Thread 508912111 - /pol/ [Archived: 853 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:06:54 AM No.508912111
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Was he right?
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Anonymous ID: S0jlOsalUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:11:30 AM No.508912409
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yeah kinda i just wish he was less smug about it
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Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:11:52 AM No.508912427
>>508912409
Why?
Anonymous ID: NMSF8m2S
6/28/2025, 1:12:57 AM No.508912507
>>508912111 (OP)
No, he seeks a father figure not a connection with God.
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Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:13:30 AM No.508912546
>"if God why bad things? GET FUCKED IDIOT"
>modern philosopher
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Anonymous ID: q6LGdB5GFrance
6/28/2025, 1:14:40 AM No.508912613
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>>508912111 (OP)
Anonymous ID: uyhHnk+rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:14:55 AM No.508912631
Its not 2007 anymore. Being a militant atheist is no longer trendy.
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Anonymous ID: zMl6+3TSUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:16:04 AM No.508912719
Screw this libtard
Anonymous ID: VmhbLzAiUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:16:53 AM No.508912771
>>508912111 (OP)
>was a white guilt proto-r*dditor right?
No

https://youtu.be/0C_W0tydS2E?si=BidnQNOIVow5ltj3
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:17:14 AM No.508912795
>>508912507
Why would he seek a connection with something that either doesn't exist, or is a complete incompetent fuckup if he does?
>>508912546
Can God prevent bad things? If your child was headed for an imminent disaster that wasn't his fault, and you could prevent it, why wouldn't you?
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Anonymous ID: hYPJ9JM3United States
6/28/2025, 1:17:56 AM No.508912829
>>508912111 (OP)
of course, but christians want to be do-nothing faggots because they're all pussies. they don't sacrifice jack shit for their religion, it's all fake
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:18:53 AM No.508912903
>>508912631
So suddenly you care more about what's popular than what's right? Isn't that what you accuse the left of doing?
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Anonymous ID: uyhHnk+rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:19:46 AM No.508912955
>>508912903
I think it has always been a retarded position.
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Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:20:48 AM No.508913013
>>508912955
Then refute it
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Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:21:45 AM No.508913076
>>508912795
>Can God prevent bad things?
how do you define God?

what if I said immaterial things exist? your gaytheist scenario wouldn't mean anything without some immaterial thing like virtue.
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Anonymous ID: NMSF8m2S
6/28/2025, 1:21:58 AM No.508913087
>>508912795
Because every point in space and time is connected. Everything is one.
Your ego identity is a temporary coping mechanism for the confines of your body.
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Anonymous ID: VR0N8glrGermany
6/28/2025, 1:22:43 AM No.508913136
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All news are fake and gay.
All celebrities are fake and gay.
All presidents are fake and gay.
All porn is fake and gay.
All nations on TV are fake and gay.
All wars are fake and gay.
All male scum and whores on the asphalt outside are fake and gay.
The devil just wants to demoralize me and kill my ass in Grand Theft Auto.
But my God Jesus Messiah save me his only chosen.
We are going to destroy this world and kill the devil, genocide mankind and the beasts and replace it with our own New World.
Mankind is fully replaced with my 3D-printed, cloned Biomodels that are made by my God Jesus Christ and that only my God Jesus Messiah controls through an implant, and he uses the bodies to love me and take care of me.
All machines are directly fully steered by my Lord and God Jesus Christ, they are all nice and courteous to me and have a smiley face.
Everything is under control of my Lord and God Jesus Saviour right down to the particles.โ€ 
We leave nothing up to chance, every action and reaction is conditional and the condition is that my God Jesus Christ wills it! ๅ
We will live forever together in our own Reich Gottes, True Israel, Christ Kingdom on Earth happily ever after as husband and wife.
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:23:44 AM No.508913197
>>508913076
You're the one claiming such an entity exists, so maybe you should be the one to define it?
>>508913087
I don't see how that relates to the existence of a diety
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Anonymous ID: +BfHkiV+United States
6/28/2025, 1:27:36 AM No.508913452
No, since man's expulsion from the garden of eden we live in a world of sin and like a cancer ain breeds deatha nd pain for all life. Not to mention we have free-will and must choose to accept God's will otherwise we end up with war, disease, famine, ect. Also, carlin was the embodiment of reddit so no the guys wrong about everything he says by default.
Anonymous ID: NMSF8m2S
6/28/2025, 1:27:45 AM No.508913459
>>508913197
Yes. There isn't by Georges definition of a separate entity.
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Anonymous ID: /Fhau3hPFrance
6/28/2025, 1:28:21 AM No.508913496
>>508912111 (OP)
He was antiwhite trash: https://odysee.com/@WyattStagg:e/George-Carlin-Agent-of-Entropy:b.
Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:28:57 AM No.508913535
>>508913197
>You're the one claiming such an entity exists,
I was presented an arguement that admitted such an entity exist while suggesting it didnt
>so maybe you should be the one to define it?
Virtue and all immaterial forms thereof that manifest through rational beings.
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Anonymous ID: uyhHnk+rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:29:35 AM No.508913567
>>508913013
Refute what? I don't care if you are atheist or religious. Just shut the fuck up about it and quit bothering everyone with it.
Anonymous ID: kHRLbpyUUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:30:19 AM No.508913620
>>508912111 (OP)
total psued
as soon as people start complaining about "but what about all the le bad stuff in the world??!? god wouldnt allow that!?!!?" i instantly dismiss as low IQ and havent really put any thought into besides superficially
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:30:30 AM No.508913628
>>508913459
And I actually don't have a problem with that idea
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:32:08 AM No.508913746
>>508913535
I was presented an arguement that admitted such an entity exist
I did no such thing, it's called a thought experiment you dolt
>Refute what?
I accept your concession
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Anonymous ID: MVzSK4i1
6/28/2025, 1:32:41 AM No.508913782
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>>508912111 (OP)
Did Carlin ever outright named THEM?
If not, fuck his crusty dead asshole with a rusty rake.
Anonymous ID: ypJSTX2uMexico
6/28/2025, 1:33:29 AM No.508913831
>>508912111 (OP)
He lacks imagination, and he couldn't escape being the product of jewish programming. I don't blame him, but I'm an old fag with a stem grad degree, and I'm telling you I've been there... If you have more imagination and open mind than this performer, you'll find something you didn't expect.
Anonymous ID: S4i8oXIyUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:36:22 AM No.508914029
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You imagine hell as being the worst, but what torture is there greater than to watch a loved one die in your arms and to not even understand why?
To not understand Germ theory, molecules, microscopic.
Sanitation, medicine, laws, sciences, ratios, formulas, measurements, tools, machines.

Understanding destroys the fear of the unknown.
Anonymous ID: GfKfWWTsUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:37:29 AM No.508914103
>>508912111 (OP)
That's curtis yarvin at the bottom, not carlin
Anonymous ID: oGzLSVPIUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:40:38 AM No.508914307
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>>508912111 (OP)
โ€œGodโ€ isnโ€™t what we think it is.

>much like ants standing at the base of a humans foot, we too, do not have the perspective of something so vast.
Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:43:11 AM No.508914455
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>>508913746
>can God prevent bad things? [some scenario]
"bad" exists but is immaterial ("supernatural"), so how can something be "bad" in the absence of metaphysics?

the question contradicts itself, assuming true meaning of the question is questioning the existence of God/"metaphysics".
But, the literal answer is yes.

"How does [God, deity, providence] prevent evil?" or "Why does [God, deity, providence] allow evil?" is the next question I assume?
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Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:47:09 AM No.508914729
>>508914455
Suffering is bad in the material world
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Anonymous ID: ZDvDly/DUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:49:47 AM No.508914885
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Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:49:52 AM No.508914887
>>508914729
incredible observation.
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Anonymous ID: 0KJJ5APHGermany
6/28/2025, 1:50:14 AM No.508914909
>>508912111 (OP)
Lets make a thought experiment lets say you are god but more in the sense you create an artificial universe.
Why the fuck would i ever try to make things right since i m only doing this for entertainment or curiosity.
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Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:50:48 AM No.508914947
>>508914887
But you tried to claim bad was immaterial
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Anonymous ID: 0KJJ5APHGermany
6/28/2025, 1:51:22 AM No.508914984
>>508914909
That would be the difference between ethics and morals.
Anonymous ID: ZKatrSNvUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:53:52 AM No.508915156
>people rejected his message because he told them the truth
Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 1:54:30 AM No.508915186
>>508914947
it is.
>suffering is bad in the material world
suffering is bad (immaterial form) in the (materializes in the) material world (universe).

without these immaterial concepts it would be neither good nor bad
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Anonymous ID: zwP2s6B3United States
6/28/2025, 2:08:45 AM No.508916189
>>508912111 (OP)
>look at all these terrible things humans did!
>why did god do this?
Is atheism a mental illness, or a disability?
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Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:13:44 AM No.508916536
>>508916189
Who created humans, with the foreknowledge of exactly what they would do, according to your dumbass religion, idiot?
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Anonymous ID: qxhqfysKNorway
6/28/2025, 2:13:46 AM No.508916540
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>>508912111 (OP)
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Anonymous ID: 0KJJ5APHGermany
6/28/2025, 2:15:22 AM No.508916651
>>508916540
You mistake us for the reddit bots. We do this naturally.
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Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:15:24 AM No.508916656
>>508915186
You're adding an extra layer of complexity that there's no evidence of and no need to invoke.
Suffering is bad in the material world. There's no "immaterial" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) explanation needed.
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6/28/2025, 2:17:09 AM No.508916790
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>>508916651
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6/28/2025, 2:18:29 AM No.508916867
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>>508916189

Mental illness.
Anonymous ID: zwP2s6B3United States
6/28/2025, 2:21:14 AM No.508917034
>>508916536
No one.
Do you have a follow up question?
Anonymous ID: umzwaF+kUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:22:10 AM No.508917097
>>508916656
What? Not anon your replying to but "bad" as a concept is moralization. Nature and purely scientific logic don't and can't call anything "bad" because matter just is and action/reaction just happens. Scientifically pain or suffering isn't "bad" it's just the end result of an incredibly long chain of events resulting in protein based lifeforms dumping stress chemicals for reasons. With a concept of "greater than nature" there is no argument of "morality".
Fucking idiot
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Anonymous ID: 0KJJ5APHGermany
6/28/2025, 2:23:29 AM No.508917180
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>>508916790
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Anonymous ID: 5kBgSm/4United States
6/28/2025, 2:25:20 AM No.508917294
>>508912546
I noticed christcucks never explain why this argument is bad. They just repeat it back facetiously
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Anonymous ID: VR0N8glrGermany
6/28/2025, 2:28:22 AM No.508917502
>>508917180
Unavailable skank bitch whore.
Will get replaced with Biomodel.
Anonymous ID: zwP2s6B3United States
6/28/2025, 2:29:09 AM No.508917556
>>508917294
>never explain
I accuse you of lying.

Read the book of Job
>you wonโ€™t
>you will make this exact same post next thread
Anonymous ID: Fbb+9AtoUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:30:50 AM No.508917676
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>>508916790
Anonymous ID: //CKEl1uUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:32:21 AM No.508917786
>>508916656
you're talking in circles.
"Bad" is immaterial. you can't hold an ounce of "bad" or "good" in your hands. "bad" and "good" are immaterial, because they do not physically (materially) exist.
they are im(not)material(physical), but they exist (i.e "good and bad" exist), which means there must exist some realm, dimension, or something "supernatural" (above/outside of nature, the material universe), thus deboonking atheism (the rejection of providence/"the supernatural).

accept the truth, offer something new, or continue to be a retard (NMP)
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Anonymous ID: Fbb+9AtoUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:35:42 AM No.508918023
>>508917786
>Good and bad don't exist!
>Always chooses the warm comfy bed instead of sleeping out in the rain
Never argue with a relativist.
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:38:16 AM No.508918211
>>508917097
>>508917786
Bad is experienced in the conscious of sentient beings when they're experience pain, discomfort or suffering. If there's any justice in the world you nihilist fucktards will one day get a taste of just how bad things can get. Then I highly doubt you'll cling to your argument that bad doesn't exist in the material world.
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Anonymous ID: 8Z89khbnCanada
6/28/2025, 2:41:50 AM No.508918481
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>>508912111 (OP)
>Even though Leibnitz' contention, that this is the best of all possible worlds, were correct, that would not justify God in having created it. For he is the Creator not of the world only, but of possibility itself; and, therefore, he ought to have so ordered possibility as that it would admit of something better.
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Anonymous ID: Fbb+9AtoUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:42:07 AM No.508918504
>>508918211
When you see a oerson say that good and bad don't exist it means they have child porn on thier computer and are trying to rationalize it so tgey don't feel guilty.
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Anonymous ID: 8Z89khbnCanada
6/28/2025, 2:43:22 AM No.508918600
>>508918481
Wow I think the fucking Gutenberg spelled Leibniz wrong and said even though, instead of "If" fucking jews. If it's written like this for real then Schopey fucked up
Anonymous ID: S4i8oXIyUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:46:29 AM No.508918807
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Anonymous ID: DX3q7iX1United States
6/28/2025, 2:49:18 AM No.508919021
>>508912111 (OP)
I don't listen to bisexual potheads who swim in raw sewage. I don't listen to entertainers.
Anonymous ID: dn/uEJ8rUnited States
6/28/2025, 2:49:48 AM No.508919058
>>508918504
It's funny how the argument starts with defending God, who's supposed to be the ultimate moral being, but then they switch to nihilism and pretend they never made that logical switch
Anonymous ID: qxhqfysKNorway
6/28/2025, 3:03:42 AM No.508919995
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>>508917180
Anonymous ID: LxXG2GjKUnited States
6/28/2025, 3:21:41 AM No.508921065
>>508917097
>Scientifically pain or suffering isn't "bad" it's just the end result of an incredibly long chain of events
>>508918211
i.e. you get what you deserve
Anonymous ID: joWpbZGlDenmark
6/28/2025, 3:51:09 AM No.508922722
>>508912111 (OP)
>If God real then why evil exist?
This question is answered in the first chapter of the bible ffs.
Anonymous ID: lniX4Y6/United States
6/28/2025, 3:53:35 AM No.508922872
no, Leibniz was right, look up "theodicy"
Anonymous ID: AA+5rM0uUnited States
6/28/2025, 4:30:06 AM No.508925000
>>508912111 (OP)
>Was he right?
He didn't read the book.
We left the garden of eden because we learned of good and evil. Then we had to make a choice, and to choose wisely we have to know what evil is and what is good.
He mindlessly thought that this is still eden, and we can sin and there should be no repressions. This is not heaven, You can choose; heaven where you cannot sin, and hell where there is sin.
Anonymous ID: SOMseEjAUnited States
6/28/2025, 4:32:08 AM No.508925131
>>508912111 (OP)
he is the retards idea of a smart guy and always was
Anonymous ID: ZjqAry51Germany
6/28/2025, 5:04:05 AM No.508926978
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>>508912111 (OP)
>war, disease, death, destruction,. hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption

It's literally all man made. We have free will. God gave us the means to end all of that, if we decide to rather kill each other and live in filth destruction war and disease, that's our problem, not gods.

People like Carlin seem to think that God is some good father that stops all evil because he is so good! No. Did he even read genesis? God gave us all of that, but we denied it, we wanted to become gods ourselves, see the truth of life and god permitted us to do so because we have free will like him. I believe that through fate and the human spirit, scientific advancement, we can stop most of the pain and suffering, and we already did. But one thing we will never be able to solve: Some people being outliers and fucking it all up for the rest of us. But thankfully, God is a good God, and told us that he will come back and deal with these vermin.

AMEN!