Thread 509170377

Why is pedophilia generally viewed as morally "wrong" nowadays but transsexualism for minors is viewed as morally acceptable? Isn't this a contradiction?

>>509170377 (OP)
Kikels

>>509170377 (OP)
Go back to middle-east pedo

Why is abortion legal but killing a pregnant woman will get you a double homicide charge

>>509170377 (OP)
a child is physically vulnerable, they don't have developed sex organs and they can't properly consent to things because their brain function is still in development.

>bbuut what if th-
no
>but anon there might be a cas-
NO NIGGER NO NO EXEPTIONS.
>B-bbbbut trans and gays
Being gay or trans is different because pedophiles are attracted to youth and how vulnerable they are. This is more than a sexual preference. It's a paraphilia based on age. It's like liking feet.
>bbbbut you said it's like fe-
NIGGER YOU CAN'T HURT A CHILD I'LL COME TO BRITBONGISTAN AND SLICE YOUR BALLS

>>509171095
False. There is no relation between consensual adult-child sex and harm.

James Cantor, PhD:
>The research is much more consistent with the conclusion that harm is caused instead by coercion, manipulation, secrecy, and by courting kids who already have problems, not the sexual interactions per se.
Michael Bailey, PhD:
>Indeed, the best scientific evidence suggests that the most typical experiences considered childhood sexual abuse may not be as harmful as most people think. Specifically, sexual activity that children engage in voluntarily (albeit illegally) with adults is nearly uncorrelated with undesirable outcomes
Jordan Peterson, PhD:
>Did you know that about 20 years ago the American Psychological Association published a paper showing that most people who were sexually abused as children recovered with very little psychological damage? This is an unsayable truth.
Richard Green, PhD:
>Ultimately, scientists, if no one else, must be objective in their approach to this emotional issue. Judgmental terminology regarding intergenerational sexuality is more dramatic than that in the earlier psychiatric literature on homosexuality. There, patients were labeled perverts and psychopaths. Here, the experience is always abuse, the children are invariably victims, the adults are perpetrators, and those who later report childhood sexual experiences are, without apology to victims of the Nazi Holocaust, survivors.
Bruce Rind, PhD:
>Self-reported reactions to and effects from CSA indicated that negative effects were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women. The college data were completely consistent with data from national samples. Basic beliefs about CSA in the general population were not supported.

>>509170377 (OP)
>Isn't this a contradiction?
No, because transgender stuff just involves changing what you're called, and possibly taking hormones to change your appearance. Pedophilia involves having sex. Turns out these are not the same thing.

>>509171328
>experts say
KIKE

>>509170377 (OP)
Yes, that is why we should kill both tranny-pushers and pedophiles.

>>509170377 (OP)
Pedos rape children. A trans kid gets the haircut they want, a name they like, and clothes they feel comfortable in. Comparing the two is dishonest.

>>509170377 (OP)
>transsexualism for minors is viewed as morally acceptable
Except it isn't, it's a hugely contentious topic of debate while simultaneously being a fringe issue that impacts almost no one. Which is why they keep it at the forefront politically. We can't revolt if we're busy arguing about stupid bullshit.

>>509170377 (OP)
false X2 retard

>>509170377 (OP)
Transexuals are to be shunned and ignored.

>>509170377 (OP)
>Isn't this a contradiction?
Yes, I agree.
We should go back to stoning all sodomites.

>>509171539
Can you prove them wrong?

>>509170377 (OP)
there is nothing wrong with having sex with teen boys, as long as its consensual.

>>509170377 (OP)
>i simply can't account for the absurdity in the world!

jews anon

it's jews

Its wrong because make your own damn kid this ones the one I made

>>509171856
no way did he actually say that.

>>509171328
"Very little psychological damage". What a load of evil shit. Those quotes all say the same, that there is long term adverse effects, but "they're not as much as our wicked pedo brains interperet the average person to believe to come from this abuse." Also, they clearly don't consider turning out gay and effiminate as an adverse effect, so they're just spewing a bunch of crap.

You have a demon that feeds off of and loves that you lust after children, If you fasted you would see how this unnatural desire starts to go away. I would know

I was an atheist two years ago, quantum mechanics taught me there is a Creator, prayer from the same younger sister I used to lust after brought me to know the God of the Bible is that Creator. Judgement day is an inevitable event for us all, harming the innocent, let alone for lusts sake, is among the worst we could possibly do.

>>509170639
The age of consent in the Talmud is 3 years and one day for girls and eight for boys.
Jeffrey Epstein is the most prominent child sex trafficker in history.
Mary was between 12 and 16 when Jesus was born. Joseph was 70.
Americans were marrying 9 year olds up until the onset of ww2.

You dumb kike.

>>509170377 (OP)
Transsexualism is satanic, sexualization of minors is pedophilia. This is life as a slave in a zionist country.

>>509173946
>Joseph was 70.
Source?

>>509173946

No it isn't.

Epstein fucked 17 year olds.

>>509174567

This is a map of missiles hits in Israel. Stop lying

>>509170377 (OP)
>why do I believe the fake shit on the internet while questioning the views of actual humans?
I dunno. Probably stupidity.

>>509174665
Yep

Children don’t even have secondary sex characteristics nor do they have the mental acuity to understand sex and its implications. You really don’t see the issue? Somehow I think you do but just want to justify your sick fantasies.

>>509170377 (OP)
Subtle.

>>509170377 (OP)
Go away you jew pedo.

>>509170377 (OP)

Because trannies think that if they had been allowed to transition earlier, they might have had a chance at passing and having an adjusted life in their preferred gender.

>>509170377 (OP)
post more cute white boys

The AOC should be 18+ to protect pedos

>>509173946
go back

>>509170377 (OP)
It’s one step in the normalization of other evils. Many steps came before it and many will come after it because without God law humans have a static sense of right and wrong.

>>509175497
You first, gypsy.

>>509170377 (OP)
dude looks just like me when i was about 7, wtf lol.

>>509175540
>gypsy
I'm a white man born in an European country. I belong to these lands. So when are you going back muhammad

>>509170377 (OP)
I dont see the equivalence. You dont get to indulge your pedophilic impulses because children with mental illnesses like gender dysphoria exist. It makes no sense

>>509173946
>You dumb kike
Pedo semite projecting...

>>509170377 (OP)
The people that disapprove of one disapprove of the other, goyim are retards who don't think and are bred to give the kikes a false sense of security in the idea of a democratic and societal moral consensus that simply doesn't exist in a population majority dominated by non-humans, with a false media narrative choreographing events alternative to public consensus of reasoned individuals, all of whom are on the exact same page about this and communicating in broader spiritual, instinctual, and moralistic understandings, that a dirty kike like yourself has the brainpower to comprehend. We have the holy ghost, you're a misaligned hive of self-obsessed niggers organized by brain worms and electrical signals that we happen to have more control over than you implicitly.

Kill yourself and those you cherish in this life in mercy, for we will not, and we so so with God guiding our hand.

Asherah knelt, faggot.

>>509170377 (OP)
Because trannys are pedos, retard.

>>509170377 (OP)
One might increase White birth rates, one will most certainly decrease them

>transsexualism for minors is viewed as morally acceptable
It's not though.

If American women got their say it woudl be 4 for sex surgery, 16 for prostitution + chad hookups and 27-30 for age of consent in a relationship

>>509175300
AOC is a paper thin shield against the various ways children are sexually corrupted anymore. It isn't even debatle in our culture today.
As soon as at least 80% of people live out fidelious relationships with much more limited instances of adultery we can talk about AOC.
Ban porn.

>>509175664
Kike projecting kike behaviour on the entire Semitic race. 911 was mossad, all the refugees in Europe are niggers or rejects from civilized lands breeding a resentment for kikes beyond kike comprehension.

We interact because your insecurity is a self bait to project falsehoods and reveal yourselves, we teach eachother by bullying you, it's wholesome, honestly.

>>509175508
∆∆∆∆∆∆ This right here. They've been working on normalizing pedaphelia for years. Trans kids is an important step. You have to get normies to believe that kids a sexual beings before you can normalize raping them.

>>509175732
You want age gap acceptance, not pedophilia. Nobody needs a 12 yo as a wife but it would certainly be good if a 30 yo could get a 20yo without much issues.

>>509175765
>16 for prostitution
based american womyn

>>509170377 (OP)
Because it fucks you up for life when u get molested. Pedophiles should be executed in the street

OP is a kike. Sage this thread. TKD.

For a good while, both the niggers dicks as well as this guy were nowhere to be seen on /pol/. Now they're back. Theories?

>>509171328
Experts (jews) say. Kill yourself pedophile make the world a little bit better

>>509175815
>bullying you
Eat pork and gfu

Those who don't eat pork -which is the best meat in the world- are wrong anyow

>>509175846
Now you are a "pedo" for going for 20yr olds, thats how fucking evil and gay shit is. but guess what, if you are Chad or some rich jew its okay" according to feminist cunts but if you are an AVERAGE GUY you have to date the fucking 30yr old fat fuck cunt with the busted pussy. Fuck this world. Kill all feminist soon.

>>509176008
something something israel is in trouble something maga something slide

>>509176059
Dual mating strategy, they want men they consider to be good bfs to keep waiting being sidelined. If you act like a crook and they think it is only short term they say nothing.

>>509175846
Presuming a society functioned normally, most men would marry at an equivalent age to women at a relatively early stage in adulthood, late teens early 20s, dedicated commitment death do us part type shit, but a significant number of men would be otherwise indisposed and out doing other shit into their 30s or 40s, and might not marry until then, while still most eligible women for them to marry are either widows, or young women in their late teens and early 20s, their being far fewer holdouts.

>>509170377 (OP)
You're missing the point by thinking about it as right or wrong. If someone knew you were sexualizing their kid you'd find out very quickly why it's wrong

>>509176180
Greeks and Romands did it like that, they had 30 year olds marrying 14 year olds. Personally I wouldn't want a 14yo, IMHO early 20s is best

>>509176030
>Literal swine
Anunnaki genetically nigger DNA reengineered goy slop with trichinosis worms, subhuman. Maybe older societies know older information, maybe sewing artificial ideological divisions is how kikes try to prevent people in common agreement about causes and concerns of globalist satanism from effectively communicating, in the vague idea that the presence of detractors make an idea seem weak.

>>509170377 (OP)
Jannies…

>>509171756
Trannies are sexual deviants. The fact that they're obsessed with children is a red flag

>>509175991
>Because it fucks you up for life when u get molested
But many societies have allowed adults and children to enjoy sexual relations together, without any negative benefits. Just see pic rel.

And prominent psychologists themselves say that consensual adult-child sex is not causally linked with harm: >>509171328

>>509175767
I know but its a whiffle bat against men who cant cross the rubicon and its based

>>509176251
I think it's basically always fair to judge that harshly, there shouldn't be any overlap in parenting in nurturing a spouse. That sort of relationship is inherently nonsexual, it's fucking insane to even consider justifying that shit on account of any sort of horniness.

>>509176559
I still think it should be legal, women always want to negotiate men down to the lowest possible terms and hence I support any guy wanting a 14 yo even if I wouldn't do it. Simply because that alone will easen the market for what I want.

>>509176432
>prominent psychologists
>le psychology
you better start reading its history and the characters involved in it

>>509176432
>it fucks up kids
>kids have boundary issues because of chomos
>kids go to jail as adult because of the molestation
>kids join prison gangs
>gangs kill on sight chomos
>ngmi

You should pray to Jesus. Maybe he will take your sin away. The psychologist should be fixing the chomo not legitimizing it.

>>509176685
After sexual maturity I think it does come down to parental discretion and individual emotional maturity. I think 14 is pretty young but existential conditions develop young minds differently, historically that hasn't been the case. In the modern context, I like 18, under healthier conditions, you could expect a father not to sell his 14 year old daughter to some 38 year old.

>>509170377 (OP)
It makes perfect sense when you realize they’re both part of degenerate white culture

>>509176914
Women always try to negotiate us down so I lead with super unfavorable terms for them. Gloves are off now.

The reality is that most trannies don't pass. A lot of them think that if they had started trooning out when they were kids, they could have wound up passing, but the truth is that must of them didn't even make this decision until they were already adults. They want to groom all children in the event that the kids eventually get tricked into trooning out and can potentially wind up passing, because they wish someone had did that to them when they were kids. They want to force all children into taking puberty blockers until they're old enough to make that decision so that the feelings of 0.0001% of kids can successfully troon out.

>>509176851
But Kinsey interviewed men in prison who had sexual experience with men as pubescents (12, 13, 14,), and the majority of them reported the experiences as positive, retrospectively.

>"Prison participants had a minor–adult contact as their first postpubertal same-sex sex twice as often as general participants, and their experience involved penetration in three-quarters of cases compared to only half the time for general participants, and it was paid for (i.e., prostitution) three times as often. Despite these differences, reactions to these events by prison and general participants were the same, with combined results of 66% positive reactions (i.e., enjoyed it “much”) versus 15% emotionally negative reactions (e.g., shock, disgust, guilt). [...] Comparing prison and general participants also showed that the CSA–trauma–crime link often claimed (i.e., where minor–adult sex is said to produce trauma that leads to later criminal behavior) did not hold in the Kinsey same-sex samples, because trauma (the middle element) was mostly missing. This null result for the link alerts that trauma needs to be shown rather than assumed when considering this link."
>"Examining reactions in relation to technique is useful for assessing claims about seriousness, with its assumed greater trauma, often made in reference to minor–adult sex [...] Younger boys with men reacted emotionally negatively less often with increasing levels of invasiveness in a significant linear trend: outercourse (28%), oral intercourse (16%), and anal intercourse (0%)."
>"Regarding minors with adults, participants with no arousal on seeing males still reacted positively in the majority of cases and infrequently reacted emotionally negatively."
Rind, Bruce (2018): First Postpubertal Same-Sex Sex in Kinsey's General and Prison Male Same-Sex Samples: Comparative Analysis and Testing Common Assumptions in Minor-Adult Contacts. Archives of Sexual Behavior

>>509170377 (OP)
Give it time. The psychos on the left are trying to normalize it.

>>509176851
At its core level the only way to fix someone who's willing to abuse the actual manifestation of innocence for their own hedonistic pleasure as a literal genuine act in their life is to shoot them in the fucking head.

>>509176459
>men who cant cross the rubicon and its based
The AOC was much lower when it was generally understood a young woman would get married and start a family. Now, it's high but that serves the purpose not exposing young people to the adult sex world. Especially, not the experienced people who have stupid high body counts. By fucking a thirteen year old just because you want to fuck her you're demonstrating a model for adult sexual relationships that aren't about pairing. They aren't about building. They're about sexual gratification, which accelerates whoredom as more people follow this model leading to low birth rates and unfulfilled people that just drift.

>>509176968
Eat all of whatever pills are you have on hand real quick

>>509176390
Only republicans want children's genitals inspected to play sports. https://kansasreflector.com/2023/04/09/kansas-anti-trans-sports-law-opens-door-for-genital-inspections-of-kids-thats-the-simple-truth/

>>509177177
Cope, you live in one of the most feminist countries and still don't get it. Women don't care about terms being fair or not, they will always negotiate for more under the premise of things not being fair.

If we established 14 being the age they would demand 16 tomorrow. If you accept 21 they will eventually thereafter say 30 and 22 is a creepy couple. That is how it is.

Petition that it must be done by an independent pediatrician if you're worried. Any athletic dept. employee should be uncomfortable with such a request anyways.

>>509176433
I want to squeeze all her blackheads.

>>509170377 (OP)
Because pedophilia is morally wrong, and so is mutilating children because they have gender dysphoria.

The reason pedophilia might have been "acceptable" in the past is because children were not protected in the same way as nowadays. Child labor was common as so were child marriages. Nowadays we know this stage in human life is crucial for development, thus we have laws to protect them.

pedophilia is wrong because it hurts the child
>Source?
The arch pedo of the 70s himself wrote a book on it while he was molesting kids in the 70s in Germany - all of them shot themselves after being discarded by him

>>509176996
>>509176996
>They want to groom all children in the event that the kids eventually get tricked into trooning out and can potentially wind up passing, because they wish someone had did that to them when they were kids.
it's basically projecting parenting
>>509177030
look retard. using pedophile as an umbrella term is already retarded
i'll give a clue in the most monke way possible: "social pedophilia" is different from "pederasty"
in one there are social standards that are not compromised but enforced. this is what rome supposedly did. it's not that it is positive, it simply didn't matter to begin with

"pederastry", on the other hand, goes against the social norms and thus exists mostly in non-social pedophile civilizations. in these societies this will, and it has, fuck people up

>>509170377 (OP)
Hi Josh

>>509177196
Also, do these kids not have birth certificates? Don't schools have those on record?

>>509170377 (OP)
>Isn't this a contradiction?
most people in the united states are so brain broken they dont even feel the cognitive dissonance at this point because they arent even really cognitive. i expected maybe someone to say something about us making al qaeda our allies now, but no, no one seems to notice or even wonder why that would be i dont know kind of like pissing on 911 firefighter graves.

>>509178261
>i expected maybe someone to say something about us making al qaeda our allies now, but no, no one seems to notice or even wonder why that would be i dont know kind of like pissing on 911 firefighter graves
breh
what a lovely country

>>509177081
based and redpilled take, whores and whore enablers are both objectively bad

>>509178261
That isn't what this discussion is about.

>>509175846
30 and 20 is already accepted and not a big deal outside liberal American cities. And even in America only millennial women and zoomer incels care about age gaps