Equivalence - /pol/ (#509144806) [Archived: 757 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:11:13 PM No.509144806
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'Chanting death to the IDF = Death of every single Israeli Jew' but is it really?
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Anonymous ID: gxGXlAJGSwitzerland
6/30/2025, 8:14:01 PM No.509145026
Aren't they all IDF?
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Anonymous ID: 2MILP6alUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:15:44 PM No.509145144
>>509144806 (OP)
Why is a shitty RATM tribute act being discussed as a major political issue
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Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:16:29 PM No.509145209
The UK culture secretary Lisa Nandy says that because of conscription chanting 'death to the IDF' is equivalent to calling for the death of every single Israeli Jew.

I don't agree with this.


I take it to mean a metaphorical death, so for instance its abolishment, which could be peaceful. Though I suppose it could also be a call for violent attacks.

>>509145026
I think that is her point, I'm not convinced of the equivalence though, are you?
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Anonymous ID: rpdgBY9NUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:17:25 PM No.509145285
you can scream DEATH TO NIGGER SPICS AND MOOSELANDS but not DEATH TO JEWS OR POOJEETS. what a weird world we live in
Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:18:32 PM No.509145364
>>509145144
Everyone leaps on the righteous bandwagon and it keeps snowballing. And it is political. And the BBC that broadcast the gig is tax payer funded, i.e. paid for by the government through our licence fee.
Anonymous ID: MSII7hWuUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:20:31 PM No.509145552
>>509144806 (OP)
Yes. If you want to be a hard man who chants for people to be killed don't start complaining. Why didn't he chant Death to Hamas? Because he really wants all Jews killed.
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Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:23:18 PM No.509145768
>>509145552
I'm not sure that Lisa Nandy's statement on equivalence isn't a fallacy.
Anonymous ID: cbe603vJRomania
6/30/2025, 8:27:36 PM No.509146122
>>509145026
Saar is redeeming.
Anonymous ID: UXpXuMUrUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:28:31 PM No.509146206
>>509145552
I'm complaining that my government is preventing him from entering for doing something we have a right to do. Brandenburg v Ohio came about because of Ku Klux Klan rally advocating for revengeance against the niggers and Jews. You have a right to say death to the Jews in America. No one can punish you legally for it. So why are we punishing foreigners for it?
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Anonymous ID: nZvD8w7JUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:30:24 PM No.509146357
>>509145552
Hello Luke Akehurst
Anonymous ID: nZvD8w7JUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:31:21 PM No.509146458
>>509146206
based free speech burger anon
Anonymous ID: spd16t5N
6/30/2025, 8:33:47 PM No.509146640
>>509145209
i was against that idiotic stunt from the beginning and i still don't believe that he meant all jews, even if they have conscription, there are Arab jews who are exempt from military service for example
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Anonymous ID: DinQNIR4Netherlands
6/30/2025, 8:35:01 PM No.509146749
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>>509144806 (OP)
Why stop at the IDF?
Anonymous ID: r64WpsEwUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:35:15 PM No.509146768
If you believe zog isn't real you are retarded
Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:35:28 PM No.509146791
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Rht Hon Lisa Nandy
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport

'It is entirely possible to stand up for the Palestinians and never ever stray into anti-Semitism'

'Clearly anti-Semitic, incited hatred, and caused real world harm to the people living in our country in the Jewish community'

'to those that say this is a freedom of speech issue - it is nothing of the kind'
Anonymous ID: s8j7L8y6
6/30/2025, 8:36:47 PM No.509146908
IDF is composed of non-jew sacrificial golems
Anonymous ID: jM2lktI9Netherlands
6/30/2025, 8:37:11 PM No.509146944
>>509144806 (OP)
You'd have been correct before the Palirat happening of 7 october, but ever since the Palirats have been pretty mask-off on this.
To their well-bemoaned detriment by now.
Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:37:27 PM No.509146964
>>509146640
I guess we'll find out his full opinion in court.
Anonymous ID: CGX4pzmAUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:41:23 PM No.509147315
>>509144806 (OP)
When there's mandatory conscription, yes.
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Anonymous ID: 9qR81KkbUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:44:48 PM No.509147598
>>509145209
>I think that is her point
She's really not thought that one through, because what I hear is "every Jew is a lawful target".
Anonymous ID: +RePwuQXUnited Kingdom
6/30/2025, 8:44:55 PM No.509147606
>>509147315
I think it's just the organisation. I don't think he meant every single Jew in Israel.
Anonymous ID: QHmp/lWdUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:46:35 PM No.509147738
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>>509144806 (OP)
THE FUCKING IDF IS NOT A PROTECTED IDENTITY IN EITHER THE US OR UK

RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME

FUCK ALL ISRAELI'S AND KILL ALL IDF AGENTS

RULE OF LAW IS CANCELED, START KILLING AND LOOTING
Anonymous ID: 2V4RJwQFUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:46:54 PM No.509147769
The ADL said that โ€œKill the Boerโ€ is figurative. Sauce for the goose is good for the genocidal gander.
Anonymous ID: spd16t5N
6/30/2025, 8:47:06 PM No.509147783
>>509147315
I'm a reservist, in the eyes of the state I'm 100% a civilian, only when i get called in there will be a change of my status, when i wear the uniform to put it simply, are 9 million jews wearing the uniform right now?
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Anonymous ID: /b4+TaX2
6/30/2025, 8:48:05 PM No.509147858
>>509147315
And there it is, Shabbos Goy Elite
Anonymous ID: NY/t2Is1Hungary
6/30/2025, 8:48:11 PM No.509147866
>>509144806 (OP)
I don't think he mean't all israeli jews. Pewdiepie did much worst.
Anonymous ID: flgtdwieUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:49:35 PM No.509147975
>>509146206
it's not a punishment
he never had a right to come here, just a revocable license
we should let a limited amount of people come here for tourism, sporting exhibitions, maybe some cultural exhibitions if we're sure they'll have value for americans. political activism bordering on incitement, though? that's like goosestepping through berlin. you'd blame the person taking advantage of a tourist visa to stir shit in a foreign land.
Anonymous ID: ZlydQG4xUnited States
6/30/2025, 8:59:26 PM No.509148822
>>509147783
It's convenient semantics. When something like this happens, every Israeli citizen is suddenly the IDF. But when HAMAS opened fire at those same IDF conscripts and took over a hundred of them as POWs, suddenly they're defenseless civilians.

Grown ass adults should be able to recognize the nuances of both cases, but these empty rhetorical arguments are made in bad faith for political reasons, nothing more
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Anonymous ID: flgtdwieUnited States
6/30/2025, 9:05:17 PM No.509149295
>>509148822
under the geneva conventions, reservists are not considered valid military targets.
in a completely unrelated case several thousand miles away, the UK parliament and courts are trying to determine if "death to the IDF" targets a protected group under UK law.
>empty rhetorical arguments are made in bad faith for political reasons, nothing more
the rare ultra high resolution projection