HAPPENING!! SCOTUS ALLOWS DONALD TRUMP TO ENFORCE EO ENDING BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP! - /pol/ (#508909169) [Archived: 752 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: Srs/Qix+United States
6/28/2025, 12:22:46 AM No.508909169
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Contrary to what many jews will say in this thread there is NO RULING from SCOTUS that states that the children of illegal aliens are citizens, that is NOT what the 14th amendment says either and it is NOT what the author of Clause 1 of the 14th amendment says in constitutional record, and it is NOT what SCOTUS precedent says in Wong Kim Ark.

>Here is how it stands today:

1: Constitution says that children of illegals do NOT have citizenship.

2: Precedent set by SCOTUS in Wong Kim Ark states that children of LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENTS have citizenship.

3: The author of 14th Amendment Clause 1 Senator Jacob Howard, specifically excludes the children of illegal aliens from birthright citizenship when he offers his definition of the words "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof"

4: On June 27th, 2025 SCOTUS ruled that the National Injunctions that were placed against Trumps Executive Order were unlawful and thus the Trump Administration was granted the ability in multiple states to enforce his Executive Order on Birthright Citizenship.

>Trumps Executive Order is as follows:
“policy of the United States” to no longer ISSUE or ACCEPT documentation of citizenship in two scenarios: “(1) when [a] person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when [a] person’s mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.”

THEREFORE a ruling is required by SCOTUS NOW to clarify if the children of illegal aliens are covered under the 14th amendment and given all of the historical context and precedent set by previous SCOTUS majority opinions... the answer is CRYSTAL CLEAR that they are NOT protected under the 14th Amendment.
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Anonymous ID: Srs/Qix+United States
6/28/2025, 12:23:49 AM No.508909222
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>As it stands right now:
a child born of illegal migrant parents could be denied Documentation and Citizenship status in Ohio but if that same child were to be born in California that child would be granted citizenship - This disjointed chaos will force SCOTUS to make a ruling on the constitutionality of the 14th Amendment as it pertains to the Children of Illegal Migrants within the year and in the meantime the Trump Administration gets to enforce their Executive Order in any state that doesn't fight them on it such as Texas or Ohio, etc.

>How it should be and likely WILL be interpreted by SCOTUS:
The jurisdiction clause, as originally understood, grants birthright citizenship only to children whose parents have full, exclusive allegiance to the United States. The Constitutional text in history shows that children of illegal aliens and illegal aliens who are in the United States temporarily are not citizens by birthright under
the 14th Amendment.

The drafters of the 14th Amendment understood not to grant citizenship to persons, quote, ‘‘owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.’’ In the first cases decided after ratification, the Supreme Court held that ‘‘jurisdiction’’ in the 14th Amendment means not nearly subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States but completely-but completely-subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.

Of course, illegal aliens and legal temporary United States residents do not owe complete, direct, and immediate allegiance to the United States. Therefore, their children are not citizens by birthright under the 14th Amendment.
Anonymous ID: weyphH61United States
6/28/2025, 12:28:22 AM No.508909532
Tomorrow it'll be back to "federal court halts Trump order."
The next day, "Trump order a go."
etc. ad nauseum
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Anonymous ID: Srs/Qix+United States
6/28/2025, 12:30:58 AM No.508909691
>>508909532
There are no more courts to appeal to, there is no higher court than SCOTUS - The individual cases in the states will still proceed and the statewide injunctions will continue. This will create a disjointed court system where children born to illegals in Boston are handed documentation and proof of citizenship and then the family moves to Texas and the child's documents will be refused because under their state they are following the Executive Order from POTUS this will accelerate the process in which SCOTUS has to make a ruling on the 14th Amendment which is a good thing because they have been punting it for 130+ years!
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Anonymous ID: UoWGmOY9United States
6/28/2025, 12:37:53 AM No.508910120
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Reminder of previous rulings:

Sure—here’s the same text split into separate entries for clarity, still under 1000 characters in total:


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United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898):
A child born in the U.S. is a citizen, even if parents are not citizens.
"Every person born in the United States…becomes at once a citizen."


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Plyler v. Doe (1982):
Undocumented immigrants are still subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
"No plausible distinction…can be drawn."


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INS v. Rios-Pineda (1985):
"There is no question that the child, born in the United States, is a citizen."


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Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (2004):
"The Fourteenth Amendment draws a clear line: persons born in the United States…are citizens."


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Sessions v. Morales-Santana (2017):
"The Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause…declaring that all persons born…are citizens."


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Courts have consistently affirmed birthright citizenship with only narrow exceptions like children of diplomats or enemy occupiers.
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Good luck at congress, Chuds.
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Anonymous ID: Srs/Qix+United States
6/28/2025, 12:39:02 AM No.508910194
>>508910120
>AI generated slop
at least write your own posts, shill.
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Anonymous ID: 5RCPxv7bUnited States
6/28/2025, 12:39:54 AM No.508910250
>>508909532
>federal court halts Trump order
You retard, the Supreme Court mogs every other "judge" in the U.S.
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Anonymous ID: UoWGmOY9United States
6/28/2025, 12:40:21 AM No.508910280
>>508910194
Just had to summarize:>
Anonymous ID: uUVBi1tfUnited States
6/28/2025, 12:40:42 AM No.508910303
>>508909169 (OP)
giga based if it happens
Anonymous ID: qRo20VYzUnited States
6/28/2025, 12:41:25 AM No.508910354
>>508909691
now do same sex marriage
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Anonymous ID: Srs/Qix+United States
6/28/2025, 12:42:06 AM No.508910392
>>508910120
The only one of those that touches on Birthright Citizenship under Clause 1 of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution is Wong Kim.

Stop using AI to think for you, fucking dipshit.
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Anonymous ID: 9vx3eyhcUnited States
6/28/2025, 12:44:55 AM No.508910577
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>>508909169 (OP)
>mfw Vivek can't run for office now
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Anonymous ID: Srs/Qix+United States
6/28/2025, 12:45:35 AM No.508910626
>>508910577
It also fucks with Voter Rolls in like half the country.
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Anonymous ID: 5Icel3R9United States
6/28/2025, 12:46:12 AM No.508910667
>SCOTUS punted birthright citizenship issue

NOTHING EVER HAPPENS
Anonymous ID: UoWGmOY9United States
6/28/2025, 12:50:19 AM No.508910972
>>508910392
They are all jurisprudence. You should use AI or something bro, your head isn't cutting it.
Anonymous ID: 9QJOojRG
6/28/2025, 12:52:07 AM No.508911088
Doesn't affected birthright citizenship. Only injunctions.

Supreme court has effectively turned the US into 94 states via federal districts.

You have to get an injunction in each district now instead of nationwide.

Injunctions against Biden shit that were previously nation wide are now limited to a specific federal district
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Anonymous ID: Ee+WRQXpUnited States
6/28/2025, 12:53:11 AM No.508911158
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>>508910577
Thank God. I'm tired of looking at shitskins pretending to be American to exploit what's left of this country
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Anonymous ID: 9QJOojRG
6/28/2025, 12:54:41 AM No.508911269
If OP could read and comprehend past a 5th grade level they would understand what

>grants Trump’s request to narrow injunctions

doesn't mean

>children of illegals do NOT have citizenship.

Nothing ever happens and IN FACT. Trump just made it 100 TIMES HARDER for something to happen
Anonymous ID: 3ywaoPHeUnited States
6/28/2025, 12:55:16 AM No.508911309
>>508910250
They'll just nullify by refusing to enforce the law. What are the Feds going to do, arrest judges?
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Anonymous ID: skZ8CBqkDenmark
6/28/2025, 12:57:46 AM No.508911495
Democrats will reverse this when George W trump starts a war in iran and loses the election in 2028
Anonymous ID: weyphH61United States
6/28/2025, 12:58:03 AM No.508911515
>>508910250
Go ahead & lock 'em up. How many locked up so far? Oh, that's right, none.
Anonymous ID: YVJwVTTF
6/28/2025, 12:59:09 AM No.508911581
Latinx BTFO, legals are next but first we need to invade Mexico so that the fifth column already inside the USA chimp out and carry out terror attacks for Mexico, then everyone will be against all Latinx.
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Anonymous ID: jqFJciUJUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:00:09 AM No.508911636
>>508909532
They can't do nationwide injunctions anymore. The Supreme Court is the final say
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Anonymous ID: skZ8CBqkDenmark
6/28/2025, 1:01:00 AM No.508911704
>>508911088
>>508911581
Kids born in fornia and york will get the passport every time.
Anonymous ID: 6cyeo4bjCanada
6/28/2025, 1:04:28 AM No.508911928
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>>508910120
mmmmmm Bouncy.
Anonymous ID: zBebVs/oUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:04:36 AM No.508911938
>>508909532
they ended that too in a separate ruling

also they defunded planned parenthood and are sending the cat eaters back to haiti, all these decisions came down just today lol

you're fucked right through
Anonymous ID: bmH8gsOsUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:05:44 AM No.508912013
So blue states will continue to issue state injunctions against this. This will cause them to get flooded with even more illegals in the US since red states won’t protect them. Let’s see how niggere chimp out when their shithole cities are even more over ran by spics
Anonymous ID: zBebVs/oUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:05:55 AM No.508912023
>>508911309
yep

already did, did you forget? you nitwit
Anonymous ID: BRuOVljGUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:09:05 AM No.508912247
>>508911636
They literally can.
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Anonymous ID: zBebVs/oUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:13:13 AM No.508912527
>>508912247
not really, they have to actually sue or appeal directly to the supreme court, after a normal process

it's over, you lost
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6/28/2025, 1:15:29 AM No.508912673
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>>508911309
>What are the Feds going to do, arrest judges?
Correct. Judges can absolutely be arrested for obstruction of justice. They do not have special immunity to prosecution.
Anonymous ID: nAVu7F7ZUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:19:07 AM No.508912923
>>508912527
You may want to look up what "binding precedent" means.
Anonymous ID: Ot6dMLY8United States
6/28/2025, 1:22:07 AM No.508913099
>>508910354
That’s antisemitism and protected under the law.
Anonymous ID: hrU4EP0WMexico
6/28/2025, 1:24:11 AM No.508913231
I dont get the autism of common law. Why you niggers praise your shitty original constitution as a holy document and then let a bunch of boomers making meme hypotheticals questions interpret the document as autistically possible instead of doing real legislation? I mean in the end the autistic legal rambling is ignored by everyone and you just start shouting at each other over political drivel.
Anonymous ID: zZtY6UF9United States
6/28/2025, 1:31:48 AM No.508913725
>>508910120
Whoops, looks like those rulings are going away
Anonymous ID: qRo20VYzUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:36:08 AM No.508914012
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>>508911158
Anonymous ID: BbEh5BfqUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:45:52 AM No.508914664
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>>508910120
Anonymous ID: Uujg7kAqUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:46:17 AM No.508914682
>>508909169 (OP)
>SCOTUS ALLOWS
Those retards don't allow shit, a fucking grand jury of citizens out ranks those morons.
Anonymous ID: A5r2369dUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:50:00 AM No.508914895
>>508909169 (OP)
>OP can't read
Deport OP as well.
Anonymous ID: JVzAMfcAUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:56:37 AM No.508915329
>>508910626
Would be fucking hilarious if half of these sanctuary states implode because their framework of anchor babies become fractured due to retroactive ruling. That would be such a massive happening that part of me believes we will be massively disappointed in a future ruling
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Anonymous ID: r1BOa8omUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:58:58 AM No.508915495
>>508915329
Trump is not gonna stop on this. This issue literally saved his life. He was rough his first term, but he played gentle. The gloves are off now and the other guy is being battered. Completely
Anonymous ID: 5y3uvP3KUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:00:21 AM No.508915597
>>508910120
Yes and illegals are enemy occupiers and will be declared as such. A foreigner who breaks us law and does not turn themselves in is an enemy of the state if they reside in the nations border