>"Communism doesn't work because it...it- it just doesn't okay!!1!1!"

any system works to a point. Do you want to live in that system is another question. USA is more communist than capitalist btw.

Can you point to a country where it works?

Being a wagie and working till you die for your rich boss with chinese characteristics

>>509179538
>USA is more communist than capitalist btw.

This. If you want to see an example of why actual Communism doesnt work, look no further than this country during the last 15 years.

It just works!

It doesn’t and the chinese are not communists they are globo communists AND are the worst most failed state and the worst little rat farming bottom cucks on Earth.

>>509179432 (OP)
All -isms are kike for people who don't believe in themselves.

>>509179563
Owning a walk in closet sized condo and having no economic mobility besides that with Chinesr characteristics

OP will come back to this thread and e-argue with us in good faith.

>>509179538
Incredible levels of cope that people who espouse said takes are never able to substantiate in any meaningful capacity.

>>509179540
I posted it. Vietnam if you need more.

>>509179563
Uh huh. Meanwhile, in Yoo Ess of Aye:
>"In response to a tweet showing demonstrations in France against President Macron’s government pension reforms (without a vote in the National Assembly), Musk stated, 'Macron is doing the difficult, but right thing. The retirement age of 62 was set when life spans were much shorter. It is impossible for a small number of workers to support a massive number of retirees.'"

>>509179614
Meds

>>509179432 (OP)
No form of government works when jews are involved. 109 countries have already learned this lesson.

>>509179768
Remind me of the home ownership rates between China and the US again

>>509179605
That is a product of a capitalist, hedonist, individualist state.

>>509179432 (OP)
What's the Special Economic Zone in China again?

>>509179960
>Uh huh. Meanwhile, in Yoo Ess of Aye:
That's the point retard. Everywhere you go is capitalism, with slight differences in levels of authoritarianism. Difference is just how that authoritarianism is dressed up, UK, USA, China same shit with different "ideology".

>>509179720
Most people I know with autism believe in themselves just fine.

>>509179720
>Mentally raped by liberalism so much he genuinely beleives he is an atomized individual

Praying for you, Brit anon. That witch will pay for what she did to you all in hell.

>>509179614
>y-yeah their entire political establishment have pledged to uphold Marx vision but they actually HATE communism heh
>communism is when poor
Why is capitalist education so bad?

>>509179930
Damn, you were right.
He did.

Communism is when factories are owned by their workers and fields are owned by the farmers.

USA with its worker cooperatives is more of a communist state than modern China.

>>509180110
Believes*

>CAPTCHA: G00KP

>>509180151
>Why is capitalist education so bad?
Because rich people took over education back in the '20s specifically to make people love capitalism.
James Corbett goes into some detail about this in his "Media Matrix" documentary.
Highly recommended.

>>509179960
And Vietnam is a shit hole you fucking retard.

>>509179432 (OP)
>IT'S NOT DA REEL GOMMUNIZM

>>509179432 (OP)
And yet you refuse to live in a communist country, why?

>>509179432 (OP)
China has a market economy. It literally doesn't work

>>509180207
>the country we bombed to rubble for 10+ years then sanctioned for 30 years afterwards has problems
lemme guess, they just need to pull harder on them bootstraps?

>>509179432 (OP)
Don't seem to be a whole lot of lights on there.

>China does something good
>Of course. Communism is inevitable.

>China does something bad
>That was not real Communism

>>509180207
Vietnam is trending upwards. When the dollar loses its reserve status (< next 30 years) you'll be a third world shithole the likes of which the West has never seen before. And you're not skilled or willing enough to course correct.

>>509180254
This, if it isn’t real communism then why can’t we have the same non-communist stuff like nationalized banks, energy industry, etc?

>>509179432 (OP)
china hasn't been communist since the 70s.

>>509180320
When China does something good, the people feel it and their lives improve. When the US does something good, a few guys get all the benefits.

>>509179432 (OP)
>china
>communist
>exporting to rivals for their fiat to keep their workers from rioting weekly
>can't pay their workers half the time
hmm

>>509180452
So you're saying that the wealth trickles down in China?

>>509180287
>Still unironically believes "markets = capitalism"
Anon...

>"Communism doesn't work because it...it- it just doesn't okay!!1!1!"

>>509180542
>Communism = whatever last night's drug fuelled bender told me

>>509180398
>>509180542

>>509180542
There is literally no marxist economic theory going on in China. You are a retard

CA residents pay more in tax

China shills are so demoralised.

>>509180637
>Communism is when taxes
Americabros...just how bad is the education system over there? Be honest. We won't laugh at you.

>>509180730
So Communism is when what faggot?

>>509180637
>California is socialist
California is where most of the non-failing big businesses in this country are.
The USSR had a max income tax rate for regular workers of 13%

>>509180768
When the workers own the means of production.
Nothing more, nothing less.

>>509179432 (OP)
China is fascist
if we want to call it communism, okay

>>509179432 (OP)
in usa about 40% of economy is state controlled, in china its about 50%. direct government spending is lower for china than usa as share of gdp but china has more direct control over and ownership of enterprises

>>509180845
So do China own the factories making iPhones?

>>509180866
China is Marxist-Leninist.
Once upon a time, other branches of socialism used to call this "red fascism"

So you're not entirely off the mark, but it has many differences from the usual definition of fascism.

>>509180923
Yes

>>509181021
As in the workers in that factory collectively own that factory?

>Walmart's global revenue for the financial year 2025 was $680.985 billion

you didnt beeld dat

>No homeless
>No browns
>No billionaires
>No boomers ruining the future for their portfolio
>No porn industry
>No support for israel
>No blackrock chancellors
>No endless wars to make line go up
>No individualist whore culture

>>509180923
China is a highly imperfect communist state.
Factories are a mix of state ownership and private ownership.

This can be traced back to Deng Xiaoping, who is widely regarded as a western stooge.

>>509181118
see
>>509181179

>>509180970
no, its just fascism with a hammer and sickle sticker slapped on it

>>509179432 (OP)
> It only works when whites develop it for them

>>509179432 (OP)
China is not communist, its fascist with a thin red paint.Just look at their economy, its nothing communist about it.

Communism doesn't work because you eventually run out of people to starve.

>>509179432 (OP)
I'm sorry faggot, having jews in charge of the government and economy will never be a good idea. Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same shekel.

>>509181220
China has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of deep poverty in one generation.
Not just in China, but all around the world, in countries they do business in.

>>509181261
see
>>509181307

>>509181204
I looked it up and apparently Foxxcon in Taiwan own the factory who are a publicly traded company founded by a guy called Terry Gou who remains its largest shareholder. No mention of CCP anywhere.

>>509181261
People in communist countries, even during shortages, probably had better nutrition than the average mutt today.

>>509179432 (OP)
China is in their National Socialism phase
>Well it's ackshully State Capitalism
lol so not communism then? wow.

>>509181118
No, as in Chinese government has the full control of factories, even the foreign ones have to agree to some contracts that are impossible in the West.
It's done professionally though, the goal isn't to fuck things up but to ensure Chinese interests aren't betrayed

>>509179432 (OP)
Communism does not work because of the lack of a pricing signal. How are you going to determine what everything should be priced at without a market and price discovery?

>>509181512
see
>>509181344
You are wrong.

>>509181147
>>No billionaires
Wrong tho

>>509179432 (OP)
What the fuck is Communist about China? Their people live in closet sized spaces and work in sweat shops.

>>509181307
Nazi Germany helped its people too before the "Allies" put an end to it
Fascism is nice isn't it?
I mean, if it makes you feel better to call it communism then go ahead? just don't get into a huff when people recognize it as what it really is (fascism)

>>509181575
Basically just red flags, tanks and hating freedom. Everything else seems to be about the same as everywhere else.

>>509181546
I wasnt talking about china

>>509179432 (OP)
china is fascism, retard. why do you think it's communist?

>>509179432 (OP)
Because it cannot generate prices and so it cannot allocate resources.

It’s that simple, communism will never work, if you are pointing at something that works it’s not communism or it’s aping capitalism like a retard.

>>509179432 (OP)
Of course it works, it’s just Chinese fascism, and fascism works.

>>509181302
Show me the Jews in control of China.
Start with CIPAC donations to Xi.
Trump got 230 M from AIPAC

Communism will only work when colonising a new planet from scratch

>>509179432 (OP)
The Chinese system isn't Communist though.

>>509181369
You don’t sound like you’re sure about that one buddy.

>>509181540
>In Taiwan
You are retarded

>>509181684
because China is smart enough to use the word "communism" because it has a good connotation with western useful idiots whereas fascism is still a scary word in the west
its just branding and some retards fall for it

>>509180151
>their entire political establishment have pledged to uphold Marx
On all levels but economically they uphold Marx.

>>509181796
Did you just not recognise Taiwan as Chinese? The bugs will get you for that one.

>>509181221
The whites developed it for them and deindustrialized themselves and fucked over their own capacity in the process out of sheer goodwill? When did Caucasoids become so altruistic

>>509179432 (OP)
>>"Communism doesn't work because
Of shitty spineless corrupt leadershit
Just like everything else.

>>509181690
>"Communism doesn't work because it...it- it just doesn't okay!!1!1!"

>>509181854
>I looked up this TAIWANESE company, it doesn't say CCP owns it
You are retarded

>>509181959
That's the iphone factory you said was owned by the Chinese government i.e the CCP.

>ITT: coping mutts who grew up their whole lives inhaling the farts of their oligarchs like good goys coping with being btfo'd by the superiority of Marxism-Leninism

It doesn't have to be this way Ameribros. Shed your programming. Orient yourselves toward the future. You can take your country back.
https://acp.us/program

>>509182034
>That's the iphone factory you said was owned by the Chinese government
In other words,
>you asked if CCP owns some company that's not even in China
>But you didn't say it's not in China
>I presumed you are not retarded so you're talking about a factory in China
>Turns out I was wrong - you are retarded and an imbecile

>>509181220
“Fascism” and third positions are just derivatives of Marxism but you don’t read so no use talking about this. Go back to watching your eceleb slop.

>>509181575
Do you guys just ignore the fact they have a vanguard party that nationalized key industries and is following the Lenin transition plan to a tea?

>>509181846
>all but economically
When you’re retarded and don’t know anything about how China works then yeah I can see how you get that.

All Marxist ideologies are inherently Jewish in nature. Fuck Judeo-Bolshevism and all it's subhuman shills.

Fuck off.

>>509182966
Just say you’re retarded and watch Fox News all day. Faster that way.

>>509179720
What about jism? Asking for OP

>>509182593
ok so you agree that china is fascism
great, I accept your concession

>>509183324
You don’t even know what fascism is

>>509183100
Communal living is for faggots who need collectivism to survive. Enjoy that, faggot

1000 billionaires

>>509183100
lel

why is this the kike go-to "gotcha"

>school a kike about how jews admit to sacrificing their children to the demons they worship in the bible
>repeatedly
>says to me "you must have seen that on fox news"

the absolute state of canaanites

Communism is when the state owns portions of the economy and gives the rest to the People's Billionaires. The Bourgeois and Proletarian must be forced to get along through the strong arm of LO STATO.

Lunga vita a Xi Jinping! Lunga vita alla nostra grande nazione! Lunga vita al socialismo corporativo!

>>509179432 (OP)
They're national socialist and only commie in name.

>>509179432 (OP)
>LED a gigantic banana and hammer on a building

>>509183505
>Another one raped to brain death by hyper-liberalism
Bleak

It really doesn't which is why they had to give up communism in the 90s and adopt some combination of capitalism and socialism with "nationalist" characteristics.

>>509180354
Ywnbaw.

>>509184750
Anon, read the thread. We've addressed "captalism is when markets" already.

Meltdown threads are my favorite

>>509179432 (OP)
Chinese are now Fascists, private ownership allowed as long as it serves the state, without the micromanaging autism of NatSoc.

"Communism" is impossible, since the state doesn't magically wither away to an anarchist utopia after given all power and authority.

Also not Socialist, since no dictatorship of the proletariat.

Xi has the mandate of heaven for now, especially if he puts the whores in their place.

>>509187597
>no dictatorship of the proletariat.

>>509187597
>>509188771
Image didn't attach for some retarded reason: