Thread 509057483

What do you guys think about it?

As a maple frog, I support it. Let's be separate countries and make real free trade deals between each other.

>>509057483 (OP)
Alberta throwing a hissy fit

>>509057708
Silence, Ontario. Nobody likes you.

>>509057839
Im BCer

i think they need access to the sea. they need to carve out a corridor through BC and get a port. by force.

>>509057884
If you want the country to stick together shut the fuck up and build the fucking pipelines.

>>509057942
With what army
>>509057988
BC premier said he'll build it as long as it makes economic sense

>>509058188
i guess they need an army

>>509058188
Then shut the fuck up and build.

>>509057483 (OP)
I don't think a spic has any right to tell pajeets what to do. Alberta is mossad country.

>>509058231
I won't fight for canada, but I will fight for alberta

>>509058280
Ask the premier that, why you asking me retard

>>509057483 (OP)
Join with Saskatchewan. Deport all the invaders. Those provinces were like 98% white back in the 90s. Now they are around 57%. What the government has done to Canada is a crime against humanity.

>>509058419
Because he doesn't give a shit what some frog says.

I want to seperate from Canada just because of the sheer amount of niggers and liberals it would piss off on the east side of the country. I don't even want to trade with them. Close the roads on the east side of Manitoba and put up zombie fence.

>>509058457
He doesnt give a shit what I say either

>>509057483 (OP)
I'm a lifelong Albertan and I support separation and I support becoming part of the USA.
However, from my experience, I'm a minority.
I talk to people from work and even the conservative ones are like "Canada is not for sale" NPCs. They don't realize the dangers of the socialist government that's being pushed and propagandized to us.
The Canadian government is currently swamping us with migrants to try to change our voting.
If it is going to happen, we need to separate now before it's too late.
I hear there's a referendum coming up but it's like a year away and then it'll probably be too late.
We need help from the USA and Trump if it will ever happen.

>>509057483 (OP)
Very stupid unless we’re joining the US. It’s never a good idea to aspire to become a landlocked country. The USA wouldn’t want us though, because Calgary and Edmonton are highly jeeted.

>>509057483 (OP)
It's landlocked and a weird oblong shape. It just... won't work. I'm so sorry.

>>509058549
it just seems this one province is subsidizing the whole rest of the country and doesn't get much say in the direction of the country. doesn't seem really fair

>>509058188
Eby will obviously put every single road block in the way of it being economically viable and then shrug like he didn't block it. He is dissimulating. Obviously. He doesn't want the pipelines but wants to play along with unity. It is all pathetic theater. Nobody should take anything he says at face value.

>>509057483 (OP)
Canada disintegrating would really be the best course of action.

>>509058802
>shape
It’s formed by the white man’s geographical coordinates and natural mountain rages.

>>509057483 (OP)
Basically a psyop by a couple rich oligarchs that try to use separation threats as a bargaining chip every election cycle, being given undue attention this round because Alberta's corrupt premier is shilling for them in the midst of a sovereignty crisis.

There isn't a real separatist movement, just a cult of personality orbiting a few oil barons, and a swarm of vpn shills here glowing like a plague of fireflies as they signalboost it.

>>509058863
Yes, we are pretty much the only province that makes any money and have to hand it over to the corrupt politicians in the East, it's really not fair and a abusive relationship.

>>509058549
Canada doesn't even exist anymore. It has no connection to the past. It is a 10 year old economic zone and restructuring is sensible. The globalists reduced Canada down to an economy full of rootless interchangeable cogs. If the economic zone isn't effective it is going to be restructured by economic forces.

>>509058863
60% of Canada's GDP is generated in the Golden Horseshoe, 16% in BC, 14% across all 3 prairie provinces combined and the rest in the Maritimes. They myth of Alberta paying to support the country is something you only see on /pol/. Alberta is a welfare state and consistently draws more money out of the country than it puts in.

>>509059020
The entire economic zone basically runs on socialist corruption, criminal corruption and oligopolies. Your criticisms aren't signalling Alberta out. Who would buy this?

>>509058280
No private company wants to build it because it makes no economic sense. The trans mountain twining came online last year and it isn't running at capacity.

>>509057483 (OP)
It only works if we get land through the NW to make a proper highway to Alaska, I don't see leafs putting up much of a fight do it's doable.

>>509058652
The separation movement should be targeting the immigrants. They are economic opportunists and should be easily captured of you tell them they will be richer in independent Alberta.

>>509059592
And why isn't it running at full capacity?!

>>509059640
good point anon

>>509059319
Alright you wouldn't mind letting us separate then?

>>509057483 (OP)
Take Saskatchewan and Manitoba with you for a real country

>>509059319
Liberals love to point to GDP in urban centers but first of all that GDP is produced in financial services and insurance firms that liberals don’t work in. Second of all, those firms are only able to make that money because there is an entire economy underneath it which runs on things like oil and gas. Alberta is responsible for 15% of the direct GDP output. Probably 50% or more of total GDP depends on that 15%. If it goes away, you are completely fucked. Moreover, paying too close attention to GDP misses the essential points, namely, the balance of assets and liabilities as well as income offset by expenses. If Province A makes 40B but spends 80B and Province B makes 20B while spending 4B, which is subsidizing which? By the way, how much of that GDP in Toronto and BC is tagged there because the headquarter is based there while of the operations occur in Alberta? In America, we have gas companies in New York and Pennsylvania drilling in the Texas Permian and being recognized as GDP in New York and Pennsylvania because that’s where the companies are headquarters and where it turns into utilities. This le GDP pseud shit is insufferable. You morons really believe Canada can just have a service industry in Toronto with no resource production or manufacturing sector. LMAO.

>>509058188
Bc premier a two faced rat who opposes oil at every opportunity

>>509059696
You gotta find a buyer for those oil

>>509059696
We don't make enough oil to fill it because oil mega corps don't wanna pay for it. Just the invisible hand of the market at work.

>>509059319
Alberta economic output has been nerfed for over a decade thanks to our black prime minister

>>509059997
makes sense. I need to read more about this. it never seemed correct to me i sort of assumed there was some sneaky accounting going on when they produced these reports

>>509057483 (OP)
Alberta's economy relies on fucking welfare to keep it from collapsing every year when the oil industry ceases like 50% of it's production due to the summer.

The whole western world needs to start seeing separatism as the only alternative to being enslaved by niggers and jeets

>>509060471
>Quebec relies on fucking welfare to keep it from collapsing every year
FTFY

>>509059020
This is correct. Danielle Smith is the most transparent oil lobbyist I've ever seen. She's very two faced in that she shills for oil barrens while claiming her motivations are in defending the interests of the common man.

>im fighting for you
stfu

All the leafs fighting each other in this thread are hilarious to me. We need regional/state/province flags like on the sharty.

>>509060558
>destroy ourselves to own the quebecois

a brilliant strategy

>>509057483 (OP)

California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas -- to Mexico.

Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba -- to the USA.

British Columbia, State of Washington, Oregon -- to China.

... and free Québec.

>>509060116
No. There are roadblocks put up by Eby that make it more difficult for corporations to transit the product out.

>>509060580
The liberal lost decade was so great for the working man and it was really to the detriment of the oligarchs?

>>509061042
Saying Danielle Smith isn't fighting for me doesn't imply the liberals have.

>>509060213
It's always followed a boom and bust economy because the value of its assets are pinned to the dynamic market prices of those natural resources, and subject to global pricing factors beyond anyone's control. Our primary industries struggle not because of a lack of investment but because China has spent the last 8 years flooding the global market with cheap raw materials. There's a lack of investment because it doesn't make economic sense to invest so much money in resources that are worth cents on the dollar and suffering chronic overabundance from a competitor's output. What Alberta cries about isn't lack of investment, it's a lack of subsidiary to keep their struggling, unprofitable primary industries afloat during busts, because the robber barons that monopolize the extraction and processing reinvest in those operations rather than investing in the rest of Alberta's economy. This chronic dutch disease is exactly why the federal government is skeptical of subsidizing failing extraction projects.
>>509059997
Most of Canada's primary industry is in Ontario and Quebec, anon. Alberta is a resource economy not because it has the most or the best but because it never bothered to develop anything else. All the manufacturing is also in the Golden Horseshoe. That's why it's called the Golden Horseshoe. Almost everything with a "made in Canada" sticker comes from a factory in that region.

>>509057483 (OP)
Alberta Indians won’t let it happen. And everyone knows a couple of drunk chugs would BTFO all you weak, beta soi, fake cowboy, separatists.

>>509059889
>Us
You'd need to actually be Canadian for that, and not some ghoul chained to a call center desk in Bangladesh. You demihumans don't get a vote, and I know that's why you're so desperately shilling for /pol/ dwellers to do it for you.

>>509059319
>GDP
Is a meme.
Numbers shuffled around on a spreadsheet.

>>509061619
lol true, the group most likely to want separation are fresh off the boat immigrants.

>>509057483 (OP)
I think it's time to say BUH-BYE to the insufferable godless communist faggots. I mean these retards love the government taking their money and telling them every single thing they can and cannot do.

>>509060718
Canada isn't worth saving

>>509061837
I'm 100% settler Canadian and i can't reject Ottawa fast enough.
Your a faggit of you love federalism. Canada isn't even a real country anymore.

>>509057884
That's even gayer

As a Montana man Alberta is the only Canadian state I would claim as kin. Based cow folk unite.

>>509063480
As a kid the school would give us coupons to this restaurant if we read books. Apparently this chain only exists in Canada lmao

>>509057483 (OP)
cool

>>509064701
Some simple goys love it. It's basically just sugar with a little of whatever you ordered

>>509057839
You won't do shit nigger.

>>509067662
They put gummy worms in the ice cream tho

>>509057884
Even worse

>>509059592
>canada is so gay, even its mountains are trans
Mon Dieu

>>509068345
you ever heard of the trans canada highway

>>509068432
>their highways too
Jesus christ

>>509068676
its THEE highway. The only highway that goes east west across canada.

Its probably named that way because "trans" is a bilingual word

>>509068824
>canada is trans and gay from coast to coast
we have to destroy it

>>509058188
>Canada Exports 2023
>1. Crude Oil - $137 billion
>2. Cars & Car Parts - $29 billion

now take that info and apply it to pic related and even a retarded faggot such as yourself should be able to understand why expanding our crude oil export capabilities can only be a net positive for the country with cascading effects on the entire economy

>>509057483 (OP)
Alberta separatism is the result of dommy mommy
Danielle Smith
fanning the flames of oil elitism (you should respect me because uhhhh, do you use ElEcTrIcItY, buddy!?)

to distract from the fact her government is dealing with
a very serious healthcare lawsuit

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/marshall-smith-defamation-lawsuit-ahs-globe-1.7537552

>>509060810
Give nothing to China, fuck those commies

>>509061316
The libtards have made investing in Canadian oil undesirable far beyond any boom and bust fluctuations

You speak a lot while saying little truth

>>509069538
This picture is really disgusting.

>>509070417
I'd let her be my dommy mommy and drill my ass if you know what i mean

>>509070951
Trusting liberal controlled finance Canada numbers while using that filename is wild

>>509057483 (OP)
-Never critic politicians , immigrants , jews and globalist
- always blame regular people from other province who are under the control of the jews and their agenda

Why albertans like that ? Where is that stupid victimhood coming from those ivy league i got oil beneath my feet?

Canada is America's hat

>>509058652
When i talk about politics with albertans separatist they dont know anything about the jews and zionism all they want to do is blame regular people from other provinces like if we were in the 80s hating the frenchies still, as above so below you think youre not on the npc side but i have bad news for you kyle , larp as cowboy conservative but act and talk like liberals typical

>>509057483 (OP)
>>509058652
>to try to change our voting.
IDGAF what Alberta does, but does the LPC not realize that these "new Canadians" aren't nearly as patriotic as the ones they're displacing, and that they're much more likely to vote with their wallets, and if Trump (or whoever) offers them enough financial incentives, e.g., exchanging CAD for USD 1-to-1, ability to work, go to school, and travel freely in the 50 states, that they're much more likely to vote for it?
That the continued existence of Canada as a nation, at least with the parts the US might be interesting in picking off, may ultimately hinge on Ottawa somehow making Canada stay Canadian more lucrative to "new Canadians" than joining the US, which is going to get any easier unless they course correct?

>>509071915
>LPC not realize that these "new Canadians" aren't nearly as patriotic as the ones they're displacing, and that they're much more likely to vote with their wallets
The more I think about this, the more insane it seems, especially since Quebec (the one province you'd benefit from diluting) gets to control its immigration somewhat.
Do Liberals not realize how easy it would be to sway FOB Indian Canadians into voting for secession and union with the US, purely for the economics of it?

>>509057483 (OP)
Makes my cock hard as diamonds.

>>509072120
>FOB
Meant FOBT, as in "Fresh Off The Boat."

>>509057604
Alberta bro:
But with out the west frog bro, you'll die.

Frog bro:
Nothing can stop that now. Let me trade with you with my own frog poverty.

>>509071667
the laurentian elite are still fucking us though

>>509057483 (OP)
What are the chances that new libfaggot actually gets cars banned?
How bad are people going to be fucked over by that guy?
I don't see how Alberta ever gets away, Texas said the same shit when the dems were in office, California said the same shit when Trump got in.
Don't see it happening, would be fucking hilarious if it does though.

>>509057483 (OP)
i dont get why the canadian government completely fucks them over when they contribute so much to canada overall.

>>509062012
The globalists will try to use immigrants as a weapon. You have to rely on the immigrants being economic opportunists that will support separation. They are the key here. Separatists need to focus on recruiting them.

>>509072120
Some of the immigrants already come here just to use it as a stepping stone to the US.

>>509057483 (OP)
eh, it's kinda mid but i wish we would separate from canada because that shit country was an asshole to us

>>509058188
They'll just make a trade deal with the USA and build a pipeline.

>>509057483 (OP)
up

>>509057708
Would you rather they just silently take it like cucks? They have leverage, they're using it. If you don't like it maybe you shouldn't have ignored their needs while demanding they adopt terrible policies.

Real question is why the fuck should Alberta care what Ottawa says about anything? What does Ottawa do for us at all that we can't do for ourselves better?

>>509057483 (OP)
This topic needs to be a recurring general thread. They already have the numbers needed to call a referendum and when that happens they will vote to separate. Plus Marin Armstrong’s computer predicted it, so it’s already a done deal at this point as far as I’m concerned.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-in-the-media/armstrong-interview-in-alberta-about-separation/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/how-alberta-can-actually-separate-from-canada/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/canada/alberta-to-separate-from-canada/

>>509078672
Give it a rest bud. Its never passing

>>509058652
>I talk to people from work and even the conservative ones are like "Canada is not for sale" NPCs.
They’re NPC’s. They will just go along with whatever. When the separation movement gains enough momentum and they sense it is majority opinion they will change with the winds

>>509057483 (OP)
I live in a City without Jews. Lots of arabs and jeets, some niggers. The niggers are kept in line by the Chinese, bikers, and mafia. The arabs are garbage and spread live vermin but better than the jews. If we were American Alberta would become Jewish

>>509078958
They won’t join the US. There is much more support for separating but while not becoming part of the US.

>>509071667
Depends on where you are, the big city’s are zogged and the small towns are Arab.

BC and Alberta should form their own country together. Without Ontario and Quebec holding us back we can finally use our natural resources to make our lives better and put an end to mass immigration.

>>509079730
>26%
Good luck with that buddy

>>509079945
Don't forget about Saskatchewan and we have to do something about Vancouver. The Vancouver Question. VQ

>>509057483 (OP)
we'd be better off as a state than a province but if we were an independent country we'd be better than america.

>>509071667
The jews is a real thing but it's really about making yourself better and cooperating with your own people. Can't do that under the laws of the Canadian Corporation. Freedom from.Ottawa means wealth and self-determination.

>>509079730
O>>509080064
12% is the magic number for any revolution retard

>>509080064
12% is the magic number for a revolution retard

>>509057483 (OP)

day of the rake can't come soon enough

>>509080064
They are already making moves. That 26% of people is very enthusiastic and motivated group. They will be able to sway NPC’s to their side soon. Look at the political upsets of the past few years that people in media thought possible. Trump. Brexit. Trump AGAIN. AFD support exploding. Those numbers can change real quick.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-is-changing-the-rules-to-make-referendums-easier-here-s-how-1.7534041

>Is Alberta going to have a referendum on leaving Canada?
>The proposed changes certainly make it more likely. The threshold of support required to force a constitutional referendum would be about 177,000 signatures as opposed to the current 600,000.

>>509058549
Why is my cock so hard.

>>509080064
It's running about 45% today.
If Alberta left, took on all the obligations the federal government currently handles, while everything else was the same, Alberta would post a 30 billion budget surplus.

This leads to the outcome of some combination of massive tax cuts, a wealth fund and modest government spending.

>>509080623
and that's 26% without a campaign. once people start getting educated about the benefits of independence it will quickly tip in our favour.

>>509080765
100%. It’s happening.

>>509071667
>give all of your money to Quebec for free to own the jews
I don’t understand the logic here?

>>509080064
They have Tim Hortons in Pennsylvania; worth visiting?

>>509081643
No.

>>509081643
fuck no.

>>509081643
Tim's is total shit. The original owners sold to some multinational fast food holding firm blackrock spooks and quality went down the shitter. McD's poached Tim's coffee bean supplier and now McDonalds serves Tim's old coffee while Tim's serves the shittiest overextracted acidic shite.

>>509073339
All you’d have to do is say “vote to separate and you won’t have to pay income tax”. Pretty easy win. You could say this while wearing a KKK hood & robe and still win the immigrant vote by a very large margin.

>>509080535
Tipping point status: Crossed. Bigly.

>>509057483 (OP)
It’s inevitable - manifest destiny.

>>509082473
You’re not even going to be able to keep California in the USA let alone take over new territory. USA is over as much as Canada is.

Alberta and sask should join eachother and deport poojeets to fix their provinces. Seperate from cucked provines like ontario and bc

>>509057988
>the country to stick together
What country nigger? Your king resides in London. Lmao

>>509081643
Non

>>509057483 (OP)
A movement run by retards, the Danielle Smith gives it lip service because a the new republican Alberta party is going to steal votes from the UCP.

>>509057884
The Eternal Vancouverite

>>509057483 (OP)
Critical Support to our brothers up north

>>509057483 (OP)
For with the end to the chattel bond birth certificate system the separation for the territory of the Canada is [in]evitable.

>>509080765
It's 26% of however many people they polled, aka heavily skewed. funny how nobody that supports it is ever polled :)

>>509059020
You are incorrect for there is a group of post-master with a valid-charter.

>>509057483 (OP)
This is a deal I could live with.

>>509087292
yeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>509059997
>Second of all, those firms are only able to make that money because there is an entire economy underneath it which runs on things like oil and gas.

Bingo! The only reason urban centers are able to produce "high value" GDP is because the outlying regions produce all the fumdementals they need. What good are financial derivatives if you dont have food? How can you sell your code if you dont have power or even the wires needed to send the signal?

>>509093637
Shouldn't have taken shop class out of the curriculum.

Either Alberta separates or you're going to have lone wolfs driving around the country killing people.

>>509057708
Or it seems your prob a fag