayers funded the internet and much of the computation technology required to automate.

Do American taxpayers ever see a return on these advances? No. We get gouged, priced out, etc.

All Americans should at least receive some kind of related stipend for funding the tech that runs our lives now.

>>508785880
same
>t. norwood bangs

>>508785970
Hmm that's actually an interesting point.

>>508785737
true. But I would much rather grow my own for obvious reasons. chems, fertz, hormones, and low quality and variety. Supplement with grains and rice by the automated farms. But fruit, veg, and meat, do it yourself :). I

>>508784393
Yes, we should start with the pensioners

>>508785952
I mean, yeah, jobs are for identity. Then the money you make at the job you identify with goes to products that support your identity. It's all such a pointless waste

>>508786049
I'm just saying not everyone has the space to live like that.

>>508784305 (OP)
this and yet the boomers and government goons keep thinking that they must achieve full employment and working is the only way to have a income

>>508786032
anything to not look like a zoomer is fine by me, these days.

>>508784305 (OP)
This is antisemitic. Delete this

>>508784305 (OP)
This is beyond retarded. Who would willingly work to support a whole useless NEET class of people if they were 85% of society?
At that point I would argue 15% of the society that does work and are productive would have to find a way to genocide the useless 85% or deny them rights of reproduction.

I work in a critical industry and I have a very in-demand skillset that requires years of studying, experience and training. I would immediately quit my job as a fuck you to you all.

>>508787096
I'm only saying what's true. If you think giving 85% of society pointless jobs to make everyones fee-fees better makes more sense than that's you.

I think that the 15% of people who work should get to live in luxury and the 85% should have statistically fair and comfortable lives

>>508787620
>statistically fair and comfortable lives
What's fair about you being useless yet reaping benefits of productive and capable people?

The 15% of productive ones would have to be treated like royalty.

All the privileges and benefits, first priority in health care, first priority in any type of service, some laws would not apply to us.
If there would be any type of situation where there is a shortage, any war, a trolley problem lets say, you useless fucks would need to be mowed down without question.

There would be nothing fair about it, no debating. If you are useless, you will be treated like you are disposable.

>>508784305 (OP)
Ok, but why should I pay for them? Those who don’t work, don’t eat

>>508788628
Also, we would have to cull useless men. Leave enough for the meatgrinder if war comes.
Otherwise, they don't need to pass on their useless genes. Females would be allowed to exist though, at a higher ration, just for genetic diversity. It would be eugenics time.

>>508784305 (OP).

ffs, I'm not into Val. Who told you that?

Been neet for 10 years, i still create value by creating content for 4chan and I do it for free.

>>508788971
And another thing a lot of unskilled jobs have been replaced by employing illegals under the table. I've applied for jobs but always rejected because I'm a citizen.

>>508789292
You are rejected because you have a 10 year hole in your resume and have 0 proof that you are employable and can be trusted to function in a work environment, you fucking retard...

>>508788628
>>508788845
You're just being edgy and retarded

>>508788692
YOU don't pay them. RESOURCES exist in abundance whether you like it or not

>>508790085
What an argument.

Lets say there is a situation, we need an organ transplant, who gets it? You, a NEET who produces nothing or me, someone who keeps the society and its comforts functioning?
Right now we both get in line and wait. I think that's unfair. Under your system, it would be no question, I get it, you don't. It would be obvious I get the priority.

If anything, these "useless jobs" are what allow people like you to exist, to hide and blend in with productive society. They are for YOUR benefit.
If you leeches were as blatant and in the open as you propose, eugenics would start taking place. What do we need useless male biomass for polluting this planet?

We would only need wombs and the productive ones get to reproduce.

>>508788628
>the slaves should be treated as royalty
hahahahahha

>>508791227
>If anything, these "useless jobs" are what allow people like you to exist, to hide and blend in with productive society. They are for YOUR benefit.
>If you leeches were as blatant and in the open as you propose, eugenics would start taking place. What do we need useless male biomass for polluting this planet?
This is a strange form of psychosis you have

>>508791266
In that situation there would be 3 social classes:

>overlords
>the productive ones
>you useless leeches

Right now we have in between ones that allow you to hide. OP is right, we don't need 85% of jobs, just like we don't need 85% of you people. What do we need India for, for example?

>>508784305 (OP)
Ya blut who gon automasterbate the robots???
>chessmate chud

Why do you think they’re culling the masses

>>508784305 (OP)
This LE HECKIN BRUTAL TURTH NVKE
Was something predicted by economists in the 1920s and 30s
The modern concept of "work" is something that has existed for far less than 1% of the time human beings have existed

>>508791413
1 man 100 women = 100 children.
100 men 1 woman = 1 or 2 children.

Why would we need to support a population of non-productive males? For what purpose?
We would just need females and productive males. Rest can be discarded.

>>508784305 (OP)
Not everyone needs to be existing. Even with the current level of automation the world could survive with probably less than 15% of the population. Farming is automated as fuck, automatic waterers, automatic pickers, even a whole farm can be run by one guy. It's on such a massive scale, this mindset of "everyone needs to live... OR ELSE" like... It's only getting more inefficient, jobs are only getting more fake and made up. Your kids are considering doing things like onlyfans for money, when does it end, when can people just admit that the right to live is basically just daycare for fat consumers and not some god sent way to make the world a better place. I've always said, every useless breather could get an heroed tomorrow and the world would literally just be a better place.

>>508791659
the sounds oddly familiar

>>508791659
Because genocide is not a political argument worth discussing

>>508788845
I swear the right wing has more contempt for the average male than even outright feminists do

>>508791465
The workers will not be the white people. Work is for shitskins.

>>508784305 (OP)
Not everyone lives with mommy dearest.

>>508791740
There are only going to be more people...

>>508791891
Not everyone has a good life...

>>508791659
Guns are legal and accessible in the US.

>>508791875
I have no contempt for an average, working male who works a blue collar job and creates, fixes or does something to keep the world going.

I have enormous amount of contempt for leeches living on gibs thinking its unfair that they don't feel comfortable enough with the gibs they do get and feel entitled to have the same rights and privileges in the society while contributing NOTHING.

>>508791877
That's very reductive.
Shitskins generally work the replaceable jobs, not critical top 15% ones that can't be replaced and are essential to existence of society.

>>508792100
Maybe if they got something in return for contributing, they would. As it stands, working doesn't get you shit. A home is getting further and further out of reach and even if you do get one, you'd be surrounded by niggers and turd worlders. A woman is also getting more and more out of reach and even if you do find one, the quality of modern women is horrifying and modern marriage is a death trap.
And it's funny you don't criticize any women, only men. Really makes you think.

>>508785970
The government cannot simulateneously pay for an intergalactic great white fleet (21+ Tttrillion goes poof, never comes back) AND compete with white labour for purchasing power.

>>508792100
there's really nothing to contribute
if you change a light bulb everyone else can only stand aside with their hands in their pockets
then they decide to go play foosball while you're getting angry at their existence

>>508784305 (OP)
none of this would be a problem if each person had their own land, farmed their own food and built their own houses, any work to earn money would be used to buy comforts, ideally at least, but the system is clusterfucked

>>508784305 (OP)
the only with this is a further divide in society between those who don't work and that diminishing group of labourers
it could only be sustainable if it were to reach a point were all labour is finally automated
because those working would not like to be employed on behalf of idle masses ad eternum

>>508792389
You do get something if you have a job that is not useless. I work in a very technical field and get paid top 5% salary for it.
I live in the city, have a nice apartment, a car and live with my gf and I'm not even 30 yet. The trick is to pick something worthwhile.

Fuck I know guys who work in heating, they fix like those gas heating systems, gas boilers or whatever you call them. For a days work they get paid couple hundred euros in eastern fucking europe.
Like what the fuck... I recently paid couple grand to to some construction workers to rebuild a fence at my parents home, none of them looked broke to me.

>>508792518
Retarded argument.
If you are capable, productive human being with a mind you will find a way to be useful. Instead of staying in an oversaturated field you will move to a less saturated one and contribute there. It's still needed.
Life and career paths are not linear, you can always find alternative path that can utilize your skills. But I guess this is inconceivable to people like you.

>>508792592
That doesn't sound even remotely feasible, do you even take reality into account or do you just form opinions on a whim?
>>508792634
The reality of this poses a number of issues and the fact is that the current system needs to exist to prevent mass psychosis, but I do think that many people work their whole lives for things that make no difference and I think that that's unfortunate

>>508793709
>That doesn't sound even remotely feasible, do you even take reality into account or do you just form opinions on a whim?
it doesn't because the way the world is today, but also because im making shit up, i don't take this board seriously
truth be told, the system is too complicated for me to have a opinion on what is right, wrong, what to fix and how to fix things
>The reality of this poses a number of issues and the fact is that the current system needs to exist to prevent mass psychosis
elaborate, im curious

>>508792389
Also women have innate value, like it or not, they can do one thing men can't and that's giving birth.
Women that would NEET and not give birth are just useless as males though.

A women that is willing to reproduce has more value to society than a NEET male. It's obvious.

>>508793986
What are you gon' do about it? Nuffan? Then stfu.

>>508794540
I'm just going to keep on living my life, I'm doing fine, while you neets can keep on complaining that world is not fair, that gibs are not enough and you don't feel comfortable enough.

>Waaaaaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaah gibs me basic universal income waaaaaaaaah I have a right to live and do nothing waaaaaaaah.
Bitch.

>>508793986
The women that shit out kids out of wedlock and get welfare to take care of them are valuable members of society?
Just admit you're a man-hating crypto-feminist

>>508794967
Well here is the funny thing, when compared to NEETs then yes, they have "some" value.
Their kids have a chance, if male, to become a productive member of society or, if female, become the womb of next generation.
Their outcomes are not looking to great, but there is a chance. For you there is no chance, you already lived your life and made your choices.

If this welfare queen case, worse thing that can happen is her son becomes a useless member of society just like you. And at that point he should be culled just like you.

>>508784393
Shouldn't you be monitoring your nigger son's semen levels Mike Johnson?

>>508785952
>As long as women are around your half-baked idea is doomed to fail.
Yeah, all that is well and good, but I still wanna have sex with them. Removing them alltogether sounds gay as fuck.

>>508794921
lol you're imagining thing
keep working normalfag

>>508795537
That's the plan. I'll keep working, keep making good money, keep traveling, keep acquiring assets and things, probably will make a kid or two in couple of years and live a full life without having to worry about finances while knowing that I have done my part to keep this world going as a man.

I just don't want to hear from you gibs monkeys that life is not cushy enough.

>>508795796
Imagination running wild. You will debtmaxx and work around the clock to afford it. NEETs have it easy even if we have to eventually work a seasonal job to afford it after we turn 40 or 50. Don't let me stand in your way! Keep it up!

>>508793346
It's needed by whom again? Poors will get less and less services and the few rich people are happy as long as they're secluded from the rest, they don't really need all that much stuff. They don't need an endless amount of excellent workers. With the middle layer of society getting thinner and thinner, there can only be a system of privileges put in place and it will be hereditary.

>>508795963
I took out a 10 years loan and made a large down payment of ~40k for my 120k place.
My monthly payment is like <20% of my salary. I don't even really think about it. I will be done with it when I'm 36.

That's still a whole lot of life to live debt free if I so chose. This whole debtmaxx thing is so exaggerated.
Debtmaxxers are retards working shitty replaceable jobs taking out 20% intrest car loans not normal functional people working essential jobs that require triple digit iq instead of double digit iq.

>>508795796
Ok, enjoy being another cog in the ZOG machine that gets coerced into taking more mRNA shots, sending your kids to die for jews, and gets cheated on and divorced raped

>>508784773
>eventually the top 1% of humanity will be the only people employed
i recon we will first see the death from AI of decision based jobs such as managers and similars rather than your avarage mc donald server

>>508785510
>Why should the state give you something for free?
The state exists for the sole benefit of the citizenry. Humans allow for leadership because it is in their interest. If leaders and nation hold no more benefit, the people will regard them as parasites and end it.

>>508796770
Well you are stuck in the machine as well, you just choose the shittiest possible position to be in and mope about it.

By the way, unemployed and uneducated are usually the first ones that get sent to war. Just look at Russia, they primarily send their rural churkas, not people from Moscow or Saint Petersburg.
By working in an essential field that requires highly trained, educated specialists, I actually reduce my chances of being sent to a jew war. I get to be the one who stays behind and breeds.

>>508796699
Good for you. I took out a €0k loan and I'm retired.

>>508797072
They send a draft officer, I send them a full bodybag. They may get me eventually, but they'll regret going after me.

>>508784305 (OP)
Please understand that David Graeber was killed for writing a book about this, you may want to delete this thread OP.

>>508797095
Living in what conditions? With your mom in the basement? No resources to do anything?

To live a comfortable/fulfilling life as aNEET you would either have to:

A. Receive an inheritance.
B. Have to have been a productive member of society at some point and create a lot of good and wealth which allowed you to retire.

If you inherted, you get to parasite and drain the generational wealth your ancestors created, your lineage probably dies with you, or at very least gets sent back to poverty and have to start again from square 1. Good for you.

>>508784305 (OP)
>when can people just admit that employment is basically just daycare for normies
What about retail workers? Are they needed? Or should they get replaced with AI robots that memorized the entire store and its layout.
Don't forget many stores have shitty inventory tracking that's often wrong. Imagine being told by a droid to go somewhere to get a wrench, only to figure out it's not there.

And then you try to call the manager, but you have to go through 5 automated call centers just to talk to 1 human.
So yes, AI can be used to automate all work. But the moment anything above the baseline is needed in the customer space, it falls apart.

>>508797517
Yes, I'm a chud basement dweller. I do very little cooking and cleaning and have someone around that cares for me. How is that a negative?
>inheritance
Have enough of it.
>retirement
You will live an average age of 75. You might even die before retirement. Pension age is irrelevant. I can die in peace after reaching the age of 60.
>parasite
Oh no! Anyway.
>generational wealth
I have basically no connection to my ancestors. Not my problem.
>lineage
Are you a noble? No? No lineage, then.
>start again from square 1
After living out my entire life on easy mode. Yeah, I don't mind that.

>>508785952
>The jobs are getting more fake and gay because women demand to be given fake jobs where they pretend to work for money, and they only want that because they think it will entitle them a man who makes even more than them.

Incorrect. The jobs are getting more fake because the central bank continues to print money.

Bitcoin or a disinflationary currency solves the woman problem.

>>508797815
It's sad that you don't want to ease the burden of those around you that care for you.

>You will live an average age of 75.
Maybe, probably not. Don't drink, don't smoke, no drugs, active and go to gym. Can actually afford high quality healthcare instead of socialist free government healthcare.

It's weird to me that men are happy being genetic dead ends. It goes against any human instinct. I would wager it's more sour grapes than anything.

>>508797815
he's probably poor and doesen't realize that after a certain amount of money inheritance will allow you to live a complete life without doing anything.
after like 4-5 houses you have enough income and (likely) capital to do whatever the fuck you want while growing your wealth

>>508798163
>It's sad that you don't want to ease the burden of those around you that care for you.
I'm not much of a burden, and it's their problem when they decided to make me. Don't be a parent if you don't have an apartment lined up for your son.
>It's weird to me that men are happy being genetic dead ends.
It's even weirder to me that you think your DNA matters one bit in the long run. You're a drop in the ocean.
>It goes against any human instinct.
Instinct and nature that encoded it doesn't always have your best interest in heart. Evolution only cared if you survived and reproduced, not if you enjoyed it.
>I would wager it's more sour grapes than anything.
But at the same time, you'll say that I should change and go for it, which would imply that I can reach for the grapes. No, the truth is much simpler and you've read it dozens of times already. I did a cost/benefit analysis and don't think it's all worth even a quarter of the effort that is required.

>>508798414
>It's even weirder to me that you think your DNA matters one bit in the long run. You're a drop in the ocean.
I don't think my DNA matters or is special, I just want FULL human experience, that's all. We live once, I want to experience it all, including parenthood.

If you are happy with the life you got, so be it. But don't expect the system to ever turn in your favor.
OP's fantasies are just fantasies. People like me will never willingly support disproportionately large populations of unproductives, we will let the world collapse first to give you a taste.

There would have to be complete, universal automation of everything run by AI's where nobody has to work. Then yeah. Maybe. But 80% leeching of 20%, never.

>>508799078
>I just want FULL human experience, that's all. We live once, I want to experience it all, including parenthood.
You won't even consider if it's a worthwhile experience? I won't dissuade you because the world needs you, but don't act like I'm irrational for avoiding this. Childless people (probably men in particular) are happier according to studies, and how wouldn't they be? I got other shit to do.
And the rest of what you wrote? That challenges OP, not me. I don't expect everyone to be a NEET. I'm not saying that OP is a fantasy, but I already have the reality I need. You normies indirectly make it possible and I have nothing against you. I only "defend" myself when I see you complaining about us. Otherwise, keep up the good work!

>>508792992
>I work in a very technical field and get paid top 5% salary for it.
Why are you too scared to tell us what you do?

>>508784305 (OP)
As a NEETGod I am currently further endeavoring to make the world a better place using AI and 3D printing to find solutions to the trash question by figuring out ways of sorting and analyzing particles of ash from my burn barrel for future sorting by nanomachines that will eventually be atomically rearranged by a more powerful and efficient technology than the one currently at use in IBM

>>508799345
I think childless men are happier, because most people are NPC's and can't afford children and that causes financial strain and stress.
For capable people who have their finances in order, children are not source of misery.

You seem sentient, you seem to have a mind, it blows me away that people like you deliberately give up and chose not to apply yourself when in reality the expectations from you in job market are extremely low.
I know complete idiots that work in my field, making same money I do, it's really not that hard. Doing nothing may be easier, but really dude... I work 2 weeks on 3 weeks off or 5on5off. This whole NEET shit will never sit well with me.

>>508800532
I hereby announce that we at NEET /HQ/ enlist the proposition of a NEET Nobel Prize

>>508800132
I'm a contractor, working throughout Europe as an Aircraft Maintenance Technician B1.1 and B1.2, both mechanic and avionic.
I keep/make sure airplanes are airworthy, perform inspections, repairs, sign off shit and certify, lead teams of mechanics.

>>508800657
I toil daily on various tasks regarding fitness, gamedev, webdev, education, music and art. I am constantly working, even when sleeping I am doing calculations.
NEETs are all introverts with IQs ranging from 160 to 210

>>508800942
Why not monetize it? If you are producing something. Makes no sense.

>>508800899
to get a job like that you have to be lucky to get a place in the appropriate school and then you have to grind away boring shit for many years and then pray that there is actually a job available for you. really easier to just neet if you don't have some kind of boomer pressure forcing you to perform

>>508785510
The state should give people stuff for free because in the current world the state has locked down all resources needed for survival. The reason why people "need" jobs is because you can't go out and independently hunt your dinner or set up a homestead on a decent piece of land. This is assuming we're talking about a just and rational state.

>>508800657
I didn't plan for things to be this way, it just sort of clicked as I was stuck in a college I didn't care for. I was always disgusted by the idea of civilian, urban jobs (my environment), and my parents were too controlling in things they shouldn't have been (my education starting from HS), so since then I've learned to live as a minimalist NEET. Sits alright with me because I've started reading the Bible early on and accepted the vanity of all things material. I don't need things to be happy, and if people (read: women) require it from me to love me, then I don't want them either.

>>508800899
>I'm a contractor, working throughout Europe as an Aircraft Maintenance Technician B1.1 and B1.2, both mechanic and avionic.
>I keep/make sure airplanes are airworthy, perform inspections, repairs, sign off shit and certify, lead teams of mechanics.
Bingo! We got you now! We'll be at your house in 7 minutes to make sure you are up to date on your mRNA boosters.

>>508801045
An artist's work is never finished.

>>508801152
good point. the state literally wont let you live independently from it. you can't just go cut some trees from the forest or collect some rocks to build a house, you need permission from the system for that and you need to pay taxes and shit. you're not expected to be truly independent

>>508800942
I don't think I'm over 130, and there's definitely more NEETs than there are people in the 160 to 210 IQ range.

>>508801045
way easier said than done. many try but are struggling badly because all that shit is hyper competitive

>>508785970
This reminds me of blood drives where hospitals tell you to donate blood for the benefit of the group, but whenever a member of the group goes to get that blood, the hospital charges for the blood they essentially got for free.

50 years ago, it wasn't this bad as the government actually provided many high quality free or cheap services using tax dollars. It's all just a grift now though. Corruption and incompetence everywhere.

>>508801416
NEETs on /pol/(minus the shills and brownoids) are all geniuses.
No exceptions

>>508801122
Bullshit.

I was a very mediocre student in highschool, got in budget for Aviation Maintenance, got my 4 year degree, during my 2nd year started working as an apprentice and started getting experience
A little over a year after I graduated I got my amt license. Been cruising ever since.

Sure passing fucking EASA modules was annoying, but nothing too bad. Nowadays you can take 2 years of classes sponsored by airlines and work for them afterwards and become an AMT, job guaranteed.
I make as much as good doctors without having to do 6 years of uni + 6 years of residency.

>>508789780
The fear of holes in resumes is such a kike concept.
>no you must be a continuous slave or else you don't get the opportunity to be a slave in the future

>>508801709
well this is a third world shithole so very special stuff like that will have maybe 10 positions where you might be competing with hundreds of others that had the same idea

>>508801966
That's why we have to obtain land, build off-grid earth ships and sell honey and goat soap to afford micro fusion reactors to power our 3D printers that use fusion energy and micro nano machines to destroy and store base materials into elements and rearrange them on an atomic level to make whatever we want.
Soon we'll be buying trash, not producing it.

>>508800657
>>508800942
This is basically me too. I had a "normal job" phase and hated every moment with my soul. Eventually started doing oddball stuff that paid shit but I could live with myself. I still look around for something more standard, but this world seems extremely hostile to high IQ independent thinkers. I'm friendly and pleasant butcI think they can somehow smell that you don't believe in most of the bullshit that makes up modern authority structures.

>>508789780
and the doctors that don't even speak the local language are no problem??

>>508802298
Even if they aren't foreign they will still give you slop advice to keep you sick
I use Dr. ChudGPT and I've never been better

>>508801173
Based ascetic. Honestly, being poor is quite the soul opener. I look at all the people with plenty of money, and they put so much value on comfort and material. In the best cases, they think the point of life is to raise good children to continue to feed the kike machine.

>>508802606
I'm not jealous of anyone showing off wealth with their cars and what not. All I feel is worried about their souls. Camel, meet the eye of the needle.

>>508802606
Being poor and then becoming rich is the best way to do things. Specially if it's slowly, like flipping houses over time.
Am building an indoor pool meself to keep in shape until extreme old age like Charlemagne

>>508802452
yeah point was more that it seems completely ok to put the patients life in danger like that, but suddenly its a dealbreaker if some dude doesn't have a impressive cv for some janitor job. the browns doing those jobs have absolutely no qualifications and can't even communicate with the customer because they only speak indian or muslim

>>508801392
Peasants were actually more free in historical monarchies. There were lands that were off limits, but peasants could basically just use the natural resources as they wished. And the aristocracy saw the welfare of the common people as a moral perogative, so the nobles generally just wanted peasants to be happy and productive. Could you imagine a nobleman running after a peasant for outstanding credit debt? But that's basically what the rich now do to the poor, using credit card companies and proxies.

>>508802698
>Camel, meet the eye of the needle.
Literally true. I don't know why people don't understand this. And yeah, I look at people living in excessive comfort, and while not evil, their souls seem closed of or preoccupied with this reality. Like children obsessed with a new shiny toy that they won't let go.

>>508802742
I'm still working on the poor part. But I do know if I had started rich, I would have been such a fucking a-hole.

>>508803038
Grim.
We just have to hold out for Dr. Bot and all jobs will be replaced by domestic androids fulfilling all tasks necessary to keep us and our domiciles healthy
Then the roboids will gun down the brownoids one by one until they're all gone

>>508803102
its crazy how much the world has changed. are we really happier with this "freedom"...

>>508784305 (OP)
This is objectively true but many poeple keep power trough artifical scarcity.
If everyone had house car food and energy free oligarchs would loose power drastically.

>>508785234
Wagies dont need it. They can be emos metalheads or some other bulshit they were as teenagers if they are that NPC.

>>508803878
a lot of todays work and activities are done to grow the economy, not because they are necessary. you'll always see the elite crying if the gdp drops a little despite it having absolutely no impact in the ordinary mans life

>>508803475
True. Being poor made me /diy/pilled
Can't wait to dig my pool out from the ground and make it a pond pool rather than some expensive concrete slop.
SOVL

>>508784305 (OP)
You seem confused. The fake and gay work isn't forced upon you as a punishment, it's painstakingly created and maintained to keep you alive. The alternative throughout history has been a war to get rid of you.

>>508796963
Thats how it should be but you have to be aware most states were made trough slavery. Only trough pure direct democracy could you vote the elite out. Any other system doesnt work.

>>508785510
Why not

>>508797072
>rural churkas
Thats because monthly pay in those areas is like 200 dollars max. And with army churka gets 3000.

>>508787096
>I work in a critical industry and I have a very in-demand skillset that requires years of studying, experience and training. I would immediately quit my job as a fuck you to you all.

I seriosly doubt that. Poeple who are this full of themslefs are usualy full of shit or work something anyone could do with propper papers or connenctions.

But actual inovators yes they get a villa and a lambo instead of average house and average car how is that bad.

>>508803415
>and while not evil
Assuming they got their wealth fairly (probably a minority of the rich), their self-indulgent behaviour is on par with evil. Signalling status to make other people feel less worthy for their shallow ego-boosts. "The last will be first, and the first will be last."

>>508791413
He is a glowie. He claims he is superior and would thrive in proposed 15% system yet he shills for current one "its better for you neets".

>>508784305 (OP)
hello shemmycuck

>>508784393
Posting with memeflag should be punishable by death. Being employeed and not being your own employer should be punishable by death. Posting on /pol/ should be punishable by death. Posting with a memeflag should be punishable by being fucked to death by a horse in Seatle

>>508805015
>Posting on /pol/ should be punishable by death.
Erm, anon?

>>508804129
Economy is a social construct a flawed aproximation of value looked only trough the lens of what can be taxed.

Oligarchs want india. A society of slaves where they can beat the shit out of their workers and order their wifes to fuck them for job or some other form of money.
If everyone has basic stuff you cant do this.

>>508785737
Efricient when you look at only one thing. Monoculture encourages specialized pests and other shit. Small farm system is way more robust.

>>508803878
Are you really in Guyana?

>>508786190
I identify as a jack of all trades who works when he thinks he should. Stop denying my identity.

>>508805248
That's true. But look at the USA, half the country is all farmland and half the county is un-arable desert. It makes sense to move stuff around, not to mention you can't grow tropical fruit in 99% of the USA

>>508801709
>for Aviation Maintenance, got my 4 year degree, during my 2nd year started working as an apprentice and started getting experience
A little over a year after I graduated I got my amt license. Been cruising ever since.

So a glorified mechanic with LOICENCE.
i knew you were a parasite. Bureaucrats always have huge amount of narcisism.
Your job exists due to govermemt bureaucracy and gatekeeping. You are not skilled. Poeple all around the world work on way more complex and dangerous machines with no loicence bulshit. You are easily replaceable and deffinetly not under top 15% with "unique skills".

>>508805469
Yes why would I need guyana VPN?

>>508803705
Consider this, too. Think of the traits associated with nobility. Quiet confidence, restraint, scholarly pursuits, moral rectitude. And think of the traits of modern CEOs and upper management...talkers, bullshitters, do whatever it takes to get projects and profits accomplished, ends justify means.

Our society now values and celebrates sociopathy, whereas before society celebrated what we now call autism.

>>508805608
Makes sense but in that case resources cant be monopolized. You cant have one coorporation own 90% farmland and export it all to China.
You could have that everyone owns a piece of the farmland and is entitled to some share of the harvest.

>>508804767
>Signalling status to make other people feel less worthy for their shallow ego-boosts.
This is 100% my father and brother. They both looked down on me because I never liked playing that game. I used to think I was inferior, but now that I'm older I know I was right. Status flexes are quite pathetic. Like monkeys wearing hats.

>>508803878
Inverse is also true. By increasing scarcity, it increases the power of oligarchy/money. If no one has enough to be happy, then everyone starts doing what the masters say in order to meet that minimum.

>>508805118
Btw, what's it like in Guyana?

>>508803102
Pesants were more free because early states could barely get to them. Transport was difficult. For example ther is a chinese saying never sell grain over 400 km. Because ox would eat most or your grain.
Not to mention pesants also had option of running towards the hills,marshes or just away to non state properties.

Most land pre 19 century was wild west lawless. Most poeple trough history lived outside the reach of the state.

>>508806748
Oil sector booming and only 600 000 poeple. Still mass poverty. Also its not cheap.

>>508806513
>They both looked down on me because I never liked playing that game.
LOL
Pray for them. They need it.

Make a living. Make living. Living is a given until dead. Make a lifestyle. Human mammals once roamed the earth and ate what they came across. Modern life is like a movie set the people, the food, the clothing none of it is real. Quiet on the set.

>>508784305 (OP)
I have checked out of the jewish prison bus

>quit wagie job
>sold everything I had in my name
>all property I own is in somebody else name
>stopped renewing IDs
>stopped paying taxes
>stopped paying car insurance/plates
>free groceries and free techslop (lots of it is hidden in the back nowadays but there are still plenty on the shelves)
Fridge is always packed, I have no bills or worries.

I am free.

>>508800657
>it blows me away that people like you deliberately give up and chose not to apply yourself
Stopped reading there. Did everything society "told me to do" and recieved none of the reward while having my soul sucked and my spine broken. More and more men are in my boat every day, not yours. Of course none of this would make sense to you, you're society's version of an automaton. You're a fucking bug. Feeding the faceless hive is the only thing that brings you accomplishment. You're part of the problem sitting here ranting that you're the solution. Fuck off.

>>508805872
>muh bureaucracy
It's there to keep retards out. You wouldn't want a double digit IQ mong with a spanner in his hands approach anywhere near a 100mil aircraft.
This whole process can be done by the time you are 23-25 years old if you are smart and efficient. Spend rest of your life in top 5% income bracket.

If I were easily replaceable, they wouldn't thirst for my cock this bad and pay me the type of money I get. We are a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG way away from AMTs being replaceable.
And even if we were, I have the mind to do something else and be productive in some other way.

>>508807032
>Oil booming. Still mass poverty. Also its not cheap.
Weird.

>>508786263
Fuck racism dude

>>508784305 (OP)
Wagies got uppity as fuck after COVID and decided to make it the customer's problem
Society is filled with the enemies of mankind.

>>508784305 (OP)
NOT EVERONE IS WORKING JEWS JUST EMPLYSLAOYAVE YOU FOR JEWISH SHEKEL MAGIC

>>508810764
Communism maybe Jewish but Germans did invent the stasis secret police and their diaspora continue it's ordinance today.
I think as a whole we need to recognize normies have an issue with blindly following authority whether it's right or wrong.
Precisely because in most cases it is wrong.

>>508810764
Communism may be Jewish but Germans did invent the stasis secret police and their diaspora continue it's ordinance today.
I think as a whole we need to recognize normies have an issue with blindly following authority whether it's right or wrong.
Precisely because in most cases it is wrong

>>508785952
bumchad here, no woman ever expected from me to work hard. some of them even give me money and pay for dates.

>>508798096
I want them both to peg me all night. Hnnnnngg

>>508811327
>peg
>night
Referencing my controlled dreams where a woman I've never seen or met before tried to do that to me and angrily tried to convince me I'm in fact homosexual
/pol/'s next evolution is broadening our focus beyond the evil deeds of kikes and brownoids.
We need to address the Normie Question

>>508784990
You have the reading comprehension of a middleschooler.

>>508809453
>It's there to keep retards out
Hahahaha get a load of this glowie.
Poeple who invented planes engines and all other stuff midwit subhumans like you cant do did it without you. Your only purpose is to keep artifical scarcity and make starting a buissness in your industry more difficult.
You dont design a plane you just replace damaged parts. A retard can do it.
You have a job due to goverment loicence. You are no bettter than goverment bureaucrat that sits on his ass all day and stamps 2 papers.


>And even if we were, I have the mind to do something else and be productive in some other way.
Yea find something else a retard can do but that requires loicence and kissing boomer asses for a couple of years.
You call this grift productive.
Be productive in something that isnt regulated like programming or regular mechanics.

>>508812249
He's been on here a long time, probably misses talking to his Western European Bros. Eastern Europe is grim and the world government is even more grim. I think his only crime is a distinct lack of self awareness

>>508812249
a retard cant repair an airplane, mongo.

>>508812249
>isn't regulated
False. My brother worked for IBM for a long time in cyber security and after he went independent and starting doing freelance gigs he started getting hacked repeatedly.
Programming is moving to AI-slop jeetcode
The elites aren't comprised of High IQ hackers, in fact that's who they fear most.

>>508812249

I won't go in depth, but for my thesis I did design part. Modified it based on requirements and workloads. Took some math and calculations, basic understanding of physics, designed it in CAD. So did everyone else who graduated aircraft engineering you fucking retard. Do you think designing is this alien shit only chosen ones can do?

I had a choice of going into engineering or AMT, I chose AMT because it pays more and I hate working in office environment.

>You call this grift productive.
Yes, keeping airplanes airworthy and safe while keeping retards out is productive. Worth of my work is observable.
All the "bureaucracy", "training", "procedures" is the reason why fatal aircraft incidents rapidly decreased.

>>508784305 (OP)
Dont worry guys I'll take one for the team and stay a NEET, you're welcome.

>>508812249
based nooticer

>>508784305 (OP)
if your paycheck isn't contingent on someone yelling at you, i will yell at you for free