Survival Test. Is there anything wrong with this picture, or do you think this would be adequate to support your family*. Keep in mind, the scale and theme is "one-acre homestead."

*I'm aware you are foreveralone.

>>509165329 (OP)
Why should anyone who is chronically online survive?

Anything other than ornamental flowers are disallowed by most HOA's and tenant agreements. I can't even have potato plants in pots on my balcony because it is "dirty".

>>509165329 (OP)
thats illegal

>>509165329 (OP)
I don't think most people realize how much work it would be to keep a homestead like that

>>509165329 (OP)
I have 27 acres and unless you have money to buy feed you won't be able to sustain any of the animals and their pens will be dirt pits a few months after spring. You MIGHT be able to support the chickens with that much grain, I go through about 2 bags of 50lb chicken feed for 40 chickens every 2 weeks and if you try to short them on feed they escape looking for something to eat or their egg quality drops until it actually kills them.

>>509165329 (OP)
Where's your water source? The duck pond?

>>509165673
Especially the input to expected output. Particularly for things like grains and cattle.

scrap the pond, the chickens, the livestock, anything that isn't corn squash peas (three sisters) if you HAVE to survive you bet the literal farm on the most essential and foolproof way to make food for life. go catch some fish or trap rabbits for extra protein. that's what the natives did for millenia

Needs borewell.

>>509165329 (OP)
This is fucking retarded an acre isn't enough to do shit, basically like living in an apartment and growing vegetables on your deck tier retarded

>>509165329 (OP)
>self-sufficient
>no well
lmao, larping cityfaggot

>>509165329 (OP)
The garden needs to fit where the lower left pasture is (Figure it out by rotating crops you won't be able to handle a garden that big at first anyway) and all the rest needs to be pasture, and you will still be spending $200 a month on feed for the cattle / pigs / chickens and your water bill is going to be triple whatever it is by yourself.

>>509165329 (OP)
1 acre is too small for that
>house is 50' x 30'
>that is counting the deck, greenhouse, and garage

>>509165329 (OP)
>foreveralone
newfag spotted, nobody says that here, go back to bodybuilding.com

>>509166447
It's an older meme, but it checks out.

>>509165329 (OP)
Possibly. Could you do it first try without ever having done any of the things depicted in your image? Most likely no. For instance this year I tried growing my own wheat to make flour, I used a 4x10 foot grow box and filled it with seed. It turned into a disaster, birds wouldn’t stop eating the grain when I threw it out, it’s half grass and weeds, the wheat just stopped growing for some reason I haven’t figured out yet. That was just one crop. My chickens fucked up my okra and summer squash because they got in and took dirt baths. This is the kind of shit you don’t know ahead of time unless you’ve done it before or worked with someone else who’s done it before.

Someone who doesn't know what Yields are and how many of something is required for even basic shit.

Also lmao at "Pasture". People who have no idea how much animals eat or the care they require just to not die of retarditis.

>>509165329 (OP)
It's a law of nature that in order to create or even sustain anything, you need to put much more energy into the system than you will ever get back.
This also applies to relationships, although not necessarily an immutable law of nature.
In other words, the guy in OP would go broke or starve

>>509166272
All you need is a well or cistern for water and you can expand your crops to include feed for livestock

>>509165329 (OP)
There is nothing wrong with that picture if you actually have a family. Or you can do all the work yourself like Stardew Valley or Harvest Moon.

>>509165329 (OP)
And acre is enough but that layout is retarded. You'd be amazed at what you could produce with hydroponics run by solar (depending on where you live). I know, it sounds odd, but modern methods give yields that vastly outproduce outside growing. ...unless you are a commercial farm with all the resources of one.

thats how people lived in poverty and under communism ... literally billions of people know how to live like this. youre just a decadent westoid with an upside down world view.
yes it is very hard work and no it is usually not worth the effort.

take this easy example of making noodles ok; a pack of noodles is like 70 cent - if i make that shit myself i would need at least 30 mins. probably more like 1 hour. doing shit by hand is almost always never worth it

>>509166678
go back to plebbit

>>509165329 (OP)
There's no wall/fence with razor wire
There's no gate to keep niggers out
There's no sentry tower
No electricity generation of any sort - a shitty african type windmill, solar panels, maybe a gas generator
Greenhouse is too small.
Presumably it lacks underground shelter / bunker / tunnel system
There's a bigass lawn in the middle just wasting space
Ducks are shit birds and their meat tastes and smells of ground.

>>509166678
kek

/thread

not enough acreage for feed or manure disposal
might work with meat rabbits but then you are relying a lot more on eggs for fat, so you need something that will lay in winter more consistently like ducks

>>509165329 (OP)
>no well
>no septic
>no roads
>no tractor
>no truck
>no machinery
>no shootin car
>no sheds
>no way to remove all the animal shit
Go for a drive a check out Some Amish farms if you really want to do this.
Are you going to run the farm by yourself?
Be prepared to work 7 days a week all day every day to live like a broke jock

>>509165329 (OP)
>tiny grain field
Wow you can maybe make 1 loaf of bread with that.

I’d rather just specialize in maybe 2 things like chickens and some vegetable or fruit like tomatoes or berries, with maybe a small personal veggie/herb garden for my own use while selling extras.

Beehives are a nice idea for extra profit if you have wildflowers planted or nearby.

>>509165329 (OP)
I used to have 2 acres of bare land and I bought a cheap villa made from native timber that I moved onto the land. Had a large vege garden, fruit trees, chickens and a milking cow.
The chickens escaped and lived in an impenetrable blackberry patch, so no eggs.
The milking cow would not let us catch it once it realized what was up, so no milk.
The fruit trees were continually raided by birds and possums, so no fruit.
However the veges grew well, and I made a lot of money when I sold the place.

>>509165329 (OP)
Not at all. I’d 100% die in a SHTF scenario
(No I’m not committing cannibalism)

>>509165673
Its an insane amount of work. I have a small 20 acre homestead cattle ranch and i work a full time corpo stem job its terrible but not giving up.

Fuck this is obviously made by retarded larping townies. None of these functions are stacked, why the fuck is there a lawn anyway? 'Homesteaders' deserve to starve to death. In South Asia and tropical Africa farms of an acre produce all nessecities plus a yield to trade/sell.

At least begin with permaculture design as a base OP, you faggit.

What’s with pol’s obsession for owning a one acre plot and growing/eating everything on it?
We’re humans. We’re a communal society. Buy a one acre plot and use it as a big garden. Work and then exchange the money you earn for goods like eggs and milk and fresh bread.

>>509165329 (OP)
You'd be better off building Chuck's fuck and suck on that one acre.
It would be a lot more fun too

>>509167252
Bro, you're going to starve. You'd be better of with just potato farming and rotating with almost any other vegetable with that little land.

>>509165329 (OP)
that's never going to work
>>509165825
free ranging your poultry not an option? i run some geese with ours, they keep the snakes away and the eggs make the best cakes. plus free range eggs taste better imo
>>509166014
this. we've just over 220K L in tanks which is solely household consumption and it's a constant concern. unless you have a river for stock and irrigation purposes it's always a issue

>>509168381
Potatoes are poisonous
I can grow a ton of massive zucchini
In a 2 foot by 4 foot plot

>>509167717
it may not be instagram worthy but its real mans life and every day you wake up feeling you have a purpose

>>509168162
based. this guy gets it. become dependent on the corporations that hate you and wish to depopulate the earth, do not even think about becoming self sufficient and providing nutritious, chemical free food for you or your family. im from mcdonalds and im here to help

>>509167032
Exactly, I can't even feed one cow with the entire Acre.

>>509168095
based fellow small farmer. never give up

Plant wildflowers and raise bees
Forget the rest of it

>>509168597
>shit
>$25 plus tax, tip, and the tip of your weenir

>>509165329 (OP)
Lawn is a massive waste. And the house should be further from the road so you can properly greet unwelcome authorities.

>>509168162
that doesn't exist anymore. your transactions are in money with jews and you also have to pay a share to the government that hates you despite claiming to be democratically elected

>>509165329 (OP)
I’m a self sufficient as fuck. If the gibs run out I eat a bullet and my dead body becomes someone else’s problem

>>509165329 (OP)
>That pic
Badly optimized.
You have to keep in mind you should do crop rotation with 1 year rest for every 2 years of labor.

>>509168597
>party food
Party theme:
https://youtu.be/3Hyj6jTCd5I

>>509168318

>>509168597
>>509168887
>”Noooooo I don’t want to work and exchange the money I earn for goods and services aaaaaaa”
Even in pastoral LARP fantassy land someone needs to make tools, someone needs to mine metal to make those tools, someone needs to be employed to transport the metal from the mine by rail, horse, wagon, ship. Someone needs to make bricks and someone needs to lay them. Trees need to be felled for timber and someone needs to haul those trees to whoever’s selling them to you etc etc etc.

This is the human experience. We specialise and provide our labour in exchange for what others specialise in.
IRL the kinds of people that own one acre plots literally just use them as big gardens because that’s all it’s good for.

>>509165329 (OP)
You would need a lot more grain

>>509165329 (OP)
>Is there anything wrong with this picture
yes..
-the cows will shit
-the shit will seep into the pond
-the ducks will seek a clean water source - the fruit
-the bugs eating the fruit will migrate over to the veggies and grain
-the overall crop failure causes widespread food shortages for the rest of the animals
-the chickens, in a tremendous fit of hunger and rage
-proceed to shit all over your deck and patio
-meanwhile exorbitant property taxes are in the mail

>>509169170
but in minecraft the tools could be made with wood and stone. it doesn't need to be that big and fancy if its just for you

>>509165329 (OP)
You aren't going to be able to grow enough calories on an acre. Forget about growing grain unless you have at least 5 or 10 -- just store a shit ton of it, and use the space to grow things that supplement it. The lawn is wasted space, better to expand the cow pasture and rotate the cows and chickens back and forth.

>work your ass off 24/7 to produce 1/1000th of what some commercial farmer can do in 1 day.
homesteaders are retarded

>>509165329 (OP)
>lawn
You mean "Useless land"
Aside from the already mentioned lack of water storage, you should honestly have quadruple the number of beehives.
My grandfather used to have six on a quarter acre. He kept them on an outbuilding he made that had a room for storage and where he kept his still, a little room for smoking and curing meat, and a generalized room where he worked, such as preparing the meat. Having them on a building means there is more garden space available.
Also while that amount of grain looks large, it's not gonna go as far as you think. You'd be surprised how much wheat you actually need to make a loaf of bread.

Also, get some pvc pipes, at least as round as a can of soup, knock some holes into the top and set them so a solar powered aquarium pump is keeping a constant flow of water.
In the holes put in sponges and grow lettuce and other quick-growing greens. This is good because you can set them up along your fences so they have very little footprint on your land leaving yet more available space.

>>509165329 (OP)
>anything wrong with this picture
Yeah, it's not all beef paddocks and chicken tractors harnessing the power of the sun with GRASS.

We garden around the house, but that shit would never be enough on it's own.

>>509165329 (OP)
>one acre
>self sufficient
LOL

>>509165329 (OP)
Yes.
It's idealistic and unrealistic.

>>509168162
Windscale massive disaster

Does anyone here actually self sustain or are you all just larping homos?

No one here has a single picture of any of their homesteads and it's kind of nonsense bullshit romanticizing.

>>509170256
I don't, but my grandfather did.
He did not trust the food in this country. Said everything in the stores here was shit.
What people forget about homesteading is the most important part.
"Have a big family with kids to help with the chores, and grandkids to help when they're old enough to help."

Homesteading on your own is physically hard as fuck unless you're willing to make significant sacrifices. Then it's mentally hard as fuck.

>>509170256
The only things I buy in town are out of convenience and not necessity. I go into town about once every 2 months.

>>509165329 (OP)
I have checked out of the jewish prison bus

>quit wagie job
>sold everything I had in my name
>all property I own is in somebody else name
>stopped renewing IDs
>stopped paying taxes
>stopped paying car insurance/plates
>free groceries and free techslop (lots of it is hidden in the back nowadays but there are still plenty on the shelves)
Fridge is always packed, I have no bills or worries, I am fully sufficient.

I am free.

>>509170256
I posted one earlier in this thread and we have a huge garden probably 1/4 acre and no we dont self sustain its impossible. We only eat our own beef though.

>>509165329 (OP)
Tons of shit wrong with it. You'd need 10 acres to even try this. But even then you're better off specializing and trading excess for other people's goods or using this medium of exchange called money.

>>509165329 (OP)
There is not nearly enough pasture space for the livestock. Also chickens right off the road is bad juju. You should have tree cover by the roadside so people cant see your shit.

>>509165329 (OP)
>Is there anything wrong with this picture
yeah its not to scale. you cant fit all that on one acre. the tiny house gives it away

>>509165329 (OP)
>Is there anything wrong with this picture
pasture,p your not doing any grazing on an acre
>how self sufficient
i produced this entire meal.

>>509165329 (OP)
Animals outside of chickens or rabbits can be a lot of work. I’d have to see an elevation map to evaluate this farm map.

>>509165329 (OP)
1PBTID

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>>509166038
Spelt is easy. Grains are easy.
>https://hummingbirdwholesale.com/blogs/our-values/hulless-spelt-story

>>509165825
well you really don't need 40 chickens in a survival situation, I have 6 and get more eggs than I know what to do with.

>>509165329 (OP)
Pasture isn't nearly large enough. Also where does the septic live?

>>509165825
i have ten hens and a rooster and they free range almost all year, i buy 100lbs of feed a year.

>>509171633
pigs are ezpz, eat alot of food though

i ate the first piece of fruit today from my orchard. my 1 plum, it was very delicious

>>509171941
True enough

>>509165673
much less than you think, feeding and cleaning up after animals. you can have crops on irrigation and they require minimal work besides planting and harvesting.
most of the workload is building and landscaping everything initially

>>509171826
there is a very high possibility that he has 40 hens on his imaginary homestead

>>509171875
People don’t free range or use the deep litter methods so they’re scooping shit and blowing tons of money on feed because their chickens can’t forage insects and eat random shit.

>>509165329 (OP)
Most days I kinda wanna die anyway.

>Inb4 don't waste your death
No massacre would be big enough. The amount of kike and nigger blood required to slake my bloodlust and rage, at this point, is impossible for one man to achieve.

>>509165329 (OP)
Your chickens will become prey, your pastures need to rotate around a larger area, and there's tons more depending on what you are trying to achieve. On grid, electric heating, city water and sewer, and access to a store to buy feed and other supplies? Probably good enough, if you have a way to earn income. Would definitely add a black soldier fly larvae harvester for chicken feed and a tomcat or two. What's the point of the duck pond? Could grow tilapia, just have to have it deep enough to prevent herons from predating your fish

>>509172124
i have dealt with at least 10 people like you in the last 6 years ive been doing my homestead. that usually give up in less than 2 years. crops are a fuckload of work, i spent all last week in the heat dome picking and canning green beans, watering my garden, pulling weeds, mowing, weed eating,picking blackberries. getting ground ready for crops alone is a full time job, in a couple weeks i will be swamped with tomatoes that i will have to make into sauce and can. i made blackberry jam the other day on my rocket stove

>>509171875
>>509165825
Short them a bit of food and get a coop on wheels and "crop rotate" them for free pest control and so they get a better diet, they'll even eat mice if opportune enough.

>>509165329 (OP)
>no iron farm
>no trading hall
>no mob grinder/creeper farm
This base sucks OP

>>509172597
kek, i will just let them out before i do all that. picrel

>>509165329 (OP)
where the fuck is the water coming from
you even realize how much water is required for everything?

>>509165329 (OP)
the lawn is wasted space, and if trying to gt natural feed for the chickens, you'll want to increase the pen by upwards of x3 as they are very good at eating their pen clean until its a mud patch.
that said, free ranging them is probably better regardless, albeit you then have to protect your other crops from them which can be a pain, aswell as losing some to wild animals (but you'd be surprised at how stubbornly ild animals will try and find a way into a pen anyhow).

I'm not self sufficient at all. I have to wage slave for a living and I lose half my salary to stock market gambling. Only the rich can afford a farm.

>>509172819
I mean if you already free range them then whatever it's fine. 40 chickens is too much to keep in a coop all the time.

>>509165329 (OP)
how self sufficient are you , faggot? you post a cartoon on /pol/. i have horses.

>>509173284
Do you eat horse? Are you Ikea?

>>509165329 (OP)
>1 acre
>2 tiny pastures
What cows are ok living in those conditions. Honestly asking. I would love to have one, but from reading online I was under the impression that I would need to clear quite a bit of land for them to graze.

>>509173390
you can have them in a little pen like that if you feed them hay

>>509165329 (OP)
Guns and ammo us all you need to survive full on raider mode. If we ever need to rely on backyard gardens, society's already collapsed and its time to eat the neighbors.
Fuck, everytime the power's out I give my neighbors 2-3 hours before I go hunter mode. My kids won't go hungry

>>509173588
nigger youre scared of ticks

>>509165329 (OP)
"self sufficent".
Okay. Where's the wood lot and how do you recycle your shit?

>>509173588
>we ever need to rely on backyard gardens, society's already collapsed and its time to eat the neighbors.
Look into how people survived Soviet times. EVERYONE grew and raised as much food as they possibly could. This went on for decades.

>>509165329 (OP)
One acre isn't enough for all a family's food needs

>>509173742
>youre scared of ticks
Everyone should be. I knew some farmers and their whole family had that tick disease where they couldn't eat beef or drink alcohol.

>>509174218
i pull 4 or 5 off me a day and im totally fine

>>509173503
Do you need to pay for insemination in order to get milk?

>>509171185
>we dont self sustain its impossible
Based Bojangles drive threw farmer

>>509175020
yes, you can hire a vet to do it artificial, or just do it yourself. you can buy bull semen here
https://store.absglobal.com/product-category/beef-semen/

>>509173588
You’re obese. Post a picture of your own feet kek

>>509165329 (OP)

You don't do basically anything with those little grain fields. Should be potatoes instead. Also the pastures for whatever animals seem too small. The barn is too small. Maybe you could keep some pigs there but you would have to import most of the feed.

>>509174159
He doesn’t know most people ban together and will skin, boil tar and feather faggots like that based on history.

Duck pond is signifigant wasted space. Both bigger than it needs to be and also becuase if you're going to keep ducks they should be pretty much right alongside the chickens and the coops consolidated. Still subdivided so you can meet their individual needs but having them on opposite sides is stupid. I'd just not do ducks though, chickens are just easier and fulfill more or less the same need. Instead of hedgerows use more modern fencing or build low walls simply for the sake of ease of upkeep. Hedgerows are living things that need to be managed and cared for while with fencing or walls you know if it's growing along the fenceline it doesn't belong and can use modern tools to clean it up without worrying about damage anything. Doing all this and insisting on also mantaining a lawn is also sort of odd and seems to kind of defeat the whole purpose of maximizing productive space. You need that space for all the equipment and workshop space your going to be needing for your tools and their upkeep. You do want a big enough open area for burn and compost piles though.

>>509175475
Goats.

>>509165329 (OP)
make it 200 chickens and you could maybe live off of it. the plants are all useless but tomatoes and potatoes.
there are no matoes and taters what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>509175774
goats are a pain in the ass, also a pond is very nice thing to have, its the next big purchase i plan to make

>>509165477
mein land of the free i have no loicense for my potato pots!

>>509175863
>200 chickens
fuck me, you couls survive comfortably off ten hens, you could even hatch eggs to raise some meat birds

>>509175926
he is a cityfag who has no idea what he is talking about.

a cow needs 5 kilo of hay to eat/day. 2 cows is 10 kilo of hay/day.
that tiny patch of grass will be eaten to the soil in 5 days. then your cow is ready to be slaughtered because you cant feed it.

>>509176018
what are you going to eat over 365 days? thats just one year?

>>509165329 (OP)
grain is retarded

>>509176213
8 eggs a day, when hens slow down in winter eat meat birds and eggs i water glassed

>>509165329 (OP)
when you have cows you need an apple dump for all the shit, is not included. when 2 cows constantly shit on this tiny patch of grass it is ruined very quick.
300 bales of hay for 2-3 months, no storage space for hay. you didnt think any of this through for reality of living. this is a fantasy drawing.

>>509165329 (OP)
>No cats
Big fucking fail

>>509176213
To be fair, he could eat the animals and probably survive for a year or so

>>509165329 (OP)
my cow will just eat some grass, no. they have to eat hay regardless and need power food or they will literally starve and these things shit 6-8 times a day gigantic piles of shit.
youre a city dweller!!!!!

>>509176479
>300 bales of hay for 2-3 months
just stop, you have zero clue about cattle.

>>509168095
This photo was clearly taken in Australia, nice larp.

>>509176213
You can breed and sustain a chicken flock of 20 dual purpose meat birds forever. You’re clueless.

>>509165449
/Thread fuck this gay ass Earth

good luck with your fantasy

>>509176674
id recommend chickens because cleaning their shit is easy and they can be fed easily unlike cows.

>>509176674
i need to get a broady hen, im currently using an incubator. i might buy some silkys i heard they were very broady

>>509176634
yea i just worked on a farm for the last 10 years and carried every fucking bale of hay on my own but the retards on 4trans always know everythin better. dwelling in mommies basement.
i have a literal feeding schedule in my head you dipshit because i fed these things.

>>509165329 (OP)
>Self suficient

You're not self suficient, if the government decides to raise taxes on your turf you're going to be destitute. They can evict you to push a building project through. They will park a drone above your one acre and monitor it, cataloging everything you do and taxing it each month. They will force you to submit detailed reports and carry a smartphone around even when feeding livestock.

Oh you're going to fight? Drone drops one grenade, cripples you. Drops another one and zooms on your blown up stomach. You niggers have NO IDEA what kind of dystopia is around the corner. No idea.

>>509176818
I use hemp and a deep litter method and clean the hen house once a year. Natural bacteria breaks down their poop and slowly starts to compose. It additionally provides energy free heat in the winter.

>>509176916
No real farmer uses 4chan or has ever heard of it

>>509176891
Nice. Not sure about that breed.

>>509165329 (OP)
You need .5acres of optimally planted land to get enough calories for one person for one year. Family of four needs two acres of land to stop going to the grocery store. Animal pens are nice, but again, you'll be carting in food to feed them. Cows take about one acre of irrigated grassland not to starve, plus overwintering feed. That's just basic calories and doesn't take into account protein requirements. If you want to have livestock they require about 10x the calories to produce one calorie of animal protein, so one cow needs five acres. For the livestock and people living on this one acre you'd need approximately 30acres of planted, irrigated, animal feed crops to not starve to death. Or go vegan.

>>509176983
ok basement dweller

>>509165825
>40 chickens on 27 acres
>she doesnt free range

guess youll just have to sell that bussy

>>509176983
What barrier of proof do you need to accept you're wrong?

>>509177056
Exactly, and where is he going to get consumables like toilet paper? The average person uses approximately 1 roll per day, give or take. For a family of 4 that's 28 TP rolls a week!! More than 100/ month!!

>>509165329 (OP)
>gutted by deer in a week

>>509166038
>farming
>to make bread

>>509177252
Get a Japanese toilet with a bidet. No toilet paper needed. Or reduced by 95%.

>>509176958
what are you talking about what do you want to eat idiot? 30 eggs/week?
why is it always so retarded with americans.

weve been through this shit allready.
youneed 200 chickens. end of story.
do you want me to list the calories you need to consume?

if you want to be fucking brainamputated retards fine, but not on my time. later idiots.

youre fucking idiots and this is why we grow the most potatoes/acre and not you, fucking useless idiots.

>>509166272
>water bill

nigger, what?

>lazy data mining
>foreveralone
I've already revealed most of my shit for my family here anyway, so
>peepee poopoo niggerkike

>>509177262
nah, nightshades and any plant with fuzzy leaves deer wont touch. i grow tons of shit without fencing.

>>509177342
I knew somebody that had a bidet and my drunk ass used their bathroom, washed my hands and then dried them on the family poop towel because I didn't realize it was an ass drying towel just hanging there where a normal person would hang a hand towel. Gross

What's the point of that much lawn? Seems like wasted space.

>>509177365
No clue what you’re taking about. You need to breed, hatch chicks annually to replace your hens and roosters and cull the extra roosters as meat birds. 20 hens and 1 roosters as the main flock produces over 2500 eggs a year (low 2.5
eggs per bird per week average) with most dual purpose birds. You don’t need 200 chickens.

>>509165329 (OP)
>lawn
that shit does not belong there, it's a luxury item that serves no role in survival

>>509177660
You need space to practice your golf

>>509165673
Its a lot of work but it gets easier and easier as you automate and simplify some parts. While wagecucking stays the same difficulty regardless of progress

>>509177800
he could graze his animals on it.

>>509177554
What the fuck are you talking about? Modern bidets have dryers. Smearing shit all over your ass is subhuman. Causes hemorrhoids.

>>509177911
Then by definition it's not a lawn, it's pasture

>>509165329 (OP)
Try feeding that livestock with that amount of food kek

>>509176983
Didn't a famer who knows how cows work just tell that guy he's wrong about cows eating more than a tiny pen of grass?

>>509172124
this. all the work is in getting the ground ready to plant and picking the stuff. weeding is a meme and doesnt take that long once you get the area established. watering can be as easy as setting up an automatic sprinkler system, if you have a lot of acres then you need to move the sprinkler system which can take like 30 minutes, big woopdy doo. for 1 acre its a few weeks getting things set up then having your kids do maintenance for 20 minutes when they get back from school. not a big deal.

You are better off with quail, a fish run, and a hutch for rabbits.
Goat if you want milk.

Black fly larva and duckweed can feed the fish easily

>>509176916
post your left arm tanline

>>509165329 (OP)
enjoy spending half the day hauling water from god knows where just to try to keep your starving animals hydrated at least

>>509178124
lmao, they need to hurry up and ban pesticides so food prices sky tocket and you starve.

>>509178146
i looked into quail but you have to incubate their eggs and to produce enough to make it worth while would require a large expensive incubator

>>509178290
i have literally worked on a farm and my family owns a big ranch

>>509165329 (OP)
>No fence
>Tiny greenhouse
>Wasted space with both a patio and a deck
>Not NEAR enough space for cows (you need 2 acres per cow)
>House too close to road
>Trees close to house that could fall on it
>Merely dwarf fruit trees
>Raising ducks when you could just expand the chicken coop
>No well
>Growing grain at all
>Windbreaking hedges even though you have tightly packed trees bordering the property

>>509177902
depends on what you wagecuck.
I have automated my office job to the point that I work maybe 1/5th of the days I get paid for.

>>509168597
it's about becoming dependant on your local village and people you are in shooting range of you, but also have land around your land which means "fuck I have to deal with this shithead for the rest of my life, better not be a dick about it"
seperation of work was humans greatest idea, overspecification it's big downfall since it invited gay shit like jews, money and banks

>>509175926
They pay extra to have restrictions. They dont want the neighborhood going to hell because some fuckhead moves in next door. I dont live in a gated community or have a HOA, but I can understand why some choose to live under those rules and pay for the privilege.

>>509177252
>The average person uses approximately 1 roll per day, give or take. For a family of 4 that's 28 TP rolls a week!! More than 100/ month!!
OP is NGMI

>>509178438
>>Windbreaking hedges even though you have tightly packed trees bordering the property
are you boldly assuming wind isnt going to come from the north? Thats very weird anon, you are a very weird person.

>>509165329 (OP)
you have no energy, no bees for polination and no place to store harvest.

you have no water beyond that duck pond and based on size ducks will make pond stagnate. Add rainwater barrels

Grain area is too small, replace with potatoes, squash or beans. Add berries and nuts to forest.

>>509178438
i have seen multiple people show up with these fucking drawing to make a homestead. when a new homesteader shows me that shit i immediately nope out.

>>509174295
Until you aren't.

>>509178941
>Add rainwater barrels
this shit is a meme and the number one reason homesteads around me fail. if you are doing water catchment you need thousands of gallons of storage. i have a 1500 gal tank and i use that in just a couple days when it gets super hot during the summer

>>509179452
Cisterns can be used as water catchment or water staging from a well.

>>509165329 (OP)
if you maintain your plot like this year in and year out the soil will eventually go bad. You must rotate all pastures or artificially increase the nitrogen in the soil with other added minerals including a season of rest in order to best maintain soil health.

>>509168514
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucurbitacin

>>509172124
>most of the workload is building and landscaping everything initially
Bullshit, the tending is far and away the most amount of work and never ends not even after harvest, then the harvest is the fun part but the work ain't done, you're not eating all that harvest while it's still fresh
>>509172554
>picking and canning green beans, watering my garden, pulling weeds, mowing, weed eating,picking blackberries
This, wait, pickling blackberries? With vinegar? I love vinegar and pickled stuff but never heard of pickling fruit

>>509178124
>weeding is a meme and doesnt take that long once you get the area established
Maybe in Canada but in the southeastern US, the weeds don't stop, you can pick them clean well before going to seed for a decade straight and the wind will just blow more seeds in. Unless you're growing in a dome, there's no stopping them down here. I just have a 2,000 sq ft garden and I spend at least an hour everyday just weeding

>>509180573
picking them off the bush (harvesting)

>>509172554
>>509180573
Lol, oh, PICKING blackberries, yeah I have five mature blueberry bushes, just picked gallon number 30 amd they're still going, it's worth it but it takes time. What kind of blackberries you doing? I have wild ones growing all over my place but they're very seedy and the seeds are quite bitter, would like to grow one that isn't such a pain to eat/cook

>>509181103
I misread it as pickling, I am in pickle mode lately, just did some okra and have a bunch of cukes ready for the jar

>>509180078
I peel my zucchini and fry them with eggs

You're all wrong, btw.
This is the way.
https://x.com/AlpacaAurelius/status/1938234892397011051