Without due process, how will you prove you are a legal citizen?

Stop being a bigot. Think about it, immigrants contribute a lot to the country. They take on jobs that often nobody else wants, work in industries like healthcare, agriculture, and construction, and help drive innovation and entrepreneurship. Immigrants founded some of the world’s most successful companies, including Google, Tesla, and Apple. Without them, our economy would struggle, and society would lose out on a lot of talent and diversity. Is this what you want for society?

>>509138117 (OP)
Y’all haven’t seen born in east LA and it really shows.

>>509138117 (OP)
How, indeed? This is probably the most twisted and evil administration in US history.

>>509138117 (OP)
Define due process.

>>509138117 (OP)

Don't care - fuck jews - fuck feminism - fuck paying for niggers to live for free - fuck all of it - i h ope it fucking burns and every single tiny thing i can do to push it in that direction I DO IT EVERY FUCKING DAY

>>509138277
When you cash the checks for the yearly subscription fees.

>>509138117 (OP)
I'm Jewish, let them try to grab me. I'll sue them into oblivion

>>509138117 (OP)
If congress changes the immigration laws so that "only gingers are citizens". That is due process. And that's because congress has that power LEGALLY, and citizenship in this country is based on "paper", not on anything real or organic. Don't like it? Use 2A and build your own government.

>>509138168
Unironically yes. The US would be fine as an all-White country. None of those immigrant founded companies have made the world truly better.
>Google
Advertising fraud, manipulating search results and killing small businesses
>Tesla
EV batteries are worse for the environment than oil by a long shot.
>apple
Smart phone addiction has made society a neurotic shithole.
All in all, the US would better off without these companies.

>>509138117 (OP)
Just kick out browns and blacks
Simple as

>>509138451
posted on a device that was made from technology pioneered by google and apple

These people don't understand that we are far past the point of having any rational conversations about sliding rights. This country has been flooded with illegals. Collateral damage and any innocents caught in the cross fire are negligible compared to any of the downsides.

>>509138117 (OP)
I’m white so not my problem

>>509138117 (OP)
File your documents before being deported. For their is no cusip [a]count to pay for the service. You got a bunch of [Judges] shipping commissioners who are trying to commit bank fraud.

>>509138117 (OP)
Ron Klain is a fucking traitor who should be hung.

>>509138699
what if the ICE agent is having a bad day and you find yourself in a wrong place wrong time type of situation?

>>509138117 (OP)
We really don't give a fuck unless you're white. If you're white you can stay, if you're brown gtfo. Its really that simple.

>>509138117 (OP)
Based, it’s time to strip American citizenship from everyone who refuses to pledge allegiance to Israel

I'm not any shade of brown, black, or yellow. I'm going to be 100% fine. Lmfao, I love this timeline.

>>509141076
what if you piss off a guy who knows an ICE guy?
i mean you Americans call swat on each other

>>509140974
100% based, you can have every single Muslim we deport. They will fit right in.

>>509141212
>B..BUT WHAT IF BUT WHAT IF BRO COME ON BRO PLZ LET ME STAY
lol...LMAO

>>509138117 (OP)

This is retarded. If a legal citizen is deported fraudulently, then he can appeal from an embassy.
If they need to get RID of someone, they are gonna kill u no matter the law.
Fking retarded jew shill mental gymnastics.

>>509141390
Hopefully romanian does the same and you have to go back to india.

>>509141364
I'm not living there nor would i ever want to live there, I'm fine where i am.

>>509141487
I'm happy you are okay living like that, its the whole reason we are kicking you out.

>>509138117 (OP)
illegal aliens do not have constitutional rights, only citizens do.

illegals have
no right to free speech
no right to bare arms
no right to defend themselves
no right to vote
no right to assemble in groups
no right to freedom of religion
no right to protection under law
no right to trial
no protection from discrimination
no innocent until proven guilty
no right to work
no right to social security
no right to education

enough with the fucking stupidity

>>509141606
This is correct and now SCOTUS agrees. What a time to be alive.

>>509138117 (OP)
But when there are millions of illegals in the country why would they waste their time picking up a legal citizen? They're not randomly going around arresting non Whites. They are fully aware of who they are looking for and that only happens because they know they're illegal

leftie libtards honestly think these guys just head out each morning looking for brown people to round up

>>509138117 (OP)
I'm going to personally deport this kike to a gas chamber

>>509141750
If they did that in the UK, people would respect your country again but it seems your taking in 2 million Palestinians per Kier the queer today.

If you can't tell who is an illegal just by looking, you need to git gud.

>>509138117 (OP)
deport that jew to Israel, problem solved

This needs to stop.

>>509140841
I dunno, what if that happened?>>509141212
Oh no! ICE might search a database to make sure you're actually undocumented before wasting their budget!
>>509141487
Then why do you even care?

>>509138117 (OP)
This is what they wanted. Deportations are not rocket science. A simple control and simplified hearing would be enough, but no, they always have to tap between unlimited inmigration to rash deportation. Overton goes brrr, but at least people will clap the government solutions for the problems government created

>>509138273
>muh dooooooo porcess!
Show back of hand, mud-monkey...
Judges already issued removal orders for ICE targets -- literally, the final step of due process.

>>509141442

Huh? The fuck you said to me?

>>509138117 (OP)
Its always some semite

>>509138117 (OP)
>how will you prove you are a legal citizen?
Marksmanship is the oldest American tradition.

>>509141931
I just read two Afghans were caught smuggling people illegally into the England by boat. A woman and a child died in the crossing. They were sentenced to 8 months in prison

This government hates us

lmao cant wait for drumpf epstein to kick out all the chudsters requesting the tens of thousands of hours of videos of epstein drumpf raping kids and saying israel le bad

>1 post by this ID
>literally who on twitter said X
>/pol/ btfo
>no source, argument, or context

>>509138168
>Immigrants are good for slave labor and corruption and our society would collapse without it
FTFY

>>509138117 (OP)
Pilpul. The due process is being given an opportunity to prove you are a US citizen. So in that sense due process is justified. But when kikes say due process what they really mean is a lengthy jury trial so that they can clog up the system indefinitely to prevent deportations.
Always remember, jews are the enemies of all mankind.

>>509138117 (OP)
I have my passport card in my wallet right now

>>509138117 (OP)
My ancestors have been here since before America was a thing and I’m white.

Here’s one now.

>>509138117 (OP)
Unfortunately the corrupt judges have proven that given the opportunity they will hide illegals from ICE. So yeah no you can't be trusted

>>509138117 (OP)

This would not be happening if the Democrats had asked the immigrants to come to the U.S. legally.

>>509138117 (OP)
disingenuous post
the solution is very simple
brown=bad=deport
white=ok=stay

>>509142210
Fuckin pajeets killed Tony Quickers gramps

>>509142230
But then how would they all vote 13 times each if they were here legally?

>>509138206
Kek.
I haven't thought about that movie in decades.

>>509138117 (OP)
ICE has already obtained the warrants ahead of time via the judicial system. Due process has already occured and these illegals have been on the run (or avoiding showing up to hearings)
They cannot just rip you off the streets because you are brown like the NPCs keep saying. . . . unless you interfere or assault officers like some of the idiots have done.

>>509142094
I pray for your country daily, non meme. I don't necessarily like the English but I don't want to live in a world without the British as a whole.

>>509138117 (OP)
You keep spamming this like it means anything

Why is ICE going to round up white people? Oh they aren't

This is what you call C O P E

Premium Grade A C O P E

Seethe bitch while we deport your brown communist asses lmao

>>509138117 (OP)
Mandatory national ID is inevitable for America, notwithstanding the fundies screeching about it being the mark of the beast.

>>509140858
>we
You go a mouse in your pocket?

>>509138642
google bought android, they did not make the original os. they've since spent a lot "upgrading" it.
theres also real physical computers retard. not everyone is an eternal summer phone shitter.

>>509142652
It means white people, not brown.

>>509142412
Retard, that's NOT the issue. We know in many cases ICE is acting on warrants... but all of them?

FURTHERMORE, the REAL issue is the power to detain citizens and ship them overseas (technically NOT a draft).

>>509142360
Kek that one got me

>>509142917
Only anchor babies have to worry about this.

>>509138117 (OP)
*provides state ID, passport and or visa*
woah so hard

>>509142618
>Mandatory national ID is inevitable for America

No, American Citizens have a right to privacy.
Illegals do not have rights.
We need to start branding them.
on the forehead

>>509138117 (OP)
I don't understand how 'i did not come through legal routes to be here' isn't enough of due process. They couldn't be here, unless it was illegally. Meaning, they should be immediately removed. If we were going to execute them, or incarcerate them for crimes, then sure they need a court date.

>>509140858
fucking based

>>509138117 (OP)
So what? I just turn around, go to the border, show them my papers and I'm back in the US. Basically I just got a free trip to Mexico.

>>509138117 (OP)
I don't concern myself with such things, I'm white.

>>509138117 (OP)
I'm "white."

>>509138277
Checks and balances from the judicial system.
Are Drumpfies really this retarded?

>>509144269
Due process and checks and balances are fundamentally different concepts. You sound retarded to anyone with a working knowledge of constitutional law.

>>509138117 (OP)
>Without due process,
Do any of you dumb faggots even know what "due process" is? It's like you all flunked civics class.

"Due process" isn't a trial. All it means is that the government should have a well-defined process for doing something (anything), and that it should follow that process in a non-discriminatory manner. The town council denies you a permit to build a fence? Did they follow the same process for decisions as with everyone else? If so, your due process rights aren't violated. If ICE picks you up thinking your illegal? You don't get a hearing. They double/triple check to make sure you're not a citizen, then you're sent home. That's it. Hearings (especially for illegals who know better than to contest the uncontestable) are just a waste of taxpayer money and a way to drag it out so that some lawyer can find a way to jew them into staying. No thanks. Is jus sanguinis is good enough for Europe, why the fuck isn't it good enough for us?

>>509138117 (OP)
honestly based. we need to deport all anti-semites to South Sudan or El Salvador. they aren't citizens in my opinion.

>>509144501
Wrong moron! Key part of due process is your right to defend yourself in a court of law! The same right most January 6ere were denied and were detained for months without even being charged or a timely trial

>>509138679
Don't worry, you'll still probably be swarmed by illegals anyway, since it's all a distraction from the fact that nothing was done about the border. Also they're inherently illegal, so the law doesn't affect their decision making process much to begin with lol.

>>509141606
>no right to bare arms

>>509138117 (OP)
Ice won't arrest me because they would get shot by an american citizen
If a illegal shoots a ICE agent, that would be bad optics

>>509138117 (OP)
Eh? My identification required proof of citizenship to obtain, that's the proof, ya dumb kike. If an officer refuses to acknowledge it, then other things come into play. The police aren't some untouchable arm of the king here, you can legally fuck them up in many situations.
>buh wuh
No.

>>509138117 (OP)
This is pure bitch type hysteria. Type of shit people with zero ability of critical thinking
Legsl citizens get deported. Their families are not going to know about it? Media won’t know about it? Person getting deported not going to do anything about it like tell media and file a massive lawsuit for wrongful deportation which has happened before and they won a shit ton of money?
You think Dems aren’t going to know about it and use it as massive platform to win the midterms?You think Republicans aren’t going to know about it and throw Trump under the bus to save their jobs which is literally the only thing they care about
You think lefty judges aren’t going to know about it and bunch liberal lawyers waiting for any chance to go after Orange Man?

>>509138117 (OP)
I have a gun.

>>509138277
The right to go before a judge, and have a trial where you are considered innocent until proven guilty.

>>509138117 (OP)
SSN
License
DD2-14
Birth certificate
Etc etc.
Then, when I'm out of custody I sue the fuck out of them.

>>509144756
When you are accused of a crime, sure. But a non citizen is not under the jurisprudence of the US government. So penalize them however fit and dump them home.

>>509145245
Incorrect, that is your right to a trial when accused of a crime and not the same thing.

>>509145269
No, according to lefties illegals get due process and they have a right to a jury trial

>>509138117 (OP)
So they can also deport the White lefties that let them in?

>>509138117 (OP)
Any official can easily determine your citizenship status. A fucking high school principal could determine citizenship status. This is a stupid line of argument.

>>509145135
how can you legally fuck them up if they just say it's a fake id, drag you away to some holding site and deport you to a gulag in El Salvador without due process, you dumb fucking American retard. How are you this fucking supid

Half of the time these people are being rounded up because they are in the middle of committing a crime and the other half already had the due processes, lost and ran away and hid because they figured no one would bother looking for them.

>>509145406
we should deport every white and replace them with jeets.

>>509138117 (OP)
I say this completely unironically. Color charts. If you're past a certain shade of lightly tanned brown, we send you one way to your choice of a short list of pre-approved countries. If you refuse, we literally kill you.
I also unironically support whatever the necessary amount of money it would cost to identify everyone who is more that 1/3s jewish and air drop them into Palestine, parachute optional.
>Who radicalized you?
You.

>>509138117 (OP)
you goyim are citizens only of hell

>>509138117 (OP)
i will just pull out my driver's license

>>509145501
>he doesn't understand i mean using physical force against them becomes completely justifiable under the law in certain situations
Hitler was right, we got all the euros with revolution in their hearts.

>>509145135
counter argument:
you post an icky jd vance meme so they make up a story about you being addicted to hard drugs (this actually happened)
>uhm im white so im immune
How did that work out for you so far this presidency? Surely you're swimming in money.

>>509145245
Are you a commie?

>>509138117 (OP)
yeah and you can be accused of rape and lose your kids in an instant right now

>>509138117 (OP)
Show proof of MAGA voting record.

>>509145249
>DD2-14
ICE should be able to deport you welfare queens without due process.

>>509145651
>memeflaggot kike ranting cryptically about some Finnish drug addict turned away for that blaming it on his may mays
I had a friend denied entry into Canada for telling them he was a wizard, Trudeau Hitler too?

>>509138117 (OP)

Deport this fuck to a random south american country.

>>509138117 (OP)
Funny. I don't remember asking for a debate. Cry harder. Your permission is not necessary.

>>509145245
>The right to go before a judge, and have a trial where you are considered innocent until proven guilty.

Does not apply to invaders. The US Constitution's Bill of Right is not Global, or Universal, it applies ONLY to Citizens of the United States of America.

If Israeli refugees were flooding into the US and stealing houses from people, they would be shot.

>>509145245
>>509144269
Those rights aren't afforded to people here illegally.

Don't want to be mistaken for an illegal person? Don't act shady, engage in criminal activity, or hang out with a bunch of illegals. It's that easy.

>>509138117 (OP)
More than anything...please deport all Indian people and entrap India within a gated zone

>>509145616
god you are fucking retardeeeeed. it doesn't matter if it's justifiable under law or not. Because you dumb piggies got rid of due process!

>>509146268
>I don't know what due process actually is
Just say that next time.

>>509145889
>If Israeli refugees were flooding into the US and stealing houses from people, they would be shot.
You and I both know this isn't true.
>>509145782
I mean, I don't even know why you'd vehemently back up the Supreme Court's decision with this "discussion". If someone is an illegal immigrant, wouldn't due process just deport them anyway?
>oh my god yes daddy please give trump more power to screw me over as he dangles "illegal immigration" in front of me
chimps that can't read his strategy one step in advance.

>>509138117 (OP)
What a retard, why should someone who is a citizen worry about being deported? You just go to the nearest McDonalds, get a new passport and walk right back in.

>>509138642
>computers were invented by google
Rope yourself.

Valid I.D.

>>509146510
He understands there exists an issue, but is too retarded to piece it together.

The problem is the precedent for legal action to be taken against whoever subjectively does not meet a vibe check. In other words it fuels the shock and awe strategy and helps further control discourse (people too scared to criticize set topics, welcome to china, powered by palantir)

>>509146439
I'm not playing along with your pilpul, you brought up a specific person denied entry, so did I. Engage with that or fuck off, kike.

>>509146382
>NO Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any other wise destroyed; nor will We not pass upon him, nor condemn him, but by lawful judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.

One day the boot will be on your neck too instead of just brown people. Enjoy your Palantir brain chip enforced, BlackRock owned police state you retarded cattle

>>509146680
>kike expresses his sizhophrenic fears tje government will finally be run by people sick of their shit

>>509146821
Explain how non citizens who entered illegally are freemen.

California has been using prison labor for decades. They literally have chain gangs go out and pick up trash along the highway AT GUNPOINT. These ARE Citizens of the US, but California claims convicts do not have rights.

If a liberal cuck state like California, can deprive US Citizens of Rights that they do have. What are they doing with illegal aliens, that never had those rights in the first place.

>>509146957
>I can't actually read the constitution or the ammendment outlawing slavery

>>509138117 (OP)
I'm White. I can't be deported. Nice try nigger.

>>509146784
I mean you clearly seem to be picking a side by your original post, arguing it doesn't matter because
>i have my legal citizenship so I'm immune
The difference is I also have a legal citizenship and can see how this can easily be abused. It's the equivalent of reading a game's patchnotes and seeing how easily exploitable the update is on the first draft.

>>509146856
Isn't the US government very zionist?

>>509138117 (OP)
If you're brown and can't/barely speak english, there's a 99.9% chance you're an illegal.

Fuck off.

>>509146439
I don't care who the are
If someone comes into my home and says "I'm the captain now" He'll be a corpse, Israeli or not.

>>509147098
>memeflaggot claims to be citizen and still wants to pilpul
>>509147146
You'd know, moshe.

>>509138117 (OP)
This won’t ever happen. You don’t have a gotcha moment. You’re just a faggot.

>>509147207
>pol is retarded and thinks this will get rid of illegals
It's almost as if this isn't Trump's second term.
About that border where the illegals come from... Oh right, I'm not allowed to notice, that's absolutely forbidden here.

Are the “illegals” in the room with you now anon?

>>509147289
Didn't the US government get caught giving illegal Israeli immigrants citizenships a few months back? Meaning they would be exempt?
>you disagree so you're scared because you're a heckin jew >:(
peak /pol/ brain rot

>>509145731
Seethe more faggot.
Also, thank you for your service wagie.
Lol.

>>509146957
Keep Californias name out of your weird ass out of stater mouth. Pro tip: the prisons cant force you to work.

>hey are you illegal?
>no here's my drivers license
>ok have a nice day

>>509147636
Illegals can get drivers loicenses in 19 states so thats a shit requirement for proof of citizenship or legal residency.

>>509138117 (OP)
>If Trump can deny due process to those allegedly here unlawfully, ICE can grab JEWS, allege they aren't a citizen & deport them w/o a hearing.

Cuts both ways.

>>509138117 (OP)
due process?
we're way beyond due process or the rule of law.

remember, the moment the left and right began to throw the law and their own oaths sworn out the window, in order to enforce alternative jurisdictions/parallel systems of law outside of the constitution (to the point of even undermining the constitutioin *see 2nd ammendment, no knock raids, etc) they justified throwing out due process under the law, birth right citizenship, or any other submission to the law or constitution in any of its forms.
you can't hold the citizenry accountable, when you in positions of authority violated your positions for your own greed and gluttonous lusts and corruption.

dont be mad there's no more law, no more justice, no more grace, no more mercy, no more consideration.
be glad that its over.
this is the future you all have chosen, the future to come is yours to suffer without escape, rest or hope, deservedly

the streets will now run red with blood, while we'll swim in it to our hearts content.

>>509138117 (OP)
due process?
we're way beyond due process or the rule of law.

remember, the moment the left and right began to throw the law and their own oaths sworn out the window, in order to enforce alternative jurisdictions/parallel systems of law outside of the constitution (to the point of even undermining the constitutioin *see 2nd ammendment, no knock raids, etc) they justified throwing out due process under the law, birth right citizenship, or any other submission to the law or constitution in any of its forms.
you can't hold the citizenry accountable, when you in positions of authority violated your positions for your own greed and gluttonous lusts and corruption.

dont be mad there's no more law, no more justice, no more grace, no more mercy, no more consideration.
be glad that its over.
this is the future you all have chosen, the future to come is yours to suffer without escape, rest or hope, deservedly

the streets will now run red with blood, while we'll swim in it to our hearts content.

>>509147449
Not any more

>>509144756
>Key part of due process is your right to defend yourself in a court of law!
No, you have a right to file motions in court, but no right to trials except when accused of a crime.
Illegals can (if they wish) file for civil court cases from back home, at great expense, with the help of lawyers who are citizens of our country and licensed to practice law here. That's the closest they have to a "right to a trial".

>>509147845
>Illegals can get drivers loicenses in 19 states

It's important to note that these licenses may have restrictions, such as stating "Federal Limits Apply" and not being valid for federal identification purposes

>>509138117 (OP)
If you somehow get deported as a legal citizen(you won't because they will identify you and check their databases before deporting you), you can simply move back in. You don't need a visa or anything.

>>509138117 (OP)
>they can start deporting legal citizens now too!
Actual sub-saharan IQ take holy shit.

>>509147632
i may not like california, or the masons, catholics and jews that run it, but i'll be damned if some niggers from out of state talk shit about the state i was born in.

i'm with you cali anon, not because i like you or care about you (i dont), but those snakes have no foundation to stand on when judging our state.

>>509138117 (OP)
> allege you aren't a citizen
If you can prove that you are you will enjoy due process only if you can't you will have a problem.
They might as well shoot you in the back w/o due process. This is no magic preventing you from any malpractice.

>>509148581
Basic pattern recognition. The sequel to the Patriot Act is being built right under your nose. Palantir surveillance state, less power by lower courts, all justified through fear mongering about Mexicans while simultaneously not doing much about the Mexican border in practice.
What you do get is shock and awe by ICE, which doesn't actually do all that much.

>>509138117 (OP)
Easily: I'm White. Don't need due process to prove that I belong here, it's immediately obvious to all and sundry.

This "paradox" only applies if there is any immediate justification to wonder if you might or might not be a citizen. In other words, it's basically just carte blanche to oppress and deport nonwhites. Which I am A-OK with.

>>509148271
Don’t worry, the next group to blame instead of the oligarchs will be along shortly. Maybe you can go back to feminists for a bit?

I’m waiting for people to realize the military are like illegals. Do jobs most don’t want, don’t pay taxes, get free healthcare, get free education, and the government bends over backwards to suck their dicks

>>509149202
Nah, GermAnon, it's a legal vagary that allows the government to accuse people of not being a citizen. They would be given a chance to prove their citizenship - if they were actually citizens, they could prove it easily: they know what city they were born in, what their name is, they probably even memorized their social security number (I know I have).

It's simply a "Papers, Please" scenario. Which citizens don't (or shouldn't) have a problem with, because they have papers. The people concerned about this are noncitizens, or citizens giving aid and comfort to foreign enemies (which means they're traitors), and those are exactly the people who SHOULD be concerned about this - they're the targets.

>>509138117 (OP)
>leftit jew twisting the fax again
Yeah sure in your cnn framed recreation of reality youre right, faggot
>inb4 so lemme axe you what they fax is
(Ebonics because everyone who disagrees with me is a nigger)
I dont need to know the real fax to know that leftists are lying.
Wer einmal lügt dem glaubt man nicht und wenn er auch die Warheit spricht.

>>509145245
>be hispanic
>yep, guilty
It's that easy

>>509146064
>Those rights aren't afforded to people here illegally.
Incorrect. The 5th and 14th Amendments’ due process clauses protect every person within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status. SCOTUS recently reaffirmed this, ruling that immigrants facing deportation under the Alien Enemies Act are entitled to the opportunity to challenge the legality of their detention before removal. The Court cited its ruling in Reno v. Flores, a 1993 case where Scalia wrote, “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings.”

>>509145245
>The right to go before a judge, and have a trial
this has already been decided by the supreme court in US v Kim Wong Ark. Illegals do not have a right to trials

>>509138117 (OP)
He's right. I support deporting illegals, but you can't just ignore due process, and it was a mistake for Trump to go this way with it. The answer to a slow and ineffective court system isn't to just remove due process - it's to reform the process to conduct immigration cases in short, one day summary proceedings. These cases shouldn't take long
>are you a citizen?
>do you have proof?
That's it. It can be done in a day - not a year.

>>509138117 (OP)
They really need to start locking these retards up.

>>509149448
see, that's where all the retards itt who think they're safe because of their skin tone are wrong. you are making an assumption out of comfort, not experience. ICE are federal law enforcement, and if you've ever dealt with a fed, a real fed, you know two things - they sure as shit don't check databases or even care about warrants when going about their daily fuckery. i remember when the right were still freaking out about china disappearing prisoners, and sure as shit they ignore it when it happens to (albeit in a different manner) in this country. and if you've actually followed the arrests up to this point, they aren't checking data bases or serving warrants. they're given a general description or a photo & an address. hell, local law enforcement is only notified like ten percent of the time. they'd absolutely deport your ass in a heartbeat if sent your way, that's their job. there's no morality or logic in law enforcement, just orders.

>>509147845
they're going to know if they run it

>>509138277
The right to petition a court for redress and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
>>509145337
Trials are part of Due Process.
>>509146064
>>509145889
Yes they are.
The Fifth Ammendment reads as
>No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
>No Persons
Not citizens, PERSONS. I know you like to unperson people but the Bill of Rights doesn't require you to be a citizen to get due process.

>>509150212
it's not that easy

You could apply this thinking to anything

Ooh cops shouldnt have guns because what if a cop just decides to shoot you dead because he feels like it even though you don't deserve it

>>509138117 (OP)
No, that's not how that works. They don't understand the meaning of due process.

>>509151341
You don't need a whole trial to check someone's legal status

>>509149969

>>509149969
Well you know, except for the legal citizens that have already been detained

>>509151341
Repatriation to one's home country is not a punishment for a criminal offense. The provision you're quoting isn't triggered by an immigration hearing.

>>509138117 (OP)
I don't look like a filthy beaner nor a lowly negro so I don't have to worry about it.

>>509151503
Illegally entering the country is a criminal offense, anon

>>509151370
The difference is the cop will go up on trial for murder. Yes, you'll be dead but the threat of trial and being imprisoned with the men he put away keeps the officer from shooting you without Damned good reason.

On the flip side, denying Due Process means the government has done nothing wrong and thus doesn't get punished. Some ICE captain can ship you off to Brazil just to make quota and won't get a slap on the wrist.

>>509151596
I have friends who tan a few shades darker than lily white and I'm worried about them.

>>509142917
Right to due process is, wait for it, the right to whatever process is due #
TO YOU. If you cannot provide documentation when asked to due so, and it can’t be verified by any other means, you are due a big fucking deportation order

>>509138117 (OP)
I voted for this

>>509138117 (OP)
I want due process but the illegals said no and forced their way in. Its a little late to ask for due process now.

>>509150611
Anon, that is essentially what they are doing now. If you can provide a social and home address to the ICE agents on scene they can look up if you’re a citizen in a matter of minutes. Yeah, they detain you because they are currently conducting an investigation. The people crying “due process” do not understand it means something completely different in a immigration hearing than it does criminal court. They want the public to demand jury trials for deportation. You’re buying into retarded talking points.

>>509151503
That would make the government a Human Trafficker. Moving people against their will is a Crime unless it's the result of a crime.

>>509138117 (OP)
Carry a US passport.

>>509151947
Documentation is provided to a Judge who is responsible for verifying it. This keeps ICE agents from just declaring all the documentation forgeries just to make Quota.

>>509152026
And you trust Federal agents to do that? Especially ones on a Quota?

>>509151872
Ooh but what if the evidence just gets ignored just like the evidence that you are a legal citizens gets ignored

Besides, cops get away with shooting people unnecessarily all the time, its not even called murder when they do it. Nah, better to let take away all their guns over this paranoid what-if rather than let them actually have/do whats needed to sort shit out on the daily

>>509151947
>If you cannot provide documentation when asked to due so, and it can’t be verified by any other means, you are due a big fucking deportation order
Even arch conservative Scalia disagrees with you. You have a right to go before a judge and present your documents. ICE's word alone does not suffice. See >>509150245
>The 5th and 14th Amendments’ due process clauses protect every person within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status. SCOTUS recently reaffirmed this, ruling that immigrants facing deportation under the Alien Enemies Act are entitled to the opportunity to challenge the legality of their detention before removal. The Court cited its ruling in Reno v. Flores, a 1993 case where Scalia wrote, “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings.”

>>509152157
also get chipped with obedience neuralink chip, for extra plantir credit score!

>>509142749
I'm white. You don't speak for me.

>>509152026
If it's that easy, then there is no excuse to NOT give them a quick, one day summary proceeding in a court in front of a judge. Due process requires at least that much. Not a year long trial. Not endless delays. You get your one day in court where the State presents its records and the Defendant states their case. They should be able to crank these cases out quickly since it's so easy. Again, the answer isn't to eliminate due process, it's to make the process efficient so that the system actually works

>>509138117 (OP)
Not my problem, I'm white.

>>509138117 (OP)

When I see an ugly Jew I am always immediately repelled .

ICE usually have photographs and finger prints of the illegals ( since they have committed crimes and Democrats just release them ) .
So when they take you into custody they do it again and see if your finger prints match.

Then they deport you ...
If they don't match they question you as too why . And why there is no matches in the data base . No you say to them I am an American Citizen .. they look into that since that is the only explanation...

>>509152157
I shouldn't fucking have to. What the fuck is this, the USSR? North Korea? China?

>>509151480
Don't care: their fault for not having their papers/not knowing their SSN. I will HAPPILY accept less freedom if it means getting rid of noncitizens. Hell, even if they are citizens, but they're brown and get deported "by mistake", well, still don't care.

>>509152271
What fucking quota are feds on you dumbass libshit? They are salaried federal workers they could be caught balls deep in a little filipino boy and still not be fired they barely work for a living.

>>509151763
Fong Yue Ting vs. United States, gorilla nigger. Constitutionally, the government does not need to carry the burden of proving that an alien is guilty of some kind of wrongdoing to remove them from the country. They are not on trial for a crime, and they are not being deprived of life, liberty, or property such that due process of law is necessary.

>The right to exclude or to expel aliens, or any class of aliens, absolutely or upon certain conditions, in war or in peace, is an inherent and inalienable right of every sovereign nation.

>>509152616
>I will HAPPILY accept less freedom if it means getting rid of noncitizens.
You're welcome to get on your knees and suck Trump's dick, but the rest of us have no desire to pick pubes out of our teeth.

>>509152504
>a quick, one day summary proceeding in a court in front of a judge. Due process requires at least that much
it doesn't. US v Kim Wong Ark determined illegals don't get trials when it comes to determining their legal status. they have no right to mosey on down to the court and stand there while some judge reads off a clerk's report. they can sit in a holding cell on the border while it's done remotely. it can be done very quickly.

>>509152650
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ices-tactics-draw-criticism-it-triples-daily-arrest-targets-2025-06-10/
>The White House has demanded the agency sharply increase arrests of migrants in the U.S. illegally, sources have told Reuters. That has meant changing tactics to achieve higher quotas of 3,000 arrests per day, far above the earlier target of 1,000 per day.

>>509152271
I’m an attorney at a firm with an immigration sections. I am telling you what you think is happening is utter bullshit. You’re going to be put in front of a judge anyway if the ICE agent doesn’t believe you.

>>509152387
>Even arch conservative Scalia disagrees with you. You have a right to go before a judge and present your documents.
No, he is exactly correct. Your hearing is when the judge asks for you to provide proof of citizenship and if you can’t you get deported.
>due process in deportation hearings
Do you understand this is far more narrow than in a criminal matter?

>>509152504
>They should be able to crank these cases out quickly since it's so easy.
They are. It’s amazing what happens when the federal regulations change upon a new president.
>Again, the answer isn't to eliminate due process, it's to make the process efficient so that the system actually works
Nobody is eliminating due process. You’re buying into bullshit.

>>509152616
you gonna get deported "by mistake" after they see your anti semitic posts lmao

>>509151341
>Not citizens, PERSONS.
You ignoramus a person is a legal fiction.
In legal terms, a "person" in Black's Law Dictionary, and generally in law, refers to any individual or entity recognized as having rights and duties under the law.

A Russian pilot who crashes in the United States would have certain rights and protections under US and international law
.
Detention: U.S. immigration law allows for the detention of foreign nationals, particularly those entering without authorization or with possible security concerns. A Russian pilot crashing in the US could be considered an "arriving alien" without immediate legal right to enter and might be detained.

Asylum Claim: If the pilot fears persecution in Russia based on protected grounds (race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group), they could potentially apply for asylum. However, there have been reports of increasing detention and denied access to the asylum process for Russian citizens using certain programs to enter the US.

Criminal Charges: If the crash resulted from an intentional act or violation of US airspace rules, the pilot could face criminal charges. Crossing the border without permission is also a crime in the US.

Rights While Detained or Arrested:

Right to Remain Silent: The pilot has the right to remain silent and not answer questions from law enforcement or immigration agents.

Right to Consular Notification: The pilot has the right to have their country's consular representatives notified of their detention.

Humane Treatment: Under international law, individuals not taking part in hostilities must be treated humanely. This includes protection against violence, mutilation, cruel treatment, and torture.

>>509152768
You silly goose: if I were in Trump's place, I'd be doing the exact same thing. That isn't "sucking Trump's dick", that's "recognizing that someone else has a good idea". He's done plenty of other stupid shit that I don't agree with, but deporting browns without due process is something I'm VERY MUCH behind. You take the good with the bad.

>>509152927
No, it's being a subservient little cuck. Go to a bdsm dungeon to get pegged and leave the rest of us out of it.

>>509152902
And where would I be deported to, hmm? I've never lived anywhere but the US, and I'm White. They wouldn't deport me, they'd throw me in jail. Oh, wait, hate speech is still protected speech. Worst they can do to me is the classic liberal "point and screech", and I've already dealt with that before, don't care.

>>509152868
exactly. the only process theyre losing is the process that has them walking around free and sucking up public resources until their court date that is continually pushed back for hardship

>>509153073
Alright, point out a policy that you agree with, so I can tell you who came up with that policy and accuse you of metaphorically sucking their dick. Do you understand how pointless ad hominem is at the end of the day?

>>509153083
Guantanamo bay. ez.
They don't need to deport people to the exact country of their origin

>>509138117 (OP)
This is Biden's chief of staff, who is one of the culprits behind the Autopen

>>509138117 (OP)
They already had due process. A judge already signed off on their deportation order, because the record of them being here illegally was already made.

No one is going to deport me, because no judge is going to sign off on a deportation order for me, because I am not an illegal immigrant and there are no court documents proving that I am.

Liberals are incapable of making intellectually honest arguments, because their ideology is literally based on lies.

>>509153216
Yeah, antisemitism isn't terrorism here in the States. Not yet, anyway, and if they tried it, they'd have a popular uprising. I'm ok with being martyred, got nothing else going on.

I don't know how that shit works in Colombia or Peru or wherever the fuck your flag is from, but they aren't going to do shit to me here, and even if they did, I've got nothing to lose. Stop being a cowardly little bitch boy.

>>509138117 (OP)
deport me where? I could use a vacation desu

>>509138117 (OP)
I’m not brown or black, I’ll be fine since my skin isn’t the color of shit

>>509153083
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-legally-questionable-proposal-deport-us-citizens-rcna201183
"Homegrowns are next." Hate speech being protected isn't gonna protect you from CECOT after they get run out of hispanics and go after people criticizing Israel one too many times. The in-group will always be an ever shrinking circle.
>>509153208
I'm not gonna do shit. You'll accept any and every violation of our rights no matter the collateral damage so long as at least some of the shrapnel hits people you don't like.

>>509149202
>>They might as well shoot you in the back w/o due process. This is no magic preventing you from any malpractice.
No you dumb Germ -- They interview them, if you come up with a Name and Place of Birth ( inside the USA ) and they can match that , then the will finger print you . If you have finger prints on file ( I do ) then they will let you go.

They do not deport nameless person to random country .

>>The Pic is of WW2 Germs being shot for wearing US Army Uniforms

During WWII The president of the US ordered the arrest and detention of Legal American Citizens who were of German, Italian, and Japanese descent, heritage, or ethnicity.
Civilian Militia were authorized to kill any invading Germans, Italians, or Japanese.

During World War II, several groups of German individuals, including saboteurs and those with suspected espionage activities, were arrested and interned or imprisoned in the United States. These actions were taken under the Alien Enemies Act and involved both German nationals and, in some cases, German Americans.

In 1942, a group of eight German saboteurs, part of Operation Pastorius, landed on American shores with the intention of sabotaging key infrastructure.
The team included George John Dasch, Ernest Peter Burger, Herbert Hans Haupt, Heinrich Heinck, Edward John Kerling, Hermann Otto Neubauer, Richard Quirin, and Werner Thiel.
All eight were arrested.
Two, Dasch and Burger, were spared execution due to their cooperation with the FBI and were later deported.
The other six were executed by electric chair.

>plz don't ship muh brownes back to spixico :(

>>509153745
Nope. All the shrapnel is currently flying at the browns, why would I oppose it? Once it starts into friendly fire, then I'll have an issue, but this, this ain't friendly fire. The in-group shrinking is fine, because I'm a core part of the in-group - I'm a Son of the American Revolution, there are no people who deserve to be here more than me and other Sons and Daughters. Literally everyone else is the out-group and an invader, by definition.

>>509153755
>>OOps forgot the Pic

>>509138117 (OP)
They aren’t being denied due process
>bbbbut due process means endless court cases and appeals
Nope

>>509138117 (OP)
>avoid due process going in
>dont get it going out
What's the problem?

>>509138117 (OP)
ICE isn't grabbing random people they're grabbing illegals, and they're not deporting anyone who can prove their citizenship (which is a trivial process). Why is this concept so difficult for judeo-liberal faggots to understand?

they have go back

>>509138117 (OP)
I’m white

>>509153755
I remember being a little kid in elementary and they had police come in for like a show and tell day - they had K9s, little games, prizes, etc. They even "took your fingerprints" as if you were being booked for going to jail.

Years later, I realized that that was simply the excuse they used for getting everyone's fingerprints on record. I was slightly annoyed at the deception, and then I realized that I'm not a criminal scum and it's never going to be relevant that they have my fingerprints on record, but it could be relevant for people that ARE (or will be) criminals, so I'm good with it. I am not at all opposed to a police state so long as it's my people doing the policing.

>>509141606
I wish all of these things were true.

>>509154422
To preempt the inevitable "what happens when it ISNT your people doing the policing?" -

>Tell them they better send bachelors.

>>509138117 (OP)
I have a passport. That's my proof. Cry about it.

>>509150212
> be jew
> yep, guilty
And to think you guys had it figured out 80 years ago.

>>509154675
Don't tell them to cry about it. That's what they're already doing, and it's fucking annoying. Tell them to shut the fuck up and stop whining instead.

>>509154046
>there are no people who deserve to be here more
Native Americans have been here for at least 23,000 years. You're fresh off the boat.
>The in-group shrinking is fine, because I'm a core part of the in-group
Taking advantage of the largest mass migration in history and expanding the in-group is how America succeeded.

>>509154422

Guess you are not old enough, Back in the 1980's they were terrified of kids being kidnapped and going missing for years and forgetting who they were so -- many kids got " Identa-Kits" of fingerprints and photographs.

Also if you have security clearance you get fingerprinted .

And if Haiti / Zimbabwe / South Africa / Somolia / Congo are anything to go by .. If "My People" are not running the police state them we have other worries since the People banging on the door are not looking to deport you -- they are looking to smash you head open and eat the goo that lays with in .

here we go

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GqxS3FsArWoE

>>509138117 (OP)
DONT KNOW MAYBE JUST SHOW ID AND THEY CHECK IN THEIR COMPUTER?

>>509138117 (OP)
most people who Trump'd want to deport that are citizens ought to be deported.

>>509138206
>Y’all haven’t seen born in east LA and it really shows.
OH YEAH WETBACK YOU WERE BORN IN AMERICA NAME THE 9th PRESIDENT
UHHH OHH IT WAS THAT UHH THAT BAD USS DUDE THAT SHOT PEOPLE ANUHDREW JAKSON.


And it think man back in the day illegal spics would call la migra for a free trip to mexico all inclusive for the whole family. Well fed well treated making it to the wedding on time. And back in east LA by the weekend ready for work. With some of them even staying after making so much money, buying some land building a house for the family.

Before the subhuman cartels started chopping everyone to pieces keeping the public in fear nonstop. Bribing or murdering politicians both in Mexico&America. Fucking subhuman below niggers animals I dont get why the FARC and etc orgs even dealt with the cartel and stopped dealing with westerns to bring drugs in &or working with mafias&organized crime. You know the people who did not leave dozens of bodies for ever fucking KG of coke to make it to the states. They unironically made more money not dealing with the cartel less heat too.
Then those spics started flooding the south of America with shitty 60% pure meth and welfare garbage black tar herion**(which is literally just vingar and morphine boiled together turns into a paste which is a trash high and filthy picks up so much bacteria)
South east asia sells 97% pure meth&heroin&LSD&Ket&MDMA for far cheaper no bullshit no nonstop violence. If your goods get seized they send another shipment free of charge. The cartels would say you owe them double the money, for being stupid and barely hiding the drugs YOU PAID FOR and start killing people you know DEMANDING MONEY.
North west&east have all the good drugs far cheaper thanks to Burma&Chinese tirads(cool dudes all /biz/ no violence unless 1488% nessasary will never fuck you over always on time)

Murica&Trump really need to start carpet bombing mexico and the cartel. Literally need to declare war on Mexico

>>509138117 (OP)
But I am a citizen, I have a social security number, passport and drivers license. I can produce them at will.

>>509142406
ORALE VATO WASSAPeNING

>>509138117 (OP)
>Ronald Klain
>Early life
>Klain is Jewish
Every single time.

It's kinda funny that some countries don't want their own citizens back.

South American countries, who emptied their prisons into the US are saying "those are violent criminals, we don't want to feed them anymore, you can't return them" Trump slaps tariffs on the country, and they're like OH shit, OK OK send them back. Trump threatened to cancel Visas for Colombians, and the president of Colombia said "My wife shops in Miami, you can't do that" fucking cuck gave in to his wife, he's taking back their criminals, and his wife get to visit her Bull in Miami if you know what I mean.
Those who don't want their scum back are being dealt with, and El Salvador is taking some, others are being sent to prisons in Africa, because their own countries don't want them back "You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here"

>>509155754
>Also if you have security clearance you get fingerprinted .
or work in any number of other industries that require a true criminal background check. Real estate, finance, a lot of trades, I'm sure there are more I can't think of at the moment. In some states it's a requirement of the driver's license. There are probably very few americans whose prints aren't on record at this point

>>509155067
>Taking advantage of the largest mass migration in history and expanding the in-group is how America succeeded.
You say that like it's a good thing. America was founded by English war profiteers and functioned as intended. The best thing America could've done was collapse after the Articles of Confederation failed.

>>509138117 (OP)
this is fake and a btfo cope from months ago the police confirm your identity without a trial it has happened mulitple times during these raids

the bigger issue is we had operation wet back which was a even more extreme mass deportation operation and none of these things happened there was no American citizens arrested and deported despite no trails happening

this gay shit is fear mongering

>>509145501
literally abrego and all illegals still can hire lawyers from another country and petition a judge without ice involvment to sue and prove your citizenship.

you are makign up a scenario that cant happen

>>509138117 (OP)
I'm white.

>>509158386
We had a dumbass wave at cops. They got his fingerprints from the dash cam video while he was waving. He was a wanted felon, so they stopped, and questioned him. Idiot gave a fake name, which is another felony charge.

These illegals that are using stolen identities, think they outsmarted the system, that only makes it worse for them. Identity theft is federal, so it bypasses the local courts altogether.
Stupid democrats that are letting illegals use their Identity are also being charged, they don't get deported, they go to jail here.

>>509138117 (OP)

fuck the beaners, fuck the illegals. Deport all of them from the USA and from my country also.

>>509151480
none have the only scenarios you have is one spic who said he was illegal to the ICE agents and every other one is people held on site of a raid for being there the same way if you hang out with people you dont realize are drug dealers and they raid them while you are there you get held and cleared.

>>509159186
what about the Maryland Construction worker / Maryland Father / Maryland Man / Gang Member / wife beater / Human trafficker / drug dealer / loser AKA Kilmar Armando Ábrego García AKA "Chele" who's MS-13 gang rank was "chequeo,"
He was arrested taking money from a construction company in a home depot parking lot, pimping out illegals to do labor.
Literally red handed renting out his slaves, who owe him money for transporting them into the country. Isn't he an innocent guy who got arrested by mistake after a court gave him due process and ordered his deportation,

>>509145501
You present your ID and earn millions in the easiest lawsuit of your life if that happens to you

>>509151872
>just to make quota
there's a dearth of illegals, or it's easier to deal with shit stirred up by deporting a citizen than going to the trouble of catching an illegal?

>>509138679
Oh they understand completely. It's just bad faith argumentation all the way down. Their goal is to foil the deportation of illegals by turning every deportation case into a 15 month long, multi hearing jerk off session. They don't actually care about due process or legal consistency, they just understand that you do and are trying to cite it to manipulate you.

>>509144501
>The town council denies you a permit to build a fence?
This is communism.

>>509159373
Cool story, bro.

>>509138117 (OP)
I'll pull out my big white circumcized dick ROFL

>>509162113
You let an illegal use your ID to get a job.
The illegal works using your name.
The illegal pays taxes in your name.
They don't get a refund of the taxes that they were charged, You get that refund.
This isn't a new scheme, it's been going on for 40 years.
When you get a 1099 or a W2 notifying you that you payed taxes from a job that you didn't work, it is your duty, to report it to the IRS "someone is using my name for employment" If you accept the refund of taxes that you didn't pay, you are facing 10 years in prison, for each count, each document that you submit with your tax return.

>>509138117 (OP)
Good, bye