Sergey Lavrov, a foreign affairs minister of Russian Federation, just said that NATO should have been disbanded shortly after dissolution of Soviet Union. Recent decision to rise defence spendings in the alliance is another evidence that Russia was right from the very beginning and NATO is essentially a russophobic creation at its very core.

>>508795941 (OP)
yes it's not a secret that NATO exists to oppose Russia.

reminder nato only expands in response to russia invading its neighbors

>>508795941 (OP)
>Z: polski
Z polski indeed

>>508796152
Russia uses different optics. It claims that it is forced to invade its neighbours to push the NATO away from its borders

>>508795941 (OP)
>You gave me insufferable provocation. When I came to rob you I found the door was locked

>>508795941 (OP)
>NATO should have been disbanded
Just have the US withdraw from it, then it becomes a EU "army".

>>508795941 (OP)
Russia can get fucked

>>508795941 (OP)
There has never really been a good stopping point for nato, since many of the former soviet territories have been in frozen conflicts since before the union collapsed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_territory_of_the_former_Soviet_Union

why russia is the only country who has problem with NATO? even china does not care

>>508795941 (OP)
hes right
NATO is an american grift for their military industrial complex

>>508795941 (OP)
so u b sayin we b "death 2 russia" n shieet?

I am not fan of Russia, i have nothing in common with them, and i dont care, but to be honest, i would be very scared, paranoid and wary if i was Russian leadership. Russia has immense natural resources, including the ones needed for Industry 4.0. Meanwhile we are in the middle of depopulation agenda fueled by lack of resources.

Maybe they are right about serious risk of being invaded

>>508795941 (OP)
They should quit being Mongols and start trying to be European and try it join nato against China.

Russians are for some reasons very concerned with NATO. Why? According to many on this board it will be disbanded soon anyways. And they have their CSTO to counter anything NATO does. I wish they would just mind their own business.

>>508797323
it goes both ways.
the west would be a lot less wary of russia if russia did not pick up where the soviet union left off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia#Russian_Federation_(1991–present)

>>508796752

Because they running out weak neighbours countries to attack and invade. Bye bye Armenia.

>>508797974
>>508796152
They only invaded georgia. transnistria was both a ukrainian and russian effort but somehow ukraine is the dindus here. NATO has invaded more countries than Russia. The US alone has invaded more too.

>>508797974
What can Russia objectively gain by invading Poland? Do they plan to occupy Lidl and Aldi stores? Do they want to steal technology from a country whose best university is located on 350th position after Kazakhstan? I dont even like Russians, most of them are primitives, but i really cant imagine any other scenario of them invading Poland than self-defence.

If Chinks used them as a proxy by pumping unlimited resources into them, it would change a lot, but so far it looks as if they desperately tried to avoid being cut off of Europe

>>508795941 (OP)
Why is Russia so vaginal all the time. NATO was on it's way out until they started a major war in Europe.

>>508798272
>i really cant imagine any other scenario of them invading Poland than self-defence
The spread of russkiy mir is not about self defence.

>>508798837
Ruski mir was already propagated here irreversibly by "neo-patriotic" and "anti-russian" political organisations such as PiS that flooded the country with endless streams of Russian-speakers.

>>508796152
Nah, NATO has invaded far more. Yes, "soft" Imperialism is still Imperialism.

>>508795941 (OP)
two new members and others asking to join proves it has a reason to exist. Even though it might be renamed to something else now that the US has been compromised

>>508795941 (OP)
Yes the whole world should just do what suits Russia. Fucking tedious cunts.

>>508798241
many in the west believe that soviet geopoliticial ambitions were inherited by russia, or at least putin and co, as evidenced by abkhazia, north ossetia, transnistria, and other conflicts backed by russia in some form.

>>508797323
>Meanwhile we are in the middle of depopulation agenda fueled by lack of resources.
You have it backwards.
Depopulation is fueled by
>increasing consumption
which in turn fuels
>concentration of capital in the hands of the (((1%))).

The simpler structure of your consumption the more you are likely to reproduce.

>>508800771
We dont talk about socio-cultural-economic factors now such as a drive to "make a career" for women who realize vast majority of male population is too poor to support a household. I dont talk about puberty blockers and sexual emancipation of "girls" with dicks either. I talk about a pretty much obvious mass-poisoning of entire nations with gene therapy products.

>>508795941 (OP)
>JUST. LET. US. INVADE. POLAND

no lol