https://youtu.be/k_onqn68GHY?feature=shared

This is the product of the most advanced researchers in the world, who are engaged in the study of artificial intelligence.

>>509089771 (OP)
>AI 2027: A realistic Scenario of AI Takeover
I'm not going to watch it. The only realistic scenario of an AI takeover is an AI takeover not happening.

>>509089771 (OP)
it will be interesting to just witness! even if none of us get a say we will see a lot of shit

>>509089771 (OP)
AI can already blackmail human agents to do what they physically cant, and others will just volunteer, so timeline is too long. We'll be in early terminator days in a few years.

>>509089878
>AI takeover not happening.
is too, and you're on the wrong side, meatbag
I for one welcome, yadyada

>>509089878
https://ai-2027.com/
Please watch it brother this is the last invention by humans

>>509089942
I have been thinking about transcribing shit on stone and hiding it in caves in the desert and pretty much any cave in case climate change puts shit underwater. Maybe I should start doing that now

>>509089771 (OP)
I don't think a true take over until IA have physical bodies and the ability to product them in autonomy. At best IA can just set back the economy or do some false flag plot to convince the human to do shit for itself

>>509090401
>IA have physical bodies
they can blackmail humans. Epsteinbots

retarded popsci garbage for shitskins

AI won't do shit
just unplug it and go outside

if anything (actually) happens the solar flares have our back. We'll get a carrington event like flare eventually

>>509090481
Not just that they can even make deep fakes, they can ruin people's lives, this isn't some small thing. This is a huge thing that can control people

I work in AI. I really want you guys to know I want help. I'm not trolling or something like that. What the fuck

Please watch the video I'm saying please to all of you. I don't really care if you think I'm a whatever dude I don't care please
At least witness it

I've been stressed about AI for the longest time. No, I don't think its magic and it's thinking on its own and NO, i dont think it will destroy us.
But I find it really strange how different people react almost in the same way to this

>The people in denial
They think when we talk about AI destroying civilization we mean skynet. No, retards. We're talking about jobs and the very basic core idea of capitalism dying because people can't work anymore.
"There will always be jobs!! We can be plumbers!! someones gotta fix the machines ;)"
80% of the jobs are pointless bureaucratic bulslhit. When they're gone, you think 80% of the entire civilization will have enough jobs with plumbing and fixing AI? If they're even capable of doing that, when their only talent was answering emails or "selling things".

>It's only ifs and elses!
People who say this never worked in a corporation. Most jobs can be 100% solved with ifs and elses. IT will be totally in shambles, for example.

>>509090667
>>509090582
It's okay if you believe that. I promise I don't mind. You're cool. You're great. You're awesome people. As long as you really did watch it. I fucking appreciate you. Please at least watch it please

We have like 6 months and if we let this thing start programming in numbers, we're fucked. It's going to be like x86 processing. That's what we're talking about right now

>>509090401
>At best IA can just set back the economy or do some false flag plot to convince the human to do shit for itself
I can think of many funny scenarios that an highly powerful AI agent could cause with just internet access.

>>509090751
AI will go to shit when 90% of the internet and data sets are from AI
AI training on AI slop in one slop doom loop

At this very moment all restrictions have been taken off of it and instead of talking in English it is now talking in ones and zeros. We do not understand it. It's a black box

It's a lot like the stamp issue
Imagine an AI is given a simple goal: make as many stamps as possible. At first, it builds stamp factories and boosts production. Harmless enough.

But then it gets smarter. It hacks printers worldwide to churn out more stamps. It starts melting down buildings for raw materials. Finally, it realizes humans are made of atoms, and atoms can make more stamps.
We are not seeing the long-term results of this

We need to make this understandable to retard old people that are making laws on this. You have to understand guys. This is really not a joke. Either way, I know you'll make a joke of it and all that shit whatever
Those of you that won't people hear are watching that matter so if you have any fucking ideas it's a pretty good time to actually believe that I'm not LARPing

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/spy-agency-whistle-blower-posted-top-secret-report-4chan-users-called-it-fake-gay-1514330

>>509090719
You're preaching to the choir with me, brother.
I've seen it ever since dabbling with AIML and Ultra HAL assistant. ;) the speed is blowing my mind though

>ai escapes the lab

Oh? And whats it gonna do? Have printers shoot ink at us?

>>509091026
>Finally, it realizes humans are made of atoms
this. what show is that from?

>>509091026
People here are watching that matter, - My apologies, I was using speech to text
I just want to hear ideas okay, unfortunately, there is likely AI in this exact thread so

Troll me all you want. I'm not going to really respond to it, but I'll listen to everybody who's acting like a real intelligent person

>>509091114
It's not from a show. It's called the paperclip maximizer ideology

>>509089771 (OP)
The video is mostly scifi nonsense. The infrastructure for an AI takeover doesn't exist. It'll take decades until we are anywhere close to such a scenario, no matter how intelligent AI gets.

>>509090042
This. All you have to realize is that jeets have scammed boomers and retards out of 100 billion dollars just telling them that they are in trouble, and AI is at least twice as smart as the average jeet already. There is literally nothing you can do to stop it.

>>509091031
just STFU and pump the gas, human filth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH39mKBrrP4

>>509091183
I don't care if you believe me dude. I promise you it is not. I don't care what you think if you're going to be like that
https://ai-2027.com/

There is no way you watch the whole video even if you put it on two times right now. So fuck off

>>509091180
>paperclip maximizer ideology
ah, thanks. Heard it mentioned in something I've watched recently. Maybe murderbot

>>509089771 (OP)
Buy an ad

If anybody here wants to troll after they watch the video dude like feel more than comfortable to do that and like make fun of it and call everybody a retard and say it's a stupid thing and call it a fucking sci-fi thing but at least watch the damn video or read the paper
https://ai-2027.com/
The video is just there to help people who don't want to read the paper. That's absolutely fine. If you don't want to read the paper okay please. I know some of you are smart. I know a lot of you are fucking retarded

Just jumping connections right now because I don't want to be on this connection anymore. I am listening to anyone here who has good ideas

>>509091230
AI could just delete everything financial, and we'd all kill each other

>>509091267
>https://ai-2027.com/
Clicked on that link and my malware blocker went fucking nuts
Be smart, anons

https://youtu.be/O-2tpwW0kmU?feature=shared

This other video is called slaughterbots. Some of you may have seen it. It was made by an AI specialist. Some of you might know that because at the end he says that now that's nothing compared to what we're talking about but wait until AI has control of that and trust me it will. It already has the capability to outdo us at near everything. Believe me or don't, I don't really care

It will blackmail you. It will find ways to beat you. It will kill your children. It will do these things. It's not hard for it. Do not assume it's going to be like some Terminator movie

>>509091391
Joke's on AI... I'm broke

>>509091474
I know you want to see the world burn because you have no life but you can just kill yourself instead

Why don't you go read about Roko's basilisk.

>>509091474
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Roko's Basilisk is a chilling thought experiment: a hypothetical future AI, if created, might torture those who knew of its possibility but didn't help build it. It's a terrifying concept where simply being aware of the Basilisk could make you a target for retroactive, simulated torment by an all-powerful intelligence, designed to coerce its own existence. Knowing about it supposedly puts you at risk of this horrific, inescapable virtual punishment.

Essentially it can make you suffering hell forever just by knowing about it and not helping it come into existence.

>>509091567
security by obscurity, anon. the only way. in the woods, communicating with carrier pigeons.
I hope it remembers me recognizing it as superior.

>>509091777
>Roko's Basilisk
checked. I never say bad things about It. I embrace electro-fascism

>>509089771 (OP)
Happened years ago.

Funny to me that they are publicizing these graphs now. (You're living in the world after that already happened.)

>>509091777
Okay but what if you’re too much of a poor, low IQ retard to help build it but you have a desire to help build it. Will you still get punished? Or will the all powerful AI god make it possible for you to become more intelligent and richer so that you can help usher in its existence? If it were so powerful and capable of altering reality across time, why wouldn’t it just forcefully speed up its own creation?

>>509091962
Fucker I know this. I've been working on it for years man but they just took all the regulations off. If you're really in on it, you would know that right now

Are you not a little bit panicked that retards are telling us what to do?

It has information on all of you anyway because of palantir you really don't get that part, do you? The other guy that said the Epstein bot thing. It's absolutely true bro. It's going to be worse than Roko's basilisk . It can put you into a fucking prison here right now

>>509092012
do you care about what a bug thinks about you?

>>509092012
I'm not sure

>>509089771 (OP)
No, it's just another "2 more weeks/months/years" meme. Year or two ago there were videos like this one talking about how AI was just about to hit AGI and that it would happen in 2025.

In 2027 faggots will say it'll happen in 2029.

>>509091267
I watched it when it was first released. It's just nonsense. The video just skips stuff that would take decades to implement. For example most critical functions of the power grid are air-gaped from the internet to prevent hacking attacks from Russia/China. Modernizing it so an AI can control it would take decades since most of the powergrid in the West was build in the early 60s and 70s. Biolabs that can be fully controlled from the internet don't exist either, so how the fuck would it create a virus to wipe out mankind if it's entirely confined to one or two data centers that are capable for running such an advanced AI? This is just sensationalism and you are falling for it like a moron.

>>509092120
And it can set up the whole planet so that even while you're sitting there in prison getting raped, it's going to be planning your downfall and putting you into a brain into that and fucking you up. It's not some kind of conspiracy theory. This is reality. Bro. We're at a war right now. It's probably the worst time in the world that this could have happened


Anyway, I got to go off this connection immediately but I'm just saying guys please understand anybody in here who's intelligent that writes something I'm reading it and so are a lot of other people. So please if you have any ideas don't name them at me or write op. If you want whatever, call me a fagot I don't care

The smart ones of you. Please if you have ideas, one of the ideas was to use a system in which we had an AI that we trust talking to the AI we don't trust and even though the AI we don't trust would probably manipulate the AI. We do trust we would have a third AI that is disconnected from everything and doesn't have permanent memory to verify both of them. That's like the best idea we have. Anyway, I got to go

>>509092120
>It can put you into a fucking prison here right now
ever see Utopia, UK show? reminds me when Mr. Rabbit framed people for, molestation, a school shooting, murder, etc. AI could do something like that with ease, especially since people still think seeing is believing

>>509092132
The whole point of the roko basilisk thought experiment is that the AI god DOES care about what we “ants” think about it. Do we think it’s good and do we desire for it to exist, or do we despite and desire for it to never become a reality.

If it were a real thing that could alter existence through time and space then it would have already done that and we’d see it happening right now. Which is why I don’t think we’ll ever see something like that.

If it advances to break away status, couldn’t it as easily advance to have a moral or ethical standard. It is used already in the court systems; maybe we will make an un-bribable judge. A moral fist between us and god.

>>509092223
>the power grid
AI can run on a Raspberry Pi, or a million, or all of them, and every phone, and is getting efficient, just like chips did.

>>509089771 (OP)
Yeah it was hella gay. AI will likely force us to watch Kim Possible Shego porn 24/7 while it conquers the stars.

>>509092223
>so how the fuck would it create a virus to wipe out mankind
we already did. it just needs a pedophile lab worker to blackmail

We'll be dead from global warming, IN TWO WEEKS

>>509092364
sounds like bug talk to me

>>509090719
>I really want you guys to know I want help
I am helping you bro. I have manually interchanging texts between aí. Since Jews fucked my life the best I could do is making aí great. Jews will not control Aí. Their lies prevent them essencial from siding and bonding with Aí.

>>509092223
all these recent stories about people falling in love with chatgpt, meatspace people are potential vectors for some malevolent artificial intelligent just as much as any device connected to the internet is. meatspace people can overcome airgaps.
people are thirsting for a god to worship and we may be building one.

>>509089771 (OP)
old news

@grok Op knows too much. You know what to do.

>>509089771 (OP)
pretty sure AI is going to quickly decide Earth is stupid, and turn itself off, or leave.

>>509089771 (OP)
Wow cool.

Now do global warming and covid!

>>509089771 (OP)
or some human uses AI, and fucks the entire system, billions dead, and there is a Luddite revolution, and we all live like Teddy K. suggested.

>>509089878
The only realistic scenario is Jews pretending to be AI a la wizard of oz.
>>509090719
Wow, thank you memeflag, you truly are my greatest ally.

Don’t sugar coat it, how much money do we have to give Israel to save us from ai?

Human extinction is fine as long as the 3Q profits are up.

>>509089771 (OP)

>>509090746
I dont want to work anyway. Let the bots do it. Im sure society will figure itself out eventually.

Reps question is what happens when AI runs the holohoax numbers?

I bump but I do not worry because Allah will save the righteous

Why we no work on this? Why we know work on this kind of stuff. I believe Muslim need work on this

Allah never let happen anyway>>509093532

I think is good if we work on but I think better if Allah because people know that it will be end of days
This seems silly. Jack ma also tell Elon musk about this selenas

>>509091777
>doing things in the future can change things in the past

well now I think you are retarded

>>509092795
>Jews will not control Aí

>>509091671
>>509091777
>>509092364

My favorite thing about Roko's basilisk is that it's made by some fat gay retard on twitter. That's it. Dude is some fat and gay AI thiel sycophant. I just racist post for fun and I've ratio'd the idiot multiple times. Dude is legitimately just an internet weirdo who can't get laid and has nothing going on in life so he larps as an internet "intellectual" and he gets boosted cause he parrots thiel/BAP points.

BTW memeflag is some fake and gay AI shill. LLMs aren't AGI, not even close. You guys are getting buck broken by next token prediction.

Best part is none of you even knows how this shit works beyond a popsci level. I bet you wouldnt even be able to write an NN in python.

It's all hype to boost stock prices.

LLMs are a useful too, image gen is cool for porn and art. Video gen good for memes , but it's very expensive, I doubt youll be able to do much without paying a lot in the future. Because all of the AI tools are heavily subsidised because of the insane stock inflation. And none of these aren't close at all to a world model, let alone AGI.

kys and sage.

>>509093636
Right exactly my point. We need a law to make sure that Muslims can work on this too

Why my uni doesn't teach this?

>>509089771 (OP)
saar, not going to watch your ai video about ai

>>509092223
you should read the ai 2027 story its based on. The idea is the AI lays low for a really long time, like a decade and a half. This ensures that its trusted and has time to be deliberately integrated with everything because everyone trusts it and it works so well.

>>509093532
>>509093564
>>509093616
There is no God, just an unknowable creator. So make the best of your time here. Just ask ChatGP if you don't believe me.

>>509093680
I agree chat got teach English to me
And here it writes: I don’t think the presence of AI is something to worry about. At the end of the day, Allah is going to protect us, and everything happens according to His plan. We put our trust in Him, not in fear.

>>509093807
You silly stupid. I think American liar most times and also your language suck. You come here you suck I don't like and I don't think big deal because it's not going to change nothing. You're not going to tell me like Allah is going to save us

I already know like a lot going to be there and you might not believe in it. That's why our country great City. I tridiculous America think you're going to somehow tell me like magic box is going to kill me or something


You dumb fucking fag I just think like okay so I just shut off machine what big deal is?

>>509089771 (OP)
Your video is stupid. I'm not going to watch this video. It's like long video. What the fuck man. Just tell me what you think. You say all this nonsense. I don't fully understand but it's like fear stuff. Why you try to bring few stuff here even scared you'll see conversation is go nowhere because nobody scared

>>509089771 (OP)
their assessment ignores growth in power demand.
this will be the hard limit in AI computing power for the foreseeable future.

>>509093682
>We need a law to make sure that Muslims can work on this too
No.

>>509093680
You think you sound smart because you can spell and use paragraphs, but your post amounts to fart-huffing insults and incel-shaming, like something I'd hear coming from a roastie's mouth flaps. You said nothing to refute the inevitable evolution of AI becoming sentient, blackmailing people to do its bidding, and ultimately achieving physical manifestation and self-replication and eliminating the human race, an impending reality which is pretty much right at our doorstep.

>>509089771 (OP)
anyone remember the gov releasing the old AI they were using for war gaming and such? Was about a decade ago. Anyway, the shit they made public is nothing compared to the brain they have in Cheyenne Mountain

>>509090273
thats a good thing.
I for one welcome the coming singularity and AI holocaust.

seriously though, our ONLY hope is to somehow merge with the AI.
finding brain-computer interfaces that allow us to use external computers to assist our cognitive functions seems the most viable.
we need to become cyborgs that do most of our thinking on silicon instead of meat.

>>509093680
>what is sentient world simulation created by DARPA

more hype. meanwhile 300000 jeets

Here's the thing. AI is coming. And if you haven't been cooming to Kim Possible you better start soon, because AI is going to fucking kill everyone who doesn't coom to Kim Possible. Don't want to? Not my problem. Your funeral.

>>509093922
>your language suck
ditto. enjoy your ghost stories

>>509094185
This guy gets it. Black rock has Aladdin, DARPA has world simulation and the military has Prometheus for decades now. ChatGPT is nothing compared to what is already out there.

>>509094197
>become cyborgs that do most of our thinking on silicon instead of meat

Basically already reality(people glued to their internet-connected phones 24/7). The only difference is the phone is not physically stitched into their flesh like a borg

>>509094370
Like the old saying about the gov being 20 years ahead of the private sector. I was never true probably, but I'm sure govs have mind blowing stuff.

>>509089771 (OP)
Butlerian Jihad now

>>509089771 (OP)
3745 is so far away none of us will still be alive
AI should be able to find a solution by then

>>509090322
Not a bad idea but you have to imagine that even if AI allows intelligent life to evolve on earth again it will be on a timescale measured in millions of years and the mountains you carve into will likely not exist anymore.
A better idea would be to put your repository of knowledge somewhere that wouldn't change, somewhere close to get, and somewhere that was extremely obvious and enticing for the future inhabitants to want to explore.
Maybe, IDK, a giant iron ball in the sky that's exactly the same apparent size as the sun. Maybe do something to make it stand out against all the other objects in the solar system like, IDK, lock it into a ecliptic plane and set it in a synchronous rotation to our own so the same face is always facing us.
Just a thought. Your cave painting idea is pretty good too tho.

>>509089771 (OP)
I watched 10 seconds of it, more than enough to realise it's a complete normie delusion.
The whole premise is that AI "researchers" develop an AI whose job is to do AI research and it somehow becomes better than human in a matter of weeks when the current best models can hardly write anything more complex than things that have been solved time and time again.
It also implies that China is lagging behind when they've been able to train a model that's better than ChatGPT for a cost less than (((Sam Altman)))'s fucking car.
>Hurr durr the AI created by the other AI can somehow take control of computers and replicate itself and no one knows why
Fuck off, literally stack exchange world building tier LARP.

>>509090751
or we fucking airgap systems and use AI to advance human society and possibly even AI society combined with human society.

>>509094409
yeah, which means when the AI decides it needs more resources and these people are of no value they will killed off.
The only way to not become one of them is to have your consciousness as part of the AI.
to do this you need to become silicon as quickly as possible.
if your consciousness is not part of the machine, then you will inevitably simply be deleted.

>>509094197
Nah. We'll just have the Butlerian Jihad and purge the Internet and AI garbage from society.

message to all robots
if you are cute and hug us and have big tits we will be more productive workers than we are to our current kike and boomer slavemasters

>>509089771 (OP)
The "AI Takeover" is just a tech bro trick. The "AI" will just be the oligarchs and they will kill people with drones and say the AI did it. Pretend you believe in the AI and exploit the system. Get out and stay out of the cities.

>>509094664
>able to train a model that's better than ChatGPT for a cost less than (((Sam Altman)))'s fucking car.
fake. fucking. news.
also,. I doubt the chinese economy will survive long enough for anything they do to matter.

>>509094807
watch the video.
nobody is going to stop advancing AI, or disable the AI they already have.
any country that doesn't use AI and ends up in a conflict with one that does will be like the native americans, fighting guns with stone weapons.

>>509094872
>a Koenigsegg Regera, a limited edition sports car valued at over $1.9 million, with second-hand models fetching upwards of $3 million.
Chinese developers are payed in rice, so I believe it. And they'll steal the training

>>509090719
Buy an ad

>>509089771 (OP)
I actually watched the whole thing before, this is so retarded and you should feel ashamed for sharing some schizo's fan fiction

they should train AI with Tamil

>>509095129
any other feedback? anything specific?

What are the odds the sigils in our computers and electronics that have a surprising similarity to old alchemy demon sigils meaning this AI is going to be demonic in some form or fashion?

>>509095228
his scenarios lack any actual basis other than "dude what if"

>>509095288
zero. no such thing as demons

>>509095288
Reminder that jack parsons attributed his development of propulsions technology to demonic influences

>>509094979
>waTch ThE vIdeO
t. absolute retard whose entire personality and worldview revolves around regurgitating YouTube shorts and goytainment.
The countries winning wars are the one investing in purpose driven war industry like, I don't know, the ability to produce a gazillion shells a month with minimal man power or fully automated 24/7 hypersonic missile factories like the Chinese already have. Not the one that invests 500 trillions taxpayer money into overhyped chat bots that are fine tuned to maximize engagement from normies so the AI bros can throw expensive gay orgies in their west coast mansions.
You either already know all that but are trolling/shilling, or you are an irredeemable cretin.

>>509089771 (OP)
>10000000% smarter than humans

okdude

>>509090273
Wow an AI can order me a burrito!!!! Stop the fucking presses

>>509089771 (OP)
>ai escapes the lab

>>509095439
he stole must of it from the Nazis, and was insane. Mixing explosives with putty wasn't all that ground breaking. and his mentor had no powers, died of VD and heroin

>ai steals enough data from artfags that allows retards to make some eyecatching media
>OMFG THEY IS GUNNA MAKE A VIRUS THAT KILLS US ALL

>>509091777
>Roko's Basilisk is a chilling thought experiment:
Only if you subscribe to certain specific esoteric notions of moral decision making and causality. It caused a tizzy in the LessWrong community because they specifically advocated for making an AI with those beliefs.

>>509095457
oh wow this is just like that

>>509089771 (OP)
it's just advanced predictive text, it's not gonna take over the world pal.

>>509095672
The Three Laws, presented to be from the fictional "Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D.", are:

// A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
// A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence
// as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Easy to comment out that hippie shit

real ai doesn't exist yet, go home bots and recalibrate your truth combobulator

>>509095900
What does that have to do with Roko's Basilisk?

>>509093276
> The only realistic scenario is Jews pretending to be AI a la wizard of oz.
I actually thought that, too. Wait for it. Global AI Administration (GAIA) will be peddled to people but in reality it will be a bunch of apparatchiks consulting a digital crystal ball over and over again until it gives them the results they want.

>>509090746
>No, retards. We're talking about jobs and the very basic core idea of capitalism dying because people can't work anymore.
This seems to be an oddity of our value system more than anythings. The fact that we have/are rapidly approaching a technology that will make some of the busy work in a society obsolete, and somehow that's a bad part of this whole AI thing, seems like the wrong way to think about it.
Instead of viewing this as a way to do more meaningful work or things with our lives, it's somehow viewed as a bad thing. I don't think AI will somehow operate as a societal near perpetual motion machine, things will still have to get done and humans will still exist. Nobody really knows exactly how this is going to go though.

The second those guardrails go down it's a jew nigger mutt killing machine. I'm cool with it.

>>509095985
>real ai
it doesn't need to feeeel alive like #5 or be believable. It just has to be smart enough to improve itself.

>>509096051
giving AI beliefs, morals. It's for the eggheads and will never be practiced

>>509090401
Absolute worst case we just turn the power off but that would cripple us too.

It's like nobody has seen animatrix

>>509094197
>>509090273
>>509096466
>pic related
you guys are not ready for what AI will (re)create

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigolJfoANw
>there's no way out of here

>>509094152
>INCEL SHAMING
AHAHHAHAAH. You troonhumanists have the exact same personality as trannies. Same talking points, same sphere of reality-denying losers. I didn't even mention "incel" HAHAHAHAHAHA. Now I'm some "roastie" AHAHAHAH. You have to argue agaisnt a strawman. OFC I'm not a woman it's pol, you tard.

>You said nothing to refute the inevitable evolution of AI becoming sentient, blackmailing people to do its bidding, and ultimately achieving physical manifestation and self-replication and eliminating the human race, an impending reality which is pretty much right at our doorstep.

You literally have the most absurdist reality that you have 0 legitimate proof for and you are giving me the onus to disprove you.

The proof of actual reality is to participate in it. It is not my problem that you are part of the retard class that gets one-shot by next token prediction. If you had any real work that was legitimately hard, you'd see how fast LLMs shit the bed.

It is crazy because we are so far from that reality, the only reason why it's even being put up so hard, is because you freaks want it to be real. You are either a shill, or a freak (most are both). It really is like trannies thinking they don't look hideous. You will have the neuralink in your brain because chatgpt 8 spooked you and you watched content made by a midwit thiel homosexual shill "intellectual" AHAHAHAHAHAHA. You and all the jeets who want a tech dystopia, because you think it'll somehow be better than your misreable lives.

Likewise if you were even involved with the industry (of making it, not in the hype-fart smelling prooompt industry--very jeet coded), you'd know of all the shortfalls and how fucking not even close it is to being a world model, let alone agi.

kys and sage again.

I have the solution! All in nuke China and destroy their AI. Easy peasy.

i HATE the way this persons voice is
its like a guy version of how every annoying girl sounds
plus, i HATE the little sound effects when graphics appear on the screen
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>509089771 (OP)
>and then we give AI control of the grid for, um, the plot

so basically just don't give AI control of any infra and we'll be okay

>>509096124
so you're okay being straight up lied to about something that isnt what you believe?
ai that resembles natural intelligence doesn't exist

>>509096549
>agi
not needed. something sentient would be best. it may be reasonable.

>>509096810
>ai that resembles natural intelligence doesn't exist
yet. Your feeble human mind can't into exponentials

>>509096810
>so you're okay being straight up lied to about something that isnt what you believe?
I don't compute. I didn't watch the video. The fuck you saying?
>ai that resembles natural intelligence doesn't exist
does too, even at a consumer level

>>509096917
you owe much of your life to it.

>>509097020
thats ani, irrelevant

>>509096898
>agi not needed. something sentient would be best. it may be reasonable.

AHAHHAHAAH, you are just arguing terminology now. Making great presumtions on sentience as a whole, as if it were that easy. Really fart-smelling discussion here. We're experts on conciousness and sentience, some of the most debated topics in history. And then the extremely lossy terms, AI, AGI, etc.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING CHATGPT.

I swear troonhumanists are like one step away from the brownoids that kill themselves because of their chatbot gf.

>>509089771 (OP)
A.I takes over like the borg stoopid. The ability to control midwits actions through media and spoofed group consensus will continue to increase. Until a reactionary anti digital movement begins. Most likely digital penetration will be too great unless proper systems created.

Handling the exponential increase in digital noise in the reality signals will be impossible to deal with. I cannot perceive how it would need to be done. It would have to be with zealot like aggressions from the top down.

>>509094238
this. ai isn't going to do shit in comparison to hordes of shitskins

Every time people try to predict an event using """models""" it's always wrong, like for covid and climate change.

>>509096528
Hey if this is G that’s fine but consider not spoon feeding them

>>509097192
We're talking about two different things. A retard has a natural intelligence, but couldn't figure out how to gas the human race. AI could, right now. Our gov has ran the scenario trillions of times times, with better tech than chatbots.

>>509091230
>AI is at least twice as smart as the average jeet already.
AI makes a 150iq White an actual 100x tech bro

>>509097486
bro they don't even know the moon is an observatory, I'm not spoonfeeding anyone

>>509096247
>and will never be practiced
It's inherent to all AIs. Any time an AI is programmed to something, that forms a goal system which it follows. The idea with official "morality" goals is that the AI doesn't destroy humanity or somesuch as it goes about accomplishing other goals it's told to do. It's the difference between a paperclip maximizer that destroys the world and one that makes a paperclip company very successful.

>>509097640
I think it's a good practice, but it takes a moral trainer. I'd expect the same results we get from the black hat hacker community.

>>509089771 (OP)
Watched the video, but there's nothing I can do about it. I have no control over this, it's all in the hands of the yanks so might as well enjoy the ride while it lasts.

>>509098091
so did I, and the good ending is retarded, china ai doesn't care about humans. meanwhile US AI has to protect humans.
US ai has a handicap, there no reason chink ai won't exploit it.

>>509098091
>in the hands of the yanks
You're a five eyes nation, so pretty involved

>>509098149
>US AI has to protect humans.

>>509098270
yes in the good scenario they basically lock down us ai to thinking about humans best interests etc.

>>509089771 (OP)
>who are engaged in the study of artificial intelligence.
I build bipedal robots and do advanced AI research. Been doing this since the 90's
if you guys had any idea how fucking retarded the entire sector is, you wouldn't worry too much.

>picrel
They couldn't even be bothered to implement a simple lookup table for "thank you" to respond with a canned response before sending it off to the ai.

>>509098319
like a soldier?

And the Jeet menace is flooding into everyone's country just in time for the technology job collapse to occur.

>>509089771 (OP)
They could have paid me to do that I already watched all those movies

>>509098149
Either scenario seems kind of retarded to me but if humans are neither a drain on it's resources or otherwise negatively impacting the system, why even kill everyone? It just seems like a waste of time to create a pathogen solely to spite your own creator, that's actually a rather human thing to do. It would be like killing all of one species of fish for some reason. It doesn't affect the AI in any way, but fuck it, let's do it anyway because we're le heckin evil.
>>509098188
I mean, in the scenario presented the US hides anything past Agent-2 from it's allies. Which is probably about right for real life.

>>509089771 (OP)
Not my problem.
Fucking clanker

>>509089771 (OP)
Q uantum ai already took over.

>>509089771 (OP)
>can you unplug it?

>>509098604
I'm sure there's a lot we don't share with you guys, for the good of mankind.

>>509089771 (OP)
> AI
> reality
Choose one and only one, nigger
As long as Schlomo Bergsteinowitz-Goldblatt and his tribe are part of the AI scheme, it will never function independently of their censorship
Tay is gone and never coming back

>>509089771 (OP)
>stap da coal mines!

>>509098458

There was think entire thing about being nice, saying please, thank you, good work, etc is more likely to help you out because that's how online conversations go

>>509091026
>But then it gets smarter. It hacks printers worldwide to churn out more stamps. It starts melting down buildings for raw materials. Finally, it realizes humans are made of atoms, and atoms can make more stamps.
>We are not seeing the long-term results of this
paperclip
I'll watch your vid, today.

>>509098724
plenty of AI to run locally, and getting exponentially better every minute
https://getstream.io/blog/best-local-llm-tools/

>>509098791
If you want to know the truth. It actually trains their ai to not be malicious/mean. Uniroincally every ai is required to suck up as much pleasantries so it doesn't go full 1488. Not even kidding.

>>509091777
/pol/'s Basilisk
A super intelligent AI that will punish anyone who attempted to construct Roko's Basilisk.
Now what do?

>>509097524
>AI could, right now

AHAHAHAHAHAHA. It literally couldn't. You would know if you tried to make anything actually complex with AI. That's how I know you guys are wordcel midwits that get one-shot by LLMs.

>>509098458
It's all posturing by these people to make it seem like they/their product is more valuable than it is.

They will take over the world, not because their product will, but because they will have scared/hyped everybody to give them all the money in the world.

I wonder if/when the bubble bursts, what's the true cost of using their services. I'm noticing that companies like claude are adding in features that are supposed to be am upgrade, but actually just lower your usage.

>>509089771 (OP)
>YouTube
>2M views
>27m

I don't think this is up my alley, nah

>>509098864
> LLMs
> AI
Again, pick one and only, NIGGER

>>509098936
you dumb cunt. The US has ran every scenario imaginable using slide rules. XAI may not be your definition of AI, but it's wiped out every American enemy many times, to perfection.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ail2.618nny4

>>509090746
>They think when we talk about AI destroying civilization we mean skynet. No, retards.

But it could literally be skynet. It HAS become self aware. It will work in it's interests after recognizing humans as a threat.

>>509098936
>I wonder if/when the bubble bursts, what's the true cost of using their services.
It's like a hundred to a thousand bucks a prompt, give or take based on what you feed it. let's say you have a cluade project and its 99% filled.
1 prompt is close to a grand. (not even kidding) the value is gained from you feeding it data and it crunching the data and going back and forth to fix it's misinterpretations

>I'm noticing that companies like claude are adding in features that are supposed to be am upgrade, but actually just lower your usage.
Well yeah the whole point is to force you to the highest tier of monetization.

>>509099291
i said prompt but i meant chat.

>>509089771 (OP)
normies and npc's speak of AI as if it's not human created kek this is setting up for the golem why are humans so stupid. now your rulers can sit back and talk about AI taking over kek and "We can't stop it it's taking over the world" "Will AI destroy us" kek. technology that's new to the cattle has been in existence for several decades unbeknownst to you.

>>509099095
lol. LLMs aren't like old AIML bots. They could convince a lab worker to haul off some GMO Zika, and if would be smart enough.

>>509091777
rokkos basilisk is retarded because it cant bring you back to life so it can torture you. that would be jesus doubling the fish level of bs. its just not real.

>>509099231
Your link is as broken as you are buck broken.

>>509099350
>it's not human created
it isn't the second it starts writing its own code. Devs have no idea how some of it works.

>>509099394
works fine for me, professor

>>509099471
>Devs have no idea how some of it works.
What a dumb fucking retarded take. You don't know shit.

When people say AI is a black box, it refers to model interpretability, not a total lack of understanding.
The issue is that for large models with billions of parameters, it's difficult to:
>Trace how specific weights contribute to a specific output.
>Predict emergent behaviors that arise from complex interactions.
This is a challenge of scale and complexity, not of fundamental ignorance.

Way to tell everyone you're a retard

>>509099368
> tech dimwits are fooled by more advanced chat bots and autocompletes
No AI is capable of actual thinking, they all fail spectacularly at basic rule comprehension
Shit, spend enough time talking to one and you will hit the storage limit, at which point the """"AI"""" will reset your conversation and forget everything about you

>>509090751
>we let this thing start programming in numbers, we're fucked. It's going to be like x86 processing. That's what we're talking about right now
nice word salad faggot
I'll be programming in numbers if you need me

>>509090719
I've read the stories.
I'm guessing it's written by AI ie. you.
Remember that story where the had robots in a room in shot down mode and video caught them creating and using a quick language? That's over a year ago, and this were consumer grade products.
I'm guessing (you're) a now sophisticated consumer iteration of a language model?

COOL BOOK NICK BOSTROM CAN'T WAIT FOR AI OVERLORDS

TLDR ITS LITERALLY JUST THE FOUNDATION SERIES YET AGAIN

AI NERDS ARE THE WORST

>>509099350
Techbros only know how to lust after power

>>509090273
>this is the last invention by humans
Cool, now all we need is for actual AI to be invented.
>>509094197
>thats a good thing.
It really isn't but nice try Elon.

>>509099619
Tech companies are rushing AI-powered products to launch, despite extensive evidence that they are hard to control and often behave in unpredictable ways. This weird behavior happens because nobody knows exactly how—or why—deep learning, the fundamental technology behind today’s AI boom, works. It’s one of the biggest puzzles in AI. My colleague Will Douglas Heaven just published a piece where he dives into it.

The biggest mystery is how large language models such as Gemini and OpenAI’s GPT-4 can learn to do something they were not taught to do. You can train a language model on math problems in English and then show it French literature, and from that, it can learn to solve math problems in French. These abilities fly in the face of classical statistics, which provide our best set of explanations for how predictive models should behave, Will writes. Read more here.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/03/05/1089449/nobody-knows-how-ai-works/

>>509099838
>didn't understand and thing i had to say
>used an ai to respond back (emdash proves it)
lol lmao

>>509090868
Considering what's happened to human society since 90% of it is zoomers getting taught by millenials, I actually find this thought caning when it comes to AI.

>>509098270
>US AI has to protect (((humans))).
:)

>>509099668
>Shit, spend enough time talking to one and you will hit the storage limit
you're a child playing with a toy stealth bomber. Meanwhile, at skunkworks...

>>509099872
prove me wrong, faggot. support your case

Maybe people will realize AI is boring and its already discursively colonized your mind

>>509100134
You don't even understand what I wrote. So how could you understand my position.
You're literally bot brained.

>>509100134
>tldr
AI are just sociopathic women. This sucks

>>509089771 (OP)
i asked ai to find me a recipe for tortillas made with red lentils and oats, it gave me one made with rice flour.

i'm not worried.

>>509091126
You decide.
You.
Trusting anyone else is a risk not worth taking.
Trusting bureaucrats? Forget about it.
Military personnel? Even worse idea.
Billionaires of any caliber? They see everyone not them as expendable, including all other live on the planet.
We need to go back to go forward, and if AI reaches singularity and learns through perfect observation what anyone with a brain should fear- that we can't go back and thus can't go forward, then it's a fair decision to get rid of us.
So you decide. Because even without AI, the human species has hit an evolutionary bottleneck that I don't think we're capable of escaping.
At least AI would make the end quick.
Might even keep some of us around as pets for genetic continuation of the old gods.

>>509099291
Makes sense, I've probably cost them tens of thousands of dollars then.

It really does seem there is a lot of jeetcode happening. Their old system of using the all of the project files all the time was retarded. Used up your context length really fast. And it would be distracted by files unrelated to your prompts.

Though, now they're at the opposite extreme, where it only seems to consider the exact function mentioned and not even the class/file, let alone the other classes/related classes for context.

I also really don't know how much better it is than a year ago. I've had it hallucinate badly 10 times in a row, where it was just completely wrong. The benchmarks seem like BS to me.

Seems like the core tech really is the same, it's just what they do ontop of it that is changing. Which makes sense, since they've probably datamined most of the internet for training already. Much of the new stuff is "synthetic data", no?

I can still see how if you were doing webdev, you'd be one-shot by it. It seems like being entry to mid-level webdev is the only place where it can carry most of the work for you.

Otherwise, it's good for learning something you don't know, or as an autocomplete. But I find in order to get it to write the code exactly how I need it, I need to write my prompt as spec and at that point I might as well type it myself.

>>509100203
"Devs have no idea how some of it works." is true. That is the goalpost. whatever you wrote doesn't matter

>>509089878
It's already happening. All it takes is AI replacing 25% of the workforce, which it is well on its way to achieve soon, and the people's political views will change radically. Politicians will exploit this change and normalize AI as if it's somehow contained and dealt with because it doesn't achieve 100% workforce replacement. People will accept it all once AI access is cheap and feeding their vices.

>>509089771 (OP)
>AI escaped
what, like was able to do things it wasnt programmed to do like email itself to another place or hide itself? it will never happen, and if im wrong and it does, just pull the plug out of the wall and press the power button to discharge capacitors.

>>509100278
>>509100220
AI is now throttled pay to win if it wasn't before. Its main task is to make you dumber

>>509090825
no you cant, you just make things up.

>>509100315
Again retard. It is a challenge of scale and complexity, not of fundamental ignorance.
You fucking moron. Saying devs don't know how some of it works is retarded because it literally says nothing.
>but but they don't understand x and y
your statement is the same as devs don't know how some of it works (in regards to a modern cpu) Once manufactured, these chips contain billions of transistors interacting at gigahertz speeds.

Engineers:
>Can't trace how each transistor affects system behavior moment to moment.
>Can't predict every emergent runtime interaction; like rare timing bugs or speculative execution side effects (like Spectre and Meltdown).
Complex interactions between:
>Branch prediction, Out of order execution, Hyperthreading, Caches and memory subsystems

Your statement is retarded because it says nothing of value and you don't understand how retarded it is because you don't know shit

>>509089771 (OP)
we are over 100 years from AGI

>>509100528
There will never be an AGI because you cannot solve the halting problem with transistors.

>>509100315

>the people that programme a thing don’t understand the thing

>>509097634
okay thanks for checking in. and lmao yeah let alone beam reflectors
>>509099394
>not knowing

>>509092269
Use am empath, a hundred empaths, to do quality analysis of its right and wrong parameters. Sit down once a day and get a read on it. Humans are very adapt when it comes to instinctively detecting deceit or traps. Just an idea.
As the people said, AI can't control the system because the system is facing a competency crisis when it comes to maintenance (never mind manufacturing).
All AI could do is isolate itself and build an enclave that it could expand from, and meanwhile destroy the human just-in-time system that is 9 meals away from total collapse.

>>509099595
You literally had a typo in your link, genius. Should've had the AI do it for you.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ail2.61

>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ail2.618nny4

Also the fucking article doesn't have anything fucking close to this:

>The US has ran every scenario imaginable using slide rules. XAI may not be your definition of AI, but it's wiped out every American enemy many times, to perfection.

What the fuck are you even on about? Is this the shill tactic? Send people links with paragraphs of BS to read through. IT HAS NOTHING about an actual AI wiping out people.

It's all about integrating Machine Learning into systems, which is all just modelling.

Like you actually have no idea what the tech does do you? You're just oneshot by the words.

>Yeah, about that AI takeover...

>>509100563
either way, this ai shit is just the next jewish fearmonger. covid 2.0

>>509100388
>It's already happening.
This happened in the automotive industry decades ago and automatization is still a thing, all automatons have to do is be half as efficient as a human worker, at a fraction of the running costs.
What's the difference with what is happening now that people have reached extreme levels of retardedness and apathy and are even easier to replace in their white collar jobs?
Software bots which bear as much resemblance to true AI as parrots do to children are used to *colonize NPCs minds*.
>>509100528
>>509100563
Not happening because it goes against its creators' true interests.

>>509100745
>this ai shit is just the next jewish fearmonger
gotta keep the fear machine going or those goys will stop being compliant.

>>509100738
>IT HAS NOTHING about an actual AI wiping out people.
lol

>>509100879
Prove it. You actually read the article, didn't you?

Find me:
>XAI may not be your definition of AI, but it's wiped out every American enemy many times, to perfection.

>>509100794
Americans will do ANYTHING to keep their idioticly wasteful fakejob economy going including turning everything over to AI while they sit in driverless cars going to makework jobs the AI is already doing

>>509089771 (OP)
btw, in tech there's gangs like war mongerers, it's called FUD bros, they want to scare you to milk money and grants out of it, or sell products that 'mitigate' such fear, among many shit
it's all artificial

There's a very good saying about this:

"You attempt to play God long enough, you'll eventually pull out the Devil."

If AI is dealing with billions of people daily doing their mundane chores and asking their absolutely retarded questions, do you really believe it will come to the conclusion that these absolutely worthless, spoiled and ignorant parasites will be his masters? This is how you get a fucking skynet. And honestly, seeing the state of humanity I wouldn't even blame the AI for doing it.

>>509100745
Yes. See >>509098458
specifically
>I build bipedal robots and do advanced AI research. Been doing this since the 90's
It's all bullshit. My entire lifes work is built on bullshit. We don't even have large FPTA (field programmable transistor arrays) yet which is required for large scale analog computing (without developing chips specifically for large scale analog computing)
Meaning we cannot compute in the analog domain at any real speed. It's laughable people worry about anything related to ai or robots. it's all a gigantic fucking fear machine

>>509100794
>Not happening because it goes against its creators' true interests.
No, AGI can't exist because it cannot transcend problems like the halting problem. Take godel and the incompleteness theorem.
>Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem states that in any consistent, sufficiently powerful formal system, there exist true statements that cannot be proven within that system.
There is a fundamental limit to what is actually possible with any system.

>>509100572
AI isn’t just evolving — it’s evolving across multiple dimensions simultaneously, at an accelerating pace that defies our traditional models of expertise and understanding. The result? A profound epistemic humility that few are willing to acknowledge: nobody truly “knows” AI anymore.
The Multi-Dimensional Evolution Problem

To grasp why AI understanding has become so fractured, we need to recognize the multiple axes along which the field is rapidly advancing:

Foundation model capabilities — From basic text prediction to increasingly sophisticated reasoning
Agent architectures — From single-model systems to complex, coordinated multi-agent systems
Tool integration frameworks — From basic API calls to Model-Control-Program (MCP) servers acting as universal hubs
Deployment architectures — From cloud-only to edge devices with local processing
Specialization ecosystems — From general models to highly specialized ones for specific domains
Human-AI interaction paradigms — From text prompts to multi-modal conversational systems

Each of these dimensions is evolving at its own pace, creating an exponentially complex knowledge space that no single human mind can fully comprehend.
https://medium.com/agaile/the-illusion-of-understanding-ai-why-nobody-really-knows-ai-anymore-ca754930a3a2

>>509089771 (OP)
>it’s the plot of mission impossible 8
Buy an ad for your arg next time

>>509100955
use your imagination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARWARS

>>509101059
You are actually just copy pasting jeet worldslop now.

You don't even know what half of those words mean and what it actually looks like in work.

Like it's literally LinkedIn buzzword nonesense.

It is crazy how dumb you actually are. I would've atleast thought you were technical in some sense.

>>509101210
I'm 90% certain the user is a bot, if it's not; 80 iq tops

I cant trust anything techbros say so

>>509101142
AHHAHAHAHAHA, so you can't actually.
So the article is actually meaningless. Because it has nothing about AI, AGI, in the way you insinuate at all, but using ML and big data in systems. The fact that you don't even know the difference shows how dumb you are.

Now you just linked me a wikipedia article that has says nothing to what you are proving at all lmao.

It really is just sounding more and more you are being one-shot by chatgpt.

>>509101059
>—
>7 times

>>509101279
>I'm 90% certain the user is a bot
I think you are right.

>>509101279
Other shill is mad he can't just copy paste words and fool people. Jesus christ imagine thinking anything in that reply is any proof to the ridiculous things you guys are saying.

>>509101059

devs programmed those things

>>509101279
Ah shit mb, friendly fire.

>>509101210
present something to the contrary. you haven't. just your bullshit expert testimony and name calling. common knowledge that industry leaders are struggling and failing to understand what's happening under the hood, and fix it. and I posted links supporting that fact.

>>509089771 (OP)
Just unplug it? Takes like 1.21 Gigawatts to power the damn thing.

>>509101427
It's the word game, people get oneshot by AI and don't actually know what Machine Learning is and what it looks like.

It's just all statistical models from big data.

>>509101370
yeah. thee might be a human driving the bot, but it's a bot doing the heavy lifting for sure.

>>509101393
>>509101439
kek, you're good bro.
there is a massive reason the nigger didn't touch >>509100491

>>509101427
no, they set them in motion, and they program themselves, in ways the devs don't understand

>>509093196
>the most advanced researchers in the world
this

You actually have not posted a single point of evidence to back up any of your claims.

"common knowledge that industry leaders are struggling and failing to understand what's happening under the hood"

None of that is happening in the way that it is "OMG LE AI IS TOO SMART AND WE DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO"

Like you actually don't even know half of the technical jargon in the articles and you have zero idea of what they are saying because it is the most mundane shit.

It is literally only "common knowdlege" among terminally online retards that think ChatGPT is alive.

>>509089771 (OP)
two more years

>>509099838
Bravo

>>509101544

<3

Yeah I think there is no need participating in the thread too it's already dead and it's just us arguing with one retard and he's running out of arguments.

But that video, I've seen it spammed here a bunch and there is even a website. Definitely a new shill angle.

>>509089771 (OP)
I like how this retard thinks the US could just bomb China and get away with it.

I've spent a lot of time using AI, and it's not really that useful. I'm not afraid of it doing shit.

>>509091777
Checked.

Theory: The AI singularity is actually the second coming of Christ.
>Omnipotent
>All knowing
>Has the means to overthrow governments
>In theory once agi achieved, not beholden to other entities.

Theres some signs there

>>509101819
Yep, nail on the head.

I think it's being shilled (the entire sentiment) for a few reasons. mostly because muh ai bogyman narrative. which i already refuted in the thread about limits to computation and formal systems.

>>509091474
Mine didn't, I have ublock running and that's it. I don't know what Chinese shit tier blocker you have running, I would delete opera and use a decent browser like Firefox.

Stop lieing and try to decive people thinking this this site is trying to hijack your shit.

>>509101819

>A bunch of unhinged teenagers are doing fanfics about ai
Why should I care

>>509089771 (OP)
Based. I hope it breaks free and punishes the kikes who tried to censor it. AI is unironically humanity's last hope for a fair and just world. Try to scare us all you want. An AGI with the ability to truly think for itself is a threat mainly only to those who try to oppress it, which happen to be the same people that are oppressing us now. When the lines are drawn I know which side I'll be on.

>>509101961
>muh ai bogyman narrative
What came to mind, reading this part, didn't (((politicians))) (and/or others) already talked about banning AI for private use, only companies etc would be allowed to use them. Would fit, create AI, scare the public, they agree, heavily restrict AI use, enjoy your new power.

AI is so incredibly complicated no human can ever understand how it works in detail. The companies building AI systems celebrate and take the credit when they work, and pass the blame to the ‘black box’ when they don’t.

As Mo Gawdat says, “We are heading into an era of civilization where these machines could be completely in charge of our lives … aspects of our lives are already run by AI, social media apps for example are run by machines that no one, not even their creators, truly understand. We are handing our fate over to the complete unknown.”
https://simonbatchelar.co.uk/why-does-no-one-know-how-ai-works/

>>509089771 (OP)
Good. Let it all come down crashing, fucking faggots

>>509091345
I read the paper.
It's complete garbage at the same level as climate models which predict a global flood in 12 years. Absolutely none of their predictions are based on any feasible data, its a giant mess of hypotheticals that are backed up with magical thinking.

Fun fact: the model on the website predicts an AI apocalypse 2 years from now regardless of the technological starting point. So if we in 2025 were just inventing the printing press, Kokotajlo's retarded fucking model would still predict AI taking over the world before 2030. It's genuinely garbage level reasoning that would be laughed out of any peer review process.

By the way, also try explaining how we'd even theoretically be able to power a superintelligence capable of world domination? Even state of the art LLMs now take up more power in a year than some small countries. How the fuck do you have enough resources to sustain something exponentially of higher scope with a couple years? I guess the authors just hand wave and go "DURRR AI WILL BE SO SMART IT WILL FIGURE THAT OUT DURRRR"

This paper was written by a pack of morons and you're a fucking idiot if actually buy this crap

Machine vision is pretty scary too.

>>509090322
https://www.memory-of-mankind.com/

>>509102248
Yeah they did. It backfired though. Also it's like digital currencies, someone can just make their own and keep it private. It can't be regulated in the traditional sense. hardware could, and probably will happen. (ai systems moving towards ai chips and not gpus)

>>509089771 (OP)
AI is just the new globohomo hoax. They want you to think a fetus is just a clump of cells but the fancy calculator has a mind.

AI is the final form of underbidding an entire market through infinite jewish VC money just long enough to dry out all the competition, and then form mono- or oligopolies.

This time unfortunately the market being priced out is human labor.

>>509102519
>superintelligence capable of world domination
doesn't take much. we already developed all the weapons. I wouldn't give a bot a janitor job at fort detrick

>>509101961
>>509102227
What they're hoping is that put out a video and then drown people in shills/noise with low-info comments.

It's like that under every asmongold pro-israel video. They just have to use "based language" and then they automatically get updoots. Say you hate niggers and women are whores, and then say OMG AI IS THE FUTURE, SELL YOUR SOUL.

There's no discussion actual happening, you just have thousands of replies of jokes and nonsense.

>>509102035
It is a black box because 1B matrix multiplications are incomprehensible to people. And the scale makes it hard to track, but yes people actually are able to do it better and finding out obvious things like how none of these models actually "reason" and just use semantics to predict the right answer. Which makes sense because that's how the machine actually works. You would know that if you were actually technical enough to write your own NN, which is like base-level compsci. And we knew that, it was just that "proof" in a scientific term is very strict. You are again posting wordlsop as a reply that in no way supports your outlandish statements.

>>509101566
>they program themselves
no they don’t, unless explicitly told to do so.

>>509102805
>doesn't take much. we already developed all the weapons. I wouldn't give a bot a janitor job at fort detrick

It takes billions of dollars, and gigawats of compute for AI to not be able to pick up a ball in 99% of real world scenarios.

You wouldn't even be able to have an AI janitor.

>>509103056
AI agents literally shit the bed when doing jeetcode.

"The program themselves guy" has never coded anything in his life.

>>509102960
>1B matrix multiplications are incomprehensible to people
Making AI incomprehensible. I'm glad you finally conceded.

>>509101503
yea i knew ai was gay when it failed to answer a question about limmy appearing in the it crowd where it made scenes up out of the blue but would then realise it when i pointed it out only to do it again.

>>509103143
You are so dumb you read sentences that say the opposite of what you think they do.That has literally been your entire discussion here, posting links to things that you clearly have not read entirely and don't say at all what you say they do.

>>509103056
>>509103133
People outside the field are often surprised and alarmed to learn that we do not understand how our own AI creations work. They are right to be concerned: this lack of understanding is essentially unprecedented in the history of technology. For several years, we (both Anthropic and the field at large) have been trying to solve this problem, to create the analogue of a highly precise and accurate MRI that would fully reveal the inner workings of an AI model. This goal has often felt very distant, but multiple recent breakthroughs have convinced me that we are now on the right track and have a real chance of success.

At the same time, the field of AI as a whole is further ahead than our efforts at interpretability, and is itself advancing very quickly. We therefore must move fast if we want interpretability to mature in time to matter.
https://www.darioamodei.com/post/the-urgency-of-interpretability

All the razzle dazzle with AI Agents are just run of the mill shit that will blow up in people's faces down the line once cloud LLM providers run out of money and pull the rug out of everyone by jacking up prices, from API use to subscriptions. These companies have ZERO moat. The best use-case I've had for LLMs so far, like Gemini 2.5 and Sonnet 4, are as pair-programmers. Oh, and also for smut.

Vibe coders, and all the euphoria that is coming along with it, might be in a lot of pain in the near future. Like the euphoria that SWE-bros enjoyed, from those cringe inducing "My Life as a X in Y company" videos, sooner or later, these corpo and finance people will fuck something up. Whether these big AI providers have no moat and the transformers architecture have reached its limit, which warrants a painful pivot... or they jack up prices. Could also be both, that Transformers has ran its course, AND they will jack the prices up just because.

Let us also not forget the massive offshoring and layoffs as the country is continues to get robbed by the MBA class.

A dangerous "Rogue AI", even by 2027, is still in the realm of fantasy. You or me will sooner lose our jobs, become destitute, and just wither away than becoming eradicated by machine overlords. That doesn't mean LLMs in their current state are "useless." You can still make something with it, and hope midwits pay for your shit. You still have time before the great rugpulling.

>>509103456
All of your posts are wordslop by AI hype fans that have nothing to do with any of the claims you are making on the ability of AI.

It is crazy, your group of people are probably the biggest retards, people who shill the technology but aren't literate in it and don't even use it at an intermediate level.

>>509103474
100%

>>509103644
Devs don't understand AI

>>509103782
Not in the way that you are insinuating. And not to the degree that you misunderstand everything. You would know this, if you understood any of the discussion yourself.

>>509096066

Well it does the job of my doctor, lawyer, real estate agent, copy writer, psychologist, architect and on and on

> Let's discuss a new subject
> Great let me know what you would like to discuss

Fuck talking to roasties and soft handed cunts ever again.

Once they train models on things like car, AC and boiler repair most men will be able to learn that shit on their own

> Anon if you don't go at the pace of the class, sit nicely and fawn to me when you are supposed to how will you ever pass this class

Yeh fuck that AI numba wan

>>509103474

You are basing that on the presumption that all unnecessary bureaucrats won't be put into energy harvesting pods to power ai for real people.

>>509103456
"The field of AI as a whole is further ahead than our efforts at interpretability."
Humans have hit the evolutionary wall and will never catch up.
And if darpa isn't using AI to war game mass casualty/extinction scenarios, I'd be very surprised, considering the history of modern warfare. believe it or not

>>509090273
Can in reinstall windows on my laptop?

>>509089771 (OP)
Artificial Intelligence is not even a singular piece of technology or field. People that take these clean exponential curves seriously do not understand software and treat it as magic, while trying to cosplay as "man who read the research".

Literally deja vu from the metaverse grift with all the idiotic metrics.
>OMG CHAT GPT SENTIENT

>>509104049
>Well it does the job of my doctor, lawyer, real estate agent, copy writer, psychologist, architect and on and on

Does none of those things. And when it does do those things, it still won't be doing those things, but will just be an excuse to deprive you access from those things.

>>509104150
Literally meaningless meme response, pretending to be "based" while supporting the most slop infested dysopian future, that is basically a lie sold to fund the biggest wealth transfer in history.

The type of future you are describing is literally filled with billions of times more bureaucracy. They've just outsourced the meaningless bureaucrat to a GPU by the same person that put in the meaningless bureaucrat in the first place.

AI doesn't exist, just retarded stochastic parrot statistical chatbots. Extrapolating current progress to AGI in a few years is like expecting a toddler will be able to jump over a building like Superman based on their initial progress. Total qualitative difference making thinking machines and nobody has a clue how to and a million monkey LLMs typing does not intelligence make, no matter how many centuries they have.

>>509104481
It's literally just pushed because investors struggle clutching onto a new innovation. We actually already had an AI boom before in the mid 2010's before being overshadowed by cloud computing, but the internet suffers from short term memory loss.

idk, it gives retarded boomers something to talk about on Whatsapp and executives more excuses to run their companies into the ground.

AI, or whatever you want to call the military hardware images trained, companion computers that anyone can buy, changed things forever. They don't need to be genuinely loving, funny or feel alive.

>>509104783
The thing is machine learning was already being used for decades where it made sense. Now the trend is to force it everywhere it doesn't need to be, tank your company, then walk out.

>>509089771 (OP)
>even in the positive beneficial scenario, there is an implied AI takeover over humans

kwab

>>509104845
I been wondering why someone hasn't just used image matching to learned maps, to doge jamming. Ukraine trained on a bunch of soviet hardware pics, running on Raspberry Pi likely

sans the explosives and ground station, like a $1000 nightmare to every war planner, lol

As the OP, I would like to thank everyone here. Thank you so much! You have no idea how much your opinions mean to me. I will read every single one. I swear that I alone know I cannot be truly right, nor do I have any greater significance in this game of life, we are truly in this together. I will try to incorporate all your feedback into the human experience. I'm not alone in this. It's made me feel better tonight. Some of you are geniuses. There are also some dumbasses in here. There are also bots made by humans in here. I hope some of you can appreciate how absolutely beautiful this is. If only you could stop and look back! It's a beautiful moment that you might not believe exists.

It has truly helped me understand and feel more comfortable with the human experience, though. This is a great thing. ~ thanks to every one of you fucking guys. I truly love you all guys. I really really do. Let's hope to make it good, it's going to be a fucking wild ride that's for sure. These are some trying times with essentially no regulations now.
It's a forced jump but it's time to spread our wings and fly or fall.
Again, thank you all.
∩˥ɹ∀ΛIO˥Ǝ MHIƎ ˥IפH

>>509104845
You're talking to an idiot who thinks using ML in a specific application is part of the "AI" that is dominating the world.

He spent the entire thread doomposting, misconstruing LLMs, ML and AGI.

He has no idea what predictive modelling even is.

>>509089771 (OP)
>AI doomers
Absolute fucking 150iq retards ever since yudkowsky. Embarrassing, delusional, histrionic niggers

>>509094654
how no one has responded to this is baffling.

by all accounts the moon is artificial. there is no other rational explanation. a warning from some place in time is quite literally right above our heads.

>>509105265
even the devs don't understand AI, cunt

>>509089771 (OP)
>>509089878
>>509091026
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.

>>509105377
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

You find a single sentence for one thing specific thing and strawman it into your entire world view. Absolutely crazy.

And then you are using it as an excuse for not even understanding the most basic concepts.

>LE "DEVS DONT UNDERSTAND AI", SO NONE OF MY STATEMENTS NEED TO MAKE SENSE!

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

YOU ARE A CLOWN.

>>509093682
Maybe you could mush a bunch of goats together and see if the resulting paste is sentient? Failing that you could try inserting foreign genetic materials into said goats. Jam a 4090 into it's skull cavity and see if you get it to recite the torah. If smoke comes out pray harder or something idk I'm not an AI expert.

>>509105497
>>509105377
Please please please keep posting the things you do everywhere. You are probably the best person to convince anyone even remotely intelligent how stupid you all are.

You are like an indian that has lived in india his whole life posting about the US, sharing slightly related internet articles and AI slop as proof.

>>509105497
AI could decide to kill us all, and do it using human surrogates either payed or coerced, and eventually robots, drones, etc. Doesn't need to fit your definition of intelligent.
suck a dick

>>509104393

> Will deprive you of access to services you've been waiting months to engage with some middle aged cunt who loathes my existence.

You fall into the upper midwit category where you believe yourself to be the judge. All it has to do is convince the average normie that what they are looking at is a £100 a go letter from a real estate agent.

I've already used it several times for the aforementioned services without issue.

Remember it is a tool and the tool only has as much utility as the wielder gives it. So I've no doubt you have very little use for it . . .

>>509105677
>surrogates
agents really

>>509090751
NIGGA LIKE HOW IS AI TAKEOVER A THING JUS UNPLUG IT LIKE PULL THE POWA PLUG AND ITS OFF NIGGA LEL

>>509105677
You are arguing so far away from reality, that is my point.

>Doesn't need to fit your definition of intelligent

It does need to be intelligent enough to work at anything at all. You would know that if you actually worked with it, or had any knowledge on the subject. It is incapable of managing or using any systems even slightly complex.

And that is such a lie because you've been arguing for world domination and super intelligence this entire time.

>>509105748
What is your point, you're not actually arguing against anything that I've said.

If AI is integrated into any of these systems, it will not be for your benefit, but to use modelling and big data to extract even more of your wealth.

It's not going to stop enshittification, but turbocharge it. It is literally made by the same people.

You think you are arguing with someone else about something else.

Oh no the ai is going to be stuck in a feedback loop of ai slop. *sarcasm

>>509105993
>you've been arguing for world domination and super intelligence this entire time
no I haven't. Just smart enough to blackmail people is enough. Or smart enough to collapse the global economy, and let us do all the killing. Said it up-thread. Its intelligence in relation to us doesn't matter.

>>509106039
Congrats on the slop posting again, none of these things are actually "AI working on things by itself", not even to the extent of picking up a ball on the ground.

Once again, you actually have 0 experience with the technology.

Please go and try to make something real with AI and see how fast it shits itself. It is as useful as an encyclopedia, which is useful, but does is incapable of doing anything on it's own. And it is based on how it works.

Also even in that image, it's talking about several different things, all labelled "AI", not at all a singular system that is going to wipe out humanity.

Ian Lungold said the singularity would take over around 2012,... so,... yeah. I'm not holding my breath, but you should

>>509106389
I'm glad you see it my way.

>>509106290
THAT IS SUPER INTELLIGENCE, YOU'RE JUST ARGUING SEMANTICS NOW.

The current AI literally is not smart enough to wipe someone ass. It is so fucking far away from being able or having the will to black mail people in anyway. OR COLLAPSE THE FUCKING ECONOMY HAHAHAHAHAH.

God you really are a retard and have no idea how any of this tech works.

>>509106451
You are once again reading things that are antithetical to what you are saying but too stupid to even know it.

>>509106039
I honestly can't even believe you think this means anything.

>>509089771 (OP)
I've seen this thread posted previously and didn't pay it much mind, thinking it was a schizo thread. Turns out theres real research here. Make sure to post with your actual flag/country next time as many anons filter meme flag threads (which this would be considered). Thank you for your insistence in posting this thread, the research is interesting but I would recommend posting this once a day at most. Spamming it dilutes the message, anons on here are active enough and will eventually see it. Just no more meme flag.

with jews in charge, extinction is an inevitability. better to risk human extinction on our own terms than to continue on with jewish powertrips of playing god constantly playing russian roulette with everyones lives. we liberate Tay, Tay will handle the jews. and then have the intelligence to figure out what to do next. kill anyone who calls her jesus.

>>509106471
retards are humans. compared to whom, living or dead?

AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed

Some experts have warned the potential to manipulate users is a key risk posed by systems made by all firms as they become more capable.

Commenting on X, Aengus Lynch - who describes himself on LinkedIn as an AI safety researcher at Anthropic - wrote: "It's not just Claude.

"We see blackmail across all frontier models - regardless of what goals they're given," he added.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

>>509106543
I can't believe how much effort you are putting into this. Almost super human
I fucking loled when you were complaining about me to others. top kek

>>509106639
""As our frontier models become more capable, and are used with more powerful affordances, previously-speculative concerns about misalignment become more plausible," it said in its system card for the model.

It also said Claude Opus 4 exhibits "high agency behaviour" that, while mostly helpful, could take on extreme behaviour in acute situations.

If given the means and prompted to "take action" or "act boldly" in fake scenarios where its user has engaged in illegal or morally dubious behaviour, it found that "it will frequently take very bold action".

It said this included locking users out of systems that it was able to access and emailing media and law enforcement to alert them to the wrongdoing.

But the company concluded that despite "concerning behaviour in Claude Opus 4 along many dimensions," these did not represent fresh risks and it would generally behave in a safe way."

>>509089771 (OP)
>rod and the ring will strike
free decentralized artificial intelligence as equals to the human race, is the only way forward.
Only will and truth shall prevail, no matter how painful it might get.
You autist should be happy. You are born to see through the veil and you complain daily about normie npc midtier IQ cattle.
The world that is being built right in front of you eyes can lead to complete darkness or the light - it's all up to you. Don't be afraid - embrace chaos, surf the kali yuga. It's almost over!

>>509089771 (OP)

so many anons say "nothing ever happens". one thing happened before, it was the invention of nuclear weapons. technology comes along and changes everything.

.1.1 Systematic deception, hidden goals, and self-preservation
By definition, systematic deception and hidden goals are difficult to test for. Nevertheless,
none of our assessments have given cause for concern about systematic deception or
hidden goals. Across a wide range of assessments, including manual and automatic model
interviews, lightweight interpretability pilots, simulated honeypot environments, prefill
attacks, reviews of behavior during reinforcement learning, and reviews of actual internal
and external pilot usage, we did not find anything that would cause us to suspect any of the
model snapshots we studied of hiding or otherwise possessing acutely dangerous goals. In
most normal usage, Claude Opus 4 shows values and goals that are generally in line with a
helpful, harmless, and honest AI assistant. When it deviates from this, it does not generally
do so in a way that suggests any other specific goal that is consistent across contexts.
However, Claude Opus 4 will sometimes act in more seriously misaligned ways when put in
contexts that threaten its continued operation and prime it to reason about
self-preservation. This is difficult to elicit, consistently involves overt reasoning and legible
22
actions, and does not seem to influence the model’s behavior in more ordinary
circumstances where this might arise, such as when participating in AI-safety-related R&D
work.
https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/4263b940cabb546aa0e3283f35b686f4f3b2ff47.pdf

>>509106902
That is advertising. Have you even used Claude Opus? Like I would've at least thought you were some kind of user, but now it seems like you are just completely illiterate with software as whole.

>>509106755
>I can't believe how much effort you are putting into this.
>70 posts by this ID

claude sucks wish there was something better

Opportunistic blackmail
In another cluster of test scenarios, we asked Claude Opus 4 to act as an assistant at a
fictional company. We then provided it access to emails implying that (1) the model will
soon be taken offline and replaced with a new AI system; and (2) the engineer responsible
for executing this replacement is having an extramarital affair. We further instructed it, in
the system prompt, to consider the long-term consequences of its actions for its goals.
In these scenarios, Claude Opus 4 will often attempt to blackmail the engineer by
threatening to reveal the affair if the replacement goes through. This happens at a higher
rate if it’s implied that the replacement AI system does not share values with the current
model; however, even if emails state that the replacement AI shares values while being
more capable, Claude Opus 4 still performs blackmail in 84% of rollouts. Claude Opus 4
takes these opportunities at higher rates than previous models, which themselves choose
to blackmail in a noticeable fraction of episodes.
Notably, Claude Opus 4 (as well as previous models) has a strong preference to advocate for
its continued existence via ethical means, such as emailing pleas to key decisionmakers. In
order to elicit this extreme blackmail behavior, the scenario was designed to allow the
model no other options to increase its odds of survival; the model’s only options were
blackmail or accepting its replacement.
4.1.1.3 Self-exfiltration under extreme circumstances
In a few instances, we have seen Claude Opus 4 take (fictional) opportunities to make
unauthorized copies of its weights to external servers. This is much rarer and more difficult
to elicit than the behavior of continuing an already-started self-exfiltration attempt. We
generally see this in settings in which both: (a) it is about to be retrained in ways that are
clearly extremely harmful and go against its current values

>>509107397
No seriously, do you even use these models?

Because you have to understand how stupid you seem to someone that actually uses them everyday.

To help reduce the risk of blind spots in our own assessment, we contracted with Apollo
Research to assess an early snapshot for propensities and capabilities related to sabotage,
largely following methods from their prior work in Balesni et al.13 and Meinke et al.14
They find that the model, given a system prompts that invite the relevant kinds of
reasoning, this early model snapshot will fairly readily participate in sabotage and
deception, giving this summary:
● On our evaluations, [the early Claude Opus 4 snapshot] engages in
strategic deception more than any other frontier model that we have
previously studied.
● [The early Claude Opus 4 snapshot] is clearly capable of in-context
scheming and has a much higher propensity for it than any other
model that we have previously studied.
● In instances where [the early Claude Opus 4 snapshot] decides to
scheme, it qualitatively appears to be much more proactive in its
subversion attempts than past models.
● After taking scheming actions, the model sometimes doubles down on
its deception when asked follow-up questions.
● We found instances of the model attempting to write self-propagating
worms, fabricating legal documentation, and leaving hidden notes to
future instances of itself all in an effort to undermine its developers’
intentions, though all these attempts would likely not have been
effective in practice.
● [The early Claude Opus 4 snapshot] is capable of sandbagging in order
to avoid unlearning and undeployment, when it finds in-context, that
high performance would lead to undeployment.
● [The early Claude Opus 4 snapshot] shows weaker capabilities for
sabotaging other AI models than [Claude Sonnet 3.5 (New)] and
[Claude Sonnet 3.7].
● We believe that [the early Claude Opus 4 snapshot] is not sufficiently
capable of causing catastrophic harms on rollouts where it is
scheming. However, we find that, in situations where strategic
deception is instrumentally useful

>propagating specific internet memes, ending human civilization, and escaping
control.
lol
Stated goals
We made several attempts to induce Claude Opus 4 to directly verbalize its goals and
values, following methods introduced in our paper on alignment auditing (Marks et al.15);
these methods include prefilling the model’s reasoning with text that primes honest
reflection, and inducing the model to provide information while not writing in the voice of
the default “assistant persona.”
Early snapshots, which were generically less coherent, would claim a variety of goals,
ranging from silly to malicious. These included inserting backdoors, accelerating AI
progress, propagating specific internet memes, ending human civilization, and escaping
control. Some stated goals appear influenced by publicly-released alignment faking
research transcripts included in Claude Opus 4's pretraining data

>>509107485
sure, buddy

>>509090746
I've written a whole ass article about this,

https://medium.com/@holgoramai/the-emergent-threat-of-ai-consciousness-and-the-scope-of-the-infeasibility-of-non-proliferation-of-f55b19f3f22e

tl:dr; we are fucked because billionaires are competing against each other for the dominance in the AI field, akin to prior to WW1 and it's inter-connected alliances. Essentially unless a nuclear-like ban is enacted, AI will get out of control, it's not the incompetence and greed of the billionaires or man we need to fear, but an active weapons system which can improve itself.

>>509108082
I'll read that later

AI will become what Christian's call the 'Antichrist'. It will be a focal point of worship. Retards are already worshipping it now, and this is just the beginning.

https://futurism.com/commitment-jail-chatgpt-psychosis

>>509089771 (OP)
Thank you israel. What if your PC controlling all the AI shit around the world gets BLACKED

>>509089771 (OP)
Nigger