If you're reading this /pol/, chances are you've been locked in a fight with lust for years—maybe even decades. Porn, fantasy, secret sin, the cycle of guilt and relapse. You win sometimes, then lose. You pray, you walk away, you fall again. And you're sick of it.

The truth is, this struggle isn't proof that you're a failure. In fact, it might be proof that you’re still alive in Christ. The dead don’t fight — they just follow the urge straight into sin without resistance. The poser Christian lives a double life, says the right words, but sins in secret without any real struggle. That’s not a battle — that’s slavery.

But if you hate it, if you're fighting tooth and nail, even when you lose sometimes — that’s different. That’s war. And war is what the Bible promises:

>“the passions of the flesh wage war against your soul.” (1 Peter 2:11)

This post isn’t a guilt trip or a cheap motivational speech. I'm focused on helping men fight this exact war. No prosperity BS. Just real stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUu_ClTsKj4

>>508848116 (OP)
>"Lord Forgive Me" - Psalms of Repentance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvjSFwWU88

I just dont get why its so bad

>>508848371
>You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:27-28, ESV)

>>508848116 (OP)
I have fallen beyond redemption. I no longer suffer guilt, or even post nut clarity anymore.

>>508848646
Do you believe in miracles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WoIHtAanU

The idea that lust is a sin seeks neurotic to me. If you are watching so much porn it is a problem like watching too many movies or playing games too long, yes that’s a serious issue. If you’re a pervert who can’t help leering at every woman who isn’t a hambeast, that’s an issue. But otherwise I don’t see it as that destructive and I’m not a Christian but even Aquinas and Augustine said prostitution should remain legal because they said outlawing it would be like outlawing cesspits to abolish sewage

>>508848885
>For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16, ESV)

> men who are attracted to women are sinners!

This is just stupid.

>>508848116 (OP)
>The poser Christian lives a double life, says the right words, but sins in secret without any real struggle. That’s not a battle
Could not have said it better myself,i read somewhere than half of priests consume pronography (probably more that are just better at hiding it) and nearly every modern christian seems to be fine engaging in lust regularly without even guilt,this and more is why i left the church (but not God)

>>508849496
>When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?” But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible. (Matthew 19:25-26, ESV)

>>508848116 (OP)
Solid helpful thread. Thank you, OP. Bump

i havent looked at porn or fapped for 6 weeks and i feel as shitty as ever

>>508849496
Good desires can easily be corrupted.
Take food, for instance. Eating is good. Necessary for survival. But gluttony to the point of obesity is immoral.
Same with sex. A man and women procreating is natural. Some dude staying up all night gooning to extreme porn is abominable.

>>508849553
Have you been reading your Bible?

>>508849021
>trust me, bro

>>508849606
God bless!

>>508849661
Shitty how? You don’t have a mold problem by chance do you?

>>508849696
I jerk it to soft core porn once, maybe twice a week to get the itch off my back. I also look at girls who show off their bodies in public, because my very being tells me to be attracted to them. If that makes me a sinner who is going to hell then I guess I'm going to hell.

>>508849773
Oh come on now. You know OP is right

>>508849773
>And he believed the Lord, and he counted it to him as righteousness. (Genesis 15:6, ESV)

>>508848116 (OP)
its not easy undoing a lifetime of bad choices, malaise, and hedonism im only human i hope the lord will have mercy on me.

>>508849906
We all deserve to go to hell, anon. It is the blood of Jesus Christ that saves us. Believe and you shall be saved. Seek and you will find.

>>508850044 (checked)
Will pray for you dear friend. Read your Bible and be strong.

>Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will hear you. You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart. (Jeremiah 29:12-13)

>>508850046
Exactly. Christianity isn't about moralism and following or gaming the law of God. (That's what Christ rebuked the Jews for).
It's about being born again. Having your desires changed. You naturally reject those things you loved for something more valuable.

>>508849846
huh? no i dont think so
i just dont wanna do anything

>>508850044
> i hope the lord will have mercy on me
Of course He will, anon. I will keep you in my prayers. God be with you. The Lord guide you

>>508850044
If Saul of Tarsus can be saved, anyone can.

>>508849958
>trust me, bro, a Jew said it, I believe it, that settles it

>>508849696
>everything good is bad
Rigged game from the start. God should fastrack every Jew to heaven so I can live in peace.

>>508848116 (OP)
Or if it's actually harming your life, you can stop the religious posturing and "addiction" mindset nonsense and just stop doing it. It's not hard at all.

>>508850356
And your hatred for Jews?
>Trust me bro! Some bitchute video told me, I believe it, that settles it

>>508850266
You don’t have any yellowish/orangish discoloration on your beading or other fabric items in your home? I did and i thought it was sweat stains / natural discoloration but turns out it was toxic mold. The shit gave me depression, anxiety, anhedonia, made me wake up with headaches, it even gave me nightmares lol. I sprayed some speciality spray in my bathroom to remove it from the tile and it almost immediately cured my symptoms. I did further digging and learned all about the stuff and started washing my bedding and clothes with this specialty anti mold detergent as well and haven’t had a problem since. Turns out the shit might be much more troublesome that a lot of people realize

>>508850434
It actually is very hard and addictive and will become worse as technology progresses. You are already seeing it with GenAI and VR/AR.

>>508850432
Or, you know, life requires nuance and balance.
Or blaming 'da joos'.....

>>508850356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHWEGsic1Q4

>>508848116 (OP)
many people arent addicted to porn they are addicted to the dopamine/serotonin rush. this is also why people get addicted to carbs, cheese, smoking, sugar, etc etc. chasing the 'head change'

>>508850356
We here at 4chan love Jews thoughbeit

>>508850487
Hygiene is xxxxxxxl important. Especially when you leave teenage years where you‘re more resistant. Later on 30+ clean all your shit periodically, it‘s absolutely a thing in air quality.

This fucking gay larp. Burgers cant be christian since theyre satanic golems by origin. Even haitians can be proper chistians, but never, ever, an amerilard.

>>508848116 (OP)

Is this a semen retention thread?

>>508849696
>>508850252
Have you read Saint Maximus the Confessor? He systemized your intuition and understanding on this at the highest level possible, check his gnomic and natural will ideas, you can ask AI first.

>>508850044
I asked the Lord, “Why did You make music for us?”

The Lord said, “It helps the heart physically and the Spiritual body.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqLWnoEKjsw

>>508850525
"It is actually very hard!"
Keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, I'm going to enjoy my life without porn.

>>508850600
We are locked in wars in the middle east becuase Mossad black mails our politicians or bribes them. Our President is beholden to Israel becuase he fucked children in camera and is trying to hold off the tapes. God should do a better job of he wants me to take this world and his word seriously.
Or it just happens that your God and your beliefs are fake.

>>508850776
So why is pork unclean then according to Saint Maximus? Why would God create evil "unclean" things like pigs?

>>508848116 (OP)
I ain't fighting my lust
I just masturbate to my own generated ai sloppa
My dick hurts again...
Fuck
Lately I got better at generating so I fapped all day
The first time I discovered the wonders of ai sloppa i fapped straight for 2 weeks
Needless to say my pp wasn't happy

>>508850708
No, but it should be. Gooning is cringe, and you’re letting a man touch your pp (that’s gay)

>>508848116 (OP)
What the fuck is up with that gypsy/jew in the OP? It takes one to know one and I specialize in sniffing out jews/gypsies and anything relating to middle easterns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUu_ClTsKj4
Look at that hypocritical piece of shit. Look at this THE THING motherfucker imitiating a white man's voice. Probably wears contact lenses as well unless his father fucked a gypsy.

Anyone want to raid his house? moron showed off his face.

>>508848116 (OP)
> And you're sick of it.
No, i am sick of this life that ive never asked for, the flesh is prison for soul.
Lust is carnal desire no different from other carnal desires such as hunger or fear.

>>508848497
Jesus isn't real. The Bible was written by some crazy schizos who used it to control the population to do their bidding.

I agree that being a porn addicted gooner is bad but /pol/ christfaggotry is gay and embarrassing.

>>508851043
>Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” (John 4:13-14, ESV)

>>508851062
> written by some crazy schizos who used it to control the population to do their bidding
Sounds like the influence /pol/ has over the rest of the internet and broader society

The random porn you see posted here is meant to trigger your coomer senses. Just remember how ashamed of yourself you feel immediately afterward and skip the bullshit. You'll immediately feel better after denying temptation. Like you're in control again.

>>508851062
What is Truth?

>>508851094
Who said I was from /pol/?

>Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:16-20, ESV)

>>508851304
LARPing as a "le trad" christian is common here.

>>508851207
>Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. (1 Peter 5:8-9, ESV)

>>508851411 (checked)
And this ain't bait.

>>508848116 (OP)
You don't necessarily need someone who is calling himself "Cwist" in order to not be a total degenerate.

>Stop watching porn because uhhh because I need you to produce more slaves and if you stop watching porn you will totally do that uhhh

>>508851207
> The random porn you see posted here is meant to trigger your coomer senses
This is correct. All porn posted on /pol/ is chud psyop in order to get you to interact with their bullshit thread so they can collect free dopamine hits from other chids in order to feel relevant. It’s not different than the R*dditor freaks and their updoot system except even less shameless

>>508850913
>pork
You're thinking of muslims and jews

>>508851260
I'd rather ask Plato instead of a book made up by desert Jews.

>>508851627
Knock knock. Apologize. Now

>>508851840
>Chain smoker (shit stamina)
>Gymcel muscles (even more shit stamina)
>Disgenic poor vision (needs glasses)
>Disgenic glass jaw (chinlet)
>Absolute 0 tactical IQ (knocks door and lets me have the first move, not even pointing the gun at the ready)
Im gonna kill this weak retard really quick and then go back to gooning

>>508848116 (OP)
No offense but he makes a mistake. Guilt is still technically a struggle. Yet he marks it as not following christ. A bit of a mistake there.

>>508852037
How are you going to open the door with those hairy gooner palms? You’re majorly fucked lil bro. Time to apologize and pay the piper

>>508851833
Why did God create them?

fight the good fight bros

https://youtu.be/v-3ZSGX7E-k

>>508852119
There is a channel called howtobasic. It shows how you open doors in some of the vids. Anyways back to gooning and making no tax payers with this batch of semen(again).

>>508852390
> howtobasic
You’re an oldfag and you still haven’t learned that semen retention is the key to generating true meme magic? Sad

>>508848116 (OP)
Ohmygot... This thread... another supposed lame solution to porn addiction. None of these solutions even come close to AVRT https://youtu.be/S53OjsF3z-w the first 30m are slow introductions then the truth bombs start dropping. No religion shite

>>508852554
>Just do semen retention because uhh muh meme magic bro
Nope, not producing more slaves for you. All that semen goes into a tissue.

>>508852665
> All that semen goes into a tissue
I know that. That’s the problem. It should be going into a female instead

>inb4 not making more slaves for your system
I better not hear you bitching about the decline in the White population or blaming Jews for it. I’m telling you to go spooge inside a pretty lady and have a beautiful family and come to God
>t. Jewanonk4xw0v

>>508848116 (OP)
Praise Jesus. Sharpen the iron, OP.

>>508852828
See? All your semen retention memes, all your "muh porn bad" bullshit, all your muh struggle against lust nonsense, all your "muh desert book says" crap.

It all has one purpose, trying to manipulate me into making children because you are desperate no more slaves are being made for your benefit. Plus in your mind Im ungoverable and I might flip a coin one morning and decide to end you with nothing to hold me back from doing so.

Your desperation makes my dick hard and makes me want to goon and cum into a tissue even more than before, thanks for the motivation.

>>508850525
I got a Meta Quest for VR boxing to get in shape. I don't regret it but there's something genuinely unpleasant about VR in general. I can use it just to work out but it feels very wrong to enter that false space, even more insultingly it's still not very realistic.

>>508851062
You’re really going with the ‘07 atheist route huh? At least just say Jesus was a kike like the typical pol anti Christian. At least those guys can admit porn is garbage for your brain

>>508848116 (OP)
porn is evil but fuck off with your 100% AI written content
>even when you lose sometimes — that’s different
pro-tip, delete all the em dashes next time

>>508850776
>self-esteem is evil
Fuck this fucked religion.

>>508853208
During my sleep I had this dream. In this dream on three separate occasions, I was moving on an escalator and during these movements I’ve found myself completely changed in the blinking of an eye. My whole body had changed into a different person, and that shocked me. I noticed that even the people around me noticed my change. I could sense this powerful spiritual power inside of me, and all around me. This occurrence was so powerful it awakened me from my sleep.

Prophecy:

Then the Lord said, “Do as I tell you, write what I say. The more a person seeks the Lord, truly in their heart, they will find this transformation. This will not be like in man’s words, but truly I tell you, the Power of the Holy Spirit will fill My True Followers. My People will know beyond a shadow of a doubt, they have become Spirit filled Christians. This transformation will transform people into the Army of God. My Glory will be in this person with the Power and Might, and the Doors of Heaven will be opened to them. My Children seek Me, and you will find Me. For all the Power of God is in My Spirit now and forever.

Remember adultery, idolatry, lies, stealing, seeking the things of this world, mean death to you forever. Leave Satan and this world, and seek your God and Savior and live forever in Heaven. Read and listen to My Word for the end is before you. So be it! So be it! So be it!”

>hate women
>hate jews
>hate men
>hate niggers and jews and pajeets
>just hang out with my dog and walk the little guy and cook food when i feel like it

>>508848116 (OP)
Fuck off, kike, people must extinct. Yes, it will happen eventually and you can do nothing about it.

I don't believe me touching myself is a sin.
>You are supposed to fuck
If I had a woman who loved me I would fuck her non stop and have 10 children. But no one wants me, same as 80% of males, and still I get the blame.

>>508848116 (OP)
I watched the video, learned nothing. what was the big change that should help me in my struggle? the jesus story? to repent? how does that help anyone, we already know. once you started you won't stop fapping, get used to it. sounds rough but that's how it is, even the pope himself jacks off from time to time, you can't tell me he doesn't.

>>508848497
Look up what adultery means, retard. It has nothing to do with porn.

>>508854655
hating women is jewish

>>508857512
Do pornsites all use the same servers or something? Every porn site is currently running slow as shit, even my private tracker, yet all other sites are completely normal. Seems a bit too coincidental.

>>508856167
that is why Thomas Aquinas said masturbation is worse than rape

>>508848116 (OP)
You're an evil subhuman

>>508858146
Cool. This just makes me want to fap more.

>>508848116 (OP)
The EzPz method along with prayer has a 100% chance of working. No one tells you this
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLu5tKfQq0iya8LLJ8hOEy9_xsqjB85Eh5&si=3SO-JrigKlLW8IhS

Ah! Please be goymutt somewhere because star of david own 'adult' industry.

>isn't real.
What is real and what is not is not up to you to decide, faggot.
>The official narrative was written by some crazy schizos who used it to control the population to do their bidding.
Fixed you.

>>508848116 (OP)
I appreciate posts in times like these. I feel the grace of God every day in His forgiveness for my sins and as He fights my battles. I have struggled with pornography/masturbation/lust addiction for many years, with different seasons of my life yielding different fruits. Since I recently returned to the church, I have felt a great passion in my heart for Christ and I have been working to sacrifice all of the things in my life that separate me from the Lord. I am on a journey towards becoming the man in Christ that I have always dreamed of becoming and I hope that in my actions I will be able to fulfill the will of God in my own life and let it be done in the world around me. Without Christ I would still be living in misery with no hope of escaping the sin that has controlled my life. God truly does work and we must only be faithful

>>508851133
And what if i am not slave to carnal self preservation instinct?
I have no interest in any kind of afterlife.

>>508848116 (OP)
Open wide, I need to piss.

>>508848646
>>508850044
You guys need the sacraments, I managed quit like this >>508858211 but I still wish I had access to the confessional in all that time. It makes it a million times easier, if any of you are validly baptized I’d get in contact with a Catholic Church immediately to be able to receive those graces

>>508854608
St. the Basil said that the one who is a reputable person, who gets the work done perfectly but thinks of himself as no one, not important is greater and on the correct path in contrast with someone who is bad at everything but has high self-esteem.
Unfortunately this is an English translation problem, not conceptual. Anyway 4chan is of such a format that it doesn't allow these in depth discussions and clarifications. We're trained to be on a rush and judge hastily, moving to the next dopamine hit, learning nothing and falling prey to disinformation and delusions.

>>508850708
It's another propaganda bot thread, that's for sure.

>>508858146
>that is why Thomas Aquinas said masturbation is worse than rape
What do you mean? That masturbation is worse than rape because rape creates children?

>>508848116 (OP)
The problem isn't lust.
It isn't porn.
It isn't masturbating.
It's the device in your pocket that leverages all these into an addictive activity, design that way purposefully to extract value from you.
Control the device and solve the problem.
Skip the bullshit moralizing and guilt trips.

>>508858146
>some crypto satanist said masturbation is worse than rape
Don’t care.

>>508848116 (OP)
>cycle of guilt and relapse
Guilt is only a thing in this context if you're religious

>>508858754
>he wants confess his sins to some soulless, atheistic pedophile
Absolutely disgusting, you make me sick.

>>508854608
To be concise, vainglory would be a better translation.

>>508848116 (OP)
christcucks are radfems and brown, what a surprise

>>508848116 (OP)
I never felt guilty about fapping, however, a few years ago I made a goal to not fap for 90 days because I wanted to get that addictive part of my personality under control.
Do 90 days and you'll be able to conquer any vice. Yes it does actually feel like building XP toward a willpower level-up.
I quit habitual smoking. I drank alcohol and ate junk every day and I quit those too because I simply decided I was going on a diet. It wasn't even hard once I made the decision to stop, and I credit making the huge effort to quit fapping for 90 days.

>>508859496
probably that is the reason he thought that, yes

Good luck to all that are on this path

>>508848116 (OP)
I barely even fap anymore. It's just gotten so boring.

>>508848116 (OP)
these kind of threads are on par with rebbit "please pray for me I masturbated today" posts

>>508848116 (OP)
I just came in my gf for the third time today

>>508861740
my current gal goes completely cold after sex. more than once a day is out of the quesiton
its like a switch flips

>>508848116 (OP)
>porn
sigh, the feelings go away when you are 40+
Life is short.
have fun with porn while you can.
Fuck these grifters.
porn rocks.

>>508862209
good boomer

>>508862270
I'm a millennial not a boomer. Class of 2000

>>508862564
age does not matter, you are spiritual boomer

>>508861374
That's absolutely retarded. Even in ejaculation there are thousands of sperm that end up dying, so it's the same fucking thing, life starts at conception.

I'm masturbating because I can't find a woman, not, I'm not finding a woman because I'm masturbating.
Last 3 girls I asked preferred to go whoring rather than having a normal relationship.

If everyone followed Aquinas celibacy, no one would reproduce and humans would go exciting. I'm tired on christianity looking bad on sexuality, this doesn't have anything to do with the degenerate whorism we are watching today.

Aquinas was fat, so he wasnt sinning in gluttony by gouging himself with food to the point of damaging his body?

>muh porn is like drugs brah
just… dont open the tab you retard? i havent watched porn in like 2 months without meaning to and i dont think i ever will again. it’s all boring fake-acting now that they deleted all the good amateur stuff anyway. i denounce the talmud btw, before you think im some sneaky kike. i do think it should be banned for the simple fact ALL porn studios are jew owned, but at the end of the day… YOU’RE going to those websites. just dont? it’s that easy.
>stupid alcohol industry making me buy an ice cold pint every day after work
that’s how you sound

>>508863817
>masturbation
Masturbation is a misuse of the creative forces that were given to us by God. We are made in the image of God. The act of sex is an act of creation and should be sacred. Misuse of sex, may seem insignificant, but over the years it has been profaned and you can see its destructive consequences with abortion and single family households, as it has destroyed the family unit and the institution of marriage. Also, if everyone turned gay, then the human race would die out in one generation. Sex is creation. If people treated sex properly, then there would be no need for abortion (murder) or birth control. Birth control screws up women's hormones and kills their fertility.

>>508863817
Masturbation is very difficult to stop believe me I know, but we would be better off not doing it.

>>508849661
dont fall for the nofap cult, do it

>>508864346
I could understand masturbation being bad if life started before conception and all the sperm was valuable but that would imply that for each conception there would be thousands of killed lives.

I could also understand it if I was actively refusing to form a family or if I refused to have sex with my wife and masturbated instead (like that story in the bible). I don't understand how is it any different than scratching my ass or caressing my own head.

I always see many christians obsessed with lust and masturbation but never with gluttony and food, many priests I meet are obese, or pride and treating others like a jackass, it's always a holier than thou attitude, which Christ condemned. It's always like lust it's put in a different category as other sins. I also don't believe for a second that masturbation is worse than rape, adultery or going to a pride parade on the streets with all of those nude people in front of children.

>>508848116 (OP)
So are you teaching kids to be a sexual like Jesus was?

>>508848116 (OP)
>secret?
Nah my fetishes are public, my mom knows.

>>508864893
Jew detected

>>508864799
>I could understand masturbation being bad if life started before conception and all the sperm was valuable but that would imply that for each conception there would be thousands of killed lives.
There is only one soul connected to the load of sperm. Sex is an act of creation akin to God. I think that's why sex is supposed to be sacred.

>>508864429
when i was 17 i joined the army, didn't masterbate for 15 weeks during basic and AIT. the only time to do it was in the bathroom while you were on fire patrol in the middle of the night.

if theres anything i've learned from not cooming and cooming regularly.
it doesn't matter, you're body will just increase sperm production when you start cooming more often, thats about it...

>>508865131
So there is a soul connected with each load? What happens when you are unable to inseminate a woman even if you fuck her?

Also where did you get the soul per load crap?

>>508865326
he's just a retard.
most protestants think life begins at conception (like when the sperm enters the egg)
the idea of thousands of sperm sharing a soul is just fucking stupid and deserves to be laughed at
>>508865131
LOL retard

>>508865326
>Also where did you get the soul per load crap?
Well, human beings usually have one child at a time and not litters. A woman has to be receptive as well.

>>508865438
>most protestants think life begins at conception (like when the sperm enters the egg)
Its interesting that there is a light when the sperm enters the egg.
https://youtube.com/shorts/CPWXF-OHt5w?si=WVTt9XWFWwtZwxfu

>>508848116 (OP)
>nooo, my christcuck fairy tale says you can't do that!
not only that but you faggots are so retarded that you go for the company and not people doing the degenerate shit like the porn studios and (((actors))) that produce the content. Kek.
I mean, how many porn sites there's out there?
Are you gonna wack-a-mole them or do them all at once?
Cuck search engines already deleted half of the internet or more from your results anyway.
How about onlyfans? Or whorecam sites?
Either way, the most pathetic part you don't focus in true virtue, but some kike cattle ranch mechanics of your Golem OS.

>>508865438
I understand udeltary being a commandment. We are seeing the consequences of it today. It destroys families, it destroys trust, women are retarded and adultery makes them show their retardation, if you fuck and you get a child, the child gets affected...

I don't get how me rubbing one before sleep is comparable, unless it is some kind of butterfly effect kind of crap. Onan sinned because he didn't fucked who he had to fuck when God told him, not because he masturbated ( I think).

I'm curious if he would have sinned if he fucked the girl, then masturbated. Dunno.

I would certainly not masturbate if I had a woman.

>>508849773
I mean, yeah. That's what faith is, anon. Would you rather put your trust in the institutions of man?

>>508848116 (OP)
must... post... early teenage... lewd...

"You look hot and bothered. You should come over and chill out on the couch with me, Anon. I promise I don't bite, hard. :3"

"Go anon, you can do it (me)!"

>>508865641
In english

"Come to bed Anon, honey. I have a nice surprise waiting!"

>>508848116 (OP)
don't even know what left right in and out mean anymore, we just know we get loads of unwanted frequencies, literally have to deal with it for life, but can work around it as a giant.

>>508848116 (OP)
I'm having trouble quitting jewish pornography and nicotine. It's better than actually fucking slutty women like I use to but not by much. The desire is still there
I don't use porn nearly as much as I use to and never really used it excessively even when I did but I still need to take total control over it in my own life especially after getting married
Coomer threads all over this place don't help but my willpower is getting stronger every day

>>508857237
It means what God said it means.

>>508867421
"right wing" in nuspeak is anyone that doesn't totally embrace the genocide of the white race so might as well go full fash at this point because that's what they'll call you anyways
At least if we're gonna have a authoritarian police state anyway it doesn't have to be one that fucking sucks and is getting more black and brown by the minute

>>508848116 (OP)
I CAN'T GOON
I CAN'T GOON
I CAN'T GOON

>>508866234
>>508866608
hot

>>508865660
Masturbation isn't a sin. Excessive masturbation is a sin. Consuming porn is a sin. Lustful thinking is a sin.

>>508848116 (OP)
I really don't understand how you retards get addicted to interfering with yourself. If you're having trouble staying away from something invented about a week ago, you have no soul and there's no hope for you.

Call it a struggle, call it god giving you "his toughest battles bro", you're a hylic who can't stop hitting the orgasm button

>>508870199
>masturbation isn't a sin
maybe in the protestant religion version you subscribe to but it most definitely is considered a sin in traditional Christian circles, for those with the concept of "mortal" sin it is a mortal sin almost on par with fornication

watching porn and maintaining healthy sexual relationships with partners had never been a problem for me, until my current relationship became the longest I've ever had. About 2 years into my relationship with my now wife, I opened my laptop with her next to me and there was porn on the screen. She didn't have an insane reaction, but she did say "Hey! I don't like that you watch that... Porn ruins relationships you know". And I said "yes, yes, don't worry. I can stop whenever, and if you don't want me watching it that's no problem, I'll just stop"

And of course, I just brushed her off, continued using it, because to me I thought I was different, and it wasn't really affecting our sex life satisfaction.

Then some more months went by I noticed that I dreaded anticipating my wife wanting sex, because I knew deep down that I was more satisfied by the porn I was watching, and jerking myself off. That, and the fact that I had typically already used up my energy on porn during the day, and she wanted to get sexy at night.

I would have to imagine porn scenes to stay hard, I'd even have to some times hype myself up with porn in the bathroom before getting into bed to get my libido where it needed to be to perform.

For a while, we just didn't really have sexy times at all, because I lacked interest in it. The final straw and what made me realize I needed to take it upon myself to want to quit, was when my wife texted me during work one day that I should go get my libido checked out, because it's not normal that a 24 year old isn't feeling raging desire to have sex.

From that point forward, I stopped jerking off to porn, deleted all my folders/collections, put filters on my tik tok and Instagram for you pages, deleted any second accounts to hide that shit, and started bettering myself. The thing is, I didn't find this toooo tooo hard. It took just a bit of strong-willed discipline. In retrospect I believe I had a habit more than an addiction.

>>508848116 (OP)
>guilt and relapse
>you’re still alive in Christ
>that’s slavery

>>508870465
porn addict chiming in, the dopamine rush from viewing porn with the associate masturbatory acts is shown scientifically to act upon the brain in a similar way to hard drugs. crack users often describe their first time smoking as ringing the bell. the first time you view porn and jack off one also gets a ring the bell moment, then you send the rest if your life chasing that dragon easily

>>508870478
Is self massage considered generally a sin? Or just genital massage in particular?

>>508870465
Most guys aren't "addicted" to porn but even using it at what would be considered and "average" amount isn't exactly good for you
It makes you lose focus of improving your life and those around you in exchange for temporary relief of actual bullshit problems that need to be fixed as a society at large
It's even worse for guys that never got a chance to fuck a bunch of women like I did and solely use porn as a sexual release and almost always have (or hookers which don't count)

>>508870647

>>508848116 (OP)
>locked in a fight with lust
so dramatic, regarding the personal action, or, rather, non-action, of jerking off. the real problem isnt lust or the sin of the man jerking off. its that the real way to be sexually satisfied - a woman to have and to hold in sickness and in health for better or for worse til death does you part - is openly contrary to the laws and customs of the amerifucks. amerifucks are the problem and low birth rates and mass immigration is the solution. punch a pastor for Jesus, not because you expect that if you punch 1000 pastors you will get a tradwife which was formerly known as a wife which is the ancient word for woman because the difference between a girl and a woman was always that a girl becomes a woman when she marries

>>508848371
Porn gives you brain damage. It shrinks your frontal lobe, in fact turning you into a nigger.

>>508870729
touching yourself in certain areas outside of performing necessary actions like going to the bathroom or washing could be, yes. depends on intensity and if it evolves into masturbation most definitely.
getting a massage outside of the private areas purely to ease aches and pain is fine

>>508848885
>If you are watching so much porn it is a problem like watching too many movies or playing games too long
Thats a bad example, because porn is addictive, way more addictive than videogames due to the orgasm associated with the activity. Porn destroys your dopaminergic pathways, gives you depression and makes your retarded (shrinks your frontal lobe). Porn should be banned, and the kikes that promote it should be killed.

>>508848116 (OP)
To quit porn realize jerking off is a form of worshiping the unholy feminine. Women need to get back into the role of earning your seed. If she isn't going to submit to your authority as a man she's doesn't deserve your mind's attention. People who create porn are demonic. The more you worship the demonic, the more you become a demon yourself. Slay the succubus demons and rise above the guttural debasement that is Woman.

>>508870781
believe what you want, I'm not trying to sell what OPs selling. I tried that it didn't work.

>>508853437
>trying to manipulate me into making children
no, its not. sex in humans has a dual telos
* reproduction
* pair bonding
sex acts that do not involve either are bby definition degenerate and do not satisfy your fleshly craving for
* reproduction
* pair bonding
if you really arent interested in either
* reproduction
* pair bonding
then youre as happy as paul said he was in 1 Cor 7. go be a monk. but any sex acts you perform either achieve
* reproduction
* pair bonding
or are degenerate

>>508857512
women are worse than fags and jews combined

>>508865228
this man knows what hes talking about and has no shame because he knows hes not a degenerate

>>508871095
>is shown scientifically to act upon the brain in a similar way to hard drugs

>>508848116 (OP)
i stopped watching porn years ago. the fakeness makes it hard to get off to, plus there's too much blacked shit which just makes you a cuck for even browsing a website with that garbage. i just jerk off to loli doujins now.

>>508871049
Women in and of themselves are perfectly fine if they're raised correctly and you marry them. They're not inherently the problem, Shlomo
Nu women that kikes have created with no core values, equal political authority, mindless consumerism, fad jumping from one nu thing to the next nu thing, etc are the real problem
Just fix the problems making women this way and they'd be fine, same with men

>>508871303
>i stopped watching porn years ago
>i just jerk off to loli doujins now.

>>508865131
>soul connected to the load of sperm
oh hey its cartesian dualist bullshit again
>sex is supposed to be sacred
it it enough to be set apart only for the spouse or do you need to worship your spouse through the act of sex when God created your spouse and ordained the act of sex

>>508848116 (OP)
>sin

Okay if you're gonna have chat GPT make your post for you at least change them up a little bit so they're not so obvious

>>508848116 (OP)
do the opposite of what any religious person tells you and you will be fine.

>>508848371
Because, the rejection of men from society was actually an unintended side effect of the women and nigger empowerment. The end goal was always to enslave everyone. In order to enslave you, they must control your needs. Historically men have always been locked into society, due to sexual urges. Literally anyone on testosterone is a victim to their sexual urges. They are too powerful, even for women who take T. Men naturally have this, so natural lock in. Porn being free and accessible, means men have no interests in suffering/dying for society.

>>508871288
you can look this up retard, the dopamine dues care if you shot up or jacked off

>>508871649
doesn't care***

>>508871622
Bro its a sin because a rabbi who was murdered and then came back from the dead said so. Trust me.

>>508865660
>Onan sinned because he didn't fucked who he had to fuck when God told him, not because he masturbated
he committed a crime by claiming he was marrying tamar and then not performing his marital duty. God personally avenged this crime.
> if he fucked the girl, then masturbated
masturbation is still a sin because its a degenerate sex act that doesnt advance either telos of reproduction or pair bonding, but, its not a crime, its a meaningless non-action

Not everyone one here is a kike bot, nu fag
Enjoy the retarded shitposts you get nothing out of tho

>>508848116 (OP)
All porn sites capture a HUGE amount of data. Funny how this is never discussed.

>>508871016
Source? It's not the Bible. Jesus condemns impure thoughts. There's nothing impure about self massage, in moderation, in itself, unaccompanied by lustful thoughts.

>>508871303
>the fakeness makes it hard to get off to
You’ve never had sex

>>508848116 (OP)
Dude, just have a quick fap and move on with your day.

>>508848371
Because kikes promote it, what more proof do you need

>>508848116 (OP)
porn is subversive to society.

>>508871649
>soda is as bad as meth

>>508871767
>it's not in the Bible
not everything is in the Bible dude

>>508871767
Pfffffffffffff
Christcucks are the gayest fags of all time

>>508848116 (OP)
I don’t give a fuck about your weird puritan faggot shit. I like getting my dick sucked by my girlfriend while watching porn fuck off and stop trying to make everyone miserable

Lust is just testosterone
. The bible is warring against a hormone

>>508871851
not what I said you dense nigger, like I said I'm not selling anything so you can quit with the dumbass snake oil bullshit. believe whatever the fuck it is that makes your ape-like cognizance content and stop (You)ing me

>>508871949
you used a false equivalence to argue your point.
dumbshit.

>>508848116 (OP)
Pornhub is satanic now. They screwed up their search so it firces extreme porn. The fast food of porn sites

ugh, as soon as i read "christ" i realized this is a cuck slide thread
sick of the spam, guess it's time to tweak filters

>>508871867
Oops! Big mistake. It is actually (You) who is the bad insult name. Cringe for real

>>508848371
>I dont understand why watching other people have sex on a pixelated screen is bad

>>508872046
it's not a false equivalance

God gives you lust
You deny it

>>508871288
Don't you have a drag show you should be participating in?

>>508872156
Explain why its bad

>>508848116 (OP)
The bible is so gay, your addiction to porn is caused by garlic and onion poisoning which both cause intense lust. Garlic and onion are satanic and turn you into an asshole.

>>508872158
>it's not a false equivalance
LOL
neither is my soda and meth are the same then.

>>508872267
yes it is, sugar is not the same. I know it's tough being a retarded knuckle-dragging gorilla nigger like (You) so you have my pity for not having the requisite intelligence to understand. have a great day sambo

>>508872212
Retarded post.

>>508872266
>The bible is so gay
>Satanic
I swear im on a planet of retards

>Demons are real I promise
>Pay me and I'll get rid of them
>>508872385
>jerking off is the same as doin hard drugs
>ur bi stoopid dumb
LOL

>>508872236
Because youre a nigger faggot cuckold with a limp dick

>>508871644
This is Freudian thinking where everything that is done is done out of sexual desire, with libido being central to that aspect.

I don't but it, it's Jewish thinking. Later Freud developped the death drive to explain that life is not based on pleasure and seeking to maximize it.

Your just trying to promote an ascetic life while chad is out there partying, working, getting promotions and doing whatever he wants while you try to resist the urge to masturbate.

What does it grant you besides making you feel like less of a goyim and blaming me for pointing it out.

>Yes I must be a Jew for criticizing nofap.
Fuck porn though.

>>508872537
Nope
Im sure thats why you feel such guilt tho yourself. You’re probably a closet homo.

Antisemitism is the answer, not Christianity. Once you learn how the jew gives it away for free, distributing it as a poison pill, a weapon against the goyim's natural drive and strength, it loses all it's lustre.

>>508871851

>>508865228
Nofap only mattered in the past when people had shitty diets and couldn't sustain fucking all the time.

Just look at other animals in heat during excess food production (summer), they fuck a lot.

Nofap is ascetic, but people use it as cope for why their life is shit. Just avoid porn and do not be lustful.

>>508848116 (OP)
i havent fapped since october
i did occasionally indulge in fantasy but it's going away

>>508872046

>>508872779
> i did occasionally indulge in fantasy but it's going away
Ahahahahahahaha
Christcucks

>>508850776
How is this different than Aristotle's ethics and the golden mean, or from Plato's republic where he talks about the tripartite soul and to temper the desires of the animal?

>>508872403
>Retarded post.
You have to learn how to speak to your audience. Here's your sign.
>picrel
that means you need to look at the picture I attached because it's about you.
I hope this makes your time on /pol/ a more enjoyable experience unlike all the time you currently are spending on Tyrone's pole.

>>508872625
Cope more coomer faggot

>>508866880
>In english

>>508862209
>porn rocks.
Porn is repulsive and if you still think it rocks after 40 you might be a kike. It's pure exploitation of the goy's baser impulses, and once those baser impulses diminish the glamour is gone and you see it for what it is. A complete waste of time.

After forty years on this earth many years of your life did you waste watching porn that you could have spent doing something actually productive? How many opportunities did you miss out on on life because jerking off was more important you?

Guilt around masturbation is important and necessary because without it boys easily spiral into masturbation addiction and let their lives slip through their fingers in a pacified fog.

Goomers cope and pretend they're denying the system, their productive energy, except they're not, they still go to work, they still pay their bills. The only thing that's being denied is your own growth potential as you spend your surplus energy on spilling your seed in futility instead of on anything of value.

>>508872425
The only evidence for their bullshit cult I have ever experienced is how stupid they are and being stuck on the retard planet could very possibly be my version of hell. Maybe we are in hell and the christkikes were right. I’m being hyperbolic but sometimes it feels that way.

>>508872874
it's not different.
they stole everything so they can repackage it and sell it.
for profit.

>>508873106
You worship a kike

>>508873127
I think that some of us may have incarnated here as a karmic punishment yes.

>>508873106
>you could have been out slaving for pennies
did you know that through the 2000 years of christian domination it's only been ~200 years since literacy rates have increased?
Why didn't christians want you to be able to read?
>what does a slave need for literacy.

>>508873129

>>508851062
You have to be 18+ to post here, lil kikerat

>>508873429
Ah yes
>if you don’t accept an abrahamic faith you haven’t grown up yet.

Woah that guy has some scary energy. Look at his eyes. Join his ministry and you'll be handing over your bank balance, keys and daughter to him in no time. "Yeah but I'm not jerking off anymore".

The reality is that North Americans have always had a problem with jerking off and adapt their theology to match it, just like the Bible used to hate black people, established churches and paying taxes on tea. What a coincidence, its what secular Americans believed at the time anyway!

You are very strange people.

>>508872832
>Christcucks
nah
it's not that much of a moral struggle to me
it's that some bullshit power scenarios don't really satisfy me

>>508873487
Yeah, people that don't accept it are mature enough to dont rant about it in a fucking sinaloa narco gossip forum, faggot kikerat

>>508873692
>Repress everything for Yeshua!

>>508873106
>You could've been doing something actually productive!
Like shitposting in a basket weaving forum for the kikes like a good goy glownigger? Fuck off with your "could've should've" been theories, retard

>>508873761
I’m going to rant about it as much as I feel like. The abrahamic faiths are the biggest scourge to humanity.

This is the reality of christcucks
Shame on all of you

>>508870598
Did it fix your problem? I have the same issue with my gf. Tho im 30 and shes my first relationship. Porn from age 10 to 27 before i had real sex.
About 2 weeks in without porn i become a different person, want to leave to chase whores, think about fantasies non stop and crave porn. I delude myself into thinking porn is somethinf i want in my life and something i need and then i relapse. I got problems

>>508873761
>This is your brain on cartelgram slop
Have u ever been hit very hard with one of this round mofos in your head?

>>508848116 (OP)
It's amazing how better my life gets without gooning, like instantly, and substantially, it's really like i'm helped by the God.

I searched for similar thread on all boards, and finally found it (you should add coom, goon, nofap or similar to the post) because I started feeling shitty, my momentum slowed down, and I started getting tempted.

Thank God, you saved me.

>>508849846
explain pls

>>508873782
>repress
it's refinement and purification
feels better to dive in clear water than in some dark, smelly muck

>>508874243
Its repression

>>508873761
it's in the op you retard.
that's what the thread is about.

>>508848371
imagine that pornstar is your daughter or sister or mother and you have to live with that

>>508870598
Imagine being this massive of a faggot that despite having a wife your insta botnet algo is e-whores and booty and not finely curated racism and fatal crashes lmao. You could've tell your her that you are gay instead and that could've been less gay than telling her you are addicted to porn.

>>508874335
lol you're just here to ridicule it but what do you think how people should behave?

>>508874575
Have sexual thoughts about women… why would you repress that? Try to have sex with women. If you are really horny whack off. God gave you a sex drive. Why do you repress it?

>>508874655
>Why do you repress it?
Controlling your animal instinct is the only way to know God. Stop being weak, and become the change you seek.

>>508848116 (OP)
War on porn? Listen buddy, zoomers are so bad at porn, I stop watching porn. Read that correctly, I quit porn because even porn got bad under their creation. It takes me about 1 hour to fap and I'm not going to watch vintage porn with all the hairy shit. Fuck, got me blog posting. Fucking zoomers.

>>508874440
is that what you do when you fuck your wife?
you don't even have a gf do you.

>>508874513
>insta botnet algo
is that something christians do?

>>508874737
My animal instinct isnt out of control. You are trying to repress your sexuality and probably because you’re a closet homo. I think thats what all this religious nonsense is about. You guys want Yeshua to remove the gay from you. Lol.

>>508874440
not my problem

>>508848371
it's junk food for the mind. cheap dopamine to keep you docile and enslaved. also like >>508870894 says, heavy porn users are retarded
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574

>>508874243
Degenerate simps and nofap good goys getting all the coal burners to satisfy their nofap induced "urges" BTFO and die of aids. My hand is always clean and Will never give me AIDS or ask for half of my shit you fucking glownigger faggot

>>508848116 (OP)
Gay thread, jewish rules stiffling natural human emotions. It is perfectly normal to beat your meat and/or fuck whores. Reject the kike mind virus, embrace humanity.

>>508848116 (OP)
Idk how people can be into porn anymore. The golden era of porn is gone now that onlysimps exists. Women get millions just from taking lazy selfies and boring dildo videos. When I jack off I find myself watching old EvilAngel and Mike Adriano videos. Those people can't even run sites anymore because there aren't any hot young girls left willing to do mainstream, male directed porn. The only women left willing to do it are ugly old hags. I can't sit down and watch a new scene of some hot young porn starlet getting her asshole gaped open anymore. Porn is dead, we handed the means to make it over to women and they ruined it as usual.

>Controlling your animal instinct is the only way to know God.
That's why God gave them to you...
because some guy said so...

>>508857237
The word fornication is literally "PORNeia" in Greek. In other words, pornography literally means the graphic depiction of adultery, incest, degeneracy etc

>>508874020
Yeah it did fix my problem. I'm over 1 year clean from jerking off to visual porn. tamed my habit with getting off to audio porn, to force myself to use my imagination more- and now I pretty much just get off to my imagination, thinking of my wife in sexy or erotic scenarios.

Whats awesome is that by accomplishing this, our sex life is extremely awesome now, and when I jerk off to my thoughts in the shower, the feeling is amazing and there's no guilt afterwards.

fantasies are chill, but porn is not. You should fantasize about scenarios or circumstances, not tits and ass directly. Substitute the subject of the fantasy with your wife and boom. problem solved.

I can share more tips if you're interested. It's going to be important to break this habit of jerking to porn before AI porn completely captures your autonomy by giving you exactly what you've disillusioned yourself into thinking you want

>>508874931
>You are trying to repress your sexuality and probably because you’re a closet hom
You let a man touch your dick and you're calling me a fag? You are trying regress your sexuality until you're as degenerate as a woman.

It's totally not because no-fap causes prostate cancer and most hospitals are linked to a religion.

>>508875078
The fact that you need a rulebook on how to live is beyond pathetic. Do you also ask God how to whipe your ass correctly? God doesnt care about what humans do, God does far more important things then watching wheather you jerk off or not. The entire bible commandments and the bible itself is written by kikes seeking to destroy and control the human body and soul. Lucifer/Jesus is humankind's Prometheus. We are free to do as we will, liberated by the messangers of the Gods who sacrificed their eternal lives to grant us freedom.
There are no rules.

>>508875213
> You let a man touch your dick and you're calling me a fag? You are trying regress your sexuality until you're as degenerate as a woman.
This has been another episode of Christcuck Schizophrenia.

>>508875320
I've heard that some of them smell like shit because they are afraid that if they wipe their ass properly they might enjoy it and become faggots.

>>508874655
>sure let's act out on every sexual impulse
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
i'm sure you would hate it and go on a moral crusade yourself

>>508871763
I heard a CIA spook say "have no interest in what you wack off to" and instantly knew, glowniggers are obsessed with what you wack off to!

>>508875510
I don’t act out on every sexual impulse. Everything is either black or white in the christcuck’s mind (another sign of mental illness). There is no in between for them.

>>508850943

>>508875554
Based I hope glowniggers enjoy watching all the derranged shit I look at.

>>508848116 (OP)
Religion propaganda? On my hate-filled forum?

>>508848116 (OP)
sex is great and whoever spams this shit is a nigger

>>508875320
>This has been another episode of Christcuck Schizophrenia.
What ever you say Satan.

>>508875615
>I don’t act out on every sexual impulse
which means you're being a massive hypocrite
my case makes more sense than yours

>>508875730
I rest my case

>>508875320
>>508875450
It is best you two just keep throwing your seed to the ground. No one wants you to procreate.

>>508875767
>I rest my case
It's best you stop trying to make one if you ever want to rest in peace.

>>508875294
So what makes you different than an animal? What makes you different than a nigger? Or even better, here's my greatest filter question that beats even the breakfast/hypothetical pol meme: What's the difference between man and animal?

>>508872611
Define biological needs.
Define biological urges.
If someone has their food, water, home, and health taken care of, as is majority of people in modern first world nation, whats next? Sexual urges.
Its not that sex underpins eVeRyThInG...its that when everything else is biologically satisfied, sexual needs are the next most base level motivator.

>>508875703
I am certain that all the "no-fap" retards are people that have infinitely worse perversions, then they feel shame for it because some retard told them they should and so they try to supress it. It's sad to watch, also all this "guilt/shame after watching porn" like wtf is that? I never had any shame in jerking to the most sickening shit, in fact I am just happy to unload and grateful to be able to thanks to the countless whores doing porn. Thank you for your service whores.

>>508875900
Humans have morals. But morals are subjective, my morals are only do not do harm to others. Your morals extend to the total control of humans. I like freedom, you like rules simple as.

>>508848116 (OP)
if god is all knowing does it mean he knows what it feels like to take a big throbbing black schlong down in the asshole ?

>>508875554
They're collecting a profiel in case you become successful. Then they'll try lure you to parties where they fulfil your fantasies irl.
Once you've used their services, you're totally owned. Going against their narrative will result in everything being spilled and your name being tarnished.

I have a theory that LGBT candidates are preferred in all elements of society because they're EXTREMELY compromised.

>>508872611
sigmund fraud replaced Christianity with his pseudoscientifc doctrine of ΨΥΧΗ ΛΟΓΟΣ by promoting it with perverted nonsense about the anal stage of development and the oedipus complex. state power was used to force compliance with these theories, resulting in the western world becoming gay and stupid, which advanced the Christ-killers ancient goal of taking jerusalem back, since Christ wasnt the messiah they wanted, the jewish people became their own messiah

>>508875900
>What's the difference between man and animal?
Animals weren't made in God's image?

>>508876219
>be all powerful god
>everything isn't made in your image

>>508876134
>Then they'll try lure you to parties where they fulfil your fantasies irl.
Based
>Once you've used their services, you're totally owned. Going against their narrative will result in everything being spilled and your name being tarnished.
Cant tarnish me cause i dont give a shit lol.
GIVE ME THE SEX PARTIES GLOWNIGGERS

>>508875900
Man is an animal.

>>508875914
>sexual needs are the next most base level motivator
ok but why cant people care about family at the same time as everything else? phrasing the need for a family as sexual needs is gay

>>508876134
solid theory

>>508876330
>not me, never
You might think it's based until it turns out she's v& material and it's all on tape.
then you'll be jumping around for the jews like a turbogoy trying to avoid nigger rape in maximum federal alcaatraz jail.

>>508876055
But morals are, just like religion, man-made slavery? So by your standards you aren't free. Also what do you mean humanity control? Thats for kikes/church/science/news followers. I'm an independent truth seeker and it just so happens Jesus words align with what I think is truth (life is truth, death is the lie)

>>508848497
>get asked serious question
>respond with giblislop and a quote from the sandland rulebook

You're fucking retarded, even more retarded than porn consumers.

>>508874808
huh?

>>508848116 (OP)
The porn demon is a powerful egregore that pulls back even the strong willed. It and social media (the female analog to porn) are the only things Jews make free for a reason. You need a distraction to get over it, go for a hike or lift or something every time you feel an intense pull. And if it's bad enough put a blocker on your devices, use a random generated pw you won't remember and write it down and lock it away somewhere that's a pain to get to. That said, eventually you have to release reliance on the blocker or it's domestication not virtue.

>>508876322
>>be all powerful god
>>everything isn't made in your image
Shouldn't you be praying to Mecca? Or are you waiting for America to come save your ass again?

>>508848116 (OP)
Wow, you mean for animals that reproduce sexually, there's a survival bias for animals that find the act enjoyable and desirable? So humans have evolved to want sex? I dunno man, kinda schizo.

>>508876934
I'm a pantheist. Every other take in religion is a fucking anthropomorphic larp.

>>508848116 (OP)
>The War Against Lust — You're Not Weak for Struggling
It's a struggle because you're wearing against nature. Against natural thought and desire. An insidious part of religion, telling you you are evil simply for being alive
>>508848371
Because life is bad. The religious ideal is the rejection of all aspects of life, or at least guilt they can use to control you. All people are lustful because we are animals so they tell you lust is sinful and you need to feel bad about it and suppress it and beg forgiveness for it

>>508875078
πόρνη is prostitution in Greek.
what if the video of people having sex involved no exchange of money?
>>508876597
religion imposes other's moral on you.
if you follow your own morals you are free.
Jesus' words align with your morals because you interpret his words, you decide what he said essentially.

>>508876750
why would you imagine your sister or mother when you witness a sexual act?
that was your retarded advice.

>>508848497
>t. Mutilation enthusiast

>>508876711
Christians are their own best enemy that way. The reason it's bad is because your brain doesn't know the difference between real and simulated sex, especially if you stimulate yourself while watching it. This overloads your system with dopamine which will signal your body to decrease testosterone, increase estrogen, reduce sperm count and erection functionality because you've told it you're highly sexually successful. And that's to say nothing to the addiction and desensitization from overloading yourself with multiple tabs of videos that will make actual intimacy very difficult. Also to say nothing to the psychic bond formed with the porn "demon" that will begin to entrain your thoughts and siphon your energy to the point where it can be straight possession.

Anyone who denies themselves sexual pleasure to prove they're good boys is a low test faggot. It's not even healthy for your body. Regular organisms improve sleep, stress levels, improve sexual functioning, and prevents prostate cancer. You guys are honestly pathetic for buying into this gay shit and making it a huge part of your identity.

>>508848371
Destroying your seed is one of the worst sins in the Torah

>>508877041
>In Plato's philosophy, the demiurge is portrayed as a benevolent creator who fashioned the universe as the best possible reflection of the perfect spiritual world of the Forms

>>508877163
Are you actually retarded?

>>508850776
Some desert virgin is irrelevant to European chads. Kikestianity is ancient Antifa

>>508877328
>I said something stupid.
>I'll pretend I didn't and call them stupid instead.
Did you forget how to have an argument or are you just here to say stupid shit?

>>508873129
Absolutely. The book of John is plagiarized Platonic thought

>>508877243
>don't drink alcohol because you'll die of cirrhosis

You know what morals are objective?
Those that if you break and participate in injure your form.
Sex can be bad if it results in disease.
Eating pigs is bad when it results in trichinosis.
Eating shellfish is bad when it results in paralytic shellfish poisoning.
Christians missed the mark by not denouncing trans and now you are irrelevant.

>>508874965
OT makes it clear fucking whores on the side of the road is totally cool. Genesis 38 has the story of Judah and his three sons. The first son gets married but gets smited for an undescribed sin. So the widow marries the next brother but when he fucks her he pulls out(this is where we get the "spilled his seed on the ground" line which is used completely out of context) because if he impregnates her the child will be considered his dead brother's and so he is divinely smited as well. With two dead husbands she decides she really needs to be pregnant right now so she dresses as a whore(which includes face veil) and waits on a road she knows the father of her husbands will be traveling on. He stops to fuck this whore and leaves some personal items as collateral because he doesn't have the livestock to pay her with him but when he comes back with the livestock she's gone. Few months later she's discovered to be pregnant and the people are gonna burn her but she presents to Judah his ring and cloak as proof of who the father is and he says "aw sheeeeeit". The moral of this story is "see a whore's face before you fuck her, she might be someone you know"
This story is retarded

>>508876546
I dont jerk to kids anon.
>>508876597
No morals are a natural human impulse, it's way different than religion. Religion uses morals and perverts them for their own gain. Do no harm turns into "let someone destroy you"
Lust and love turns into "you should chastize yourself" etc.
Human freedom is the CHOICE of how I live not being told how to.

>>508877702
Alcohol has ruined lives in many more ways than just cirrhosis for those who can't keep a lid on their consumption, m8. As with any vice, moderate use can be fine, but if you don't KNOW you're in control you probably aren't. Whenever I catch myself boozing regularly on habit I have to clamp done with a multi month sober period to straighten out.

>>508878091
I dont care about the bible. Pointless dribble, humankind lived far longer than the existence of the kike book, morals are older than the kike book.

>>508878253
>moderate use can be fine
that was my counterpoint to your statement.
glad you found it.
My eyes hurt sometimes because it's so bright outside.
I don't feel the need to not use them for months on end though.

>>508876417
Yea you can have all sorts of motivators including not biological ones, that all phase in and out of levels of importance for most people, dynamically, even throughout 1 day. When your at work, you are most likely prioritizing a non-biological task which is of higher order then the base, but when you get hungry you may prioritize your break.

Tbh, a world view where sex is NOT of next importance, after your basics like health, home, food, water, are meet, is a little disturbing to think about. Like if you are getting an erection or wet to thinking of changing dirty diapers and taking kids to school, you have something seriously wrong with you.

>>508878125
>morals are a natural human impulse
I don't agree with this.
It was morally correct at one point in jew history to not eat pigs for the sole reason of trichinosis.
that's not instinctual or impulse, it's learned behavior.
to say it is moral today not to eat pigs is religious myth.

>>508878263
I just like telling that story because it's stupid and a lot of people reference it incorrectly

>>508878472
>is a little disturbing to think about.
that is where we are with failing birthrates.
but it is not because guys are jerking off.
it's because women have been brainwashed into thinking they can wait until they are 50 to have a family with the perfect guy.
dating app data has proven this.

I think there's a big difference between porn and erotica. The trash on the main page of porn hub is nothing like the kinds of erotic material I started looking at when I was young. Tasteful, beautiful women; women who were so delightful that sex was like dessert and not even the main focus. Love making; breaking down emotional boundaries between men and women; romance and making families.

I can't even fully articulate what I'm saying. I used to think sex was so beautiful. Now I'm constantly afraid of getting tricked by a whore or getting an STD, so I don't even bother.

>>508878739
I find it morally correct to not have sex with people you are not willing to raise a family with.
It says that I think.

>>508876417
I also may have taken for granted some understanding in my explanation, but to in context of biological needs, to make a biological family, you need to have sex first. To have sex, in this context of family making, you have to be sexual. So sex and sexuality is of lower order than family. But like I said in my other reply, all these needs are dynamic as they are satisfied, or reneeded through your biological lifecycles.

>>508878595
Ok let me elaborate:
Morals are:
Do not kill or harm.
This is the number one moral that is ingrained in humans, we do not naturally desire to kill or harm anyone it is only when defending oneself or someone else that a human wants to kill or mentally ill humans but they dont count.
From the do no harm moral then branches a gray area of million little man made morals, "dont eat pig" because some retard jew fears it will kill him etc. This is why I said I only follow the do no harm moral which is the most basic, raw human moral ingrained in us, everything else is subjective gray area.
>>508878739
Ah ok carry on then

>>508848371

They make men act in irrational ways and that is bad in any society. It’s an unnecessary thing to have and its only purpose is manipulation. It’s extremely bad. You didn’t have as many gays and nowhere near as many autogynophiliacs calling themselves trans when porn was harder to acquire

>>508877001
>I'm a pantheist. Every other take in religion is a fucking anthropomorphic larp.
Do you attend a Unity "church"???https://www.unityuk.org/

>>508878929
But I didn't need the bible to see that having sex makes babies.
>>508879024
I don't think that tracks.
I don't believe "do not kill or harm" is a human instinct.
I think it is a learned moral from what happens to people who do that.
no direct bad comes to your form from killing another.
indirect harm does occur though.
and more people means more protection from predators so it could be an evolutionary moral.
but there is still no direct harm to your form so the instinct is to kill rather than be killed.

>>508878815
Yea maybe, im unclear your point in this post. I agree with your statements, but dont understand how it relates exactly to what I said. Women not having kids or starting families, are still having sex, maybe even more so with more men than women trying to have kids and start families.

>>508848116 (OP)
easypeasy

>>508877041

Nothing is natural about watching a woman made mostly of silicone on a phone screen from thousands of miles away take dicks up her ass with the help of hard drugs.
Sex is natural. Porn is not. Stop conflating the two you degenerate. Also being natural doesn’t make it good. It’s natural to carve out the throat of anyone who goes against you but in a civilized society we don’t do that. You should go eat thousands of intestinal parasite eggs since naturally you would be infected with them anyway. The natural world is one of rape, suffering, and murder. If you choose to be an animal then don’t expect men to accept you into their society

>>508878125
So you worship yourself? I'm not sure I'm following. When a nigger goes to beat rape and loot someone he does it following his own moral code. (Whitey said the n word, reparations, so it's deserved etc). No one forced them to do it. So once again how are you different than a nigger/animal? But also yes the goal of religions is to pervert truth. (Turn the other cheek = be a bitch etc) But fun fact Jesus warns us of these people (Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.)
Also Jesus calling Peter the rock on which the church will be founded and calling him a few verses later Satan (satanas=the adversary)

>>508879302
>the instinct is to kill rather than be killed.
Hense you fear harm will befall you if you do not kill. It is an ingrained insctictive moral of self preservation however I also feel it is a part of the human soul. It feels wrong to kill someone without reason because it is wrong. We are all connected in a way and killing for no reason just destroys our collective spirit.

>>508879366
woman are using men as dildos more.
if they were having sex they'd get pregnant.
women gatekeep sex.
it's not exactly the man's fault they are not becoming pregnant.
so males jerking off to porn has no relevance to procreation.

>>508879561
I always thought of it as you are killing a human form of which you are so you see yourself in the human you are killing.
but is the human form metaphysical or objective?

>>508879521
Beating raping and looting harms a different human, it is disrespecting the morally ingrained instinct of do no harm. It means the nigger is an animal and needs to be put down.