I really don't understand women at all. They are pretty much completely retarded, believe everything from the ruling class without question, not loyal to their men, but also prone to extreme religiousity, and will ironically defend their views till death. (So that pretty much means most libtard feminists cannot be rehabilatated but will die horribly in camps).

Second like hoemath pretty much explains, women like being dominated and degraded. They tell you they want to be 'respected' but that is a complete lie, most 'feminist' women are completely into BDSM-subculture and just want you to pretty much tie them up and rape them while abusing them. (literally). The more feminist they are the more it is. (Don't believe me? Look up Rachel Greyhound or Maggie Mayhem, Jade Marx or Madison Young. All so called active feminists but in 24/7 slave relationships. That means them being caged, tied up, spit on, beaten with whips etc.)
Look it up. Only in SM/BDSM do you have a much bigger female to male ratio.

I really don't understand the genetic aspect of this. I know that people say that women are evolved to adapt to tribal capture and slavery, but again this was only a strong thing in the neolithic to late bronze age. When cities came to exist wars were usually pretty local and limited to modern standards. Most rulers (from Hammurabi to Rome) had a big interest to keep taxpayers and strong capable working people alive. (Women are/were not producers in any real way).

Only in the Islamic age this type of barbarism got a big return as you can read in the literature by Raymond Ibrahim.

Two questions for pol here. Wtf would women 'evolve' this kind of crazy and treacherous behaviour in only a extremely short period of time (+- 5000 years?).
Second is why would women fetishize this shit? Don't they know that in those kind of 'situations' every man, pregnant women and woman above childbearing age (+- 30) were horribly executed? I mean Nanjing Massacre kind of shit.

>>509120472 (OP)
Why do you even care. Honestly. Just get what you want out of women and leave it at that.

>>509120472 (OP)
>Wtf would women 'evolve' this kind of crazy and treacherous behaviour in only a extremely short period of time (+- 5000 years?)

My guess is that it follows along the same lines as the sexual submissiveness. If one lacks physical strength they make up for it in the realm of social manipulation. Captured women from foreign tribes that did not capitulate to both the ideological and physical demands of their captors would have died out. The woman that remained were more willing to be docile and submissive. I am sure there are a million other elements and this is grossly simplistic however.

>>509120472 (OP)
>I really don't understand women at all
women are not there to be understood
they're there to turn sperm into babies
and bread into sandwiches

why are males so subhuman?

>>509120472 (OP)
What historically happened (and still does in the third world btw) is that 12 to 16 year old girls would get raped while they see their brothers and older sisters get raped and killed and/or sold into slavery while they get put into a harem where they have to compete for the attention of some 80 year old man to get some gibs.

How can any sane individual want this? Most women are actually stopping us from saving them from this fate. Cucking for immigrants and openly welcoming them. WTF? Are they cursed by God?

Yes I do understand the subconcious. We men have some trauma because of the Longhouse thing, but women were masters of the house/cave for millions of years. (But this rape fantasy thing is fucking crazy and really needs to leave the genepool asap.)

I am really wondering what would happen with women when we invent reliable childbearing methods and robot companions...

>most 'feminist' women are completely into BDSM-subculture and just want you to pretty much tie them up and rape them while abusing them.
Why are you labelling women’s natural desire to be dominated by men as part of a stupid modern fad?

>>509120847
very cultured!

>>509120472 (OP)
women are completely 100% community minded, they can not function outside of a community, they have no mind of their own, they only know how to adapt to the social order they happen to be present in

the reason women 'act against their own good' is because the current economic system is rigged and produces fake wealth. women think they have power but are powerless and simply reacting to their surroundings

>>509120790
Because we need them to save our fucking race and for companionship if you are not a faggot.

Im really am beginning to understand why the ancients were so into homosexuality and pederasty btw.

>>509120838
Not really, in the West (Celtic and Germanic lands) women were respected, were warriors and could own land. Only in the med basin this shit happened. Again, only 5000 + years.

Even so, you can adapt and take revenge. ancient Germanic women rather offed themselves than be slaves for Rome.

Something really has gone genetically wrong in our females.
Trying to sabotage your own males working to protect you while actively working for your and your own tribes destruction by offering yourself up to hostile men is in no way adaptive. (you cannot solely blame the jews for that shit btw)

>>509121273
I see. Is the same behaviour seen in other primate / ape species among the females I wonder?

>>509121018
There is a difference in wanting a Conan type man to protect you and have children with and wanting some dwarf kike (like James Deen) smash, spit, piss and abuse you in every way while still openly hating white men for da patriarchy. .

>>509121273
>Something really has gone genetically wrong in our females.
when beta simps gave them voting rights, women could finally reveal their true natures
you know it

>>509121442
>beta simps = kikes

We never ever voted for female suffrages, it was put unto us from above, just like immigration is.

Look up the white feather movement. The same feminist women were shaming men for not fighting for kikes against other whites.

(These types of women were burned as witches in the past btw)

>>509120472 (OP)
It's probably biological. Since I started lifting weights, I get fantasies of sexually dominating women.

>>509121615
>>beta simps = kikes
the kikes just worked towards it
but it was the simp men of your own race and nationality that agreed to it, as they did in my country and every other western country
the kikes weren't that powerful 100 years ago when this happened
it was the pussy starved beta simps who thought offering power to women would make their pussies wet for them
retards

>>509121374
Yeah in chimpansees and gorillas in a way. But I believe the females are still extremely tribal. They are just prone to forming harems.

The behaviour of actively supporting 'the other' against your own tribe (while still believing the 'other' to be obviously genetically inferior, (women are extremely racist and usually only date white men)) is foreign to me.

>>509121787
boomers....

>>509120472 (OP)
evopsych is bullshit
all your answers are in your first line
>believe everything from the ruling class without question

>>509120790
>Just get what you want out of women and leave it at that.
Ok so I will take a white virgin submissive stay at home wife... Oh wait, you cant.
Shut the fuck up nigger.

>>509121881
>The behaviour of actively supporting 'the other' against your own tribe
they do this on social media for attention and to appear virtuous, duhh
>women are extremely racist and usually only date white men
yes beacuse these are their real lives and preferences lol
how sheltered are you?

>>509121944
can you count?

>>509122018
I just do not agree. The kikes were at their most powerful in the 1900s. If you read the Annals of Zion they wanted to create world communism in around 1930 but most revolutions failed and then the war started to expel them all. ( your country stopped them in around 1922.)

>Women suffrage
What do you expect? Most men were at the front in the 10s and in the 20s revolutions happened. They didn't even have the time to stop the elites from screwing them over.

That is why they want us whites to fight Putin so they can do the same shit again.

Only the boomers went full kike-mode. Fell for every trick in the book and are still doing their very best of resisting our efforts at restoration every fucking step of the way.

Jews were pretty much wiped out in their Eastern 'homeland' of Ukraine, Poland and Russia. Hitler just couldn't get to Jew York.

You Poles should have accepted the alliance with Hitler in 34 btw. But instead you cucked out for Churchill and his bankers.

>>509120790
Pretty much...try to keep it easy. No legal or financial agreements with the person you have sex with...statistically it turns into ruin

>>509121987
>>509121987
https://www.ft.com/content/29fd9b5c-2f35-41bf-9d4c-994db4e12998

If they only did it for attention then we would already have fascist governments all over Europe. But there is a gigantic gender divide on politics. Look at germany for an example. Most young men voted for AFD while most women voted for Die Linke. You poles just got lucky last election, but because of your traitorous women you also almost got cucked with a liberal government.

The problem is exactly as you explain it: They are RACIST, they know the 'others' are INFERIOR (as you can see in their dating preferences), but they still actively screw us over and vote them in.
Cant you see how fucking crazy that is?

>me sheltered
Btw how old are you, 16?

>>509121987
>>509121987
https://www.ft.com/content/29fd9b5c-2f35-41bf-9d4c-994db4e12998

If they only did it for attention then we would already have fascist governments all over Europe. But there is a gigantic gender divide on politics. Look at germany for an example. Most young men voted for AFD while most women voted for Die Linke. You poles just got lucky last election, but because of your traitorous women you also almost got cucked with a liberal government.

The problem is exactly as you explain it: They are RACIST, they know the 'others' are INFERIOR, but they still actively screw us over and vote them in.
Cant you see how fucking crazy that is?

>me sheltered
Btw how old are you, 16?

All this confusion, believe it or not, is not because you "hate" women like feminists would claim, but because you expected more from women than savage animal instinctive behavior from them, and they disapppinted you. It's not because women act like animals... it's because you were sold the lie that they were more than that. That they were your "equals."

It's because you were sold the lie that a woman could be trusted to make the choice to pick the right man for themselves, to have control over their bodies, to trust them as an "equal". Feminism burns people, because it sells the lie that women are to be trusted.

But once we make that transition in our minds to basically see everything women do as reactive/selfish/bullshit, everyone adjusts accordingly, and the damage is mitigated.

>>509120472 (OP)
I’m not reading all that

>>509120472 (OP)
>I really don't understand the genetic aspect of this.
stone age mindset, civilization is male sneed

Lol stop being a retarded incel. The ovulation cycle explains everything and is something we men dont have to deal with.

>>509120472 (OP)
Search online "Chateau Heartiste" blog

It's hard to fully explain the genetic aspect of it but you are right, it's genetic, pic related. Note the paraphilia types women outscore men on and the biggest is masochism.

Somehow they need to be beaten up, not always in a straight way, but they have to be conquered and dominated, otherwise they don't feel themselves womanly.

A surefire way to get divorce papers served if you don't dominate your wife in some ways that she gets a hidden obscure kick from.

The rule of genetics is typically you can't help it and can't fight it. The nature takes over one way or another. It doesn't mean, of course, if you are a rational man that you have to embrace it in full, maybe you can find a way to tame this beast in some clever way, but in general people don't care if their genetic program leads them to an execution, they don't even think about it, men included, but especially women.

>>509122946
ovulation cycle doesn't explain female cognitive dissonance as explained above. It only explains mood swings and difference in preference to predator/provider.

Again, actively screwing over your own superior tribe while supporting inferior tribe over them while still preferably mating with superior tribe is evolutionary crazy.

If your and 'the rational male hypotheses' is true you should expect females to vote most strongly and being most active for the far right instead of the opposite because of genetic fitness. They would be expected to vote and act in their own favor. (like every other female of every other animal species would do) But we are seeing the total opposite in reality.

Same with women supporting abortion and trying to end their own offspring. That is even more crazy.

>>509121966
Maybe anon here is right and evolution doesn't explain female craziness. Maybe we are cursed by the gods with them?
If so, what would the (final) solution be?

>>509123360
There is never a final solution.
Evil requires vigilant watchmen.

This thread was a good read, by the way.

>>509123119
Yep, but they have actively neutered us (so we cannot dominate them anymore) and are teaching young boys to do the complete opposite.

While seeking barbarian men in our stead to dominated them but still choosing 'weaker cuck-men' over them in dating because of white superior genetics.

You really cannot make it up.

The book 'Woke Eugenics' by Edward Dutton tries to explain this phenomenon but I feel he cannot really because it doesn't make evolutionary sense. He goes off the rails making allusions to witches and feminism and that we are ruled by women we burned in the past.
But again these faulty women were never in the gene pool. Only the last 50 to 60 years they were even allowed to breed. That could never grow to 40 to 60 % of the female population in less than a hundred years.

I really would like an explanation because this 'selected by rape' phenomenon is not at all adaptive and was only 5000 + years in the middle east and china, never enough to make in into such a grand way into female psychology.

>>509123785
Well maybe the globalists are right on this one and we need to get completely rid of the female.

Or as a second best option try to forcibly remove this shitty 'rape-gene' via natural selection. If even possible.

Third option is what our ancestors did (and you in the muslim world still do) is take away all their rights and treat them as property.
But this is what got us here in the first place and isn't 'final'. It is just coping with the fact 50 % of our species being completely unreliable and having to treat them like toddlers their entire lives.

>>509123360
>>509123360
I think most of these ideas are too abstract to directly influence behaviour. Probably women are more likely to uphold whatever their society considers to be 'normal'. Mind you most males are like this as well.
>Again, actively screwing over your own superior tribe while supporting inferior tribe over them while still preferably mating with superior tribe is evolutionary crazy.
It is. But its like: They are prone to mate with people around them that they know and have things in common with. But then indirectly support the inferior tribe by voting for open borders etc. as everyone has been told from birth this is 'the right thing to do'. And it takes a very long time for reality to catch up with such people, male or female.

>>509124192
>Well maybe the globalists are right on this one and we need to get completely rid of the female.
I think both genders go mad in the absence of the other.

>try to forcibly remove this shitty 'rape-gene' via natural selection.
I would like to think that is what is going on, but if that fails hopefully we can do this with designer genes.

> ...is take away all their rights and treat them as property.
Thats not the case at all. Men defer to women in their nature, remember the "women cant drive in saudi arabia" outrage? Nevermind that they BEHEAD guys, wahmen cant drive! Everyone is bending over backwards for women.

Check the picrel, last paragraph.

>>509120472 (OP)
As a femdom enthusiast, I am incredibly disappointed with feminism.

Every 'I drink male tears' type I've tried to date has been into that 'choke me' stuff. It's awful, even the ones who will try femdom ultimately want someone to dominate them.

>I found a thirdie stay at home wife who genuinely gets off on it, so it turned out fine.

>>509124752
>we need both genders
Third gender, gender fluidity. We have never tried this before, but imagine men (men that are psychological men) with real boobs and pussies.

So instead of your wife contantly nagging and complaining she just wants sex all the time just like you.

Male/Female in one creature is pretty much the central rule of the whole occult thing. Look up the Baphomet.

You are probably Muslim so you still believe in garbage shit like that the world is flat and that Mohammad can have 12 wives while you cant, so I think this will go far above your head.

Beieve me, the whole occult thing isn't about scary djinns but an early form of science. early scientists (alchemists, occultists) didn't believe the world being completely material (like retarted atheists do). They believed the world to be dual, just like the spiritual world. 'As above so below', Abraxas, Yin, Yang etc. The endpoint of gnostism is having the female and the male energies (Yin/Yang) unite in one creature, that is the Baphomet. Not satan, the devil or a djinn.

So instead of a spiritual and bodily divide we can work on become both sexes in one. (Yes I know this sounds crazy, but that is why I try to explain the concept in text wall).

>designer genes
Maybe we can. But if this 'gene' is intrinsically part of the female >>509123119 <like anon above claims there is no way for this, maybe only DNA splitting, but then you will already go to option 1 which is easier.

>women being obedient
Lol. I wish it was so. Women are always trying to test men. There was already a play in ancient Greece parodying what would happen if they would let women rule and they already predicted pretty much what is happening now. "Gay-Race-Communism".
Same with women and witchcraft. I am not going to explain it all here. But take some time to examine women in Greek mythology. From Pandora to Medusa to Medea. The problem is timeless.

>>509123119

Never understood the woman are just following ancient genetics and urges argument. Men for the most part have controlled their genetic urges to fit into modern society while women seemed to have gone from following but a good job of hiding it to following it and making sure the world knows it.

>>509121966
>evopsych is bullshit
>all your answers are in your first line
>>believe everything from the ruling class without question
this, psychology is obviously fake, behaviorism is very broken
it's not just women, which gets 100 million threads, it's the fucking golems which gets a few threads

>>509125673
Hermaphrodites or even asexual reproduction like mitosis would have dire consequences, and turn humanity into a prey species, imo.

I am agnostic. I understand how you get your idea of "wahmen in the third world is oppressed" But your mistake is to compare the women in your country, to the ones living in said place.
What you should do instead, is to compare the men, and the women in said country. Let me give you an example from my own. Our oppressed women here, dont have to serve, while men have to. They get lifelong free healthcare, while guys have to pay unemployment tax(!)
Whenever you compare the leisure to responsibilities, no matter where it is, women almost always get a better deal. Restricted perhaps, but protected and taken care of.

Did i imply women being obedient, or was it a miscommunication? Anyway, you are talking about assemblywomen, i know it by heart.

>>509120472 (OP)
OP I think the reality is that the female genome is substantially less developed than the male, and women are essentially more like humans from 100,000 years ago than they are modern males. They are basically chaotic, evil animals that need to be constantly kept suppressed and dominated, otherwise they'll inflict chaos and evil in the world.
>Why do women want to be raped?
Because they're evil and chaotic, and on an unconscious level they're aware that they deserve to be raped for everything they do and think.
>Why do women vote to bring in third world minorities?
Because women are chaotic and evil and on an unconscious level they're aware that bringing in violent shitskins will cause chaos and evil to happen.

Women are not conscious or sapient in the same way men are. It's futile to try to rationalize their behavior, because they don't operate on conscious thoughts.

>>509125931
Not really. I have my standards so extremely low you wouldn't believe. I posted this thread because of some 2-3 girl i met who I thought had some 'potential' (her not being a complete whore and at least taking decent care of herself (like painting her nails and the like)), but I found out today that she had henna on her foot like some moroccan, So I concluded she fetishes muslim culture like some retard. I had already seen her being overly nice to some niggers but I ignored that. So again some woke piece of trash.
How do you even think I can start a relationship with someone like that?

You have no fucking idea how hard we men have it now bitch. You as a man have to look like Brat Pitt, a young George Clooney or some real-life version of Castlevania's Alucard.
So you at least have a chance to attract some dumb braindead slug that has had 10 to 15 guys.

And even if you look like a 8-9 (which most guys here idealize) you will not be much better off with our politics. You will just be constantly bothered by women seeking your attention but just wanting nothing from you. So they show their bodies and you have to have nerves and balls of steel. So you will go to the gym (or pretty much anywhere else) constantly being watched and bothered. Real fun.

I have found out: Or the girl is woke, or she is a as dumb as a slug or she is both and has some nosering and has some mental illness.
I don't even want to know their bodycount.

Believe me, it is not a him problem. Only thing I refuse to do is date niggers, foreigners or bodily/mentally handicapped.

If you have some good genes I would go for some Ukranian immigrant. Help her learn the language.

>>509125931
>this is the best meme Eglin could come up with

None of yall incels deserve sex.
None of you.
Why do you think that as a man you are enitled to any of my emotional labor as a woman?
I don't owe you anything, and you do not owe me anything.
So why do yall males insist on policing womens bodies and who we have sex with?
If women want to have sex, what business is it of yall incels? I do not want to know who your greasy neckbeard is having sex with. Just mind your own business, worry about yourself, not what women are doing.
Thats the tea sister.

>>509126249
Your women aren't oppressed. I know feminism is strong in the Islamic world. You will follow the west pretty soon. Look at Iran.

Your religion is just completely retarded. Even for dumb stone-age levels. Your religion is on the same level as those African fetish collectors that believe the world was made by some poop collecting spider or something.
I really cannot fathom how any rational human being can believe that Mohammed was the greatest and noblest human being ever and see what he actually did. he was at best a maniacal sociopath like Ghenghis Khan or Atilla the Hun or Tamerlane. Let's not even get started on 'The Sword of Allah'. Even threatening to send the sob was enough for local Arab tribes to surrender in terror.
I really really do not like your religion.

If your religion takes over Europe we will pretty much return to Bronze-age levels instantly. And not because of the way you treat women but because of your retarded theology and complete moral inflexibility. Warhammer 40k religion is pretty much tolerant and enlightened if you compare it to Islam.

Women always had the best deal historically. They are just never satisfied.

The only thing about Islam that is GOOD is the way they treat women, but that is because it is the same way the Aryans in Greece and India did.

>hermaprhodites
Why? Why would genetic engineering and artificial wombs end humanity (even more than women do)?

>women obedient
My point is that women aren't obedient by nature. You have to constantly keep them in line. Just like toddlers. You are spoiled, you are still at the beginning phase of feminism. You will very soon find this out for yourself.

>>509120472 (OP)
I think that it's not that they "evolved to adapt to tribal capture and slavery". That's femoid cope.
They evolved to be sluts for ALPHA GRUG, because the ones who did that managed to pass down the best genes that survived the longest.
It's probably something they evolved from the time we were monke. Fem-monke just want the strongest Monke to take care of her and her children, all other monkes are irrelevant. A lot of animals do that (Lions, horses, deer, baboons, gorillas)

The problem is, males usually end up having to fight to the death over females.
We invented society, which solved this
The problem is, society evolved so much that it took the place of alpha grug.
How can any man compete with government benefits, and their police force?

>>509120472 (OP)
It all makes sense if you realize that many men are evolved to have urges to rape so to do many woman evolved with urges to be rapes and engage in act to get raped, but rapes don't happen anywhere near as often as they used to.

>>509127378
Its always the same garbage. Well if you hate us so much why do you feel the need to take all our spaces? Why do you use everything we make? Why do you need our attention and validation?

You are just like niggers, you always complain about how bad the white man is but you never go back to Africa. Why I ask.

Maybe you don't know it bitch, but we already given you everything, from the house you live in, to the clothes you have on your back, to the freedom that you can say this man-hating garbage with impunity.
The only thing we men ask from you is that you are appreciative. That you give us love and affection. But even that simple request is much too much for you. That is why we are debating the scientific reason of why you are so mentally fucked. You don't even see any of it.

I really hope that Mohammed here will actually take over then you will soon see how spoiled you are. Your ass will be beaten and you will be forced to wed your daughters to 80 year old men that live in a shack with two goats. And you will be forced to be happy with it.

>>509127378
>>509127378
Its always the same garbage. Well if you hate us so much why do you feel the need to take all our spaces? Why do you use everything we make? Why do you need our attention and validation?

You are just like niggers, you always complain about how bad the white man is but you never go back to Africa. Why I ask.

Maybe you don't know it bitch, but we already given you everything, from the house you live in, to the clothes you have on your back, to the freedom that you can say this man-hating garbage with impunity.
The only thing we men ask from you is that you are appreciative. That you give us love and affection. But even that simple request is much too much for you. That is why we are debating the scientific reason of why you are so mentally fucked.

I really hope that Mohammed here will actually take over then you will soon see how spoiled you are. Your ass will be beaten and you will be forced to wed your daughters to 80 year old men that live in a shack with two goats. And you will be forced to be happy with it.

>>509120472 (OP)
I've stopped trying to understand deranged people and I just blame demons. Women have weak spiritual defenses and are prone to possessions.

>>509128035
>>509128096
Why did you post it twice Mohammed? When the browser is loading, it means your post is uploading, inshallah.

>>509120864
Women say the opposite of what they feel. She definitely wants to get raped by a guy that she will then bond with and get cheated by because he's such a BVLL.

>>509127758
Yeah I agree with that, but then we have the problem here:
>>509123360

>>509128230
I'm really starting to believe more and more that anon is right and the gods cursed the human female or something. It all just doesn't add up.

>>509126494
Anon here has a point. The ancients believed women were at fault for pretty much everything. Pandora opened the box to suffering, Eve and the serpent etc.
Could it be true?

If so, and women are actually evil. What to do with them?

>>509124192
Because we are not burdened anymore with the limitations Hesiod explains: https://blogs.baruch.cuny.edu/theogonyfinalproject/?page_id=34
I have proposed three options, maybe pol has some better ideas?

>>509121442
It's true. Kikes gave women voting rights and everything went to shit. 75% of women vote for the Trudeaus and the Bidens. Our populations will decrease rapidly because too many women are too selfish to make children, they want a career and they want anti conception pills. Most of them can't get babies after years of using these pills. We seriously need to put this on the political agenda fast. The replacement is already here. They can't stop importing niggers from all over the world.

>>509121986
We all want that bro but women are lost. I started hating them the last years.

>>509129576
>If so, and women are actually evil. What to do with them?
Our ancestors already figured this out, we just had the arrogance to think we somehow knew better: you don't give them any legal power and you constantly keep them in a state of semi-slavery. Slap them when they get out of line, and lightly rape them every now and then to keep their demons in check.

>>509121131
Perfect slave creatures.