At last, punk music has come full circle

>>509044606 (OP)
Punk is against authority you dumb inbread Anglo

>>509044687
It's not anything, it's devoid of any clear message

they got drunk too much. basically all the time. their windfall of tour money went to beer, whisky, vodka, gin

>>509044687
>>509044838
>>509044606 (OP)
stop associating and reducing music to political tools. music is and always has been about the melody first, the lyrics and message secondary.

>>509044606 (OP)
punk was the pre-social media way of attention whoring through scandal
no message, no values, nothing
just LOOOK AT MEEEE (and give me a record label contract pls)

>>509044606 (OP)
Shock values. Sid was a degenerate and op is a wanker

>>509044898
I think in Sid's case, the money went on heroin. There's a theory that him and Nancy owed money to drug dealers, so the dealers killed Nancy and framed Sid.

>>509044606 (OP)
that guy had nothing to do with punk "music"

>>509045082
so pretty much the same as today then

>>509045421
yes only we have the information superhighway now which makes scandalizing easier but also cheaper

>>509045374
>that guy had nothing to do with punk "music"
he epitomizes "punk music", just another product that the major labels could sell to the naive masses. stupid kids still buy the same uniform and get the same haircut to this day

>>509045086
>Shock values
lol, the whole thing was a marketing ploy by malcolm mclaren & vivienne westwood

>>509045550
back in the day you had to sew the band patches on yourself
and you put your hair up with sugar water
today it comes ready with free shipping and there's a "product" for your hair

>>509044687
Punk was about trolling before the internet existed, which is why it became industry-shilled and mainstream when the internet showed up.

>>509045689
>back in the day you had to sew the band patches on yourself
you still had to send your girlfriend in to blow the manager or the club owner or the record executive; nothing ever changes

>>509045550
no he doesn't. he wasn't a musician he was a fan they hired to stand and hold a bass after they fired the real bass player.

>>509045728
>industry-shilled and mainstream when the internet showed up.
it was industry shilled from the very beginning. you think those sex pistols and ramones records printed and distributed themselves in 1977? lmfao

A we back on swastikas and heroin again?

Top notch

>>509045831
>no he doesn't. he wasn't a musician he was a fan they hired
john lydon was "hired" because he wore an "i hate pink floyd shirt" at vivienne westwood's store
they were a marketing product--just like the fucking MONKEES you dumb simp

>>509044988
Punk isn't just about music though.

>>509044687
>authority floods your community with brown illegals and hands them money
>punk is against this

>>509045963
Lydon was a singer, he sang songs and wrote lyrics and is on the records and played shows.

>>509044687
No it's not. Punk is being based and redpilled.

>>509045100
kek. seems reasonable

>>509044606 (OP)
The left and punk aligning with Islam has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever witnessed.

>>509046011
>Lydon was a singer
he was a fucking street kid with green teeth. he was HIRED to front Malcom McLaren's british vision of the NEW YORK DOLLS after they broke up under HIS MANAGEMENT
jfc, is anyone here old enough to read?

>>509045815
kek

It wasn't just Sid, many punks used Nazi attire at the time.
Also, Clapton and David Bowie made positive remarks about Fascism, they even created Rock Against Racism because of this.

>>509046218
yes, and he sang the songs and performed and later sang and performed in other bands. you are quite dumb.

>>509046499
>yes, and he sang the songs and performed and later sang and performed in other bands. you are quite dumb.
so did sid vicious, with a backing band like lydon
they were hired to fill a role, it's nice that they got work after that role ended but you're naive as fuck

>>509046297
>Also, Clapton and David Bowie made positive remarks about Fascism,
clapton was drunk as fuck when he made those positive remarks and bowie was on a diet of cocaine, milk and peppers at the time, and later married a somali, but OK buddy

>>509046297
>It wasn't just Sid, many punks used Nazi attire at the time.
they weren't nazis, they were just trying to piss off their parents/grandparents in a different way than the hippies

>>509046836
no, sid vicious did not have the same situation. try looking it up

>>509046836
the key difference is that the members hired to play in Sex Pistols - experienced or not - actually did so. They made songs and played them live and had success, which made them musicians. you have to start somewhere. Sid did not do this. Maybe he would have some day, but he did not in real life.

>>509044838
Music for children who were molested and without fathers.

>>509044687
Now please present your vaxxpass or you can't come to our show

>>509047251
>no, sid vicious did not have the same situation. try looking it up
after the last pistols show, mclaren kept the swindle running with Sid. after recording the cover of "My Way", they assembled a backing band and played shows in NYC. the other two "employees" of course recorded "Belsen Was a Gas" and with Ronnie Biggs.
it was all a scam. a swindle. they fucking told you right up front. lmfao

Sid the Nancy and Jonny Bottom.

>>509047358
>Sid did not do this.
Sid toured with the Pistols, not Matlock.
McLaren wanted a british version of the New York Dolls. Westood wanted to sell clothes. This is actual fucking history, dumbass.

>>509047358
it has been a long road to get back to this though

Image GG Allin being political

"With GG, you don't get what you expect—you get what you deserve"

>>509045689
We used to use dog shit as our hair gel , it was free and smelled like shit !

>>509044606 (OP)
his manager and girlfriend were jewish. it was just timely culturally offensive thing on a shirt to get a reaction. if this was modern day he would be wearing a star of david shirt with a dead baby

>>509048005
>it was just timely culturally offensive thing on a shirt to get a reaction.
just like when the beatles insulted the war veteran in hard day's night; then john married a jap to really fuck with the oldsters

>>509048005
>his manager and girlfriend were jewish
his manager had also already tried to market wearing the hammer & sickle while he managed the new york dolls, and THAT didn't work...sooooo

>>509044606 (OP)
The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, The Clash, all those "essential" punk rock bands are as punk as Backstreet Boys and whatever K-pop groups whose names I don't know.

If they weren't assembled by a (((music producer))) purely for their looks, they otherwise sold out to the first major record label that they could, and generally were only in it for the fame. Their big cultural legacy is now being karaoke songs for Gen Xers and actual boomers at Christmas office parties, and sometimes being used in 15 second commercials used to sell handbags or energy drinks.

Johnny Rotten should have joined the 27 club as well, he became such a stupid cunt over the decades writing books about poetry appearing all over the BBC claiming to be "working class".

>>509046218
the dolls were rigged to explode from the beginning tho. idk if that was on malcom (tho there IS a pattern there). it was probably mostly just them all being junkie shitbag NYers lol

>>509044606 (OP)
If a white artist made the same song, it would be punk, rock, and metal and universally praised.

Because a black man said
>HEIL HITLER
All the kikes lost their mind.

The kikes don't support the blacks if they step out of line.

>>509047225
>white supremacist with an ethnic wife
Wouldnt be unheard of

>>509048844
>, The Clash,
oh yeah don't forget Joe Strummer's dad was a literal glowie, lol

>>509049225
>white supremacist with an ethnic wife
white supremacist bisexual drug addict, get it right

>>509046949
well duh she was like a princess of abyssynia or some shit
that was the right call. if things worked out better that wouldve been a kingdom of somalia under king bowie I
clearly a better timeline than this one

>>509049397
>well duh she was like a princess of abyssynia or some shit
it was a step up from fucking mick jagger, i'll agree.

>>509049063
nah skinhead bands dont even do that well in most punk circuits, really
its a niche of a niche
same with the rly political lefty punk bands. they get clowned on outside of their bubbles often

>If a white artist made the same song,
it prolly wouldnt have shitty MIDI horns in it
thats the difference. black musicians are just held to ludicrously low standards nowadays. enough to make even the dumbest punker blush

It's funny how politics even ruins music.

Take the most lefty punk band like Crass and the music is objectively bad.

Go to the right wing extreme with all the nazi bands like Skrewdriver and again it's amateur shit.

It only appeals to whoever is already leaning towards being a racist or a feminist vegan and serves as an echo chamber for their respective ideologies.