Thread 509035399 - /pol/ [Archived: 791 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: 26X4+KP8
6/29/2025, 3:34:28 PM No.509035399
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>muh Trump's "big, beautiful bill"!
>poorly educated MAGA dumb fucks voted for this
lmao, even.
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Anonymous ID: fPtDTiz1
6/29/2025, 3:36:01 PM No.509035486
>>509035399 (OP)
They will cope by pretending they are rich lmao
Anonymous ID: +ArEh5k5Finland
6/29/2025, 3:37:37 PM No.509035586
>>509035399 (OP)
Americans don't pay tariffs and those that do are mostly rich. Poor people can just buy domestic goods, they don't need a intalian made super car
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Anonymous ID: Yg0wwRXKUnited States
6/29/2025, 3:38:00 PM No.509035612
>fucking oligarch drumpf reeee
[NYC elects a socialist]
>AHHHH WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS EXTREMISM YOU CAN NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER TAKE RICH PEOPLE'S MONEY
Anonymous ID: G06WXY8QUnited States
6/29/2025, 3:45:28 PM No.509036076
>>509035399 (OP)
You faggots said this last time and i got a significant tax cut.
Anonymous ID: lxRbE+TFGermany
6/29/2025, 3:46:31 PM No.509036146
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>>509035586
there is a gigantic misconception on what the US imports from Europe, a huge chunk is medical products (depending on the source it's around 20-21% of all imports). One large import from Europe to the USA are blood-fractions for example. And the poor are more often sick and need more medication than the rich.
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Anonymous ID: JFkakBunUnited States
6/29/2025, 3:48:54 PM No.509036297
>>509035399 (OP)
need more spending cuts
do away with all food programs, americans are too fat
Anonymous ID: +ArEh5k5Finland
6/29/2025, 3:49:30 PM No.509036337
>>509036146
Poor don't pay for their own health costs in america and stuff on that list is something americans can make domestically, the new jobs for making what ever bits and bobs you need for xray equipment benefit the poor the most.
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Anonymous ID: AvJQb9H1
6/29/2025, 3:51:03 PM No.509036435
>>509035399 (OP)
would be bad if it was true
Anonymous ID: xFUwbDwm
6/29/2025, 3:51:07 PM No.509036437
>>509035399 (OP)
>He thinks that senile fuck wrote that novel of a bill
Anonymous ID: R/bjxv8ZLebanon
6/29/2025, 3:52:39 PM No.509036537
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>>509035399 (OP)
>it makes the libruls seethe I'm for it
Anonymous ID: +bGUPYxe
6/29/2025, 3:54:30 PM No.509036659
>>509035586
Tariffs mostly affect the poor because they can only afford imported goods.
You are a laughable clown
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Anonymous ID: +ArEh5k5Finland
6/29/2025, 3:56:30 PM No.509036786
>>509036659
Poor people spend vast majority of their income on food, transit and housing all of which are 100% domestic if you want them to. Buy american grown food (easy), live in an american built house (basically guaranteed) and ride in an american buss, train or buy an american car which again is guaranteed.
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Anonymous ID: Bw3vtwcmUnited States
6/29/2025, 3:59:07 PM No.509036949
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>>509036786
>transit
>food
>100% domestic
Yeah lemme just buy some American coffee bro or the famous 100% American cars with no imported parts since there's so many of those.
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Anonymous ID: eSFGv/cdUnited States
6/29/2025, 4:00:57 PM No.509037065
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>>509035399 (OP)
I have the same experience. Most republicans I know (friends, coworkers, neighbours) have all told me they regret voting for Trump. He promised lower egg prices, and instead got us into a trade war with our allies, women's and LGBTQ+ rights abolished, a billionaire has seized control of private citizen's data and federal funds, our military is about to invade Gaza (so much for no new wars lel), he's appointed literal traitors to his cabinet, armed ICE agents are raiding schools and children's hospitals, and EGG PRICES HAVENT GONE DOWN.
I know it's hard to admit you're wrong, but Trump is literally one of the biggest mistakes in American history.
Anonymous ID: +ArEh5k5Finland
6/29/2025, 4:01:06 PM No.509037080
>>509036949
Just don't buy coffee if you can't afford it. You don't actually need to drink coffee.
>100% American cars with no imported parts since there's so many of those.
If a vanishing amount of your spending goes to a tariff (that again americans don't pay, tariffs are mostly paid by the foreign supplier to retain market share) then you in fact are not paying tariffs at all and the tax cuts more than make up for it.
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Anonymous ID: 0cXjBYenUnited States
6/29/2025, 4:01:50 PM No.509037131
>>509035399 (OP)
>Source: Yale Budget Lab

Imagine trusting the CIA
Anonymous ID: Y+JlZFwl
6/29/2025, 4:03:07 PM No.509037209
This is good
The problem is that there isn't enough wealth at the top for it to trickle down and this fixes that
Anonymous ID: lxRbE+TFGermany
6/29/2025, 4:03:07 PM No.509037210
>>509036337
Even if the poor don't pay a cent for their medical care (it's way more complicated than that), it just means the public pays for it. How long do you think it will take the US to build a 59 billion dollar blood fraction-industry and how many people from the Hood or some town in Appalachia will be employed in those industries as medical technicians or engineers building x-ray machines?
Can there be a net benefit in the long-term for the very poor, maybe, yes: You need more truck drivers, janitors, plumbers, cafeteria staff, security, etc as well for every new high tech-factory/lab opening in the united states, but in the next few years, that's a massive additional cost with almost no benefit to the poor.
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Anonymous ID: +ArEh5k5Finland
6/29/2025, 4:05:23 PM No.509037359
>>509037210
>it just means the public pays for it.
And who do you think the "public" is. It's certainly not the poors that also don't pay taxes since they you know are poor.
>and how many people from the Hood or some town in Appalachia
America has millions of unemployed whites, exact the same type that work in the factories to make the blood fractions in where ever they are made right now.
>that's a massive additional cost with almost no benefit to the poor.
Poor don't pay for their medical costs so thats in fact not a additional cost to them.
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Anonymous ID: Y6Vz6SEIUnited States
6/29/2025, 4:05:32 PM No.509037369
>>509037080
How you fucking kill yourself you fucking lemming
Anonymous ID: t61l9mz/United States
6/29/2025, 4:06:40 PM No.509037453
>>509035399 (OP)
$1m a year W2 household here, The only thing we get out of this is keeping the tax rates we already have. This bill does pretty much nothing for me.
Anonymous ID: cM9pTu8aUnited States
6/29/2025, 4:06:49 PM No.509037463
>>509035399 (OP)
rich people know how to manage their affairs ie their PERSONs
Anonymous ID: XCECSNIRUnited States
6/29/2025, 4:08:35 PM No.509037574
>>509035399 (OP)
you were also lied to that the tax cuts he passed last time "wouldn't help the poor". They literally did, and gave most of us an extra $1500 to $2500 in standard deduction that we otherwise would have had to lie/cheat to get.
>All you libtards do is lie and/or unknowningly repeat lies your masters tell you to repeat.
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Anonymous ID: 8OdJp2QaFrance
6/29/2025, 4:10:41 PM No.509037706
>>509035399 (OP)
Yes they don't read policy at all. To them it's just cape shit, a zero sum game. I dunno how you could WANT higher grocery and gas prices then turn right around on here an whine about what you chose for yourself???
Anonymous ID: jx+0xNLbUnited States
6/29/2025, 4:10:46 PM No.509037714
>>509035399 (OP)
Go away memeflaggot
Anonymous ID: lxRbE+TFGermany
6/29/2025, 4:24:45 PM No.509038629
>>509037359
your main assumption is two-fold: A) poor people in the USA pay $0 in medical expenses from their own pocket, which is a dubious claim to me, especially because the USA is notorious for medical costs. Maybe some Americans can weigh in on this.

and B) that poor people mainly if not almost exclusively consume domestic produce etc, which isn't true at all. (And tariffs make domestic production more expensive also) Your answer was, that they have to change their consumer behavior accordingly then, which is a fair point but IS a quality of life reduction no matter how you twist it: If you can't afford the same amount and kind of stuff you bought just 2 years ago.
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Anonymous ID: 2oPi6jwoPoland
6/29/2025, 4:26:02 PM No.509038696
>>509036146
Literally bleeding the EU dry to save obese, dysgenic Amerimutt lives. Holy fuckin kek
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Anonymous ID: lxRbE+TFGermany
6/29/2025, 4:26:47 PM No.509038754
>>509038696
I know, right.
Anonymous ID: 2oPi6jwoPoland
6/29/2025, 4:27:44 PM No.509038810
>>509037574
I was surprised at the tax credits I got last year, both state and federal. They refunded all payroll taxes plus all sales taxes that I paid while living in the USA. Not a dime out of my pocket for Israel, yep yep
Anonymous ID: Tqm7/MB3United States
6/29/2025, 4:43:57 PM No.509039911
>>509035399 (OP)
define deciles. what is a decile? why have i never ever seen an economic breakdown that goes by deciles before?
Anonymous ID: +ArEh5k5Finland
6/29/2025, 4:45:55 PM No.509040023
>>509038629
Poor people can't afford medical care, if it gets more expensive that doesn't change their situation in any way. US government foots that bill already, that's why they spend so much on medical care. The size of medicare and medicaid payments should demonstrate that fact. More over again tariffs aren't paid by the consumer which is price sensitive but by the supplier to keep up market share. More over medical expenses of the poor make up a vanishingly small share of their spending vastly dwarfed by the tax breaks they are getting.

>that poor people mainly if not almost exclusively consume domestic produce
They objectively do or at least should be. There's no reason for poor person to eat foreign foods when US is the #supplier of food, especially when US is supplier of important foods like meat and dairy so it's not even some kind of onions cuck argument. Poor people aren't ordering their log cabin from Finland (you should they are great) they live in an american made house in america. Poor people ride a buss that's driven by an american from a location in america to another location in america. These are all fundamentally domestic goods.

>but IS a quality of life reduction
Poor people get a tax break which increases their quality of life actually, the jobs that they get as a result of tariffs and the extra government revenue is a major increase in their quality of life.
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Anonymous ID: t61l9mz/United States
6/29/2025, 5:00:00 PM No.509040900
>>509040023
>Poor people can't afford medical care,
What if they just hurry up and die then? They're obviously not doing anything beneficial to the rest of society, they're a drain.
Anonymous ID: MUfK5BlFUnited States
6/29/2025, 5:23:41 PM No.509042409
what is ice doing in your state aside from picking the worst possible people to go after and cause protests against them
>>509035399 (OP)
duh its called BBB for a reason. its build back better aka a continuation of the great reset. looking forward to owning nothing and being happy. at least we are getting deportations. oh wait we are not.