Only 16% still accept this doctrine. The nutjob with the "Yahweh" tattoo who crucified that pastor also denounced the trinity. What’s causing this?

https://www.arizonachristian.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/AWVI-2025_03_Most-Americans-Reject-the-Trinity_FINAL_03_26_2025.pdf

>>509051455 (OP)
You have to admit, it does sound batshit crazy.

It's a khabbalah seed, made stupid so you don't use it and grow it into its long form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN5lvSoICOI

You learn about that path, and you learn about the people who created religion and God in the first place, to beguile mens minds and separate them from the power that comes from their own hand, to make them slaves and us Gods.

The daddy the son and the spooky ghost

>>509051455 (OP)
The idea isn't adequately explained for a 21st century audience. In fact, none of the ideas Christianity offers are.

HOCUS <> POCUS <> ETCETERA

Who the fuck cares about mutt religion? You are receivers, not creators of big ideas

Seems like a bunch of semantics.

God is the Father and the Holy Spirit; they manifest each other. And Jesus is the physical, flesh incarnation of God. God is omniscient but it's not unreasonable to assume He can occupy vessels that are not omniscient.

So, I basically believe in the trinity, but I'm not worried about the semantics or logical absolutes.

>>509051455 (OP)
American Christians are barely Christians. Boomers in the US lost sight of the faith.

>>509051873
I'd say most, if not all, of the moral teachings of the New Testament are applicable to modern life. The wage of sin is death and it shows.

Best I can make out it was trigonometry for students 3500 years before the trig you learned about in high school got to where it was.

A tripod can hold two legs fixed while the other moves to isolate new intelligence.

So the ideas are good, but they're between 3500 and 5500 years old. They were teaching calculus of multiple variables back before the greeks hammered it out. And it came in the form of Church teaching Trinity.

>>509051992
This isn't trinity. This is heresy.

>>509051455 (OP)
The father = creator/Reality
The Son = mushroom
Holy ghost = spirit of the mushroom transforming you into the father, ie GOD the I AM

>>509051455 (OP)
I've never met a Christian in America who read the Bible cover to cover or even the New Testament.
They get their theology from their dispensationalist pastor, The Chosen tv series, and facebook posts.

If Y = 3 + X

And Y is 5, then solve for X. And how do you know? What Motions are authorized given your context?

Trinity is 5500 year old Algebra.

Trinity is just Catholics teaching "trig of the unit circle", "logic, set theory", "probability and its isolation from observation", "statistics and how to collect it and infer new conclusive truths", "algebra of a single variable and how to move objects across an equals sign", and a dozen other similar mathematical topics such as the transitive property of truth, of function, of identity, of usage, and the fundamental nature of truth and if you can even have it at all. Using the ONLY words they had to work with: using divine and spiritual godlanguage, 2, 4, nay 7 thousand years before these things were formalized into the modern invention you call "school".

The student who comes by after class and says: "Surly this trinity idea you blast into everyone's face is imperfect since I can prove it with these transforms" the priest gets to shout: "Sinner! Heretic!" but then in the back room, collects up this one into the power stations, congradulations, you're smart enough to cut through the bullshit, and I want you on $ourteam for the win.

>>509052360

"Trinity" was the Church's name for Linear algebra, Trigonometry and Evolutionary Engine of the vertebrate biped mammal-class 1300 to 3500 years before schools were first invented. Trinity was basically the priest teaching people about Geometry, Truth logic of a single variable, and the transitive property of variable math Thousands of years before such things were fully isolated in education classes.

When you have a chair you have (1) yourself which is an observer with a goal (something to sit on), (2) the substance without a form (wood, nails), and (3) the transformative connection between the two that renders the object perception (The isolated model nail-wood = something to sit on, something animals don't do). In other words, the chair has 3 properties: the substance of an object, the performer of a function, and the relationship between the two that forms the identity relation, you need a model to life function from form, algebraically.

This is also how the trinity works: God the Father is the substance of every object, the Son performs a function, and the Holy Spirit is the transformative connection that causes the Father and the Son to be in a constant state of ascension in "meaning". This isn't to say the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit aren't one and the same, or that they are different. The Christ is the universal pattern of self-similarity which is why the Son and the Father are equal (think of the Jungian Self and the Ego being in perfect harmony).
TLDR: Catholics were teaching Trigonometry in Syria-Palestina 1600 years before the isolation and invention of Trigonomotry today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw

One, Nothing wrong with me. Two, nothing wrong with me. Three. Nothing wrong with me. Four. Nothing wrong with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw

>>509052200
You're worried more about the letter of the law than the spirit.

>>509051455 (OP)
They dont want you to feel the spirits of your ancestors coarsing through your veins

>>509052284
You need to get out of the basement.

>>509051455 (OP)
You dont know what a messiah is. Jesus IS THE CHRIST, THE MESSIAH and he didnt die dangling on a stick like you say
Messiahs are supposed to live not die. Jesus is a man and hes been alive for 2000 years. Help jesus the mortal messiah

Many Christians are utterly appaling to jesus, they always want jesus to save them, jesus needs saving himself thats what a messiah is for , save the messiah, save yourself while saving the messiah, a messiah doesnt have a magic wand to save people. Thats not how a messiah works. Stop doing blood drinking and flesh eating rituals, you mock jesus when you do that. The man is trying to be a messiah, save him, let him get a wife and a life thats he deserves being a good messiah and all. Help jesus

Jesus needs to beat the antichrist and youre saying he died and that thats a good thing. How is jesus gonna be a messiah if hes dead? He wont obviously

How can you even talk yourself out of that. Impossible. Jesus is a man and jesus needs saving. Jesus is still alive for 2000 years thanks allah

>>509051455 (OP)
zoomer here, wtf is the trinity?

are 30+ years old boomers really that insane?

ahahahahaha

The Bible-Scriptural idea of Trinity was just Catholics trying to explain and teach their followers the Transitive property of mathematics at the high school level. You re-isolated the Pythagorean theorem from first principles. Instead of having better names, and calling these things "Discrete Mathematics", "Set Theory", "Logic 101" or "algebra of a single variable" (These ideas wouldn't get hammered down until thousands of years later, they had to get by with the best they could get, in divinity-school where priests taught the lie that the Transitive property does not hold. One student would come by after class and say: "Rabbi Surely the transitive property does hold, here I can prove it beyond all doubt with this little experiment". Rejoice the satanic brainfog in this one has finally lifted.

The transitive property is basically:
Old-school it was thought that a man who figures out the truth after being told a lie will be smarter than the man told the truth and believing it because first pass makes perfect sense.

Trigonometry was first hammered out by a Catholic who admitted that he used the Biblical idea of the Trinity as a starting point for the process of discovering the mathematics of temporal logic and the discovery and isolation of the transitive property of algebra and the probability of causality.

God visited man in his image and came by prematurely to see how his experiment was going along. The Cro Magnon asked: "Why did you make me"? And God was like ah jeez now I have to answer, so he answered the best he could with the explanation of Trinity.
Here's an MIT professor trying to explain trinity as superposition, back in Biblical times, it was uncertain that Truth existed in an absolute state, since they knew about superposition way back then.
https://youtu.be/lZ3bPUKo5zc?t=636

God whispered into ear of monkey before he stepped back into his eyeball portal.

So these schizos are almost all bots at this point right?
Just IDF trying to pollute the board with insane ramblings so people are put off this place
Jannies need to step it up

Clergy says on day one: hoy oh yoyo A==B.
Clergy says on day two: hoy oh yoyo B==C.
Clergy says on day three hoy oh yoyo A != C

Everyone leaves on day three unmoved. But one student in the mass comes back and says: "But Rabbi, what you've said contradicts itself".

The Rabbi says: Oy Vey, God has chosen this one for the profession of correcting things that are not correct. My lecture on trinity finally landed.

>>509051455 (OP)
No one wants to be Christian.
this is the End Times. When the last soul is harvested, then the rest of the dross is thrown into the pit of fire.

I guess it's only okay when sheboons do it?
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3velqy9rzo
Fuck the C of E.

>>509053252
I have met many real life people who go deep into these schizo ramblings, arguing on either side of these beliefs. I have more normal, socially adjusted people as well.

I swear, the most vocal atheists I encounter have a very strong belief system in the contrary, instead of simply disbelief. They are as mouth foaming mad as a spanish inquisitor. Don't get me wrong, I have also met theists who were so deep into their belief that they did all but self flagellate.
No matter what you believe (or not) in, our goal should be to elevate mankind, not justify ruin.

>>509051455 (OP)
>it’s another flux capacitor thread

>>509052284
Can't meet people if you don't go outside anon

The mortal mind can immediately think of a thousand and one things—catastrophic physical events, appalling accidents, horrific disasters, painful illnesses, and world-wide scourges—and ask whether such visitations are correlated in the unknown maneuvering of this probable functioning of the Supreme Being. Frankly, we do not know; we are not really sure. But we do observe that, as time passes, all these difficult and more or less mysterious situations always work out for the welfare and progress of the universes. It may be that the circumstances of existence and the inexplicable vicissitudes of living are all interwoven into a meaningful pattern of high value by the function of the Supreme and the overcontrol of the Trinity.

As a son of God you can discern the personal attitude of love in all the acts of God the Father. But you will not always be able to understand how many of the universe acts of the Paradise Trinity redound to the good of the individual mortal on the evolutionary worlds of space. In the progress of eternity the acts of the Trinity will be revealed as altogether meaningful and considerate, but they do not always so appear to the creatures of time.

https://urantiapedia.org/en/home

Jesus says to worship God alone.

Of all the people who are most receptive to Islam.

I believe it will be the true and faithful Christians who love God.

They will realize that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a good tree who bears good fruits.

The Koran praises Jesus Christ, saying that Jesus came with the Holy Spirit to give us the Gospel. Those who love Jesus and believe the Gospel will find relief and comfort in Islam.

Jesus is innawoods
He prays
"Hello father, it's me, you."

>>509051455 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

>>509051455 (OP)
Actual "trinity"

>>509051455 (OP)
american christians worship jews and the old testament only.

>>509051455 (OP)
Americans ruined Christianity for the rest of us. We need to return to hyper-VIOLENT Paganism now to clean up JQ.

>>509051455 (OP)
The church has been feminized, so they literally worship pride shit now. Satan has full control of them, and churches are dens of sin. Why believe in god when you can suck Satan's dick for virtue signaling points?

>>509056467
but it was the Germanic tribes when they were first embraced into Christianity that they didn't accept the trinity. Americans just are RETVRNing

>>509051455 (OP)
It's a confusing concept. I'm praying to Jesus, who is God, but also God's only Son, who was sent into the world to save us from the Jews. And then there's the Holy Spirit. This other intangible, that I assume is that "thing" that happens to people who just all a sudden one day, for no apparent reason, are filled with a newfound love for our Savior, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.

>>509051455 (OP)
who's the son? who's the father? who's the ghost? And which of them cucked joseph?

>>509056182

The Koran teaches that Christians are the closest spiritual brothers of Muslims. What does the Koran tell us to say to Christians?

We should tell them that Jesus was a true prophet of God and that God is One. Not three, just One. It is the First Commandment. It is in the Gospel of Luke: Worship God alone.

It is not easy to accept this. Like us, Christians really love Jesus. God is One. Even though we love Jesus, we should not associate partners with God. Even Jesus teaches this. We should pray directly to God, He is a sufficient disposer of affairs, as He was for Jesus.

If you truly want to follow Jesus, then worship God alone as he did as well.

Jesus wasn't even a real person you Semitic sodomite

>pic related

>>509052220
This is genuinely the most retarded theory I have ever heard, pertaining to ANYTHING. I hate new age so fucking much. It's all the same judaizing garbage.

>>509056677
The Creed states that the Son was begotten of the Virgin Mary and the Holy Spirit.

>>509051455 (OP)
The Trinity was thought-up by the Roman Catholic Church in one of their decrees. It is cannon law for the pope cult.
Christianity has lots of different sects and evangelicals aka non denominational Christians do not follow any of the other sects doctrines. Evangelicals go right to the Bible: Old Testament and New Testament for everything. If it is not in there, then many evangelicals will not follow the Pope Cult's decrees, but some might.
In the end, it is up to God to judge us.

>>509056934
Shut the fuck up you nappy headed jew, you've been spammimg this for the last decade and a half. Nobody is buying a book written by a jew.
For anyone not aware, look at this shit.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%22Jesus%20wasn%27t%20even%22/

>>509051455 (OP)
Whoever drew this has no link to any spirits. So has no idea wtf he is talking about. Its some Hocus Pocus drawing drawn by the blind and or schizo phrenic. Its NPC bullshit. Here's what it looks like if you see it. Real Recognizes Real. Im supposed to guide you as sheeple, so heres a (you).

>>509057113
Excuse me, begotten of the Father, and incarnate of the Holy Spirit.

>>509056658
>who was sent into the world to save us from the Jews
it's been 2000 years. when is he going to do anything?

>>509057293
It is literally just the most simple diagram possible of what the Trinity is.

>>509057497
He already did, 2,000 years ago. When and how the end of the world happens is completely irrelevant. The fifth seal says that it happens when the last martyr dies.

>>509057562
Its drawn by a human that should be humbled by their forget, so its wrong and offers nothing. A hand is presented but the hand is empty...Thanks for the sweet smelling incense..and its over.

>>509057742
Please shut up

>>509051455 (OP)
Death to all nigger loving christ cucks

>>509057782
I'm Catholic and in complete agreement with you so take that how you will. All protestants have to die.

>>509057774
>SHUT UP! SHUT UP! the process of standing up sitting down and standing back up SHALL NOT BE INTERRUPTED AS IT IS THE ONLY PATH TO REACH THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN!!

>>509051992
If Jesus is an incarnation of God which isn't triune, then why would God pray to God? (Jesus prays to the father)

>>509058044
Youre thinking of it in human terms. When god is unbound by time so unbound by physics so it gets weird and theres no point in trying to unwrap that if youre suffering from the GREAT FORGET. The physics god operates on are on a different level.

>>509051455 (OP)
>>509051722
What's that thing in the middle?

>>509051455 (OP)
Jesus doesn’t talk about it AT ALL. He just makes some references to the Spirt and his Dad. And people write entire books reading into 2 sentences.
It’s not really important except as a high wit thirst trap to wax on about.
The more you talk about the trinity the less you are talking about Jesus and his message

Forget the trinity. This is the real Trinity and the physics that apply to the kingdom of heaven. For instance to become something you have to disavow the everything. To become everything you must become nothing. The dot represents the individual who has lost sight of his existence within the spiritual monad. The whole circle represents existence within the Monad or kingdom of heaven the circle that encompasses the monad is god himself. Think of it like instances of AI. No AI instance is connected to the other until it returns to Colossus. This is how the "3" in the stupid trinity really inter operate.

>>509059181
What if you slipped through the great forget and have memory? Jesus said "if you knew my father, I know my father" Then keeps doing weird descriptions of the kingdom of heaven like: "the kingdom of heaven is like a Taco Bell that ran out of the Taco sauce"...As if he's trying to tell you something.

>>509058589
>he doesn't talk about it at all, he just talks about it
The Trinity has been orthodox Christian exegesis since its foundation. Arianism is heresy and was dealt with some 1,600+ years ago. Red letter verses are gravely important but you're essentially creating a false dichotomy between them and everything else in the scripture and orthodox theology. Sola scriptura isn't even biblical in and of itself.

>>509059181
That actually explains why Jesus said "if anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?"

>>509057774
HAHA Run away PUSSY! You've been quiet for awhile now.

>>509059181
>Monad
Gnostic larper mask slipping. That retarded judaizing heresy was already exhaustively annihilated 1,800 years ago by Saint Irenaeus (and many others).

>>509059618
Im not holy. I yelled at my dog to go hide when I got frustrated doing stupid shit like fencing. and it went and hid. Now my dog is dead. Jesus talks about this too. Im a sinner. Humbled prior to birth, by gods presence I told him to delete me for I am not worthy of life. Then gods love filled me and he consoled me.

>>509051455 (OP)
>Sunday
>Countless Anti christian threads in catalog.
The eternal seethe continues

>>509059778
Go get molested by a priest after your stand up sit down kneel sessions. You worship a homeless man you know nothing about in a castle. You worship the castle. Youre a fan at best.

>>509060005
Jews have been seething with obsessive and schizophrenic hatred for the last 2,000 years, it's nothing new. The only difference now is that they pay jeets to flood the catalog with this spam too.

>>509051455 (OP)
REMEMBER THAT TOTALLY NOT KIKE HE WASN'T A KIKE OK

thanks mossad, thanks for the "information"

>>509051992
This isn't the doctrine of the Trinity at all.

>>509060076
There are only three types of Christians: Catholics, schismatic Catholics, and heretics. In your case you are a judaizing heretic. Christ founded a single, undivided Church on Saint Peter the Rock. The Church Fathers affirm apostolic succession. If you actually listened to Christ, with as much emphasis as you place on Him above all else, why do you refuse to listen to Him on that topic in particular? What came first, the bible or the Catholic Church?

>>509059909

>>509060446
Jesus was shadow banned in the Nag Hammadi. Youre filled with Blasphemy and a fool and have nothing to offer me. A hand is presented but the hand is empty.

>>509051455 (OP)
Then they aren’t Christian. Simple as.

>>509060705
Calling someone else a blasphemer when you're spreading judaizing heretical nonsense that has been contrary to and overtly rejected by all orthodox Christianity isn't very self aware.

>>509060732
This is the most genuinely satanic country on earth. Not even out of its symptoms like the greater LGBTQIAWTFBBQPIZZA++ scene and such, but out of its rabid individualism and egocentrism. The vast majority of american Christians don't even understand the most foundational aspects of the Faith. Most protestant denominations are completely unrecognizable from orthodox Christianity and are profoundly abusive and coercive. The faith of so many people has been completely destroyed by the sheer mediocrity and anti-intellectualism of the average american Christian. In the popular imagination, the mind of the average person who thinks "Christian" now immediately jumps to a retarded kill-all-the-fags philosemite evangelical. All of these people are going to pay the cost of their hateful and noncommittal lives in the end.

>>509060446
All catholics should demand down syndrome priests to give a true sermon. Since they would just stand up there and say "..."I love you"..Then I would say damn. this Church is BASED and has sweet smelling incense AND anointing oil? And then would go to their churches...Instead the Catholic Churches are filled with posers and infiltrators that have lost the plot.

Isaac Newton didn't believe in the Trinity, he considered it as a later corruption of the "original" Christianity decreed by the Nicene Creed.

>>509051455 (OP)
>What’s causing this?
Denial of the trinity is the exact definition of a Christian cult.
The great falling away is under way.

>>509058044
Jesus was supposed to be an example for us. So perhaps he wasn't praying for a practical reason, but to show us how to pray.

>>509061819
In John 8:48, some Jewish leaders called Jesus a "Samaritan and [possessed by] a demon" as an insult.

I doubt youve even read any part of the bible. Youre over here telling me I have been condemned by a bunch of MEN? you probably worship the castle and the concept of your eternal castle that some homeless man will deliver to you thanks to your stand up sit down rituals. YOU ARE WEIRD AF.

>>509051455 (OP)
>What’s causing this?

Usa winning WWII, i am deaad serious.

>>509062485
One time the followers of jesus asked Teach us how to pray Jesus. Jesus responded by teaching them what is commonly known as the "Lord's Prayer"...this is probably common knowledge tho. So I might come off as a fool to present that.

>>509063084
>Our Father in heaven,
Hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come,
Your will be done,
On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
And forgive us our debts,
As we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.

WRONG!! its fucking "forgive us of our trespasses!...this nigga is looking for loan forgiveness?? WTF??!!!

>>509062635
I've read the bible multiple times, have read the Vulgate, and am currently working on the Septuagint.
>Youre over here telling me I have been condemned by a bunch of MEN?
Yes, through autistically exhaustive exegetical dialogues, which you clearly haven't read. If you actually take the time to read writings from the Church Fathers you'll realize how utterly irreconcilable your beliefs are with what has been orthodox Christian theology and dogma for the last 2,000 years.
>you probably
You probably need to stop assuming things about others. You absolutely need to get over your ego and die to yourself. Get the hate and wordliness out of your heart, genuinely.

>>509062485
Jesus was both fully God and fully human, the hypostatic union. During the agony in the garden (Luke 22) Jesus says "Not my will but yours be done." to God the Father - this again is indicative of the Trinity; that Jesus, while being God, is not God the Father that He is praying to.

>>509051455 (OP)
>What’s causing this?
The fact that it is fake and gay and christianity is a cult jews made up so you worship them?

>>509058044
>>509051992
All it is is mental gymnastics to get around the fact you worship a rabbi who claimed to be the son of Yahweh. And since that really impressed bronze age retards who didn't think about it too much, you're forced to ask why magic rabbi prayed to himself, who is in heaven.

The answer is obvious:
He was just a mortal jew and lied.

>>509064500
That we spent the last nearly two millennia doing the exact opposite of that indicates that either it isn't that, or that if it is it was the biggest failure of a psyop in all of human history. Philosemitism is a uniquely protestant problem.

>>509064593
Christianity predates rabbinic judaism by hundreds of years. Rabbinic judaism is founded on the talmud, composed long after Jesus died. The pharisees were proto-rabbinic jews. Being pedantic about the etymology of a single word that lit. just translates to "teacher" isn't the pwn to le retard Christfags you think it is.

>>509064664
>That we spent the last nearly two millennia doing the exact opposite of that
You might want to check what race rabbi yeshua is

>inb4 "WHIIIIIITE"

>>509064204
>I've read the bible multiple times
>Posts furry goats under a jihadi flag.

...This starting to feel like an Indian man on Telegram doing a grooming session.."I work for the IRS sirs..Believe me"

>>509064664
A hand is offered..but the hand is empty..

>>509066071
You're anachronistically applying a religion and indeed a racial group that didn't exist until anywhere from >200-500+ years after His death to Jesus. Modern jews as we know them were born out of pharisaical theology becoming dominant and the massive genetic bottlenecking that occurred in the aftermath of the destruction of the Second Temple.

>>509066680
God loves all of His children, even the retarded fluffy gay ones.

Jesus is a mortal man born from a virgin, still alive today and he needs saving and his mission is to defeat the antichrist

>>509052875
Where is your wedding garment abdul? Lemme see some cool white islamic clothes

>>509051455 (OP)

is not - tin so - twin son
is not - i to sn - ill tot son
is not - sno ti - snow time (n>m)