>there are "people" on this board who believe you suddenly magically stop existing after you die
>you just like disappear bro!

I'm an atheist and I would never pretend to have any clue what happens to people after they die.

>>508828322
God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob please help this man!

>>508827394 (OP)
do you think a soul is capable of being self-conscious? of seeing, thinking? without a body? if yes, how? and why can these be regulated by and dependent on the body then? what keeps me me outside of my body?

>>508828322
If you have no clue you're a Agnostic

>>508827394 (OP)
The ego illusion is a product of the organism. Perception happens within the orga ism and depends on it. Ergo on e the organism ceises to function perception itself ends.
Why are NPCs too stupid for that?
Do you hapoen to remember a time where (((you))) existed before the corresponding organism came to be? No? Weird huh?

>>508831129
Wrong. If you do not affirmatively answer "yes" to the question "do you believe in gods?" that means you do NOT believe in gods, and that makes you an atheist by definition.

>>508827394 (OP)
Those people are called pagans and they are also closeted homosexuals and get very mad when you say this because it hits too close to home for them.

>>508827394 (OP)
There is some evidence for that somewhat. Try and imagine you 1 year before your birth. Its impossible for a reason bro.

>>508832731
wrong
you need to answer categorically "no", not anything other than yes, to be an atheist
do you think someone who answers "maybe" is an atheist?

>>508832894
imagining is a power of the brain not the soul

>>508827394 (OP)
I mean why and for what purpose would you live on?
I suppose it’s possible but highly unlikely
Every thing has a beginning and an end why would humans not be the same

>>508827394 (OP)
you do stop existing though
"you" are not just your soul
you are your body, your mind, and your soul
in fact while you are alive the soul serves you
but when you die your experience will serve your soul

>>508827394 (OP)
What happens when you go to sleep? Do you remember when you sleep? No, it's just like that time doesn't exist. That's what it feels like to be dead.

>>508827394 (OP)
Michael Jordan is not zesty

>>508832731
Buddhists dont believe in god(s) are they atheist?ak20m

>>508827394 (OP)
most likely nothing happens after you die, and thats ok. as long as you didnt waste your life away

>>508833553
nah death feels different, its abnormal, and we have faced many forms of little death before.

We can observe what happens. Your brain shuts down, your body shuts down, and eventually you decompose. There's unfortunately no good reason to suspect that there's an afterlife.

>>508833553
To die, to sleep no more; and by a sleep, to say we end the heart-ache, and the thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to

'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep

To sleep, perchance to dream; aye, there's the rub, for in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause. There's the respect that makes calamity of so long life: for who would bear the whips and scorns of Time,
the oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely, the pangs of despised Love, the law’s delay, the insolence of office, and the spurns that patient merit of the unworthy takes, when he himself might his quietus make with a bare bodkin?

Who would fardels bear, to grunt and sweat under a weary life, but that the dread of something after death, the undiscovered country, from whose bourn
no traveller returns, puzzles the will,
and makes us rather bear those ills we have, than fly to others that we know not of?


Thus conscience does make cowards of us all, and thus the native hue of resolution is sicklied over with the pale cast of thought, and enterprises of great pitch and moment, with this regard their currents turn awry and lose the name of action.

>>508827394 (OP)
That’s true for white european roaches. Their existence is only in this realm, and then they vanish. Only indigenous people who have souls (not white roaches) release their body and merge with the greater cosmos.

>>508831056
>>508834481

>he doesn't realize the body is obviously just an interface through which the soul experiences and interacts with the physical dimension

>>508831393
>Do you hapoen to remember a time where (((you))) existed before the corresponding organism came to be? No? Weird huh?
actually yes... there are millions of people who experienced clear consciousness while theirs brains where clinically dead. There are millions of peoples who have past-life memories. There are millions upon millions of people with OBE's describing journey's to "some place else".

>>508832894
If the state before you was born, is similar to the state after you were born, aka "stateless"... then you will certainly exist again. Logic dictates it

If death is eternal, and you were already dead, then you can not be alive right now. For death would NOT be eternal, and at some point you WILL be again. Time becomes something totally irrelevent.

>>508835116

> Get to heaven
> Forced to apologize for every tranny that was abused for being autistic until the point they cut their dick off

Life after death is probably like life before birth, nothing
It's not blackness or anything, it's literally nothing, you won't know you're dead just like you didn't know you weren't alive before you were born

>>508829876
disgusting jew worshipper

>>508836309
Possible, but literally inconceivable

>>508835527
>he didn't watch the episode about people waking up in the middle of an Abracadabra show and floating around in the air for days
That's literally happened many many times and was even brought up by Stephen Hawking.

>>508827394 (OP)
I’m not a believer of religion, or any deity, but even I know that this life we live isn’t the end. It is the end of “you” as a human being, but your components continue on

>>508836698
explain this belief of yours that our components continue on.

>>508836620
I imagine it's like going under anesthesia, if you've ever done that.
You go under and are completely gone for what seems like a moment before you wake up again but to everyone else you were out for hours while they performed an operation.
It's like that but you never wake up so yeah you're just gone, no thinking no sense of time, just absolute nothingness

>>508836846
Nothing is created or destroyed. Everything recycles

>>508827394 (OP)
the same nothingness you dont remember before you were born is same nothingness you wont remeber after you die
if you were indeed human you are in perpetual consciousness.

>>508836850
How can something come from nothing?

>>508827394 (OP)

>>508838045
We don't know so don't pretend a jew book knows all the answers. Damn all Abrahamic bullshit

>>508831393
>The ego illusion
>you don't exist, you just imagine you do!
The absolute state.

>>508835116
what if spiritual that requires physical vanishes along with the physical ?

I do not deny the miracle of life, but I don't think it's immortal either, that phenomenon (even if not physical) may also have an expiration date

you are just scared of not being around, it's normal, but denying that it's a likely possibility is delusional

>>508838045
there was never a "nothingness", but there was a point when your consciousness didn't exist, and there will be a point when it will seize to exist

that's what romans wrote on tombstones

>>508838894
The Buddha said the same thing. Dependent arising phenomena. That's why the logical conclusion of Buddhism is that the fundamental nature of "reality" is actually nothingness.

>>508831129
There is no such thing as an "Agnostic", Atheism/Theism is binary. You either believe in something or you don't. Also, belief in an afterlife does not imply belief in a sky wizard.

>>508838045
Nothing woke up, but to define itself it had to create everything.

>>508831393
Just because you don't remember something does not mean you did not experience it. Memory loss through brain damage or drugs are a thing, so we have many examples of people who provably experienced something which they now have forgotten.

>>508839056
you may simply not have a strong opinion

you were in a coma since 2006 ?

>>508836910
This is why re-incarnation is unironically probably the most correct. If there was indefinite time before & indefinite time after for all eternity then a sudden spike in existence it breaks the continuity and seems quite likely it would break again.

>>508827394 (OP)
"One of the moral superiorities of atheism is that we don't particularly want it to be true that we shall be annihilated when we die; that there's nothing to hope for from the heavens; that the heavens are empty. We don't necessarily love that idea, but we're willing to face it since the evidence to the contrary appears to be trivial or non-existent. We don't indulge in wish-thinking, and we don't assert as true what we've just been asked to prove." (Christopher Hitchens)

>>508827394 (OP)
But how do you know that there's an afterlife? It could be afterlife. It could be nothingness, like being asleep and not dreaming. No one really knows because no one came back from it.

>>508836850
I think you will wake up. You see, just like no time passes for you under anesthesia. The same is true for death. When you die, uncountable universes will spring up and return to nothing. Unimaginable amounts of time will flash past in an instant until something which is recognizably you exists again.

>>508839630
Far from being incompatible with a realistic awareness of death, peace of mind can come as a direct result of it. Those of us who merely face oblivion have less to fear than those who think they might end up in the bad place. Even Fred Rogers obsessed on his deathbed to his wife, "Am I a sheep or a goat?"

>>508839793
This is exactly what I believe as well. Your quality of consciousness determines how far up out of the dream you wake up from

>>508827394 (OP)
You mean like Jesus? The allegedly sentient being who isn't around today to prove his existence?

I hope I am replying to a bot because any human with this level of retardation shouldn't be able to make a coherent sentence.

On second thought, this has to be a bot, because there is no real argument. It's just an emotional approach to influence opinion. "Oh you don't believe in this LMAO"

How infested is this place? 50% bots? Is it getting the Reddit treatment from the government?

Why do people even think that there simply HAS to be an afterlife? What makes you think you're so special that you are sure you will continue to exist in some other form after your time on this Earth is up? And even if there's an afterlife, which is always a possibility, why do you think it will be in a form described in the Bible or Qu'ran or whatever other book? It's impossible to know for sure if there is an afterlife and if there is, what form it will take. All religions are just assumptions.

>>508839056
you can absolutely "know" there isn't a god. just like every retarded theist "knows" their god is the real one, and every other god is fake...
I am what is called a gnostic atheist. I know there isn't a god.
Watch you snap back now demanding proof. fucking dumb animal.

not politics

>>508827394 (OP)
yeah you disappear every time you sleep and aren't dreaming. I don't believe it's any different. You don't disappear because you were never here, "you" are just a series of experience

>>508827394 (OP)
Even better. Ask them "why" they exist at all. They'll say it was one big cosmic mistake. LMAOOOOOOO

>>508831056
You have your body and then there’s a soul. Your soul never ages and it’s your body your current you to be judged by them when the time comes.

>>508840535
Okay, it's not a cosmic mistake. But what is it, then?

>>508840854
Sounds like Jewish legalisms. They even consider Satan to be a judge.

>>508827394 (OP)
if all that we can perceive now is coming from physical existence, from experiences of the body in interaction with environment, then what kind of existence are you envisioning after death? it’s like existing without home, food and social media on the street as a hobo

>>508835328
> there are millions of people who experienced clear consciousness while theirs brains where clinically dead
> while theirs brains where clinically dead
citation needed

>>508835527
> then you will certainly exist again
Not true at all. Just because it happened once doesn't necessarily mean it can or will happen again. Yes, there's a chance but that's it. Also, even if you reincarnate or whatever, who knows what form you will take and whether you will even be the same person or remember anything for your previous instance.

>>508829876
>oy vey!

>>508827394 (OP)
It takes a while for your body to decay and return to the earth first, but yeah, it happens eventually.

you'll exist as an echo for billions of years with no one to help you, feeling darker and colder with only memories of working 60 years as a wage slaves to keep you warm

>>508835328
First of all, there aren't "millions upon million". Second, none of their stories can be verified in any way. You would actually have to enter their consciousness or supra-consciousness and experience all which they did at that time, which is impossible. I mean, I could tell you right now that I had an out of body experience and you're supposed to believe me? I never did by the way.

>>508841262
> even if you reincarnate or whatever
reincarnation is a retarded concept, effectively meaning you died because it’s not you anymore. would really assume having had my piss for breakfast while inhaling my shit just because atoms are being recycled?

>>508839843
That'd be true if it weren't for the fact that religiousfags didn't all believe they are either in God's grace's or believe they'll be forgiven anyway.

Death row inmates have a priest.

>>508841555
>reincarnation is a retarded concept, effectively meaning you died because it’s not you anymore
It's not you in corporeal sense which your mind seems bounded in. It's the eternal immutable soul which instantiates again into the corporeal into hierarchies of existence based on nobility.

>>508827394 (OP)
Of course you don't just "disappear" after consciousness ends. It takes some time for the body to decompose.

>>508841948
>something something fancy sounding
sounds like you’re too scared of the truth and too dishonest to say it out loud and in plain words

>>508841555
Call it what you will, I don't care. Point is, life may very well be a one time experience. Or maybe a 3 time experience. Under what basis does someone assume he/she will just keep coming back ad infinitum?

>>508827394 (OP)
Death isn't real. At least not in the way we think of it. The Universe is one sentient mind experiencing itself. What we see as death is really just a transition. Your life experience from beginning to end is simply added to the sum total. We are all one. Not just people, but also animals, plants, and all matter in the Universe. Even the most elementary particles have some basic form of consciousness. The Universe is consciousness.

>>508827394 (OP)
There is no you. Only the universe has a soul. Cosmotheism is truth.

>>508828322
You're an apostate/satanist. Quit using euphemisms made up by Jews.

>>508842149
Correct. There's a reason Jews push materialism on everyone. They don't want people to realize spirituality is real to some degree.

that would be silly
everyone knows that if you said the right combination of magic words which the one true cult taught you then you magically appear as the young and handsome version of yourself with the one true god where you get to see your grandmother who still looks exactly as you knew her when you were a child as well as that pet who died where you can all enjoy cookies while enjoying the screams of everybody else as they are punished for all eternity because they believed in a slightly different version of your religion

>>508827394 (OP)
We used to have a term for them: small souled bugmen

>>508844298
Being pedantic isn't an argument.

>>508839584
Then we must annihilate India .

If there is an afterlife, the dead are completely unable to communicate with anyone alive.

I listened and looked for signs for a long time and heard and saw nothing.

Decay is peace.