And I'm tired of pretending I don't.

/pol/ thinks this is degenerate... I don't care. It moggs European modernists who thought you were evil if you had curved lines.

Now let's compare him to the "Great Aryan" Max Bill, the famous swiss aryan architect responsible for the ugly clumps of metal that get passed off as "Public art." What did this great Aryan say?
>He attacked Niemeyer's use of free-form as purely decorative (as opposed to Reidy's Pedregulho housing), his use of mural panels and the individualistic character of his architecture which "is in risk of falling in a dangerous anti-social academicism". He even belittled Niemeyer's V piloti, as purely aesthetic.

Some Brazilian. modernist buildings are dated but in general I love it. So much better than European modernist borefest.

>>508805685 (OP)
Is this the penthouse from Max Payne 3?

>>508805685 (OP)
you have lousy taste but it's genuine and I think you should go with it. who cares what I think

>>508805827
Nah it's an example of brazilian modernism interior design.

>>508805928
I'm not saying I ONLY love Brazilian modernism. But it did save me from my old view of "Anything after art deco is evil" MY favorite style is probably art nouveau or gothic but it depends on the time and place too. Gothic looks so out of place in Brazil but Brazilian modernism fits in so well.

>>508805998
Care to discuss what else that Brazilian period was known for?

>>508805685 (OP)
Brazilian modernism is hard shit while European modernism is diarrhea. Both still stink.

My college was built in this style the corridors make no sense, from the ouside it looks like a fucking shoebox with windows.. the only upside is that it was made in such a way that ventilation is very good as they make heavy use of this this thing called "cobogó" dunno how it's called in english. Other than that, the designs are highly impractical. Brazilian classic architecture is way better. There is nothing that makes a house cozier than an inner courtyard with a fountain and lots of greenery.

>>508805685 (OP)
Has some late 60s vibe, early 70s vibe.

>>508807917
What do you mean? Brasilia was build during the 4th republic not the military dictatorship. But yes a lot of culture did flourish under the dictatorship even if much of it was underground or in exile. Even Oscar Niemeyer was exiled. Brazilian dictatorship was much more brutalist and monumental. They just built giant rectangles even as they half appropriated some of Niemeyer's works and guys like Costa.

Pic related is administrative complex built in 1975 under the dictatorship. Compare it to the liveliness of Brazilian modernism.

>>508805685 (OP)
Looks pretty cool. To make it modern some titcows would be there too and booze and cocaine.

>>508808682
Yes I fucking love Brazilian courtyards. I love how many coffee shops have them and homes and businesses.

Also, don't sell yourself short. Not all of Brazilian modernism withstood the test of time but a lot of it is iconic and really beautiful. Imagine if you ended up like Europeans with no curves or aesthetic considerations.

>>508808781
Yeah I love mid-century modern but a lot of European mid-century modern is too bland and functional. The exception sort of being in Scandinavia and med countries. American mid-century modern is kino but Brazil is on another level although the dictatorship sort of hurt things for 20 years.

The military government built critical infrastructure like dams and roads, the commie republics only built blocks of concrete painted white that are eternal public money black holes.
My city has this ugly fucking museum named after Oscar with this big eye and the aesthetic simply doesn't work in real life, mostly because the weather makes everything look moldy and grimy.

>>508805685 (OP)

Those stairs would be heckin' illegal in Finland.

>>508805685 (OP)
modernism and brutalism are kike shit. they can't envision anything other than grey and boring shapes that require zero skill.

>>508809375
>I suffer in Curitiba
Kek no you fucking don't Curitiba is great

>>508810076
Except it's not kike shit this is a pleb take that anything that's not gothic architecture is bad. And you're also comparing the top architecture of older styles that survived and was preserved to run of the mill buildings built 70 years ago.

Every time there's a new movement in art and architecture people go "No you have to build the same way forever!!!!" now people can have different tastes and preferences but if you think not just building in 500 year old styles forever is "kike shit" you're retarded. A lot of mid-century anti-semites thought Art Nouveau and Art Deco were "kike shit" lol and then they built monumental slabs like communists. Pic related is 3rd reich arechitecture lol it looks like fucking shit.

This was built at hitler's request (it's ugly grey shit).

My point is architecture is more complicated than "Everything I hate is kikes" also brazilian modernism is not grey and boring. It's very colorful and way more interesting than European modernism (at least shit like Bauhaus or monumentalism or brutalism)

Compare this nazi monumental building

>>508809093
I live in the Serra Catarinense so it's too cold for the courtyard but we do have the bit open space around the house where we chill on hammocks. It's the best place in the house IMO. It's called alpendre in portuguese btw. It was -10 with the windchill today where I live and drinking coffee in the sun while watching the morning dew in my alpendre is legit one of the highlights of my day.
>>508809879
Since when it's the government's job to tell you what you can and can't do in your house?

>>508809375
I mentioned that building being ugly to a roastie and she lost her shit over it

>>508810672
I'm not really a traditionalist but that's a fucking bunker

>>508811067
Pic related. Her response makes me lol erry tiem

>>508810923
To this and tell me which is more interesting and less of a grey box

>>508810945
So comfy Santa Caterina is so amazing and beautiful. Truly one of the best little corners of the world.

Pic related is where I stayed when I was in Santa Caterina for a few weeks. But this was near Floripa so not quite as cold as you get

>>508811533
Comfy. You're welcome here any time anon :)

>>508811203
See:
>>508810826
>>508810923
Basically every surviving nazi building besides a view that were built in the alps and look like a disneyland bavaria ski resort building are grey ugly shit.

>>508811523
Kek the fact that you're there as a tourist makes this even more autistic. How can a tourist possibly utter the words "I suffer in Curitiba" you have lost it my friend

>>508805685 (OP)
I love brazilian bars

>>508805685 (OP)
I respect it keeps some level of ornamentation unlike most modern styles but is still it looks more closer to de stijl or bauhaus than art nouveau, it is modern style with some throwbacks. It took some clues from art nouveau but it is inferior in any way compared to it. Still can be worse.

>>508805685 (OP)
It's cool for sure.

>>508805685 (OP)
Kill yourself, nigger. It's commie slop for retarded niggercattle who likes Le Corbusier.

>>508811621
Thank you :) I really want to go back some day

>>508812300
Art Nouveau is my favorite ever style but aspects of Brazilian modernism just fit so well with the landscape like the courtyards anon mentioned. The courtyards you get in random buildings in Brazil are more comfy than European aristocratic cut garden courtyards by far

>>508805685 (OP)
>>508806159
>>508809093
how to you keep the critters out?

>>508810672
>Pic related is 3rd reich arechitecture lol it looks like fucking shit.
thats a fucking flak tower you retard. it was not made to look pretty but survive indiscriminate bombing.

>>508812323
Brazilian Modernism is nothing like Le Corbusier except that they were being built at the same time and just get lumped in together as "mid-century modern". Brazilian modernism is not brutalism and Le Corbusier looked down on Brazilian modernists for having to much ornamentation, symbolism, curves, etc.

>>508812542
Doors/windows/walls

>>508812112
It has almost a russian/balkan feel to it right? As someone who is Russian by blood this connection is very interesting.
>>508812300
> art nouveau
That's fucking peak. The only thing that can come close to it is our baroque buildings.
Check this, it's the royal library back from when we were still and empire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxmDuU7mzOw

>>508811747
That's you shoving words into my mouth. It's ok for a city. But there are way better cities in the south.

>>508805685 (OP)
Nordic modern produced better overall pieces and design, but Brazil had distinct moments as well. To say that only Brazilian modern has curves is retarded, however, you can't have Nordic design without them

>>508812686
>Doors/windows/walls
not an answer
I have all that, didnt stop any critters at all. and I live in a cold climate, not the jungle.

>>508812542
By having fruit trees around and patches of pristine forest. Nothing controls critters better than birds. If you have too many bugs is bc something is killing the birds in your area. We don't even have to put screens on the windows at least not where I live.

>>508812683
See:
>>508810826
>>508810923
and what I wrote here:
>>508811747

Thoughts? 3rd reich architecture was ugly as shit. Italian fascism had a gem or too but was mostly ugly.

Can you imagine a city of these like Hitler wanted if he could redesign Berlin. Berlin has some post war monstrosities to be sure but pic related is just so ugly and depressing and if it wasn't built under Hitler /pol/ would call it Jewish.

>>508812946
>3rd reich architecture was ugly as shit
never said it looks pretty. but a flak tower is a flak tower and not an architectural example.
Im more of a medieval nostalgia fag anyway.

>monkeyzil
One of the closest places to hell on earth that you can visit. Monkeyzilians are the most disgusting people you will ever encounter in your life. They smell bad and are extremely brown and violent.

>>508812749
Floripa (the island as a whole not just the main city) is the greatest city on earth in my opinion.

>>508812829
Don't leave the doors unlocked or the monkeys will come in and raid your fridge. Pic related from a video of a monkey that stole my eggs

>>508812916
Oh I see he was talking about insects that makes more sense lol

>>508812946
The fascist period is correlated with the expansion of heavy industry for weapons and massive quantities of armed concrete that they were using to make bunkers it's why the constructions back then have this industrial look that is bleak and barren. The Soviets also had the same problem but due to Russian caracteristics they were still able to build a few thigs that didn't look like absolute crap.

>>508812805
Nordic modernism is great too and fits in well with their countries. When I was talking about Brazilian modernisms curves I was more talking about how a lot of European modernists kept sperging out over how it had curves and said that was to bourgeois. Mostly in France, UK, Austria, Germany, Switzerland

>>508805685 (OP)
This actually looks really good but there should be less windows and it would be more comfy.
>>508805998
Ugly
>>508806159
Amazing
>>508808890
Horror, the architect should be shot
>>508809093
Beauty
>>508809784
10/10 if you remove that ugly woman
>>508810076
Based stairs
>>508810672
Architect who designed this was a subhuman
>>508810923
Dharavi tier architecture
>>508810945
Probably the best one

>>508808682
>There is nothing that makes a house cozier than an inner courtyard with a fountain and lots of greenery.
qft

>>508811747
>Basically every surviving nazi building besides a view that were built in the alps and look like a disneyland bavaria ski resort building are grey ugly shit.
yes I agree, although there's a certain charm with pre-war era european architecture and fashion looking incredibly grim, you can smell the rancid library dust and hear the squeaking as the syphilitic great war veteran cripples rolling around on their primordial skateboards begging for change

>>508813143
I have no problem with that medieval architecture is great. My main problem with /pol/ architecture autists is when they go
>We should only build in German medieval style
or
>Every building needs to look like a Greek temple

>>508813238
>t. jealous Poortuguese living in Canada as an Uber driver

>>508813301
Yeah this is the problem with a lot of architecture back then not just under fascism but communism and in the post war era in a lot of Europe. And yeah 7 sisters of Moscow are pretty good for the era and not as bleak and boring even if it's still industrial era monumentalism.

>>508813143
That ugly building behind it is ruining its charm.

>>508813599
This. That's all grey concrete but the courtyard still manages to be inviting. Now imagine there was even more greenery and some chairs and tables... maybe some vines hanging down from the roof panels

>hur dur, I love hedonism

>>508813143
To use a german concept the geist of your civilization lies precisely in that period, late medieval to early modern age. Same goes for my Russia. It's when our collective identities were built. It's how we understand ourselves.
>>508813423
Our archithecture is quite suitable for the Indian subcontinent. At least the tropical parts. It dampens street noise, filters pollution. If you ever get a chance to project your own house you should put some aspects of it. Besides, it's said since the early greeks that a man needs to have all the 4 elements in his house to have harmony.
Earth - wood/plants/leather/stone
Air - space/view
Fire - fireplace or even a barbecue area1
Water - water fountain/creek/pond
One should have all of these aspects in his house. It's also why apartments are so unnatural.

>>508813837
its Frankfurt after all.
but even the most pozzed cities still have old architecture to redeem them.

>>508809093
This looks like the local clinic I go to, minus the fancy deco

>>508813894
so true

>>508813928
You're going to a shrink aren't you anão? This is a textbook shrink clinic kek.

>>508813894
>UVH stop the hedonist modernism and return to tradition

>>508813918
Yeah I think you sort of hit the nail on the head in way I never realized about the four elements. Like that house near Floripa had a creek running behind, the fire pit, large glass dooors that even if you were inside during a storm it felt like you were outside experiencing it, and lots of greenery and lushness around.

The spaciness of Brazilian buildings can make up for so many other defects.

>>508812946
>>508805685 (OP)
I hate niggers and kikes more than I like pretty buildings. Hitler should have won. The world's just gonna keep getting worse the more white populations crater.

>>508805685 (OP)
Isn't that Scarface's house?

>>508813928
VGH... you can't suffer...

>>508813918
>>508814283
As an example here's a coffee shop in Sao Paulo in a sort of ugly building but I still felt comfortable in there and it felt pleasent because of how open it was, how I could see the greenery and it brought in the natural light. That alone can save a building. If that was a wall with two paneled windows it would just be an ugly impersonal building.

>>508814285
tfw

>>508812444
I respect it at least it when you look at brazilian modernism (furniture) it looks like humans can live there unlike most modern styles, where it looks like and office. What I don't like about it is how lazy can it be. If can make an home decoration of a whole house and looks right without being an interior designer it means it it nothing special. It is slop of 3-4 styles.

Soft furniture is Olivier Mourgue chairs or coaches, harder chairs are, basically de stijl with molded plywood. Tables are again mostly non metal frame with stained glass. The stained glass that is not mono color is what they take from art nouveau, the difference is is it is mostly abstract art and this is making it lazy and derivative. You see and room made in art nouveau and it has all kind of bullshit. It may be floral or more geometric and it has some elements that if you look in insulation you will think they will never work together but they do, because they are uniform style for that room or for that house. In brazilian modernism you can take half of the furniture and decoration from one room and move it to another because it is mostly the same. One kind of abstract smudge is changed with another, who cares, one lamp is changed with another, who cares they are all organic shape in early color. There are 3 tables in >>508805685 (OP) the 8 or 9 ornaments, aside from the 2 none of them match together, the smaller coffee table have different finish on the legs compare to the big one legs, same with the chairs. The chair near the staircase look way way older like something form 19 century, buy you don't notice it because nothing is matching in style. This room could be made in 1970 until today. Most other styles look like a snapshot of the time, this don't. It looks like you took many different things that can look good on their own and put them in one room. A good style is when the sum of its parts it more than each part individually and not the other way.

>>508814430
>>508814283
Yup. This has been written about since the time of the Pre-Socratics. Call it feng shui for white ppl kek.

>>508813918
It looks amazing but I reckon it would be costly.

>>508815366
Yeah you're right that it's a bit eclectic and not the most representative example I just used it because it was one of the first things to come up on Google but yeah it's maybe not the best example

>>508815901
Plenty of ways to offset that cost. For example, some people who are more into this kind of buildings they make their own bricks by mixing soil from the construction site with cement and pressing the brick shapes on site this lowers cost considerably. But yeah, building is always expensive.. I had to invest nearly 100k USD to build my house and here that is a lot of money since the conversion rate is nearly 6 to 1.

>>508816421
100k is managable for me and I may actually research a bit more of it and try to do some fusion when I have to renovate/rebuild my ancestral house.

>>508812112
Somehow, I understand this photo.

The main reason why Brazilian modernism can seem more natural and warmer and welcoming compared to American or European modernism is because Brazil was because Brazil was behind the US/EU in terms of industrial/technological development.
Modernist designers elsewhere were exploring new manufacturing techniques and materials like concrete, fiberglass, metal, etc. while in Brazil they tended to use more traditional materials and construction.
So for example a modernist designer somewhere else might design a chair that is distilled down to the essence of what it means to be a chair and nothing else, and molded out of a single piece of fiberglass in some factory somewhere. But in Brazil, they would still explore the same ideas like a chair stripped down to its core function without excess ornamentation, but the chair would be made out of wood and leather by a traditional chair making craftsman using mostly traditional techniques.

>>508817398
Lol, sure.