What if the aliens are Jewish

>>508823676 (OP)
if we find aliens thats enough to show religion is bullshit, also, just look at history everyone had their own gods

>>508823676 (OP)
i will kill the anti-christ

>>508823676 (OP)
>finally admit
huh?
Everyone knows it is bullshit. People only go along with it for social credit and because their NPC brains reset every 24 hours.

>THEY'RE HERE
>THEY'RE QUEER
>THEY'RE THE OPPOSITE OF A HAPPY MEAL

>>508823676 (OP)
No

What on earth makes you think "religion is bullshit" follows in any way, shape, or form from "aliens have their own gods"?

>>508823676 (OP)
Finding aliens doesn't disprove the existence of a higher power.

>>508825410
it sort of does given that all the religious texts say we were god's creation and mention nothing about aliens

>>508823676 (OP)
I already think it’s bullshit
Check m8

if aliens have gods i'll convert to their religion immediately. if they've made it across the universe to this shady planet then their god is obviously putting work in while none of ours are (except for israel's, but their conversion process is a bit too involved for my liking)

>>508823676 (OP)
I've already admitted Abrahamism is Soviet union mind control bullshit, yes Christkike.

https://files.catbox.moe/9e8kra.mp4

>>508823676 (OP)
Most of the gods I know are aliens.

>>508823676 (OP)
Some of them aliens have their heads in the clouds when they are from space. It is rather hard to listen to them.

>>508825234
Please explain this are they electrocuted?

>>508825553
Let us, for the sake of argument, assume the aliens are real and material, rather than fallen spiritual entities larping as aliens. Why would you assume they should be mentioned in Scripture? Would Scripture be wrong if it didn't mention penguins?

>>508825553
look there are entire college departments full of PhDs with lots on comprehensives explanations as to how are you a fucking retard

but if I were you I would just kill myself, all that thinking is very exhausting, dont think you can handle it

>>508825847
>is very exhausting

>>508825915
I would probably say it is similar to his convergence of his wave function in the bathtub.

>>508823676 (OP)
Imagine if that story is true and Jesus comes and visits them every weekend because they gave him chocolate instead on nailing to the cross

>>508825553
I like to think that maybe there is a God and he tolerates all religions. I don't think there is such thing as heaven or hell but I do believe we have souls that likely live on a different plane of existence when we die. I think calling yourself an atheist is an ultimate midwit take. In a world where everything comes from something you then somehow believe that everything came from nothing.

>>508826058
I mean that problem cant be solved unless you assume that the ultimate chaos either prefers nothing or everything. And when everything is permittable like it would be a superceeding principle then that would make sense.

>>508825610
Bad idea. Things most non pedants would label as demons are larping as space aliens as we speak. They typically preach badly disguised warmed-over Gnosticism. I guess they didn't feel a need to be creative, as it worked millennia ago.

>>508823676 (OP)
Aliens are demons, stupid

>>508825234
>electric pussy
Clearly calculating whether it is worth it to try.

>>508825808
because penguins arent conscious in the same way humans are. we were suppozsed to be gods most intelligent species, but if aliens were to visit us, it would prove that there were more intelligent superior beings to us

>>508825847
example of the explanations you retarded memeflag

>>508823676 (OP)
Aliens live rent-free in your goybrain.

>>508826058
well i am glad you came up with your own made up fucking take on religion, unfortunately there aren't any actual religious texts that agree with you, but yeah, you've definitely cracked the code all by yourself

>>508826199
I agree, but most people claiming to be atheism do it because they think it will absolve them of guilt and need to follow any moral code.

>>508826299
>we were suppozsed to be gods most intelligent species
Where does the Bible claim we are God's most intelligent species? I'm fairly certain many angels and similar beings are much more intelligent than we are.

>>508826502
I would do that if i could.

>>508826502
Religious texts are interpretations, parables, and stories. I don't think everything is meant to be taken literally. When you say religion is bullshit, what do you mean? There is no god? The different rules of each religion don't mean anything?

>>508826566
>angels and similar beings
when was the last time you saw an angel?

>>508825553
Why would religious texts mention aliens?

>>508826753
all this depends on definitions, when you say you believe in a god but not heaven or hell, if that god you believe in is all powerful and conscious, then i think your idea of religion is highly unlikely.
When you say religion is bullshit, what do you mean?
There is no all knowing all powerful god who created us and actively seeks our worship

>>508826927
Do you believe the universe was created?

>>508826762
>>508826762
Today in my dreams i played me a really nice song, two of them and told me to drink

>>508826904
because the bible mentioned angels and all sorts of other creatures, the idea that there would be other conscious, intelligent creatures, that god made and then the bible would not mention them seems highly unlikely

>>508826058
Plebeians have no afterlife. Only the monarch goes to heaven because he's from heaven.

>>508826985
kind of depends what you mean by "created"
but to be honest i have no idea how the universe came into existence, i believe in the big bang but i dont know what was before that (however this is a kind of complicated question because if time started when the big bang happened then technically nothing came before the big bang)

>>508823676 (OP)
no because aliens are demons/fallen angels

>>508823676 (OP)
If aliens exist, they're still part of Creation and therefore have the same Creator, idiot. How can people be this dumb?

>>508826762
I'm not going to dox myself by telling you when, if ever, I saw an angel.
Scripture mentions angels. That is enough. Scripture therefore mentions beings more intelligent than we are. According to Scripture, we are therefore not "suppozsed to be gods most intelligent species"

>>508823676 (OP)
>1pbtid

I will keep being a nazi as long as I see these threads

You are to directly blame for nazism and racism op

>>508823676 (OP)
Who loves ya, spaceman simp?
>>>/x/

>>508827046
I don't think angels are meant to be taken a something literal. How the fuck would people know to write about extraterrestrials 2000+ years ago? Most people wouldn't even have seen someone of a different race.

>>508823676 (OP)
Ironically, the only alien race we've had contract with has the same creation story as we do and also has had the story of Christ play out in their past. They are the Xeriti of Gliese 581G although they have much closer outposts to us on Proxima Centauri B. They look a lot like us with minor skeletal differences and slightly different iris colors and their society is comprised of mostly women (80/20). I had sex with one while I was working in a UUV program, ama.

>>508827219
The earth is flat, read the Bible. The order of Creation in Genesis proves globetards wrong. Earth came before the sun. That's what the Bible teaches. Heliocentrism says sun came before the earth. Any Christian who thinks the earth is a globe is under a delusion.

>>508827234
we are supposed to be god's most intelligent species on earth though, angels are in heaven, also if the bible mentioned angels, why didn't it also mention the aliens that are living in the same dimension as us?

>>508827330
well because the whole point is that the bible is magical and a lot of what was written came from jesus you are basically proving my point, the bible was obviously written by normal people and god had nothing to do with it

>>508827182
Ok, so you believe in the idea that was once nothing even though it's not something you can conceive, well I can't anyway. But on the other side of it, some people believe it must have been created despite that also being something impossible to conceive. I guess what I'm saying is, choosing to believe either is actually quite similar.

>>508823676 (OP)
aliens having gods and religions does don mean gods and religions is bullshit. It means that even space faring civilizations see utility in gods and religions or that gods and religions are a prerequisite to becoming a space faring civilization.

>>508823676 (OP)
Everyone has their own interpretation of God. All names and religions are pointers.
Investigate what they are pointing at, and nevermind the politics.

>>508827503
please tell me this is a joke

>>508826299
So you're just making up bullshit, claiming it's biblical doctrine and then using that to disprove Christianity? Gee, where have I heard that before???

>>508827620
yes i agree, but the universe wasn't necessarily created by a conscious god. also, the universe may have just existed forever, nothing cannot really exist so there may never have just been "nothing" but instead there was always "something"

>>508823676 (OP)
Aliens don’t have their own gods. They only know there is one true God

>>508827707
what in the fucks name are you on about, we are obviously supposed to be god's most intelligent species on earth

>>508827505
the 'aliens' ARE the angels. If you've ever seen a UFO you'd know they give off a demonic aura/presence, the same you get during sleep paralysis which is also demonic attack. A presence of pure dread. Crying out to Jesus will end a sleep paralysis episode, it will also force aliens to leave.

>>508827908
Obivously you're not god's chosen mensch.

>>508827618
Perhaps Jesus was the son of god perhaps he wasn't. His teachings are still followed by over a billion people to this day. I don't think many people think the bible is magical. It's a collection of books that have over thousands of years been translated and interpreted differently. Some people choose to take it literally others not. I just don't think it's as simple as saying religion is bullshit. People always want to see proof, miracles etc. but would a miracle really change your mind?

>>508828118
i wish i was as retarded as you are, life must be so simpl ands care free being that fucking stupid

>>508827661
You have zero evidence of curvature, zero evidence of motion, and zero evidence that a vacuum can exist adjacent to a pressurized atmos without a physical barrier.

>>508827505
>we are supposed to be god's most intelligent species on earth though, angels are in heaven
There are angels here on earth.
>Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. (Hebrews 13:2 ESV)
Depending on the theory for what God hasn't revealed and made clear in Scripture, and the definition of words like angel and demon, angels are not the only creatures more intelligent than we who dwell here.
>why didn't it also mention the aliens that are living in the same dimension as us?
Why would it? Penguins live in the same dimension as us. Do you perhaps assume that the Image of God is intelligence?
Personally I'm extremely skeptical to the idea of material aliens, but the Bible doesn't rule it out at all.

>>508823676 (OP)
>If we find aliens and they have their own gods will you finally admit religion is bullshit?
You won't admit that spaceballs are bullshit.

>>508828167
>but would a miracle really change your mind?
if god came down fro the sky, performed miracles, spoke to me and said the bible was true then i would change my mind, if god is all knowing then he knows what he needs to show me to change my mind

>>508827790
So we agree that either side you take requires us to accept/believe something contrary to anything we've ever seen in our lives. You choose to believe there was nothing and then something, I choose to believe that there is some higher power beyond our comprehension. Though perhaps we're both wrong.

>>508828284
motherfucker have you ever seen a picture of earth you can literally see the curvature from concorde or spy planes that fly very high

>>508823676 (OP)
Aliens are demons

>>508827661
What?
You don't have a Bible written in Potato?
It's in the FIRST CHAPTER!

>>508828318
>there are angels on earth
would you mind sending a picture of these angels?

>>508828397
God is all knowing and knows your heart is so hardened against Him you wouldn't change your mind even then. You need to humble yourself and change your heart first. Then seek and He will reveal Himself.

>>508823676 (OP)
That depends, we would have a surface level understanding and we would have to do some actual homework, which is toxic to 4chan so you get very basic responses lacking an understanding approach.

>>508828465
>satellite

>>508828402
it really depends on what you mean by higher power, if the higher power is NOT conscious then i could believe that

>>508823676 (OP)
Already know a god, so no.

>>508828397
Fair enough. However, that's not how faith works. We're not meant to know more than we do.

>>508827408
Crazy that no one is curious what spacecatholic pussy is like.

>>508828515
you total retard, the bible also said the earth was made in six days, how can you be so stupid to actually believe that shit instead of believing modern day science

>>508828397
>and said the bible
Here:
https://youtu.be/1QdUhNY6DnY

Put up or shut up you lying Mic!

>>508828579
no, he knows exactly what will change my mind, god is not very all powerful if he does not have the ability to change my mind

>>508828636
The question of God's conscience is interesting. To me, the concept of conscience doesn't even apply to God.

>>508828691
>instead of believing modern day science

>>508828737
oh yeah the bible, which is a fucking book with no pictures written two thousand years ago said miracles happened, yeah that sounds like solid evidence

>>508828816
well its a good thing all of science does not come form cartoons you retarded fuck

>>508828228
To much alchohol, eh drunky?

>>508828852
>>508828914
>yeah that sounds like solid evidence

Well, you certainly sound Irish.

>>508828770
If you really want to believe in God then he will give you a sign. If you pray for him and you truly mean it, he will reach out. I promise.

>>508823676 (OP)
People in the UFO community get more religious the closer they get to the phenomenon for a reason.

>>508828852
So you are upset that the bible isn't a picture book?

>>508828954
you ever heard of gravity?

>>508823765
>Alien vs Creditor

>>508829050
because some fucker tried to claim the bible was a reliable source for the proof that miracles happened

>>508828556
Assuming I have such a picture: Yes, I would mind sending you a picture.
Why do you assume an angel deciding to reveal himself to a human necessarily makes him show up on a camera? On the other hand, if an angel wanders around disguised as a human, it would probably be a good idea for him to show up on camera. If he didn't, he would be easy to detect as a non human.

>>508829121
>the bible was a reliable source for the proof that miracles happened
Jews seethe about it what more do you need?

>>508825610
>if aliens have gods i'll convert to their religion immediately.
Plot twist: Jesus is their God

>>508828954
Biggest fucktard on the board award

>>508828767
Pride being enmity with God is a necessary byproduct of Free Will. You will not find God while proud. How could you, when you already put yourself in the throne of God? God will not force you to have a relationship with Him if you wish to remain separated from Him..though careful getting what you wish for. If you truly do want to know God, then pray, admit you are a sinner, and ask Him to lead you toward revelation of the Truth.

>>508823676 (OP)
i will go to alien heaven

An estimated 10.000 distinct religions existed through history, 4.300 distinct religions still exist today. All are convinced their god is real but yours is not. What is more plausible? 4.299 religions are nonsense and 1 just happens to be right. Or its all nonsense.

>>508827330
>Most people wouldn't even have seen someone of a different race.
Wrong. The Bible mentions a guy called Niger.

>>508829121
The four gospels at the start of the New Testament corroborate a lot with one another. I hope you find some peace brother and hopefully, you get some answers to your cynicism.

>>508829362
Mistranslation from the original aramaic. His name was Nigel.

>>508827503
How does the creation order rule out globe earth, or glome earth, for that matter?

>>508829352
If only 1 was in fact right those thousands of fake religions would still exist. It's like saying 2+2=4 can not be right because there is an infinite number of wrong answers, and what's more likely, you magically just happened to get the correct answer or 4 is wrong as well.

>>508829091
kek

>>508823676 (OP)
If anything higher beings religion would probably just be ancestors veneration

>>508829528
Because the "modern science" states that earth rotates about the sun (heliocentrism), and that the sun is older than the earth (remaining solar nebula from sun condensed into planets). If you don't believe these to be true, for example you believe in some sort of geocentric globe earth, you would be rejecting The Science anyway and would be in the same category flat earthers are.

>>508828118
Have you seen Dr. Michael S. Heiser's Aliens and Demons: Evidence of an Unseen Realm? It is free on Youtube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThmF7OErkxY

>>508829550
10.000 distinct religions is evidence humans are easily tricked into believing something outrageous. Thinking all the other religions are silly but my guy definitely walked on water and came back from the dead is ... yeah.

>>508823676 (OP)
We have already made contact with aliens. They are terrified of us.
There are actually millions of intelligent species in the universe. Only a few have anything resembling religious rituals, and humans are the only species in the entire universe to known to pray and have verifiable spiritual/religious experiences.
All of those millions of other intelligent species eventually manage to use science and logic and reason to come to the conclusion that Something outside of our reality must have created it. But they all get stuck there. They have no idea about what that Something is or was, or how or why it created everything. It is considered the Great Unanswered Question. Species exponentially more intelligent than humans could never find answers, and eventually it was taken as a basic truth that it was simply unanswerable.
So you can imagine how disconcerting and confusing it was for them when they started making contact with a relatively primitive intelligent species, and not only did we seem to have answers to the Great Unanswered Question, we are able to directly communicate with Him. And that was before we even told them about Jesus.
Currently, the intelligent species are divided into three factions.
Some of them think we are too dangerous or too insane or that there is just something so fundamentally wrong with us that we need to be completely destroyed.
Another faction is completely in awe of humans, and see us as supernatural beings, something like angels. They are fervently studying all of the world's religions trying to make sense of everything. Some of them are even "converting" and starting to mimic human religious rituals and practices.
But the largest group really just has no idea what is going on with us, and have basically quarantined us while they try to figure it out.

>>508828377
>Earth Created Before the Sun
Why couldn't a globe earth, or a glome earth for that matter, be created before the sun?
>Isaiah 40:22
The term translated as circle means "round". A circle is round. A globe is round. A glome is round. Translators pick the English term circle, because they think it refers to what you see from the top of a mountain, rather than to the shape of the earth.
>Earth is fixed and immovable
Why can't a globe be fixed and immovable? If you assume that general relativity isn't complete bullshit geostationary satellites can be explained by frame-dragging from the universe orbiting the earth at a faster than light speed each day.

>>508823676 (OP)
How would more religions invalidate religion itself?

>>508831100
Because kikes forced their deathcult on us at swordpoint.

>>508828397
>if god came down fro the sky, performed miracles, spoke to me and said the bible was true then i would change my mind,
He did exactly that 2000 years ago.
>if god is all knowing then he knows what he needs to show me to change my mind
God could show you undeniable proof of his existence, or force you to believe in him which is effectively the same thing. But that isn't what all of this is about. God isn't some narcissist who simply wants to be worshipped by as many people as possible.
You were made by him out of dirt but in his image, and blessed with free will and an intelligent mind. These gifts make it possible for you to sin and defy God, as happened in the very first story in the Bible about humans. But they also make it possible for you to choose salvation.
God has already given you EVERYTHING you actually need.

>>508830038
>you believe in some sort of geocentric globe earth
You are awesome at reading people.

>>508823676 (OP)
I would ask the aliens through sheer curiosity who the suckers are. I mean AI can tell you that you sit in a fucking echo chamber but a real alien (that i would somewhat force to do what i want) would be something different.

>>508828397
I was like you. God did give me a supernatural experience. I was probably too stubborn to have believed without it.
The fact that He doesn't do the same for everyone in our situation, points me towards belief in predestination, be it double (Augustine/Calvinism) or single (Thomas Aquinas/Lutheranism).

>>508828767
God could suddenly appear before you right now and say "Yes, it's all real, those Anons are telling you the truth."
But you would just say it must have been a hallucination or project blue beans or some other kind of trickery, because you have already chosen to reject God.
The Gospels are full of stories of Jesus going around performing amazing miracles, and it blowing people's minds and them saying things like "how is this possible? only someone with the direct power and authority of God could do or say such a thing?" and Jesus basically shrugs his shoulders and says well yeah, but still the people refuse to believe. You would be one of those people because you have already chosen not to believe.

>>508823676 (OP)
The decadent and feeble gods of the xenos are as nothing compared to the light of the Emperor

>>508828767
My theory is that unless God changes your mind first, a miracle wouldn't convince you. Without God's grace, you would, in the words of Romans 1:18, "suppress the truth".

>>508829482
kek

>>508830359
But I also think the materialistic world views are silly, including what ever you believe.

>>508830038
>you would be rejecting The Science anyway and would be in the same category flat earthers are.
Sorry for the double post, but does that mean I will get invited to the flat earther parties?

>>508823676 (OP)
Already addressed and entirely dismissed. Space isn’t real you newfag. None of it is real. Every single thing you’ve seen about aliens is fake.

>>508823676 (OP)
What if they confirm religion and say the white devil is the devil?

>>508825553
They’re fallen angels. It’s known. Lurk more

What if there's one universal God and "aliens" worship that one, too?

https://urantiapedia.org/en/home

>>508824038
anti-christ just means satanist, which just means amalek, which just means edomite, which just means nazi

its anything that resists the jewish plan to conquer the world and enslave everyone in it. and to better facilitate an exchange of language between the two groups. you are jews. transjews are real jews. atleast to us nazis/anti-christs/amaleks/edomites/satanists/pagans whatever you want to call us. have problems with that? take it up with the jews.

no competent creators would ever allow jews to breach containment. thats why the spiritual wall exists. theyre trying to fix these assholes and theyre determined to not be fixed, so long as thats true, their wont be aliens, unless maybe to wipe them out, as this cycle has essentially failed in every metric.

>>508823676 (OP)
Will show them my superior faith and then tell them they aren't allowed to follow it.

>>508823676 (OP)
You are already following an alien religion. What difference does it make if it is from the Middle East or another planet. You will convert like your ancestors did cause you are a weak man with weak faith.

>>508823676 (OP)
If the aliens had gods, they would have religion and it wouldn't be ... ah fuck I fell for the 1pbtid bullshit again.

Ayyys dont "believe" that there is a God.

They know it.

>>508823676 (OP)
this reminds me. we should crucify the secularists.