Thread 508868749

Remember how they said smoking causes lung cancer? Then most everyone quit due to propaganda and sin taxes. Then lung cancer rates continued going up instead of flattening or going down. Doesn't that mean there's no reason to continue sin taxing tobacco and banning smoking at bars/restaurants now? We now have solid observational evidence that smoking was not the cause as "the science" claimed.

>>508868749 (OP)
Actually since the early 90s lung cancer rates have fallen sharply among men.

>>508868749 (OP)
not political

>>508868749 (OP)
>Remember how they said smoking causes lung cancer?
it does and it's awesome
Ever been behind the average tobacco enthusiast in line at a grocery or corner store?
They're gonna waste your time trying to get some super obscure brand that they just know they bought it here last time.

Taxing smokers is a wonderful thing and they should be taxed more.
idc if the govt throws the money into a pit, just so smoker's don't have it

>>508868749 (OP)
I really loved this movie though

>>508868876
I guess it depends how you cherry pick
US rates are the same in 2021 as they were in 1980, the two ends of the specturm on the chart here
https://ourworldindata.org/cancer
The lung cancer bar at the top is always 3x longer than the next most prevalent cancer.
There was no clear benefit caused by wrecking the entire tobacco industry, but "the science" demanded it.

The UK has the worst smoking laws. You're basically seen as a nazi for smoking, and they are even banning gen alpha from smoking..

>>508868986
>not political
>>508869185
lol

>>508868876
Less men working in trades, which is where you were exposed to roundup or asbestos or whatever.
Smoking doesn't cause cancer. It really is that simple.

You know what does and they'll never tell you? FRUITS AND VEGITABLES (even organic and homegrown).

>Smoking and Cancer.
Single atoms of six side neighbor-covalent bond stabilized Uranium 235 exists everywhere in nature, and plants are perfectly fine to stiffen their stems with those bundles of molecules. When you set it on fire and inhale the fumes, the Uranium 235 atom is free to fly around all by itself and then recover its half-living nature since the fire un-binds it. The alpha-beta decay of the Uranium atom self-splits and drops down to Krypton 59, Plutonium 275, Cesium 137 and a dozen others. The fission event creates a burst of gamma, alpha and beta rays that are powerful enough to shoot a high-energy beam of energy that is just strong enough to BTFO a single tooth out of your DNA, just enough to keep the DNA string intact, but not so much that your body can error-correct it. There is a small chance that the modification from this fission event in your lungs can create a cell that behaves selfishly, and grows to the size of a basketball telling your immune system to get wrecked, and now you have cancer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe5WT22-AO8

And so yes, the exact mechanism for how smoke causes cancer, is completely known now.

>>508868876
If we're cherry-picking:
In the UK, female incidence of lung cancer rose by 32% from 1993 to 2019.

Remember when they said smoking causes cancer, smoking will kill you, smoking will set you free?

We do.

>>508869415
>Smoking doesn't cause cancer. It really is that simple.
The real truth bomb is that it doesn’t even have to. Cancer is one of the most overblown smoking risks of all time, even after the statistical increase due to smoking the incidence rate of cancer is miniscule. The real danger is that nicotine fucking poisons your heart. Heart disease and arterial clogging is how smoking kills people. The focus on cancer is because cancer sounds scary and looks horrifying when you show people with stomas in their fucking throat, you can’t be alarmist about increased incidence of heart disease because most American people are already inflating the odds of that happening with horrendous diet choices.

>>508869453
Sure bro, then explain how lung cancer overtook stomach cancer as the number one cancer in Japan since 1980 when smoking rates have been in steep decline that entire time.
https://ourworldindata.org/cancer
Science truster bros, I don't feel so good.

>>508869246
Produced by kikes.

Come and take them.

>>508868749 (OP)
>Remember how they said smoking causes lung cancer
It does. Remember, all fields.

>>508868749 (OP)
Most of the illnesses attributed to smoking are actually caused by air pollution from cars.

>>508868749 (OP)
You should really think more about whether you need something in your life rather than if you can get away with it.

>>508869668
It’s a movie, of course it was. I still liked it.

>>508868749 (OP)
Keep your smoke out of my way you retarded nigger.

>>508869624
>The real danger is that nicotine fucking poisons your heart.
you've been saying this shit all day based on one sluts new report

have never heard it ever
and today i've seen it said twice

>>508868876
OP BTFO, he can't recover from this

>>508868986
>Taxes and legislative band are not political
Wut?
>>508869246
It was a decent film for entertainment's sake. I liked the line about the guy joining the national so he could shoot some college kids.
>>508869633
>>508868876
>>508869263
Interesting. It may be worth mentioning that smoking ups testosterone.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24457405/

>>508869675
>It does
Car exhaust gases and particles likely did at least half of the harm people pinned on smoking. It's not healthy, ofc, but it likely was a scapegoat to keep cars (one of the most signifiant products for economies like Germany, Japan and the US) out of the crossfire.

>>508869783
What the fuck are you talking about? It’s been well-documented that the incidence of cardiovascular disease is higher among nicotine users for a long time. These studies started getting mainstream traction in the late 90s when nicotine patches/gum became available for sale. They saw a resurgence in the late 2010s when vaping became popular. Reminding people that you aren’t saving yourself by specifically avoiding inhaling burning plant matter is always good for a few citations.

>>508869682
A 737 burns more fuel in a single flight than my truck does in a year, and the plane has no catalyst or particulate filter. To say nothing of the shipping industry and bunker fuel, or the steel and aluminum industries. Personal cars are just not the issue.

>>508869353
> You're basically seen as a nazi for smoking
Makes me wanna smoke

>>508870139
>you aren’t saving yourself
What are you saving yourself for?

>>508870139
>THE STUDIES
>THE BasedENCE

>>508869453
Radioactive material falls on the earth from supernova that send material out at fractions of the speed of light and they crash into the earth. Sometimes radioactive atoms can be immobilized and they stop half-living because of the six atomic neighbors. The heat from Fire releases this stabilizing effect, and then you are free to inhale literal radioactive smoke and then say it's fake news that smoking causes cancer.

Radioactive material causes cancer and smoking causes that radioactive material to be in your lungs, and so the suggestion that smoking causes cancer is as plasuble as every step in this sequence.

Also, to be completley clear, the smoking isn't causing the cancer, it's the radioactive decay and proximity to nuclear fission, that increases the probability of cancerous cells.

If you could miracle away all of the Radon, Uranium, Krypton, Cesium 137 atoms out of the tobacco plant leaf, then smoking could be made to not cause cancer, but it's prohibitavely expensive. We're talking individual atoms of radioactive material laid down a billion years ago as soil. Fire and smoke merely create the energetic function that realeases the nuclear-stabilization and thus the beta-decay is free to occur at its natural rate.

This is how Uranium appears in veins under the ground. Processes deep in the earth can amplify or slow the process of the breakdown of unstable elements on the periodic table.

So smoking doesn't cause cancer, the release of radioactive materials into your body and making them free to half-live, is what causes the cancer. The Tar, Soot and imposter neurotransmitters in the plant probably are bad news as well, and they too may be associated with Cancer, since dividing is how tar is mitigated, but that's for the next post don't forget to like and subscribe.

>>508870139
you keep citing "the science" anon
you're such a good science truster
I'm just looking at raw data
>>508869633
your claims are not validated

>>508870305
I’m not. I smoke. I just don’t play copium games about how it’s not reducing my life expectancy. I know it is. So is drinking. So is any trip I take to Burger King. I just don’t care that much. I’m not going to deliberately self-destruct, but I enjoy smoking, it makes me feel good, and I’m going to do it. I don’t need to concoct some elaborate conspiracy in my mind about how everyone is lying about it taking years off of my life.

It would be a stupid lie anyway. What the hell kind of lie is that to even tell? What does it accomplish? I pour an endless supply of money into state coffers and corporate pockets to satisfy an addiction, who profits from me kicking that addiction? It’s a drug that doesn’t render me unproductive to society or in the workplace, forces me to spend regularly, and will all likelihood end with me generating a huge pile of revenue for the medical industry. What kind of lie is it to trick me into giving it up?

Just live your life, anon. Your cigarettes are killing you, but you were gonna die anyway. Embrace reality.

>>508868749 (OP)
>Then most everyone quit due to propaganda and sin taxes.
> Then lung cancer rates continued going up instead of flattening or going down.
It takes decades for smoking and cancer statistics to show Direct Correlation.
>takes years or decades for people to die from cancer
What is Statistics 101.

>>508868876
>Actually since the early 90s lung cancer rates have fallen sharply among men.
Correct . it takes a decade to show up.

>>508868749 (OP)
smoking inside was based. i love going to balkans/europe for that reason. ppl who fret over second hand smoke are faggots. societies that are more lax with smoking are always more free societies with cooler people than societies with endless rules about it.
>>508869185
>trying to get some super obscure brand that they just know they bought it here last time.
bullshit. smokers have one brand they smoke and ask for the same brand everytime. tf u talking about geek boy.

>>508868749 (OP)
Silica on work sites is a major cause of lung cancer. Vapes from chink countries are also filled with lead

>>508868749 (OP)
Oh hey look another glowie conspiracy theory to make the real ones look retarded. Classic well poisoning well played glowie.
>guys what if smoke inhalation is actually good for you

>>508868749 (OP)
The only sensible fix is to breed the super high nic plants back into existence and get back to hooting snuff

>>508870603
>Burger King
Gross

>>508869633
As a current smoker who wants to quit I am honestly more worried about heart disease than lung right now. Smoking also poisons your blood and makes your heart have to work harder with less oxygen supply.

>>508868986
>science is not political
get fucked big pharma phaggot

>>508869624
This is true and I can personally attest to developing atherosclerosis symptoms from it. Best to quit.

>>508868749 (OP)
remember when they used asbestos in cigarette filters. that damn tobacco causing all the cancer!

>>508868749 (OP)

Everybody quit smoking and bought dogs. Instead of smoking, theyre yelling at their dogs at 11 Pm. And now dogs are more offensive than smokers being in bars or restaurants.

I hate this planet

>>508868749 (OP)
chinks are buying up the weed operations in washington state. grow your own.

>>508868749 (OP)
You’re a retarded addict.

>>508868749 (OP)
This is why the National Science Foundation must be shut down forever.

>>508871834
You are in denial about typical city air

You dumb nigger cattle. Most smokers aren't going to get cancer. Almost all of them are going to get chronic respiratory problems, heart and blood circulation problems.

>>508871667
Smokers spend their morning coughing and hacking up phlegm every morning and say "this is fine!".... you know what wpuld help your brain work better? Being able to breathe!

>>508869353
It's about candida yeast. You're allowed to drink as much as you want since alcohol feeds the yeast, candida is the engine room to the parasite worms, which feed on meat, garlic, onion, and alcohol.

>>508872781
I spend my morning hearing cars produce toxic fumes

Do you notice them?

>>508868749 (OP)

Why do you care if smoking is taxed? You’re literally just paying to burn money retard

>>508872985
>wudabout the other bad stuff?

>>508872985
Your own fault, rootless urban parasite.

>>508868749 (OP)
Smokers are the worst subhumans on the planet. The government should hand out money, bounties, for every smoker you shoot you get $1000. Like Duterte did int he Philipines but it should include smokers of all kinds.

>>508868749 (OP)
Remember Elon Musk being in this movie?

>>508870139
>NOOO THERE'S NO OTHER REASON THEY ARE SO FOCUSED ON THIS ONE VICE
nigger, you act like covid wasnt planned for fucking decades
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7836994/

>>508869415
>Smoking doesn't cause cancer
They poison the tobacco with chemicals that do cause cancer.

>>508873693
This is a liberal. You can tell how much a person is liberal based on their aversion to tobacco, their candida yeast/mind parasite hates it.

>>508874022
This is a migger retard who will proudly join the military and die for israel soon. While smoking cigarettes because jewish marketing convinced him it was "badass" to inhale burnt fumes

>>508868749 (OP)
Lemme guess, you just started smoking.

>>508869528
what was the average age of death for a british woman back then vs 2019

>>508868749 (OP)
>hey fellow goyim, remember this shit I just made up?
No. Lung cancer rates are way down you worthless lying yid.

I'd still never smoke a cigarette because of all the artificial shit they put in there. Cigarettes are peak mid-20th-century petrochemical garbage. If I want the nicotine I'll get it from one of the lip pillows.

>>508868749 (OP)
I think they pulled the bait and switch and blamed it on global warming, but left all the taxes and bans in place. Land of the Free n sheeeiit.

>>508868749 (OP)
Everyone switched to weed which also gives you cancer.

>>508868749 (OP)
No one cares, smelly drug addict.

>>508869263
Damn I wonder what made stomach cancer shoot up so much.

>>508876039
Glyphosate, I'm guessing. Started fucking with people's stomachs so they blamed gluten instead.

>>508876039
GMOs

>>508868749 (OP)
Lots of other things are carcinogenic that they won't signal as being carcinogenic
-Fiberglass insulation was greenlit because it was shown to be carcinogenic. but less carcinogenic that asbestos (much safer alternative)
-RoundUp is similar to one of the DNA bases and has mutagenic activity
-Chemicals leached from plastic food containers

The cancer industry also depends on an increasing number of diagnoses, so they are incentivized to do everything they can to diagnose as many cases as possible

The tobacco industry appears to have been singled out for attack, while other carcinogens go untouched.
Maybe scapegoating for other industries?

>>508868749 (OP)
the only reason smokers don't die from cancer is because the die from cardiovascular disease first

>>508868749 (OP)
Smoking organic tabacco cannot and should not be compared to smoking industrial waste "filtered" by cheap plastics (cigarettes).

>>508876125
Based RoundUp (agent orange) hater

>>508877458
>The tobacco industry appears to have been singled out for attack, while other carcinogens go untouched
yeah, see >>508873856

>>508869828
man of culture i see

>>508870603
Good reply.

>>508868749 (OP)

Fuck off, kike, I am not paying a gorillion euro per month for yet annudha addiction.