EU-FAGS CLICK THE LINK AND SIGN THE PETITION:
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

Explanatory video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI

No

Keep in mind that this increases the legitimacy of the EU. Just throwing it out there for the few goyim who keep falling for it and keep interacting with this garbage positively. Nothing's going to change and you'll only end up legitimizing the EU institutions, which is probably why it is being spammed all over the internet.

I hope they ban all video games entirely.

>>508856580 (OP)
I don't care if Ubisoft shuts down the crew, fuck off.

Video games are an opiate for golems.

>>508856580 (OP)
They refuse to fund dustborn 2.

bump

>>508856580 (OP)
Based
>>508856693
jeet

>>508856851
Another jeet

>>508856580 (OP)
/who cares if some online only game people haven't played in years gets shut down

>>508856580 (OP)
lmao anon the only games people play here are map painters and schizoid mass shooting fps asset flips, your target audience for this is elsewhere

>>508856580 (OP)
based leaf but /pol/ is too retarded to see where this could be leading

>>508856580 (OP)
>asking the Jewropean Union for aid

>>508856580 (OP)
fuck off

>>508858696
Jeet or kike?

doxx me niggers

>>508859728
>saaaaaar don't redeem the signature!

>>508856580 (OP)
Good man. Have a bump for the Mold Lord.

>>508859497
Seething.

>>508856580 (OP)
No. You faggot gamers are not special little snowflakes who need 1000x the protections of every other entertainment industry, you faggots are entitled to an insane degree

>>508856580 (OP)
i don't understand what you're asking for. you want publishers to keep multiplayer games running indefinitely? that's not possible.

>>508859847
No other industry takes your movies/books/music away and destroys every copy in existence kike

>>508859853
>I don't understand
Well of course. You are a low IQ mutt

>>508859998
why don't you explain it to me then, because it all sounds like a violation of property rights

>>508860033
>Being able to own something violates my rights
kek

>>508856580 (OP)
I already signed it almost a year ago.
Have a bump though

>>508860154
the only games that go out of service are multiplayer games. unless the publisher is forced to release their source code or forced to keep their servers running there is no way to keep the games up forever.

>>508859811
>just voot and sign le petitions
>this is how you make things better
kys you fucking retard

>>508860283
It's been a year since the campaign started, why are people still repeating these ill-informed talking points?

>>508860517
>you're wrong but i won't tell you why or provide any counter argument whatsoever
this is how you know you're just a shill. the guys saying this is about increasing EU legitimacy are correct

>>508860588
It's because you're repeating the same paid shill talking point "this would force companies to operate servers forever" from a year ago that was spammed in every thread about the stop killing games initiative.

It's not asking for that. Stop claiming otherwise you fuckwit.
The initiative is to get the companies to allow for the new games they release to allow for some extent of offline functionality or dedicated server support even after the publisher side abandons the game and shuts down the servers.
The game they're using as an example there (The Crew 2) for instance has offline functionality but Ubisoft deliberately disabled it before shutting down the game servers.

And before you go to your next talking point - no, this is not intended to retroactively affect games that have already been released.

>>508861046
>llow for the new games they release to allow for some extent of offline functionality or dedicated server support even after the publisher side abandons the game and shuts down the servers
how is this possible you stupid fuck? provide an actual functional solution

>>508860588
I know you golems arent much into reading but here is the 4th question from the faq https://www.stopkillinggames.com/faq

>>508861307
so you want publishers to be forced to develop offline functionality for every single game? you want to be able to play the next counter strike by yourself? you want to play MMOs by yourself? what the fuck are you expecting?

>>508859853
Legally make companies who produce online-only games playable in some way if service were to ever end. Private servers or an Offline mode for example.

>>508859853
I know this is bait because it specifically says it won't do this, but congrats on luring a couple anons anyway.
(You)

>>508861373
listen here retard the reason why I cropped the next two questions isnt because of my bad cropping skills its because I knew you would ask the same retarded questions we answered all year
read the fucking faq and stop acting retarded

>>508861440
so you want the government to control how these companies produce their own product for your entitled sake? fuck off commie

>>508856580 (OP)

>>508861548
you have absolutely no solution that isn't using the government as a tool for your own benefit. you got scammed by microtransactions because you're a fucking moron and now you need big daddy goberment to make it all better for you

>>508856580 (OP)
i'm not putting my id in there lol

All the petition is doing is demanding that FUTURE games that you purchase should be able to be repaired by the purchaser and given the tools to do that by the company who sold it should they become unplayable, given an offline mode/way to host your own servers if the company doesn't want to run it indefinitely, and that companies should never be allowed to brick your game that you payed money for by forcing changes or dropping support.
As long as a company doesn't rob you of your game and has a plan if the game relies on their servers to still make it playable when it inevitably gets cut off from those servers.
As a reminder, it is harder to make video games that are killable as opposed to ones that last forever, so it would actually be less effort to include this shit and then tack on the online stuff later.

>>508856693
>>508856797
>>508856851
>>508858696
>>508859497
>>508861640
you are not in the european union so your opinion does not really matter

>>508861738
it's the EU, they already have your ID, that's how they verify that the signatures are real

>>508861643
Yea it's totally rational to use the government to solve a problem like this. The fact that it would be legal to pirate games in an anarchy or whatever doesn't seem important because we don't live in one.

And passing laws to accomplish things like this works just fine.

>>508861643
YES I WILL USE THE GOVERNMENT AGAINST CORPORATIONS

>>508861643
nice bait, no way are you this retarded

>>508861600
Shalom

>>508861643
leave it to americans to defend actual scam practices as long as corpos are doing it

>>508856580 (OP)
No. No I won't

>>508856580 (OP)
Can i vote the other way somewhere? Manchildren are disgusting and useless to society. And kids need to go outside more

>>508862591
No you are just retarded. Now you won’t get to have the products we do because you are an idiot. Why would I sell something to you initially when I have to keep giving it to you forever for free at my own cost.

>>508856580 (OP)
>NOOOOOO DON'T HECKIN KILL THE GAMERINOOO, I WAS TOO DUMB TO REALIZE ONLINE ONLY GAMES WERE A SCAM PLEASE SAVE ME EUROFAGGOTS!!!
get lost nigger, vote with your wallet

>>508862765
it's fine. just shift a bunch of your development budget over to making the mandatory offline mode. just cut out voice acting, make the game 2d, and don't have any innovative mechanics because you can't afford that now.

>>508862701
simply not signing it is already voting against it

>>508863090
>make the game 2d,
Finally, an improvement. I swear game graphics have peaked in Skyrim, but the performance has plummeted. Why does shit that looks identical to stuff from 10 years ago take 100GB and an RTX 5000, just to run at an upscaled lower resolution at 30fps with half the frames being AI generated.

>>508862765
>sell
>for free
Retard, people just wanna own what they buy. It's not that hard to understand.

>>508862628
Libertarians are really stupid and drag this country down as much as kikes, niggers, and latinx

>>508856693
You’re too pour to buy a game system anyways you shit skin faggot

>>508856693
You're not even EU

>>508856580 (OP)
I can vote infinite amount of times?

>>508861373
>MMOs
Stupid example. I don't think these would be subject to the ECI. MMOs aren't purchased, they're paid for via prescriptions
And even if the ECI did cover MMOs, it wouldn't be unreasonable. EverQuest is still alive because of community servers

>Forced to develop offline functionality for every single game
Or just build abstractions and provide documentation of the API at EoL so people can provide alternate back ends. Any developer who acts like this is a burden is a shit programmer failson, like Pirate Software who has failed to deliver a game after getting hundreds of thousands in initial funding and almost 10 years of development.

>>508862765
I don't think you understand the goal.
You sell something, which means it is no longer in your hands- you don't need to give anything anymore beyond this.

How things currently work is that companies pretend to sell you something, while in reality only give you access to it; meaning they can take it away and they will. Why would they do that? So that they can force you to buy access to it again, and again, and again- look at what Nintendo is doing for example.

You pay the same price for a painting, but now they control the projection of it- the paper, and you're left with a blank sheet at their discression. You have to buy the painting again, with a different frame.
They take the real painting, what you paid money for away, not the frame, even though you paid, not for the frame, but for the painting. Without the painting, you wouldn't pay.

The initiative seeks to drag shit like this to law makers.

>>508861600
One of the problems is that we're not entitled. That entitlement needs to be generated through laws.
Rather than control, influence.
Generally yes. We want to influence how companies produce products, which by the way they do for the masses, so that they make money and we have done so in the past. For example, we don't want companies to endanger employees to maximize production.

>>508867846
Literally every argument I've seen against this initiative boils down to

>I don't understand
>I don't think businesses are capable of this
>I don't know how computers work
>Maldivus Figtree told me this is impossible

Any programmer worth their salt knows this isn't as hard as they're making it out to be

>>508856580 (OP)
Already voted
Ross is /v/core and reddit is seething

>>508859847
Show flag

>>508856733
False. As much as we need to keep eu in check here, doesnt mean we can't use it's influence to go to force usafags to do our bidding.

We, the best market in the World

>>508867296
>And even if the ECI did cover MMOs, it wouldn't be unreasonable.
If you are going to say that anyway then make your argument that in the first place you stupid logiclet. Fucking dumb commie nigger.

>>508856733
It's about what we leave to the next generations
It's pretty much the only choice we've had in the last 20 years to make the world 0.1% better through software rights, also if this leads to more and more rights it will eventually fuck the jew over

>>508861600
Brother when the company that you bought your lawnmower from decides to discontinue that lawnmower, they don't come and disable it so you can't use it anymore. And if they did you'd probably exercise your 2nd amendment right.

>>508868859
This thread is about the ECI, so I think it's important to mention what the ECI would cover, while also dismantling their stupid strawman. Retard

>>508856580 (OP)
Honestly I don't care anymore, I've played all the good games, just now I'm gonna finish Elden Ring which I've saved for the end of my gaming run and then it's time to find a new hobby. Even online games are ruined, counter strike is ruined with hackers and every game is just animal turkarabs and rustards, dota is ruined because of toxic rustard subhumans as well. The golden era of gaming is over, at least I was there to experience it.

i signed cause why not, but its slowing down pretty bad isnt it? these petitions are always the same, people get hyped when it takes a day or two to reach the first 200k but then it gets slower halfway there, and then slower and slower, and getting the last 100k is straight up impossible.

This will kill planned obsolescence and remote disabling down the line, think before you vote you economic terrorists.

>>508862780
where has "voting with your wallet" taken us in the last 20 years? all spftware is fucking subscription cancer.

>>508869339
It's starting to get picked up by million-subscriber cringetubers

>>508856580 (OP)
>Sign this totally useful petition goy!
Keep your games alive yourself.

>>508869562
Sadly the average consumer is a compulsive retard that is easy to take advantage of. I recommend not looking into how much Blizzard made during the holiday season selling a time limited 90 fucking dollar auction house mount.

>>508869953
>Keep your games alive yourself.
That's the fucking point. Corpos go out of their way to stop you from being able to do this by making shit like online only single player games that require 3rd party accounts.

>>508869953
That's the point retard, there are games that you can't keep alive by yourself and it's an insult to consumer rights. The future of games is killing perfectly good services to force you to buy the new ones like software companies are already doing

>>508869339
the youtube drama is keeping it afloat
just a single big youtuber has to cover it and it would reach the goal overnight
I gave up on it months ago because I never thought it would reach even 500k but the last few days gave me a lot of hope

>>508873553
>>508869339
I also realized you're looking at votes from the 4th of June so the exposure it's been getting lately isn't represented.
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en#

>>508873869
nevermind I'm retarded

I signed it a year ago. Where can I see how many votes do we have so far? I remember there used to be a website with a vote count.

>>508861291
Releasing server binaries or a patch on EOL.

>>508874178
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
or from the eu site directly
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

there also seems to be another site that tracks it by country but I have no clue where thats from