I'm a Jew and I can at least feel some begrudging respect for neo-Nazis who openly admit the Holocaust happened and was a good thing. But the ones who claim it was all made-up, or who even claim it was exaggerated, are so low-IQ and/or dishonest that it's embarrassing.

One reason it's so stupid is that if you took every disbeliever and somehow persuaded them it was all true, not a single one would go "oh, it was a mistake for me to adhere to National Socialism, I believed the claims were all lies because it's not good to murder millions of civilians solely due to their heritage and surely the Nazis weren't so evil and the accusations must be enemy propaganda". No, they would of course just say it was good.

But then why deny it in the first place?

"I know it's real but I falsely claim otherwise in public because it's effective propaganda" at least provides an explanation beyond mental retardation, but if that's what you're doing, is that behavior not more malevolent and manipulative than anything Jews as a group or even as individuals have ever been accused of? Do you even think that way about many anti-Jewish accusations; saying the accusations are real while knowing they're not? Where does the honest belief come in?

There are many different categories of evidence proving the intent and near-successful attempt to kill all the Jews in Europe, but the simplest is the recording of the Posen speeches: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

>"I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're doing it, hah, a small matter.'"

Your only options are to say the recordings are an impersonator or that at the very least, the SS wanted to perpetrate the Holocaust and believed they had successfully perpetrated most of it.

>"The Jewish question has been solved within Germany itself and in general within the countries occupied by Germany. [...] You can understand how difficult it was for me to carry out this military order which I was given and which I implemented out of a sense of obedience and absolute conviction. If you say: 'we can understand as far as the men are concerned but not about the children', then I must remind you of what I said at the beginning. [...] In my view, we as Germans, however deeply we may feel in our hearts, are not entitled to allow a generation of avengers filled with hatred to grow up with whom our children and grandchildren will have to deal because we, too weak and cowardly, left it to them."

>"I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men – in other words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult which we had ever had. [...] I felt obliged to you, as the most superior dignitary, as the most superior dignitary of the party, this political order, this political instrument of the Führer, to also speak about this question quite openly and to say how it has been. The Jewish question in the countries that we occupy will be solved by the end of this year. Only remainders of odd Jews that managed to find hiding places will be left over."

>"Another question which was decisive for the inner security of the Reich and Europe, was the Jewish question. It was uncompromisingly solved after orders and rational recognition. I believe, gentlemen, that you know me well enough to know that I am not a bloodthirsty person; I am not a man who takes pleasure or joy when something rough must be done. However on the other hand, I have such good nerves and such a developed sense of duty – I can say that much for myself – that when I recognise something as necessary I can implement it without compromise. I have not considered myself entitled – this concerns especially the Jewish women and children – to allow the children to grow into the avengers who will then murder our children and our grandchildren. That would have been cowardly. Consequently the question was uncompromisingly resolved."

>"It was the most terrible task and the most terrible order which could have been given to an organisation: the order to solve the Jewish question. In this circle, I may say it frankly with a few sentences. It is good that we had the severity to exterminate the Jews in our domain."

>>509189470 (OP)
Im not reading alll that but i will call you a faggot. And of coursae your bitch
Faggot ass reads this

Zero evidence whatsoever for it. It's a pack of lies ontop of more Jew lies
It should've happened because you deserve it

Goebbels:

>"As always in the circles of the party, it is the duty of the Führer's closest friends to gather around him in such times of need [...] Above all with the Jewish question, we are so fixed on it that there is no longer any escape. And that's good. A movement and a people that have broken the bridges behind them fight from experience much more unreservedly than those that still have the possibility to retreat."

>In an entry dated 9 October 1943, Goebbels commented on Himmler's second speech, at which he was present:

>"Regarding the Jewish question, he [Himmler] gives a very unadorned and frank picture. He is of the conviction that the Jewish question can be solved by the end of this year. He advocates the most radical and most severe solution, namely to exterminate Jewry, bag and baggage. Of course, if brutal, this is a consistent solution. Because we must take on the responsibility of entirely solving this question in our time. Subsequent generations will doubtlessly no longer dare address this problem with the courage and obsession as we are able to do today."

>>509189470 (OP)
The biggest problem for me is treblinka, they supposedly cremated like 700k-1.1 million people with open pyres?
lmao

>>509189621
>Zero evidence whatsoever for it. It's a pack of lies ontop of more Jew lies
>It should've happened because you deserve it
But let's say it did happen and the Jews weren't lying about it. Would it still have been deserved? (I assume you have eaten breakfast this morning.)

Because there is zero paper trail. We're talking about Germans, a people known for their autistic bureaucracy. The only supposed evidence comes from Stalinist Russia, a people known for their lies

>>509189688
What are your thoughts on Himmler's speeches?

>>509189470 (OP)
It didn’t happen but if they did they deserved it

>>509189749
But It didn't happen so your premise is retarded

>>509189688
The claims are outrageous for the amount of evidence presented

>>509189765
Why would they retain written orders to kill every Jew? They weren't braindead. There are several other highly detested orders with no records found, for obvious reasons, and no one disputes those orders.

There are documents, but they naturally use coded or abbreviated language.

As I'm sure you're aware, there was a meeting with written meeting minutes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference

Eichmann later fully admitted the meeting was to plan logistics for the extermination of the Jews, and this was obvious without his admission.

But I'm not here to debate 1000 different points. Do you believe the Posen speeches are actually a recording of Himmler's voice? If no, why?

>>509189470 (OP)
STFU SHLOMO filthy mouth rodent kike.
putlocker.digital download & watch
EUROPA THE LAST BATTLE.
Hey kike pedophile schmeckle slicing sucking schvartze. kys kike. No 1 likes you... you're pushy putrid repulsive gaslighting apartheid talmudic shekel seeking terrorist.
.
.seriously stfu kike . All you do is lie

>>509189869
As I said, I'm aware you ate breakfast this morning. Is your cognitive ability too deficient to answer my question?

>>509190075
kike kys you putrid apartheid gaslighting pos. NO 1 BELIEVES ANYTHING YOU SAY RAT KIKE.
https://youtu.be/xu8u9ZbCJgQ?si=_K5v8nMoiNhxqWbE

>>509190080
I don't support apartheid. But don't you support apartheid? If you do, why are you using it as an insult?

>>509189767
>let's record this highly incriminating speech that will be discovered some time in the 1970s
ofc kike

>>509190129
As I said nobody believes in your holohoax fairytale anymore kike.
Why did you flee from Israel?

>>509190129
kys kike.
No 1 cares what you think. say, hear.
You're filthy rodent apartheid liars.
YOU LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING KIKE.
you're wasting your time... rabbinical Talmudic pedophile terrorists schmeckle slashing sucking parasites... You're filthy mouth gaslighting Zionist Genocidaires..
Die KIKE Die kike Kys kike

>>509189992
>The claims are outrageous for the amount of evidence presented
Cremating hundreds of thousands of corpses given an arbitrary amount of land within about a year is not difficult to believe at all. But let's assume it didn't happen. What are your thoughts on the Posen speeches?

>>509189470 (OP)
If your people can deny me a safe homeland free of foreign people that endanger the safety of mine, then I can deny you your propaganda to whip my people to submit to your machinations.

>>509189470 (OP)
The holocause happened but I understand why some people think it was fake. The proof is so sketchy.

>>509190418
*holocaust

>>509190418
It didn't happen, but it should have

tl;dr
it didn't happen
it should have happened
it's going to happen for real
jews mutilate children

>>509190129
You're worthless useless liars.
YOU ARE VERMIN KIKE.
KYS KIKE FILTHY PUTRID JEW PIECE OF SHIT
DIE KIKE DIE KIKE DIE KIKE
worthless gaslighting Zionist Genocidaires... you're like shit on the ground...you're like puke in the dirt.
You're are filthy nonstop liars

Why are you so concerned about an event that may or may not have happened 80 years ago, rather than the present day Holocaust?

>>509190401
Putrid kike ...
you're worthless you're to be ridiculed and giggled at... no value... shit on the ground

>>509190279
There aren't too many people denying that it's Himmler's voice in the recordings.

https://youtu.be/D7XqaesNrlg

Goebbels and others mentioned the speeches in their writing shortly after the speeches occurred, and mentioned Himmler's comments about the Jewish extermination.

Here's a /pol/ thread from last year where it seems not many posters are doubtful about the authenticity of the recording and translation: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/453857957/

Sure, if this is an impersonator and if the diary entries from others are all fake, that would strongly suggest the evidence for the Holocaust in general is based on lies or at least that many people have fallen for hoaxes. But if the recording is real, what would that entail?

The article again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

It's fair to say the truth of the Holocaust hinges on these speeches. If the recording is of Himmler, the Holocaust definitely happened. If it's of someone else, it didn't happen as said or at all. Are you not curious to dig into this and determine if they're real or not?

>>509189470 (OP)
Didn't happen

Should've

>>509190401
KIKE GO TO THE KNESSET WITH LIKKUD CULT PEDOPHILES & HAVE AN EPIC SYNAGOGUE CIRCLE JERK. PEDOPHILE..
YOU'RE PEDOPHILES KIKE APARTHEID PEDOPHILES...NO 1 LIKES YOU LYING KIKE POS...
you're a worthless lying kike rat.
DIE KIKE DIE KIKE DIE KIKE LIAR

https://youtu.be/xu8u9ZbCJgQ?si=_K5v8nMoiNhxqWbE

>>509190418
>The holocause happened but I understand why some people think it was fake. The proof is so sketchy.
Strong disagree. The evidence is overwhelming. There are many different forms of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_and_documentation_for_the_Holocaust

Denial only makes sense if there was a vast plot involving tens of thousands of people faking all of the evidence and making guards and victims and officers lie, with no leaks about the plot or defectors exposing what they were asked to do.

>>509189470 (OP)
>I'm a Jew
stopped reading right there

>>509190755
I will ask again: do you not support apartheid? Like, very strongly support it? If you do, why are you using it as an insult?

Answer me. You keep dodging.

>>509190749
>Didn't happen
>Should've
If it had happened, should it have?

I wish it happened.

>>509189470 (OP)
Never try to compromise with goyim anon, it's like trying to convince a pigeon not to shit on your car with words and logic. Most of them are evil at their core, driven by petty jealousy and resentment. Not saying you shouldn't have gentile friends, it's just that those few of them who aren't as retarded as the majority of their ilk will reveal themselves through their own actions. Your input is unnecessary.

>>509190881
If it had happened, should it have? (I will assume you indeed ate breakfast this morning.)

>>509190401
worthless gaslighting GENOCIDAIRES.
EVERYBODY KNOW KIKE LIAR.
YOU'RE LOST.
THIS IS /pol WE KNOW YOU SHYLOCK Shakespeare warned us 100s of years ago Shlomo SCHMECKLE slicing and sucking pedophiles... GO AWAY SCHVARTZE...
GO PLAY YOUR KIKE GAMES ELSEWHERE SCHVARTZE FUCK OFF PEDOPHILE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE GASLIGHT-LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE
apartheid gaslighting Zionist Genocidaires

>>509190945
It was like an incomplete round of antibiotics.
>>509190928
And as soon as your people plant your roots you behave just like the goyim you so despise.

>>509190667
>Goebbels and others mentioned the speeches in their writing shortl
the speeches also make mention of hitler's infamous reichstag speech about the extermination of the jewish menace which was public knowledge. it's simply a way to give these speeches fake legitimacy and a weak cross reference at best.

>>509190928
You are almost as retarded as the 80 IQ far-rightists in this thread and in fact are probably basically exactly them with a few bits flipped and a few IQ points tacked on.

>>509190928
>yes everyone that isn't in a xenophobic child cutting cult, they're the evil ones

>>509189470 (OP)
It was made up, they were moving you disgusting leaches out of their country, we bombed the rails/roads in causing issues like typhoid, and starvation.

Oops, our bad. We have more than paid for it by giving you israel. You took that attempt at payback and have stretched it into us paying you forever. I would come over there and NUKE the fuck out of your entire country before I paid you a single dime you disgusting cretin.

>>509189470 (OP)
> begrudging respect for neo-Nazis who openly admit the Holocaust
If there’s one thing neo-nazis want it it’s your respect and approval

It's obviously fake.
There endless evidence that it never happened, that the gas chambers were a retcon, and that they were work camps where people starved because of supply line disruption.
Even after 60 years of jews working 24/7/365 to make it real, it's just completely illogical - why would they waste all that time making camps and gassing people when they could just shoot them? It's retarded.
Anyone who's spent time around jews knows it's exactly the type of depraved and insane thing that their imaginations spawn constantly - it's from the same type of jewish ideation that comes up with horror movies and pornography. Right down to the lampshades, soap, and masturbation machines. It's the most jewish tale imaginable.

>>509189621
It's worse than 0 there's like anti-evidence for it. Basically every claim they've made about it since the 1890s has been an exaggeration, fabrication or a lie. They just kept throwing things to a wall until it finally stuck, which took a generation who wasn't even born when it happened and was just taught it in shcool. The holocaust has officially expired too because even if you were to grant them every premise, anything and everything. Believe all they say to the final degree it doesn't matter because NO ONE EVEN CARES. Kids literally think it was funny if they even care or know what it is at all.

The grift is over and soon the last boomer alive who gives a shit will be dead.

>>509189470 (OP)
I used to deny the holocaust because it gets in the way of any critical analysis of national socialist socio-economic theory and the merits or demerits of adolph Hitler as a political figure.
Any objective analysis of modern market capitalist systems will see uncanny parallels with the fascist systems of early and mid century Europe, so clearly there were some aspects of the system that the west found fit to adopt.
However, I have since come to see fascism and it's derivative ideologies like national socialism for the collectivist folly that they are.
They are fruit of the same poisonous moral tree as communism and all it's derivatives.
So I no longer really care if the holocaust clouds serious discussion of fascist economic theory.
I now simply deny the holocaust for the fun of it.

>>509189470 (OP)
They literally can't answer this question, not even kidding. Their hero shitler didn't kill a single kike as he waged war all across Europe killing tens of millions of Europeans and they sperg out when you point out that out and never answer
People here are sub90IQ, trailer trash vermin, chink shills, jeet spammers, glowniggers, spic biomass, mudslime filth and other vermin unworthy of life

>>509189749
>the Jews weren't lying
There's you're problem

>>509191020
Those who kept their blood lines pure do not. Those who have mingled with goy shiksas produce semi retarded halfbreeds.

the entire planet cheering ...
Retarded kike. Go play with your shekels shlomo.
Your case history is a dismal disaster of expulsions & rejection...NO 1 LIKES YOU KIKE

>>509189470 (OP)
>But then why deny it in the first place?
Because it didn't happen, you dumb kike, and the sheer scale of the legally unquestionable blood libel is an indelible indictment of the jewish character. We wish it did happen, because if we did have holocaust then we wouldn't be subjected to your pilpul and anti-White insanity every day of our lives.

>>509190292
How would if you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning

>>509189470 (OP)
>Why deny the Holocaust?
Because it didn't happen the way you claim it happened, which means for all intents and purposes it didn't happen at all.

.........

>>509189470 (OP)
>I'm a jew
Stopped reading right there kek

,, , ,

rabbinical Talmudic pedophile terrorist child mutilating murdering death cult.

,,, ,, .

>>509189749
I'm surprised this wasn't posted

>>509189470 (OP)
The Holocaust didn’t happen, if it was real then you’d all get a fucking bullet to the back of the head and then be buried in mass graves.

If the Nazis wanted to kill you in any other way, they’d just make the train cars air tight and suffocate you all on your ride to a concentration camp, which wouldn’t have a furnace but a wood chipper that feeds into a pipe that flushes your chopped up remains 2 miles out into the sea in a pipe as fish food.

You Jews made such a fake story that it’s a fucking insult to make us believe it, and now that the masses have woken up, you’ll get a real fucking Holocaust and the numbers will add up.

oh shlomo mein pedophile schmeckle slicing schvartze... where are you??

>>509191020
>It was like an incomplete round of antibiotics.
So in this scenario the Holocaust had happened and the Jews hadn't lied about it. Why did they deserve the Holocaust? What is your evidence to refute the fact that the overwhelming majority of German Jews were patriotic Germans, disproportionately served Germany during WWI (which was covered up by the government to prevent the Jews from being seen as patriotic), largely served on the frontlines, and most basically shared the feeling of every other German in their love for their country and desire to see it succeed? A pretty small percentage of Jews even ever voted for the German communist party.

>>509191391
So Hitler didn't kill any kikes as he waged a war which killed 30-40 million Europeans and made nationalism and racism taboo, right?

>>509189470 (OP)
Stay the course brother

Holocaust deniers are easy as fuck to troll

>>509189470 (OP)
Because its all.lies you used to steal land from palestine. You used germans for your zionist war then threw them to the dogs to save your skin.

die kike liars.
NO 1 LIKESYPU

>>509189470 (OP)

>>509191034
It's all Jewish projection, every fucked up thing they've pushed has just been them looking into a mirror that reveals their core nature. And because their core nature is so fucked up, they believe everyone else is as fucked up as they are and the only solution is to just kill us all. It's why even cannibal nigger tribes in Africa can't hold a candle to their universally despised reputation from every culture and every point in history over all available records.

Cannibal niggers in africa have better global relations than these fucking things. There's nothing else to say about it really

>>509191144
I agree with you that collectivist ideologies are terrible whether it's communism or fascism. But it's a little telling that (and correct me if I'm wrong) your belief in the Holocaust seems to have mostly been determined by what faction you identified with rather than the facts or lack thereof.

>>509189470 (OP)
We deny it because the subject is boring and only relevant to the interests of jews.

>>509191443
I didn’t say no Jews died you faggot, the Red Cross reported the real number:

271,000

The real Holocaust was all the Polish people who died.

>>509189470 (OP)
>is that behavior not more malevolent and manipulative than anything Jews as a group or even as individuals have ever been accused of?
No, you lie constantly about your genocide of whites.

>>509189868

Holy shit there are some sad evil people on the earth- all the posters in this thread except for OP are simply eeeevvill.
Hurt people hurt people....I guess you have horrible lives.

>>509191502
FYI not sure if you know but you're replying to me (OP), there

>>509191533
So Hitler's war ended up in the deaths of 270K kikes and 30-40 million Europeans, right?

>>509189688
And without deforesting the land for miles around too. But I thought it was Dachau with the big open air grills? Anyway, if true it would be a much bigger miracle than one day of oil lasting eight days for Hanukkah.

>>509189470 (OP)
After Gaza who gives a fuck about beating that dead horse?

>>509191561
would you care for a bagel shlomo?
Come on schvartze... They're everything..kikes want Everything... its in the Talmud...
toasted Shlomo?

>>509189470 (OP)
The what?

The Holocaust-o desu didn’t even happen desu yo! But like, get ready desu, ‘cause it’s totally gonna be for real now desu!

>>509191533
Please read https://arolsen-archives.org/en/news/fact-check-this-document-does-not-relativize-the-holocaust/

That number is the official record of Jews who died in concentration camps as maintained by the concentration camps themselves. It excludes extermination camps and it doesn't take a genius to suspect their records may not have been fully honest.

It is plausible that the 270k number might mean that somewhere around 270k of 6 million died of disease or starvation (as they'd feel more comfortable recording such deaths), but 1) obviously they caused those conditions, 2) in many cases the starvation may have been deliberate, and 3) that still leaves many millions who were most likely deliberately murdered with bullets or poison.

>>509191561
..... awww da poor poor poor jew jews are getting their apartheid lies & gaslighting shoved back in their poor poor pedophile jew jew faces...
ROFLMFAO....
So I'm just going to.go ahead & toast that bagel Schvartze

>>509191688
That's the funny part. It sounds so ridiculous, like such obvious wartime propaganda to demonize an enemy. The fact that it's actually true is what makes it such an interesting historical event.

>>509191561
fuck off newfag
we had countless threads where all the "evidence" was presented
all the holohoax shills ran away eventually
this is the final verdict from anyone who has engaged with this subject
>>509190470

>>509191561
It’s all about feeling special, like you were part of the “in group” that knew about it before it came out. Same with 9/11 truthers. Only in this case it’s one of the most documented cases in human history that happened during the most world changing course of a Second World War.

The facts, the texts, the numbers, the confirmations by scholars and official reports, none of these are of interest to the conspiracy theorist. They seek out alternate histories that expose their desire to be “on the cutting edge” of something when it blows up.

Of course, again, it’s one of the most documented cases in all of human history for just about anything. The fact part is done. The only other option for people who don’t want to feel left out is to seek lies in hopes the excitement will lead you to some grand understanding.

>>509191701
....

>>509191788
I don't think you ever answered me. Are you saying you love racial unity and multiculturalism? You do not support apartheid?

ridicule the kikes
They're apartheid gaslighting liars
ridicule the kikes
They're apartheid gaslighting liars
ridicule the kikes
They're apartheid gaslighting liars

>>509191920
Apartheid is based though

>Why deny the Holocaust?
why lie about it happening in the first place?
i wish it did but none of your jewish bullshit adds up

>>509191874
go eat a bagel gaslighting kike filthy putrid repulsive rodent.
You're lying vermin kike

>>509189621
So while millions of Germans starved to death in Stalingrad, Anne Frank and Elie Wiesel got to ride ferris wheels at Auschwitz?

>>509191818
I’m sure it’s all there with the “evidence” the moon landing was faked and the earth is flat

>>509191809
It's not. Get a grip.

>>509191818
Did you at least open https://youtu.be/D7XqaesNrlg for a listen, anon?

>>509191023
>Goebbels and others mentioned the speeches in their writing shortl
>the speeches also make mention of hitler's infamous reichstag speech about the extermination of the jewish menace which was public knowledge. it's simply a way to give these speeches fake legitimacy and a weak cross reference at best.
I don't think this point makes any sense. Like I get the broader point of "if you wanted to fake evidence you'd want to fake even more evidence referencing the fake evidence so that the fake is more convincing", but this can be used to argue that more evidence is never compelling for anything ever, and I don't understand the Reichstag speech connection.

>Anons carpetbomb the holohoax, thread 9457.
We have become exceedingly efficient at it.

>>509192009
Do you support apartheid or do you not?

>>509191959
putrid lying kikes... you're filthy lying vermin... gaslighting Zionist Genocidaires

>>509189470 (OP)
fuck off kike how come there's so many left, just doesn't make sense

>>509192014
The most basic principles of “Let’s try to keep these people docile any way we can so we can kill them” is a true practice. They killed people in the same camps where the had movie theaters. How would that not be the reasoning?

>>509192070
Anon, all I said is that I was Jewish. You literally support apartheid while I don't. What the fuck are we doing here, my man.

>>509192103
2/3 of European Jews were killed. The global Jewish population today is still lower than it was before WWII.

>>509192062
do you want a toasted bagel with sliced seared schmeckle skin?
shlomi my schvartze... how do you like your bagel?

>>509189470 (OP)
The number of JEWS dead in WW2 was all a LIE...

Plus your JEW DEATHS was funded by your own JEWS to make some GREEDY JEWS even RICHER...SO fuck you JEW BOY CUNT..

>>509189470 (OP)
>>509189484
>>509189514
>>509189574
>>509189681
>yes we lied about first world war atrocity propaganda like the Kaiser's corpse factories and bayonetting Belgian babies
>we also lied about the Holocaust with fake execution methods like electric floor chambers, flying knife chambers, eagle+bear cages, the exact number of death camps
>or the jewskin lampshades and shrunken heads or the laws of physics regarding body disposal of which we've covered up the alleged mass graves with ground scan disrupting rocks and won't allow you to investigate without rabbinic approval
>yes we did those both at the actual Nuremberg trial and in post war farcical profiteering through faked memoirs by people who weren't even necessarily in Europe at the time whose excuse is that it was real in their minds
>we also lied about Iraqi WMDs and the USS Liberty and our nuclear program and murdered JFK for trying to stop us from becoming a rogue nuclear state and maybe did 9/11 as a purebred false flag attack
>also a plurality if not a majority of the Japanese literally don't accept any of our parallel bullshit atrocity propaganda with works like The Nanking Hoax calling it propaganda lies are regarded as respectable historical works from a revisionist perspective
>but we DID NOT lie about the gas chambers or the extermination plans with zero primary documentation or those alleged transcripts and recordings of Himmler that were repeatedly denied by witnesses as the judge forced them to reword their statements before declaring their final still negative answers as being in the affirmative, those are all real
you sure about that one kikebro?

>>509189749
Let's take what you're proposing to its most extreme end.
I know I'm not the anon you replied to but he seems like an idiot and you seem intelligent so I'll play instead.
Let's say even the most extreme stories of the holocaust narrative are true, everything from torture chambers to soap made from human fat and jew skin lampshades.
Im not sure "justified" is the right word to use.
I have to try to put myself in the mind of people who would do that and the only way I can get there is to imagine a people that's intensely desperate and clinging to survival by a thread.
To use human remains to produce mass marketed consumer good is simply unheard of anywhere else in history, let alone modern history.
The wartime shortages would have to have been inconceivable for even the concept to seem like a good idea.
We're talking about a society that must have been truly traumatized on a collective level, unlike any other place or time in history.
If such a thing is true it might go a long way to explain and lend credence to the stories of elaborate torture that arise as part of the narrative.
Traumatized people often cope with their trauma by inflicting it on others.
We see this play out in a lot of warcrimes actually.

Now, I wouldn't go so far as to say any of this would "justify" the holocaust. Rather, I would say that it might make it understandable. Where the issue comes in however, is that when considering entire civilizations a different standard for morality comes into play.
The way for how groups of people interact collectively is different from how people interact individually.
On an individual level we know it is wrong for individuals to kill each, but societies kill individuals and indeed other societies all the time when it is in their best interest.
The Torah itself is full of stories of the ancient Hebrews doing exactly this.
So the question really becomes whether or not the existence of Judaism was compatible with nazi German society.

>>509192054
>Easily verified by any online search
>But if we say vermin enough times it makes it fake

Haha

>>509192139
kike all I'm asking is do you want seared sliced( rabbi sucked) schmeckle skins on your bagel...
Shlomo... its really quite a simple question...

>>509189681
>Subsequent generations will doubtlessly no longer dare address this problem with the courage and obsession as we are able to do today

Prophetic.

>>509192204
>the only way I can get there is to imagine a people that's intensely desperate and clinging to survival by a thread

Oh I can solve that one for you. Meth. Shiploads of meth. Meth as far as the eye can see. In chocolate, in tins; meth. Also cross dressing.

Oh SHLOMOS.... HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR BAGELS...?
the chutzpah...you get them hecking everything bagels...They show 0 appreciation...

>>509189470 (OP)
Ernst Zundel said it didn't happen and i believe him.

>>509189868
/thread

>>509192213
> muh online search
hmm that's weird, why would jews invest so much time and money controlling what people are allowed to say and read on the internet?

i try my best and this is the thanks I get... this thread, Worst than Auschwitz...

>>509192040
Did you actually listen to the three hour speech? Give the exact timestamp. All I’ve been hearing so far is a summary of the war, the partisan situation, and the failures of the Italians.

>>509192177
Thoughts on the Posen speeches?

Yes wartime propaganda is common. Soap from Jews was a hoax. The lampshade one was long believed to be a hoax but a few years ago there seems to be proof the Buchenwald commandant did own a lampshade which was confirmed as human skin, though there's only evidence for one lampshade and it's not known if it was a Jew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampshades_made_from_human_skin

I don't think anyone with a brain respects revisionism about the Nanking massacre

Yes countries have lied when wars have been involved, on many occasions

None of that means any particular wartime atrocity is false. I could construct a version of what you wrote to cast doubt on Israel committing atrocities in Gaza (and I bet a million right-wing retards would gobble it right up)

Your last point is the only one of relevance here and is utter bullshit. Cite exactly what you're referring to, including a transcript. Who denied what and when?

i feel like... you don't care Shlomo...
I'm tired of being 'that anon'...
the way I'm treated... worse than Auschwitz...

>>509192177
What would be really gruesome is that if those were myths told to Jews about other camps to keep them in line so they came home and told stories that they heard and then 75 years later a homosexual on 4chan used the confusion and chaos of the mass extermination as evidence that it didn’t happen

Just saying. It would be like you’re fucking them over twice. Wouldn’t it suck if that was exactly what you were doing?

>G-good fuck k-kikes

Haha, Jesus Christ.

>>509189470 (OP)
The JEWS use the WW2 as an excuse to shut people down but no one gives a FUCK about JEWS anymore, except CORRUPT LEADERS...

The JEWS got good spy gear that spies on the masses...

So go and tell the RAT ROYALS this you fucking JEW BOY CUNTS, soon we remove rats like you PEDO CUNTS...JEW PEDO BASTARDS,,

DEATH DEATH TO THE IDF, DEATH DEATH TO THE IDF...SING IT BABY, DEATH DEATH TO THE IDF, very catchy...

what would Norman say...

>>509191764
Then there would be more evidence of bodies and ash remains if they went into the toaster.

There wouldn’t be a need to reconstruct the camp, including the fake as fuck chambers.

270,000 Jews died, but it wasn’t 6,000,000, which the Jews have been crying about since the 19th century.

Plus, your own Jew tallies state clearly 15,000,000 Jews across the board. If 2/5 of you died (6,000,000/15,000,000), you’d all notice that pretty fast.

In other words, shut the fuck up.

The truth doesn’t need to be censored or made illegal to question.

The holohoax does.

At most 500k Jews died during WW2, most to typhus in internment camps after allies bombed supply lines towards end of war. Israel just intentionally killed 500k Palestinain civilians in their native lands - Jews were intruding on European homeland and attempting communist revolution like Russia, which killed 50 million Christians …

Holocaust isn’t even top 50 worst genocides in human history, stop whining like a little bitch. Holodomor and Gaza genocide we’re both worse

>>509189470 (OP)
How about the holohoax didn't happen because it didn't happen and it has nothing to do with loving Hitler or anything? It's a made up 'genocide'

>>509192488
Only a tiny portion of the speech mentions the Jews at all. It was basically a passing remark, because the topic was about the war in general and the extermination of the Jews had already been going on for a while, so it wasn't really important to discuss there.

I can't find the timestamp for that video but a clip is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Himmler_Posen_Speech_-_Extermination_of_the_Jews_excerpt,_Oct_4,_1943.ogg

>>509192631
Missin’ a few teef there Henry? One must’ve fallen on the caps lock.

oh SCHVARTZES... OH RABBIS... WHERE ARE YOU...?
Anons 1933. Why did kikes declare war on Germany 6 years before it broke out?
Anons kikes are gaslighting Zionist Genocidaires apartheid CUNT LIARS

>>509192595
I care about you accusing me of supporting apartheid when you yourself support apartheid! You are literally far-right. Explain how this is an insult.

Are you in fact not actually far-right and do endorse racial harmony? Was I mistaken about your political views?

>>509192826
Oh shlomo mein Schvartze...

I'm not reading a bunch of jew nonsense

TOTAL KIKE DEATH

>>509191511
This may sound strange, but I dont believe the structuring of political systems should be based on subjective emotional experience.
Therefore, when discussing the most effective form of political systems to organize human society and ensure the continuance of our species into the future, I dont think the validity of the holocaust matters that much.
Personally, if I had been in charge of fascist Germany I would not have ordered the holocaust, purely because it strikes me as an illogical waste of resources.
I said in my previous post that a different morality applies to groups of people than to individuals.
As individuals we must live our lives according to our personal morals.
However, societies do not have that luxury.
Societies must act in such a way so as to ensure their growth and the preservation of their culture, otherwise they die.
Therefore, individuals making decisions that affect the fates of civilizations are often faced with the impossible challenge of doing what they consider morally right on an individual basis, or what they know must be done for the good of their society.
This happens every day and nobody blinks an eye.
Incidentally, I support the genocide of the Palestinian people for this same reason.
So long as they exist the state of Israel will never be secure in its own borders.
Every society must take collective action in its own self interest, regardless of how immoral the actions may be on an individual level.

>>509192845
toasted kike... with seared schmeckle skins .. butter or plain Schvartze?
awwww da poor poor gaslighting kike
ROFLMFAO. here fishy fishy fishy...come here kike...

>>509192727
Do you tremble with rage and grief whenever you see the Wikipedia page?

>B-but the Jews own Wikipedia

Yes anon always the Jews

>>509192139
>2/3 of European Jews were killed. The global Jewish population today is still lower than it was before WWII
still way too high

>>509192845
Here fishy fishy fishy kike...

you conspired with israel against the USS liberty
lied for 100 years about the lusitania in a conspiracy with the UK
read it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_Factory
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/nov/12/secondworldwar.world

>>509191516
This honestly.
Most holocaust discussion devolve to mindless shit flinging.
Entertaining for a time, but pretty quickly my interest just turns to disgust.

>>509192727
Here’s another one.

270,000 we call all admit happened.

How much more from random massacres or whatever war time atrocities? I’d say 500,000 is too much, maybe 375,000 total.

>>509192699
It was noticed very quickly!

The problem with the corpse thing is they obviously got rid of all the evidence where they could. How about the evidence that exists? Such as Himmler's speeches in this thread stating they are exterminating all Jews, including men, women, and children? Do you have a reason to believe it is not Himmler speaking? If it were Himmler speaking, what would that mean?

I don't understand the reconstruction thing. If someone murdered millions, wouldn't they try to destroy or cover up the most obvious evidence?

The Holocaust is not illegal to question in the United States, which you and I live in and which you believe Jews on one hand control all events in and on the other hand have apparently failed to stop a single person from questioning the Holocaust in during the past 50 years.

>>509192955
Wikipedia ROFLMFAO...
DO YOU TREMBLE when the bagel isn't toasted Schvartze???

>>509189470 (OP)
AI generated post

>>509193077
Do you have a salt bagel

>>509192949
Still afraid to answer whether or not you believe apartheid is based and good?

>>509192213
The gas chamber lie was a propaganda tool created by a Major (The Right Honourable) Lord Charles Arthur Cavendish of the British Intelligence Service. He is quoted as saying, "We've had a good run with this gas chamber thing but we ought to downplay it now because, once it gets found out, it's over, for all of us. We can't tell lies like this and expect to survive the aftermath of having them found out."

Cavendish drank himself to death before the end of WW2. (or did he?)

la la la la la la la

>>509192748
He uses the word “ausrotten” to refer to the Jews, which means to “root out.” After the war, Jewish Americans bought up German dictionaries to change the meaning of “ausrotten” to mean extermination.

>>509189470 (OP)
How often do you hear people crying about the Soviet Union compared to how often you hear some Jew trying to foist some scheckle scheme by playing a sympathy game about something that didn't happen to them? It's probably just retards like yourself crying about it that makes people WANT to deny it ever happened, because it's funny that it makes you mad. Jews were never farmers, they were always cityfags, always have been. People from chad lineage smell the gayness that sticks to your people from never working the land. It smells like soft hands, pedophilia, degeneracy, karenocracy, and money.

>>509193073
all western camps got revised into non death camps, soviet union is the only first hand word that it happened

>>509193006
If the Holocaust killed only 2/3 of Jews in Europe and you're saying that wasn't enough, then why are you saying the Holocaust didn't happen? Or are you saying you don't believe it killed 2/3 of Jews in Europe?

>>509192955
>Wikipedia
Not a source, Jew.

>>509193148
There is no denial about anyone about the concentration and collection of the Jews, but this does not talk about it.

>>509193132
i fear the bagels will be overtoasted schvartze

>>509193148
could be either way, the german word "ausmerzen" is explicit

>>509193234
Of plain old "Vernichtet".

>>509193017
Yes, a lot of propaganda about Germany during WWI was false.

But why are you linking me Wikipedia? Why would Wikipedia be reliable to link me about the corpse factory, but then you wouldn't link me Wikipedia for the Holocaust?

Also, I am Jewish, not Israeli.

...

>>509193279
the british recycled it for WWII and invented the holocaust

OP is acting retarded on purpose

....

>>509193046
And what was the 1949 number?

>>509189470 (OP)
>why deny the holocaust
Because it didn't happen. Some people care more about the truth than anything else.

>>509193135
>>509193135
>The first gassings at Auschwitz took place on September 3, 1941, when around 850 inmates—Soviet prisoners of war and sick Polish inmates—were killed with Zyklon B in the basement of block 11 in Auschwitz I. The building proved unsuitable, so gassings were conducted instead in crematorium I, also in Auschwitz I, which operated until December 1942. There, more than 700 victims could be killed at once. Tens of thousands were killed in crematorium I. To keep the victims calm, they were told they were to undergo disinfection and de-lousing; they were ordered to undress outside, then were locked in the building and gassed.
>In early 1942, mass exterminations were moved to two provisional gas chambers (the "red house" and "white house", known as bunkers 1 and 2) in Auschwitz II, while the larger crematoria (II, III, IV, and V) were under construction. Bunker 2 was temporarily reactivated from May to November 1944, when large numbers of Hungarian Jews were gassed. In summer 1944 the combined capacity of the crematoria and outdoor incineration pits was 20,000 bodies per day. A planned sixth facility—crematorium VI—was never built.

I dunno man seems legit

>>509192054
almost too efficient, practically no one is bothering to engage OP as good faith, despite his posts not being total incoherent garbage
people just see the topic and argument pattern and skip right to the end like a joke they're tired of hearing over and over

>>509193117
> AI generated post
I wrote it myself and every post in this thread. Search by my ID. I don't have the GPT quirks.

>>509193349
We British done fuck all, it was the GERMAN UK ROYAL PEDO RATS who done it, so don't blame us BRITISH, no the UK ROYALS are imposters, they are GERMANS sent here to keep us BRITISH down, why need to get shut of them and fast,,PEDO ROYAL RATS..

>>509193424
the holocaust is a british WWI recycled anti german racist black propaganda operation

they tortured german POW systematic into false confessions to warcrimes

>>509193380
<3
offer shlomo a bagel...
these putrid pedophile kikes
& their incessant gaslighting...

>>509193479
what do you deny specific?

>>509189470 (OP)
I'm a holocaust denier and a zionist.
I think the holocaust didn't happen and that it was all a lie. But I support Israel's right to exist and I think they should be allowed to defend themselves. The logic is like this ; Jews were a protected class in WW2 and were shielded from the war. Hitler litterally named a Jew an honorary aryan and was probably a crypto jew himself. And the invasion of Israel territory was originally wrong. How-ever now that they're here for the last 70 fucking years they've obtained squatters rights and are essentially the de-facto legitimate title holder to the land. And now we get to see if they have the right stuff to keep that land. It requires military power, persuasion and many more things. I think it's possible Jews will be able to use a combination of diplomacy and military might to continue to hold the land. But yeah; I'm not even an anti-semite about it. What-ever they stole the land what's the big deal? America stole Hawaii we didn't even come up with a fancy lie. We just stole that shit and said it's ours now.

If I knew the truth and I still supported your people; but I wasn't guillable enough to fall for your bullshit would you still like me?

>>509189470 (OP)
The Gaza holocaust is 100% real

>>509189470 (OP)
>I'm a Jew
stopped reading there

\o

>>509193561
the witkoff massacre happened last week

>>509193073
> was noticed very quickly!

Yet all the world population mags, owned by Jews, ignored that 2/5 Jews died?

> The problem with the corpse thing is they obviously got rid of all the evidence where they could.

Oven math says no. And there wouldn’t still be ash remains. And why leave the shoes?

> How about the evidence that exists?

The shoes?

> Such as Himmler's speeches in this thread stating they are exterminating all Jews, including men, women, and children?

Deporting isn’t exterminating. You were placed in concentration camps die starting the 1919 communist revolution.

> Do you have a reason to believe it is not Himmler speaking?

No one questioned this. You ain’t even provide the speech.

> If it were Himmler speaking, what would that mean?

Again, irrelevant, you’re using fucking emotional manipulation also. Stick to the fucking facts.

> I don't understand the reconstruction thing. If someone murdered millions, wouldn't they try to destroy or cover up the most obvious evidence?

Then why did the save all the shoes? And wouldn’t they preserve evidence of destruction? Why the need to recreate everything, including detached chimneys?

> The Holocaust is not illegal to question in the United States, which you and I live in and which you believe Jews on one hand control all events in and on the other hand have apparently failed to stop a single person from questioning the Holocaust in during the past 50 years.

It’s illegal to question in Europe, and you know this, you sniveling fucking kike.

>>509193516
>If I knew the truth and I still supported your people; but I wasn't guillable enough to fall for your bullshit would you still like me?

No. Reading your terrible English gives me a headache.

IDF are KNESSET likkud kike goyim
..
Shlomo... stfu go get Fucked Up...
IDF suicide spike at an all time high...

>>509189470 (OP)
If kikes didn't lie so much maybe people would believe what they say? Just a thought.

>>509191764
The problem here is the designation of "extermination camp"
1) it's not entirely clear that there even were camps uniquely dedicated to killing jews. All of the camps that were claimed as extermination camps were claimed so by the soviets and every such camp that was subsequently inspected by the allies was determined to not have been dedicated to this purpose.
2) assuming that there were such camps, the numbers still dont add up. It is generally accepted by the proponents of this narrative that there were labor camps, where the physically able were sent to do work for the war effort, and death camps where the physically unfit were sent to die.
The problem therefore is simply one of ratios.
What portion of the overall Jewish population of the time do you surmise to have been in the physically unfit category?
If the portion was even as high as 20%, an astounding figure, then that means there were 4 times as many interred jews in in labor camps as died in the extermination camps.
If we accept the official number of 6 million jews killed in extermination camps, then there must have been 24 million interred jews in the other camps and a total of 30 million jews, assuming all of them were rounded up and interred by the nazis.
For reference, the population of Germany at the time was around 50 million, and the population of the US was around 100 million.
There simply weren't that many jews then.
Im fairly certain there aren't even that many jews now.

>>509193148
>He uses the word “ausrotten” to refer to the Jews, which means to “root out.” After the war, Jewish Americans bought up German dictionaries to change the meaning of “ausrotten” to mean extermination.
What about the words he says after that, though?

Are you sure this is the route you want to attempt? I think it's very clear there are exactly two possibilities: this is an impersonator, or the Nazis wanted to kill every Jew in Europe and got most of them.

>>509193148

>>509189484
insanely based

captcha: YT T8H

>>509193490
The BRITISH done fuck all, it was YOU GERMANS, look the UK is run by RAT GERMAN ROYALS, so fuck off and take those cunts back..

GERMANS ARE KRAFTY LIARS....GERMAN JEWS kill their own people LIKE ALL GERMAN GREEDY RATS, kill their own for MONEY..

TAKE your GERMAN SCUMMY RATS BACK..

>>509189470 (OP)
one can't deny that which didn't happen.
we reject your holocaustianity.

>>509193380
Can you provide an example?

>>509193349
Can you respond to my point about Wikipedia? Why should you tell me to trust it about atrocity A and then tell me to distrust it about atrocity B? Why aren't you saying to trust it for both or distrust it for both?

>>509193593
There’s literally 26 million documents recovered from the holocaust and your rebuttal is a phone book

>>509193702
the british did this

>>509193408
>why deny the holocaust
>Because it didn't happen. Some people care more about the truth than anything else.
I believe many believe it didn't happen. But can you respond to what I wrote under that? If such a person later did believe it, why would it not change their overall position at all?

TLDR nigger yid.
It didn't happen but it should have. How retarded are you niggers? This isn't reddit, go back. Even if you've successfully killed White empathy, we'll still deny it even after your shitty bloodline is forcibly mixed into india at gunpoint. Because it didn't happen.

>>509193728
the wiki shows where the british got the hair, shoe and soap libel from and the idea of death camps

the holocast is a racist anti german british imperial propaganda invention with the aim to eradicate the german people

>>509193458
Thankfully I have used 4chan since 2006 so I have infinite patience for this sort of silliness. I was a liberal then and remain a liberal now, and it's been interesting to see this site's trajectory over the years.

>>509192551
>Thoughts on the Posen speeches?
a fabrication long denied on the basis of of audio artifacts indicative of re-editing

>akshually the Jew lampshade is real-
no it isn't, it was already determined to be made from cellulose and then Jews sensitive to such an obvious fabrication creating bad goy re-evaluated it and cooked the books to say it wuz really skin all along

>m-muh nobody with a brai-
just about every single Japanese government that wasn't trying to get cooks or chinks to stop screeching about it and accept one time reparations (spoiler: they demanded more and kept screeching) for most of the postwar period, much the general population, and any political party that is not neoliberal shabbos cuckolds beg to disagree

>umm yes (((we))) lied but that doesn't mean-
yes it does, you lied too much

>that doesn't mean muh gas chambers are false beca-
yes it does, it's just a rerun of previous atrocity propaganda turned up to 6 Million to force the fulfillment of fake gay rabbinical prophecies to remoralize faggot kikes to commit a genocide in Palestine

>UMM CITE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE-
pffffthahahahha nigger, 'IT'S NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU.' it was a Nuremberg defendant in the SS who was asked 'IS X RECORDING THE VOICE OF HIMMLER?' 'no' 'I REPEAT, IS X HIMMLER's VOICE?' 'it doesn't sound like him' 'PROSECUTION, REMIND THE DEFENDANT THAT NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS, DOES THAT SOUND LIKE HIMMLER OR NOT?' 'you could say that it does but I've heard Himmler and I do not think that's him' 'LET THE RECORD SHOW DEFENDANT HAS ACKNOWLEDGED X RECORDING IS OF HIMMLER AND I TONGUE NIGGER ANUSES'

>>509192630
>akshually, what if the NAZIS were responsible for Jewish holohoax lies by people who were never even in the camps and were engaged in obvious lowbrow huckstering to support their fake victimhood while they slice and chop little baby kike dicks and murder white Christian children to put blood in the matzoh with and always around Passover?
nigger please

>>509193747
>26,000,000 documents

Show me the ones that say extermination and stuff.

And why gas the Jews? Why not a bullet? Why not a hammer to the back of the head like we do cattle? Why crematorium and not a wood chipper?

Fuck, even if we go with gas, why something like cyanide that turns bodies pink?

Why did zero Holocaust survivors mention the pink bodies? They all talked about details of bodies holding each other after gassing, but no one mentioned the discoloration?

Pic related is the gas chamber design, literally a commercial fumigator for delousing.

>>509193763
NOPE, the GERMANS did this...

Why did the people pay off the ww2 debt until 2014 but you the GERMANS got ket off with the WW2 debt ? Because the UK GERMAN ROYALS use us British as pawns for YOU the GERMANS...

Did you know the UK QUEEN BITCH done the GERMAN Christmas over the British Christmas, the UK ROYALS are GERMAN...

WE WANT THEM GONE, PEDO ROBBERS ARE GERMAN UK ROYALS..

>>509193561
>The Gaza holocaust is 100% real
I agree. So was the Nazi Holocaust. And the Armenian genocide and the rape of Nanking and the firebombing of Tokyo and the chaff bombing of Dresden and the Katyn massacre and the My Lai massacre and the Uyghur concentration camps. Only the retarded or ideologically diseased deny or defend atrocities or peddle conspiracy theories.

>>509193989
winston churchill not german

>>509193884
Yes I dare say any confusion about what occurred during the holocaust is the fault of the Nazis. You know, they kind of made a whole big to do about it.

>>509192040
>full text of the speech wasn’t available or authenticated in time for the nuremberg trial
>the prosecution used other excerpts from the speech
>the most incriminating lines were rediscovered around 1970
you have the smoking gun but you don't use it in the trial. cross referencing real world events was just a way to give it legitimacy.

>>509193884
kek... kikes going batshit crazy.
the schvartzes go bonkers when they can't substantiate their kike shylock lies... Shakespeare knew way the fuck back then...
NHH
TKD

>>509189470 (OP)
Throwing people in jail for questioning a narrative in effect destroys that narrative.

>>509194019
kike extraordinaire was Winnie.
kike funded

>>509193974
stop asking racist questions like 'why did the Soviets kill a fuckload of Poles in the Katyn Forest and then blame the Germans for it until the fall of the USSR even after the Red Cross impartially concluded that the reds did it?' and definitely DO NOT ASK 'if they lied about all the other atrocity propaganda and lied about the Soviets killing people that they then blamed the Germans for killing with irrefutable confirmation by commie archives, would they also lie when all of the death camps were in the Soviet occupation zone run by Soviet NKVD Jews raping everyone to death aged from 9 to 90 with absolutely no Allied inspection allowed until they had time to build fake chimneys off an air raid shelter?'

>>509193974
>And why gas the Jews? Why not a bullet? Why not a hammer to the back of the head like we do cattle?

They did all of those things. They used bonfires to make mass graves as well.

>>509194069
they have to deny this means war, in their religion it means the holocaust (even if it was real) was "fair" as jehova ordered similar actions

>>509193651
Yes. Ausrottung - means to root out. Vernichtung does refer to elimination, but I believe that it meant the elimination of jewish cultural identity. Neither words explicitly imply killing. You will need to do better than this speech to convince me.

>>509194148
anons have proven to you that the british and ukrainian jews invented the holocaust, ex post facto retrofitting is worth squat

>>509193728
An example of you being gay for pay? This willfully stupid thread

>>509194148
but they loved gas in unsealed chambers the most because it exposed the germans to danger and they were just built different


anyways after seeing the effects of 80 years of kikery on my nation, i understand why they are so hated throughout history

>>509189470 (OP)
because it never happened but it should have.

>>509194184
we got ausmerzen which means to eradicate by killiing, ausrotten is enough for a modern gaza style genocide trial but wishy washy proportional to what you claim it demonstrates

>>509194019
Churchill sold everyone out for MONEY, just like his grandchilden do today with SERCO...

POWER GREEDY SLUTS...Soon fuckers like this will die...CHURCHILL mum a SLAG like the QUEEN who got fucked by all the horse jocky club then out popped RAT ANDREW the epstein crew memeber..

PEDO ROYALS get supported by PEDO MPs..DEATH TO THEM ALL...

I will KILL a UK MP if they knock on my door, A PROMISE to the world..

>>509194207
Anons have posted silly conspiracy image caps that are easily disproven by official reports

I’ve been here a long time. I don’t fall for any banana in the tailpipe routine.

>>509194148
Show me the ash remains? Show me the photographic evidence of said remains and how it was concluded the people of said mass graves were Jewish and not some prisoners of war, or not part of the Russian atrocities.

Please and thanks.

Rabbi Shlomo doesn’t like the things I say on Twitter NHH. NHH

best version of Nigger Heil Hitler
https://files.catbox.moe/9t4fod.mp3
symphony version

>>509194350
You're paid not to.

>>509193851
lying about being an oldfag is one thing, but the thought of almost two decades of exposure not being sufficient to make you reconsider your association with an identify of ritual child genital mutilation and zealous dishonesty is rather chilling

>>509189470 (OP)
if you became satanic youd realize the presuppositional logic you come with is dysgenic lmfao

>>509193651
Ausrotten means to "rout". Which is an archaic term referring to an action that causes an enemy break ranks and flee. Why use such an ambiguous term when there you can use non-descript but precise words like like "Vernichten" or "Ausmerzen"? Was Adolf Hitler widely know for being careless about his choice of words?

>>509194137
Also don't ask about the massacre of 40-50k Ethnic Germans in Poland immediately prior to WW2, especially do not read the league of nations assessment of the text delivered to them by the 3rd Reich and do no spend hours looking through the photographs of brutalised, butchered and immolated corpses. It would be horribly anti-semitic to do so.

>>509194277
Which is exactly why it makes no sense, Hitler was never vague in his language.

>>509194301
Bro, you need to go and throw a burning wheelie bin at a bobby or something. Anyway, they're all usurpers, George VIII was the last rightful King.

>>509194350
the new york times, primary source evidence from the british confessing to it, the guardian revealing the torture program of POW

>>509189470 (OP)
JUST TRUST US OR WE'LL MAKE IT ILLEGAL HERE TOO

>>509193516
This is kinda where I come down on the whole thing.
I think jews lean on the holocaust to justify the post war period, specifically the founding of Israel and the denazification of Germany.
I dont think this is necessary.
Following the war the Jewish people asserted their collective will to establish themselves as a distinct people and state in the world.
They have since demonstrated on multiple occasions their ability to defend their legitimacy and right to exist through force of arms.
The most recent conflicts have pretty summarily dismissed the tired white nationalist canard theft Israel only exists by relying on the might of the US military.
Israel pretty decidedly destroyed the armed capabilities of multiple adversary groups in rapid succession, include the organized military of Iran.
We were able to destroy their nuclear facilities with relative ease thanks to the fact that Israel was able to completely disable the Iranian air force and air defense capabilities, something that every had said for decades was functionally impossible.
Israel fucking won, the country exists, Palestine doesn't, and anyone who complains about that can eat a fucking bullet.
Ironically enough, based on his writings adolph Hitler himself would agree with this assessment.

>>509194301
In the UK we should all kill UK MPs and rat NEWS READERS...

They faked a pandemic and the RAT UK GERMAN ROYALS told our UK MPs to do it for them...DIE TO ALL UK MPs and the RAT GERMAN UK ROYALS...

PLEASE PLANES FALL OUT THE SKY SO ALL THE ROYALS DIE...

>>509194361
or starved by shortages induced by Allied attack of rail infrastructure feeding the work camps, or wasting to death from Typhoid fever due to the massive lice epidemics that Zyklon B as an anti-insect fumigant is designed to combat, or killed by refeeding syndrome when the Allies let starved kikes stuff themselves stupid without the requisite knowledge to understand the shock could kill them, or...

>>509194277
Thanks, yeah I didn’t hear that word used in the speech. Did you?

>>509194463
Plus their aircraft bombed and strafed tons of them who were being evacuated from Poland in trains.

Nobody has to deny it, the people who want to claim the Hololarp happened after all the testimonies fell apart as sensationalist lies need to provide proof. But they don't, and depending on where you are in the world it's been made illegal to even try to obtain such physical proof.

>>509193643
Your math about how many Jews must have been in other camps is not reasonable.

You ignore the evidence that does exist for extermination camps. Some had no or almost no survivors, so there's less, but if you read this whole page you're going to need to either allege many more vast conspiracy plots or accept what is obvious to nearly every historian of the past 50 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Reinhard

>>509193884
I accept the lampshade might be totally fake. But it's one lampshade. Neither of us is benefitted whether it's real or fake. But I see no immediate evidence the most recent test was performed or requested by anyone Jewish: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx9l4x7xjno Maybe I'm wrong, and I know this is an unbelievably petty point, but you said it was Jews who re-tested it, so can you show how you know it was? Beyond of course "the Jews did everything".

I don't detect such audio artifacts around the relevant parts, and can't find any serious evidence of such. I will dig further, but are you certain you want to die on this hill? There were multiple recordings. Did an ancient AI make them? Did an impersonator make them all and talk that whole time? Did they have a voice changer system?

Have you scrolled through the different excerpts in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches?

I am focusing on this point because the Posen speeches are the smoking gun for proof of the Holocaust in its strongest form (top leadership ordering murder of all Jews). If you're going to refute it, you need something solid.

As for the denials, okay, that's fair, I shouldn't have been so lazy. I'll study the court testimony.

>>509194561
>what is obvious to nearly every historian of the past 50 years
Tenure and royalties?

>>509193851
Yeah, there is a lot of noise on this site, but when the signal breaks through nothing beats it.
Only reason I keep coming back desu.

>>509194561
admit the hoess affidativ was obtained by torture and under duress too

>>509189470 (OP)
Retarded faggot kike, we deny it, because it's proven to be false.
Your own kike census data disprove it, start there, then there's the complete fucking lack of forensic evidence supporting any gassings.
There's no proof of a single rat being gassed by the germs.
Not one.

SHLOMOS WATCH Abe Waxman Kike extraordinaire jam his foot in his mouth over & over & over again.
a brilliant documentary film by Israeli film.maker Yoav Shamir... on jewtube... also watch CHECKPOINT by the same film maker.
KIKES LIE INCESSANTLY & ADMIT IT OVER & OVER & OVER AGAIN IN THE FILM ... "THE HOLOCAUST" IS WAS & ALWAYS WILL BE A KIKE RUSE.
FULL STOP.
why the kikes haven't killed this guy or Norman Finkelstein is a fucking mystery. That's for sure.
Kikes thanks very much for the shits & giggles. My sides. Shalom habibis

>>509194029
I agree it's odd, but the speech lasted many hours and only about 2 minutes mentioned Jews at all. My initial reaction was similar to yours, but it's not that crazy to think they fucked up and initially missed the damning admission buried within in it, given they were doing everything by hand.

I will try to confirm the full timeline and other commentary regarding this so the next time I bring this up I can mention that. This is the smoking gun so I agree rigor is crucial.

>look at the archives
>no not those you fuckstick, the real news archives from the 20th century
they've been 6millioning every 2 weeks for over a century now

it's fake, it's all fake, it was always fake, they are doing it all for money

>>509194704
it was a british operation not a jewish one

>>509194148
You need forced air to turn bones to ash, like a smelting furnace.
You simply can't get enough heat to eliminate the remains with an open air bonfire, there would be charred skeletons behind, and nowhere near 6 million charred skeletons jave been found.
There are documented mass graves, mostly from village massacres that happened in eastern Europe, but the total estimates of those numbers come out to less than 100k.

>>509194424
In ww1 the Germans lay in wait to kill the BRITISH way before we knew we was going to war...

Our RAT GERMAN ROYALS sold cement, BLUE CIRCLE CEMENT to build bunkers many weeks before we the British knew we was going to war, the GERMANS BOMBED the shit out of us all because they was ordered to o it by our own UK GERMAN ROYALS...

>>509194561
> I am focusing on this point because the Posen speeches are the smoking gun for proof of the Holocaust in its strongest form (top leadership ordering murder of all Jews). If you're going to refute it, you need something solid.

Someone said something ambiguous is not fucking proof of anything.

Especially not after /pol/s razor is applied.

Show us real fucking evidence and we’ll believe you.

Literally everyone here admits at least 270,000 Jews died.

We don’t believe 6,000,000 died.

Why did no Holocaust survivors mention the bodies of gas chamber victims being cherry pink from cyanide poisoning and why hasn’t a single Jew here addressed this?

>>509194408
POLISH ATROCITIES AGAINST THE GERMAN MINORITY IN POLAND is such a fun document, I absolutely love POLISH ATROCITIES AGAINST THE GERMAN MINORITY IN POLAND, released internationally with lots of detailed photographs and proper forensic examination and circumstances that involved the Poles chimping out and leading a pogrom against non-Poles as they've been known to do and not an unprecedented (outside the (((Soviet Union))) or even the Donmeh membership of the (((Young Turks Movement))) in Armenia, as EXPLICITLY OBSERVED AND CALLED OUT BY FUTURE NAZI MAX ERWIN VON SCHEUBNER-RICHTER) industrial genocide of Jews that bears every single hallmark of previous atrocity propaganda campaigns in the early 20th century with an unassailable secular religion and severe legal penalty making its questioning an act of heresy against the philosemitic state

>>509194561
>uuhh-uhmm, it was just the one time, ignore those other times, y-you don't benefit if it WAS fake uhh... y-you know it's totally impossible to doctor audio or images with analog technology r-right? haha ancient AI haha ignore Stalin deleting unpersons from his photographed midst
>Y-you should waste your time reexamining the sources you've already despised and deboonked for years becau-
dumb kikel, you exist only to be ceaselessly abused and eventually utterly punished for your actions against the entire human race for OVER THREE THOUSAND YEARS OF BABY BURNING TOPHET STUFFING WELL POISONED CHILD SURROGATE CHRIST KILLING INSANITY

>>509191111
>It's obviously fake.
digits confirm

>>509189470 (OP)
>Holocaust happened and was a good thing

>>509194817
We can all agree that JEWS are the biggest RATS on earth...And no one really likes them at all, we can all agree on that point, only a jew wouldn't agree or a money grabbing sell out, take your pick...

JEWS ARE SCUM OF THE EARTH and soon as they go the better the world will be...Oh and the ROYALS are like JEWS, GREEDY SCUMBAGS..

>>509194361
>>509194807
Did you know they’re still finding unmarked mass graves to this day? Somewhere in the European country side are just graves with hundreds if not thousands of bodies underneath. It’s actually really fucked up.

>You need forced air to turn bones to ash, like a smelting furnace

Well that’s exactly what they did. They used a furnace.

“Bones that did not burn completely were ground to powder with pestles and then dumped, along with the ashes, in the rivers Soła and Vistula and in nearby ponds, or strewn in the fields as fertilizer, or used as landfill on uneven ground and in marshes.”

>>509194071
>Throwing people in jail for questioning a narrative in effect destroys that narrative.
You and I live in the US, anon.

>>509193593
I do not live in Europe. I obviously think making any speech illegal in any country is absurd. I think it's dumb to think that making something illegal increases the evidence it's true, though. It should cause you to be more curious about the thing but not more skeptical about the thing.

>>509194184
>>509194408
Himmler clarifies repeatedly in multiple speeches that by ausrottung he means killing.

You are ignoring words he says seconds later or a few days later to focus on a single verb - which itself does obviously often refer to killing of humans in contexts such as these, but even if he had never said "ausrottung" at all he's still talking about killing all Jews given the other sentences.

>>509194752
and now you have it perfectly stichted together on jewtube for all the goys to listen too (with comments disabled), even though the second part was "redicovered". literally any document that proves the holocaust is as fragile as that under scrutiny. we went through all of them here.

>>509189470 (OP)
Because no one is going to waste 300kg of coal cremating Jewish vermin in war time

>>509189470 (OP)
The Holocaust is deeply offensive to the German people. To believe in the Holocaust is to believe the Germans were too incompetent to kill people. Which is just nonsense, had there really been an order to kill the Jews, there would be not be hundreds of thousands of survivors.

>>509194894
What’s fucking offensive isn’t that it’s fake, it’s that they gaslight us this fucking hard to believe it’s real. Going as far as arresting people for it. Fuck Jews as a race, they’re literally worse than Indians and Niggers combined.

>>509195055
>strewn in the fields as fertilizer
you dumb fucking kike this narrative has already been obsoleted by the entry on this boards' discourse of the fact that human cremains poison the Earth like fucking salt for generations due to the pH level, yet before the kikes covered the mass graves with rocks & gravel it was nothing but clean green turf, almost as if nobody dumped hundreds of thousands of bodies worth of cremains into spaces smaller than a football field

>>509195121
the idea is that the most antisemitic people in history were unable to find a 1000 IDF members to do the shooting at woman and children part

on TV Tropes this is called fridge logic (making only sense in an artificially enclosed and self contained space)

>>509192118
No, I understand, but neo nazis have cucked themselves into thinking that the concentration camps managed to offer imprisoned Jews the same amenities as a Swedish prison. OP is absolutely right about holocaust denial as a political talking point in the modern era. It is THE most cucked thing anyone ever came up with.

>>509194561
The opening paragraph of that link is insane.
They claim the kill rate was 83% higher than the rawandan genocide.
The rawandan genocide was notable because it is one of the only documented genocides where the common people participated.
So in its opening paragraph that article claims that the kill rate of a dedicated group of SS officers was higher than that of when an entire country took up guns and machetes and started openly hunting an ethnic minority.
That's a pretty bold claim.

On the point of the lampshade though, I can believe it's real if there's only one of them.
I dont find it difficult to imagine at all that the nazi regime, in open contempt for the Jewish people, would pick its most sadistic members to administer the concentration camps.
Particularly as the war situation became more dire and discipline began to break down I can see a particularly sadistic officer, having likely already committed numerous warcrimes, deciding to make a lampshade out of the skin of one of his victims.
American soldiers made necklaces out of severed ears during Vietnam so it's not totally unbelievable.
I would find the idea that it was some widespread phenomenon to be totally be absurd however.

>>509194442
Arguing that the Holocaust is not good justification for Israel's creation or actions is perfectly reasonable and in many ways simply correct. But everything changes if the Holocaust was simply a lie. The person you are replying to thinks it's a hoax! That's a whole new equation regarding how to judge basically everything.

Just like 9/11 conspiracy theories. Was 9/11 a horrible justification to invade Iraq? Yes. But that has nothing to do with the absurd claim that Bush/Israel/Jews did it. Unfortunately, nowadays most of the remaining right-wingers on Earth are very unintelligent and gullible (the rest have mostly switched to a different faction; at least for now) so they believe in every retarded conspiracy theory in existence and therefore it is pointless for me to make this post.

>>509195189
I’m sure the Nazis deeply considered the PH levels of the soil before throwing the dust of their enemies into lakes and dirt

>>509195189
dont you get it where are the bodies, ashes, where are the ashes? dispersed, retrofitting and markers of ex post facto reasoning the way the claims evolved into the unfalsifieable shows they got nothing

>>509195274
clearly they must have BECAUSE IT DIDN'T KILL ALL OF THE FISH OR GRASS OR CREATE ANY MEASURABLE ANYTHING FOR SKEPTICAL INDEPENDENT GENTILE RESEARCHERS TO FIND AT THE ORIGINAL SITES, almost as if THERE WERE NO CREMAINS DUMPED because THERE WERE NO CREMAINS BEING SURREPTITIOUSLY HIDDEN

>>509189470 (OP)
The what? Never heard of it.

>>509189470 (OP)
Have you ever thought of the fact that it happened by Zionist Jews? Take for instance the saundercommandos but we are told they were "forced." Zionist Jews and non-Zionist Jews don't get along.

>>509195310
Don’t you see stupid goy?? 6 million were crammed into my Mazda’s ashtray if you question this you’re going to jail

>>509190540
The Holocaust is the foundation myth which the entirety of the modern world is based on.

>>509195055
How convenient.

>>509195059
> I think it's dumb to think that making something illegal increases the evidence it's true, though.

Really? Cool. Name every other historical event this is illegal to question in western (open) society.

>>509194442

yeah I guess now isn't a great time to be denying the holocaust because Israel needs every advantage it can get. I remember back when Israel was strong enough to not need that extra little lie. The only thing that actually blows my mind is I'm pretty sure most Jews don't know the truth.

>>509195251
the villian of schindlers list amon goeth was put on trial by nazi germany for killing jewish inmates (and stealing)

/pol/ produced a telegram to me ordering all camp commanders to minimalize the deaths of inmate as they were warcritical labor, the telegram is enough for me to doubt the entire rube goldberg machine genocide claim, that one document is better than what the other side has come forward with in a decade

>>509195235
How about if the truth actually came out that it was much lower in number and it was Zionist Jews punishing non-Zionist Jews?

>>509195055
>Bones that did not burn completely
ie: All of them.
Also
>The Russians are coming
Ok, I'm gonna fill in these potholes on the road with jew bone ash. While under artillery fire and being strafed and bombed by hundreds of fighter bombers.

>>509195059
>Himmler clarifies repeatedly in multiple speeches that by ausrottung he means killing.
Himmler didn't "clarify things for Hitler. This is just silly.

>>509195413

DESU jews would have been so much happier in madagascar. :( :( :(

>>509195506
yes this is true

Complete fabrication that is laughably outlandish. It didn't hapoen and I pray for the day the kikes get their comeuppance for foisting this monstrous lie on the planet

>>509195506
Madagascar was a pretty good deal. I'm surprised they didn't take it.

>>509194752
I dont agree that it's the smoking gun you think it is.
It certainly goes to intent and I dont think there's any disagreement that the nazis hated the jews.
The problem is that a speech is just words.
I think it's almost certain that he said the words, but politicians lie all the time, especially when they are trying to throw read meat to their base.
A far more damping piece of evidence would have been something like the transcript of a private meeting, or a private correspondence, or a progress report on the status of the final solution.
Also, the argument that they documented everything and just hit it in coded messages has never made sense.
It makes sense for criminals to hide their crimes because they fear the law, but nazi Germany was a sovereign country conducting official business.
Sure they were at war but it's not like they were planning to lose.
Why hide evidence of your crimes if you dont believe the things you are doing are crimes?
If the holocaust was conducted as an official act with sanction of the nazi government then there should be extensive official records.
If it wasn't an official act then how can we say the nazi government is guilty of perpetrating it?

>>509191645
It was three of them, the "Reinhardt" camps, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec had open air grills. What's crazy is Treblinka is only like 17 hectares where they gassed 900,000 kikes, buried them in mass graves, dug them back up (during the winter), then cremated them on the open air grills with bodies stacked 3-5 high. Women would be put on the bottom, of course, because we all know women are fatter and fat makes the rest of the pyre burn hotter.

>>509195490
he didn't he clarifies with german corpses why the commie jews have to be removed from germany, by which means he does not say, it is genocide intent by the gaza and modern genocide conception but not ausmerzen removing by murder

>>509189470 (OP)
>why deny it in the first place?
Because like unicorns or faries or women with dicks it's not real you fucking dunce.

>>509195310
The US army unearthed thousands of mass graves after they defeated the Nazis. They collected 3000 tons of records. I’m just saying, holocaust deniers like to fight the most uphill battle I’ve ever seen. It’s flat earth tier.

>>509190780
Or they kill the ones in the know about the truth of the Holocaust. Why do you think Nuremberg was so swift?

If it didn't happen, the Nazis are the biggest bunch of faggots and losers in history who couldn't even walk the walk and do what they needed to do. Founded by literal faggots like Rohm as well. What a fucking joke.

>>509195607
those camps have no facilities, no fuel delivery recrds and were not in the chaim of command and had no camp commanders, pure headfakes an amateur can tell within an hour of neutral critical thinking and evidence

auschwitz is hard

>>509190928
You're gay, Canaanite.

>>509195490
Bones don’t even burn, they calcify and then at very high temperatures + long periods of time the organic material burns away and only oxides and salts are left in a lump

>>509195653
the US captured zero deathcamps

>>509195526
LITERALLY ZERO JEWS HAVE EXPLAINED WHY NO SURVIVORS MENTIONED DEAD BODIES TURNING CHERRY PINK FROM CYANIDE POISONING - A SIGHT THAT WOULD BE GRUESOME TO BEHOLD.

THE REASON IS THEY CAN’T EXPLAIN THIS.

THIS IS WHY THEY FOCUS ON AMBIGUOUS SPEECHES.

THERE IS NO REAL FUCKING EVIDENCE AND IF THERE WAS I WOULD CHANGE MY MIND IN A HEARTBEAT.

>>509195563
>If the holocaust was conducted as an official act with sanction of the nazi government then there should be extensive official records.
And no survivors. That's the simplest and obvious proof that it is false. Far too many survivors. More and more every year now, for 80 years. Shocking oversight.

>>509195726
New survivors a being born every day goy it’s called generational trauma

>>509195719
Not to be pedantic, but do you know that for sure? You haven’t read every account.

>>509189470 (OP)
The truth is no one fucking cares anymore.
In a decade or so anyone that was alive during the time will be dead.
The propaganda, the facts, the evidence none of it matters anymore.
The reality of the situation is that the majority of the world hates your country and your people.
You have abused all the goodwill you've received for surviving the Holocaust and you used that opportunity to commit ethnic cleansing.
Even your lack of support in Western countries is even your own undoing.

Jews have been at the forefront of civil rights and social justice movements, along with advocating for mass immigration and being at the head of many ngo's flooding countries with mass third world immigration.
Muhammad from Syria or Afghanistan doesn't give a fuck about the Holocaust, Jerome from the Congo hasn't even heard of it.
But you know what? They all have heard about the evils of colonialism, and do you know what they see jews doing right now?
So really you fucked yourself, you were so eager to get one back on the Europeans for the Holocaust that you've replaced the people that cared about it.

You're so far behind, you're so out of touch that you're here trying to browbeat White people about the Holocaust.
If things stay on course there won't be any White people left to care about the Holocaust.
If you had half the IQ you boast of you wouldn't spend another moment on us and you'd be on your fucking knees begging brown people to have sympathy for you.

The truth is you're already fucked, it wasn't Hitler that did it or the Germans or Europeans.
You fucked yourself through your own hubris.

It's quite the scam these jews have going on, but it has historical precedence, they even formed their religious books around it.
Always the victims. Never mind they should not have been in those places in the first place. It's going to get really bad now this generation of retards have allowed every other race of undesirables into white countries. Talk about a trojan horse.

>>509189470 (OP)
because you faked it till you made it jew
you are no victim you are a criminal

>>509195726
It’s all so tiresome.

>>509195696
Auschwitz is easy, leuchter report

>>509195251
The idea of lampshades being a real thing was debunked eons ago. No one serious believes it anymore. It's just neo-Nazis who mention it in the past few decades to make all the other accusations sound ridiculous. But yes, one lampshade may be real.

Here's a recent paper on Operation Reinhard claiming the extreme killing rates: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aau7292

I don't know how true it is, but the premise doesn't seem absurd. Germans are efficient and they desired collective revenge for the assassination of Reinhard, the idealized SS man.

>>509195413
Making denying the Holocaust illegal is bad and stupid for many reasons. But the reason it's the only one that's illegal should be clear, no? If one believes it's true, it's the worst crime in at least the past 500 years. They believe it's so uniquely bad and so obviously true that the only people denying it are denying it solely to incite hatred and murder of Jews. This logic is terrible and achieves the opposite effect, but what can I say, Europeans are cucked (and I am a liberal and literally never use the word "cucked"). All that said, I think Holocaust denial would be roughly as common now if it were never illegal, so the people saying they believe it largely because it's forbidden are not correct.

>>509195475
I am not Zionist and I do not believe there is any correlation among Jews between belief in the Holocaust and feelings about Israel. Pretty much every Jew besides Ron Unz knows the Holocaust is real.

>>509195607
Do you really think stacking the bodies makes the process faster or take less fuel lmao

>>509189470 (OP)
Kill yourself kike

>>509195811
Yes there is no record of any Holocaust survivor or prison guard or anyone mentioning the bodies turning cherry pink during the Geneva convention trials.

Literally none.

Nobody fucking bothered to bring up THE MOST OBVIOUS SIGN OF CYANIDE POISONING.

>>509189621
>>509189688
Those of you itt who don’t understand just how easy it is for corrupt governments and powerful institutions/entities to propagandize entire societies should watch this immediately:
>Meet Edward Bernays, Master of Propaganda:
https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-edward-bernays-master-of-propaganda/

…And thats just the tip of the ice(((berg))). If you approach the rabbithole with a mentality of genuine interest in learning the truth about this reality and your place in it, (you) will inevitably arrive at the topic of flat earth.

Protip: every single answer to literally any and all flat earth related questions you may have can be found in this pastebin:
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>>509195255
>Arguing that the Holocaust is not good justification for Israel's creation or actions is perfectly reasonable and in many ways simply correct.
Yes it is. The Zionist Jews were left in charge of the Nazi party. They furthered their consolidation of power.

>>509195849
your country invented it, the jews only piled on

I just find it interesting that jews deny that the holodomor was a genocide because according to them "no order was given". But we don't have any order for the holocaust either. Just thought it's interesting how that works.

>>509189470 (OP)
There is nothing to deny because nothing happened.
jews were put into large POW camps because they were overrepresented among partisans and terrorists, these camps were last in line for food and medical supplies as Germany was blockaded and suffering extreme logistical backups leading to mass casualties in the camps. Hunger and Anxiety and Fear gave way to mass hysteria and the spreading of myths like mass execution in gas chambers. These myths became unquestionable over the years as numerous people swore by them, not unlike numerous people swear by being abducted by UFOs.

It’s just absurd to say a Western Christian nation went insane and did something totally out of character.
What’s more likely? Westerners in Germany became insane for 6 years then returned to normalcy or sick, hungry, hysterics driven by fear gave way to absurd rumors?

>>509195883
its not, complex facility = complex arguments = no chance to get normies

>>509189621
>>509189688
>>509195965
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>>509189621
>>509189688
>>509195965
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>>509195913
>Do you really think stacking the bodies makes the process faster or take less fuel lmao
That's what kikes fucking say, man. All that is "eyewitness testimony" because, as you all know with all mass graves, we need to cover the whole thing with lidar-blocking stones and cement out of respect for the deceased. Instead of exhuming to identify what deceased we can.

>>509195653
This is such a blatant lie, given that the red army is the only army that uncovered “death” camps versus concentration camps. There were American observers (via the American Red Cross) at 30 of the 37 “death” camps, after they denied that the purpose of the camps were for extermination they became “concentration” camps.

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>>509194396
>lying about being an oldfag is one thing, but the thought of almost two decades of exposure not being sufficient to make you reconsider your association with an identify of ritual child genital mutilation and zealous dishonesty is rather chilling
Not lying. And as you National Socialists love to insist, being Jewish isn't a thing one chooses. If your parents are Jewish, you are Jewish, no? Isn't that your whole thing.

I don't support circumcision of minors since they can't consent to it and it's unnecessary. The people who do it either believe the holy books are real, in which case they literally believe God demands slicing off foreskin, or it's simply culturally ingrained and they don't think about it.

The dishonesty thing is funny. I'm supposed to say "I quit being a Jew" because "being a Jew means you're dishonest"?

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>>509195965
Oh here comes the flat earth jew to mix his conspiracy in to discredit our information.

We don’t hate Jews enough.

I mean think about it, if you were in a situation where you were ideologically compatible with a complete bought and paid for post war definition of the word "Ausrotten".
You control all supply, movement and the minutae of life for millions of your most hated ideological opponents.
You are capable of slaughtering 24 million soviets while sustaining a mere fraction of that number in casualties of your own (In fact most of your casualties are inflicted as prisoners of war rather than in combat)
You are creating weapons that will still be considered advanced 10 years into the future.
But, somehow, a few million slaves who are already dying of every disease known to man manage to elude your killing power?

Why?
Due to arguments as to what Hitler actually mean because nobody ever cut any written fucking orders.

It's laughable.

>>509195780
Where's the counterpoint? If they have generational survivors. I want a generational holocaust.

>>509195872
Indeed.

Where are the bodies

6 million (just the 6 million jews fyi) weighs 370 million kilograms

>>509195905
>But the reason it's the only one that's illegal should be clear, no?
lesser kill numbers than the deliberate Soviet killings, lesser numbers than the plausibly deniable by incompetence Chi-Com killings, lesser brutality than the Judeo-Turk Armenian genocide

severely lesser brutality than the nonsense in Gaza which is like the German response to the Warsaw Uprising except in every way less existentially justified and undertaken with a disgusting verminous mixture of childish cruelty and perversely incompetent cowardice

devoid of documentation that doesn't reek of insane atrocity propaganda Boy Who Cried Wolf cope as establishmentarian kikes build the lie bigger and bigger until it can't hold up under its own weight nor can they possibly prevent examination with unbearable information age pressure on a narrative that was literally instantaneously being called atrocity propaganda in the '50s and treated by MPs during the occupation as libel off and on

yes, it's clear, it's because the Jews need to maintain it or they suffer a real holocaust instantly as the neoliberal shabbos world realizes that Judeo-Santa is not real, just like the holohoax

>>509195607
Human bodies dont burn though.
Humans are 70% water, the amount of energy it takes to vaporized a human body is astounding.
Multiply that by several million and it crosses the line into absurdity.
Furthermore, do you realize the size of the pyres you are describing?
You would need a football stadium full of corpses burning at the temperature of a blast furnace 24/7 for years.
You are talking about a mountain of corpses burning all at once.

>>509196211
/pol/ 2025 vocabulary is so much better than 2009, the holocaust truther side has not changed

>>509195905
>I do not believe there is any correlation among Jews between belief in the Holocaust and feelings about Israel.
Cause that's the secret. Occult madness is hidden in the dark. The Zionist Jews punished the non-Zionist Jews because they were comfortable in Germany. Germany was the least anti-Semitic country in Europe. Who wants to move to a desert when you got art and mansions?

>>509196214
I take it my name didn't give away my post being ironic, did it?

>>509196073
Some anon was saying people went to jail for trying to do soil scans, I couldn’t find anything on joogle though

>>509192746
I need to have that appendix...

...removed.

>>509196327
they did threaten them but not sure if arrests were made, was treblinka

>>509195696
That's nice but what do you think about Anne Frank inventing a ballpoint pen in an attic?

>>509195905
> so the people saying they believe it largely because it's forbidden are not correct.

And who said this? This is a total fucking non sequitur meant to make light of the fact a historical event is illegal to question.

The Jews own the governments there, nobody is cucked, they’re scared to speak out against the genocidal Jews.

>>509196414
was real, too understated for a fake same for the posen speeches

>>509196381
Yeah sounds awfully Jewish to threaten researchers

>>509196322
There’s plenty of shills that make these threads trying to genuinely argue what you had in your earlier post

>>509196415
This is the real way to do it around normies.

>>509195996
The first part of your post is somewhat true but 1) still completely indefensible and 2) untrue after two years into the war.

I agree the claims are extremely difficult to believe. It seems like ridiculous wartime propaganda. But that should make you more, not less, curious in its truth.

What do you think of Himmler's speeches, in the OP and below? Is it an impersonator or is he acknowledging they are exterminating the Jewish race?

>>509196153
I don't think you understand chemistry or biology. What do you think of the speeches?

>>509196211
I'm not saying the genocide of the Jews of Europe is the biggest mass murder. If you say "the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews but Stalin killed more of his own people" then sure. I am not arguing that you should care about the Holocaust. I am just saying only morons deny it.

If you want to compare which things are worse or better, go ahead. The true numbers in the Gaza genocide won't be known until a few years after the war ends probably. It'll probably on net turn out to be worse than the Holodomor (proportionally speaking and in terms of types of actions) but not as bad as anything the Nazis did in Poland or Eastern Europe or to the Jews or Romani.

>>509196431
>Luftwaffe
Hits the target
>RAF
Hits everything but the target
>USAAF
Hits everything
>IDF
Claims that whatever it hit must have been the target.

>>509196452
>it was real in my mind

>>509190080
>watch EUROPA THE LAST BATTLE
>muh propaganda
no thank you

>>509195813

So that's actually where ISIS has done a really good job attacking the Jews. Is forcing them to strike in anger. The Oct 7 bullshit was fucked up, and a lot of the other terrorist attacks jews have endured has been pretty bad. the muslims hide behind women and children and attack from within civilians. they use the techniques of a coward and dare the Jews to either attack the entire city inoccent and guilty as one; or let the onslaught continue. I think that as a evil but brilliant play the Muslims did. I can genuniely see why Jews would just push all the muslims out of Israel though at this point. U got 2 choices get shit on or act like a monster. They chose to act like a monster and get judged for it rather then be a victim. I'd say where the Muslims fucked up was probably running around UK / EU raping everyone and going nuts with power and making everyone hate them for no good reason. Least when the jews make everyone hate them they've got valid reasons like survival.

>>509196582
show me the holocaust in anne franks diary, posen speechs says nazis didnt want to shoot jews, the most antisemitic humans in history had more respect for unversal human existence than the IDF has on an average saturday

German codes were cracked = no mention of killing Jews

Spy planes flew over labor camps = no proof of coal for cremation, chimneys don’t match, major inconsistencies

Germans keep records of deaths in labor camps that don’t match = five trains pull into a death camp, 4 instantly led to showers to get gassed, last train Germans feed, shelter, give medication, document, provide midwifes, etc.


The only holocaust that has happened is in gaza, the most documented genocide ever recorded by the manically Jews themselves.

>>509194408
>massacre of 40-50k Ethnic Germans in Poland immediately prior to WW2,

Source. Theres none. Nothing

>>509196651
>So that's actually where ISIS has done a really good job attacking the Jews.
ISIS is an israeli/nato proxy that is an open secret, ISIS does not attack jews

>>509189470 (OP)
>I'm a Jew
fuck off glowie

>>509196651
You are extremely ignorant and retarded and you don't even know the names of the organizations you're trying to blame.

>>509196668
Nevermind the fact that there’s pictures of Jewish women giving birth at these fucking camps, or that one camp was examined and the Jews were doing fine there, expect they weren’t, they were all too scared to speak out that they were being genocided so it went unnoticed.

Imagine being so selfish you don’t even report your own genocide.

>>509196665
>show me the holocaust in anne franks diary
I already did. It's perfectly authentic and written with a ballpoint pen. Nicely matched with the detached chimney and wooden gas chambah doors at auschwitz.

>>509196651
Oct 7 was just a badly made sequel to 9-11.

>>509196696
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/NHC/NewPDFs/GERMANY/GER.Polish.Atrocities.Against.German.Minority.in.Poland.1940.pdf

Enjoy, you'll like the pictures at the end.

>>509196766
US intel shill is my guess, this post exemplifies their MO study it
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>>509196523
>ummm akshually Judeo-Bolshevists massacring tens of millions of Slavic Christians and forcing them to eat their own children and committing every unimaginable atrocity dreamed of in holohoax propaganda but real and backroom Jew led chicoms causing a sociological-ecological-economical collapse so severe that tens of millions more to die in a blink that permanently extinguishes non-CCP Chinese culture on the mainland and crypto-Jews burying a massive swathe of the total Armenian population alive in dynamited mineshafts as a future Nazi whistleblows about it & how fucked up it is and Jews deliberately flattening a city sized concentration camp while under no actual duress after a small scale kidnapping attack that might've been a falseflag in which regardless Merkava tanks and attack helicopters caused more casualties in the crowd than the enemy militants right before survivors of the incident mysteriously started committing mass suicide is clearly lesser than muh holohoax
>what do you mean why? because we Jews had to do manual labor! that's like a holocaust in and of itself!
the sheer niggery of Jewish chutzpah

>>509196809
anne franks diary does not include gaschambers and the jews die by disease in hospital treatment, the diary corroborates /pol/

>>509196806
holocaust denial is woke right and brown coded. if you don't support your greatest ally you are simply too dimwitted for political discourse period. fuck off to the woods and leave the politics for the adults.

>>509196431
> so the people saying they believe it largely because it's forbidden are not correct.
>And who said this? This is a total fucking non sequitur meant to make light of the fact a historical event is illegal to question.
I am referring to the posters in this thread who initially resounded to my prompt of "why deny it" with something about it being illegal. But yes it's misleading of me to imply that means that's their central reason for denying the Holocaust so disregard my point there.

Making any speech illegal is counterproductive and immoral.

>The Jews own the governments there, nobody is cucked, they’re scared to speak out against the genocidal Jews.
This point is retarded though. If you live in Palestine then yes. If you live in Europe or America and are scared a Jew will kill you for saying the Holocaust is fake, you are delusional. As a diaspora Jew I can say we're more the "strongly worded letter" type.

That said, if someone wrote "white genocide isn't real but it needs to be", you would probably (justifiably) react to that as any Jew would react to the parallel statement, so it's difficult to have sympathy for people publicly stirring up racial hatred and genocide advocacy. Not that they should be attacked physically, but of course they will be made a pariah. The % of people who question the Holocaust because they genuinely wish to determine the truth vs. how many despise Jews and want to kill them all is one reason why an earnest discussion is very difficult, even if criminalizing such a discussion is anti-human rights.

>>509196833
It's probably the same retarded glow nigger who had to put a tablet screen on a photocopier to get screen grabs and forgot that you could see which posts they made in the Brenton Tarot double chan thread.
That or some combination of bot or lost and confused senile Boomer

>>509195913
The modern jewish understanding of fire science and thermodynamics is still rooted in the ignorant ramblings found in memoirs written by largely uneducated "holocaust survivors" who would have thought that the stupid shit they were lying about would be believable, like a child telling their parents a bear and an eagle broke into the house and ate all the cookies.

>>509196890
>anne franks diary does not include gaschambers and the jews die by disease in hospital treatment, the diary corroborates /pol/
based, but how did she invent a ballpoint pen in the attic? (((They))) loved it when Aryan Bacon projected it on the Anne Frank haus

>>509196956
>so it's difficult to have sympathy for people publicly stirring up racial hatred and genocide advocacy. Not that they should be attacked physically, but of course they will be made a pariah
And this precisely is why the Holocaust doesn't matter anymore, pretty much no one is alive that's been through that but there's something going on right now that's occupying people's minds.

>>509190075
False.

>>509196958
aim of the post as honey pot, anti muslim
railroad with islamic motive
uses ISIS instead of hamas to appear authentic retarded
derails, extreme unprompted motivated focus
camouflages that ISIS(+jolani) is an israeli/NATO proxy what every anon knows (not going in why it is known by evidence)

very professional, zero emotion in it, this is the FBI by my guess we saw their MO in US court docs

>>509196966
The marvels of German engineering never cease to amaze me

>>509196956
>oy vey why would we ever murder holohoax deniers? why would you ever even suspect that we might do such a thing?
>it's not like we're well known for false flags and well poisoning and Mossad niggers illegally killing perceived enemies with the help of plainclothed Jewish sayanim-helpers while compromising the entire political system of the west with child slave prostitutes filmed on a tropical rape island!
>next you'll tell (((me))) that (((we))) plan to nuke the entire world the moment our plan for global domination is existentially threatened or that we'd have the gall to name it after Samson committing murder-suicide of thousands of bad goy?
dumb kike chutzpah

>>509189470 (OP)
I don't really care nor do i feel one way or another about it, but since this is a large thread, people denounce it because in the ww2 post world order, the Holocaust become one of the main founding pillars of the new consensus, that's why it's attacked it's so entrenched as a pillar of the Liberal world order, that they attack it.

I solved the mystery for you. it doesn't matter if it did or didn't happen the main point is they attack it because it's a foundational myth of Europe after WW2. and as such they need to remove it to well, go somewhere new. it is really simple.

>>509197257
the rheinhard camps are not listed in the header, thus no camps, no camp commanders in 1943, rheinhard camps are fakes

>>509197270
Their grasp of hydraulics was really something too.

>>509197257
REDUCE FATALITIES BY ALL MEANS! WE NEED THEM TO WIN THE WAR

to all camp commanders, this is the strongest and most clearcu evdence I have seen and i goes against the holocaust by 1943

I wanna kill jews in my lifetime

>>509193763
>the british did this
True.

>>509196651
everybody say hello to the FBI

>>509197173
>the Holocaust doesn't matter anymore
Couldn't be further from the truth, it's a foundational myth. It's the keystone that underpins the entire rot of the age we live in. There is nothing more important than the lie of the holocaust and the mentality that it has engendered into the minds of the modern practice of statecraft. Dismantling it is essential to our survival.

>>509196888
Why do you think it is most of the West agrees with you on Israel's actions but almost none of them agree with you about the rest?

It's because you're intermixing obvious public atrocities perpetrated by the self-proclaimed Jewish state and literal schizophrenia rambling. I would not be surprised if you could actually be diagnosed with a psychotic disorder.

Stalin and Mao were not Jewish. Stalin largely disliked Jews and was possibly close to a pogrom before he died. You will find some Jews in important positions in the USSR (such as one of the people who ordered the killing of the Tsar) but this worldview relies upon the neo-Nazi retardation that different Jews are mystically linked across time and space and nation. But crucially, Jews were far less represented in the Bolshevik and NKVD/KGB leadership than neo-Nazis see from their propaganda: https://mischrev.substack.com/p/judeo-bolshevism

Also, a pretty small percentage of Jews in Germany or Russia even were communists. It's more just that in basically every political movement or organization in history, you will find a disproportionate number of Jews in upper positions. Right-wing, left-wing, centrist. It takes exactly the mental traits that make (You) *not* the type to end up in such positions to think the causal mechanism there is globally coordinated nepotism or plotting.

Because it is the myth that validates and props up the entire post war liberal order. And, you people just really piss me off. Even if it did happen I don't think it deserves the inorderant attention that it receives. No one cares about the Rwandan genocide or the Armenian Genocide, but I'm supposed to care about the six gorjillion? Fuck that.

>>509196956
> If you live in Europe or America and are scared a Jew will kill you for saying the Holocaust is fake, you are delusional.

Not directly, but plenty of people lose jobs for asking questions, and then fall into poverty and get killed by niggers or the Muslims that Jews invited into white nations. As a diaspora Jew you should know the entire feminism/multiculturalism shit was pushed and created by Jews.

> As a diaspora Jew I can say we're more the "strongly worded letter" type.

Not even, you throw people in jail, you get accounts banned (censorship), you close bank accounts (Kanye), you deplatform or make it impossible to set up alternatives, and you call literally fucking everything antisemitic.

You don’t kill directly, but you do kill indirectly, as proven, and that’s genocidal behavior.

>>509197346
Fermented Jews, only a Jew could come up with fantasies like this

>>509189470 (OP)
What's a holocoat?

>>509197502
stalin made antisemitism punishable by death
the idea that stalin specific persecuted jews is a disproven jewish propaganda fake

>>509197609
Stalin persecuted everybody so using his insanity as a frame of reference makes no sense. He would have shot his own shadow if syphilis hadn't made him such a rotten shot.

>>509197567
Just wait until you hear about high command's piano dog.

>>509197593
An expensive piece of architecture, according to niggers.

>>509197684
I want one. Where can I buy an SS Pianoverbesserungshund?

>>509197681
almost the entire leading cadre was heebs anon, stalin hit them hard because the revolution was jewish(trotzky, solzhenitzyn, putin and churchill all agree on that)

they kvetch everytime I say stalin was not antisemitic, always go for the fact (in truth) that he made antisemitism punishable by death reconfirm and earlier law that was meant to retard progroms (which had started against the property owning jews in russia)

>>509197684
Found a picture of the dog (1944, colorized)

>>509197684
I’m a fan of the masturbation machines personally, I want to roll them out to shopping centres like vending machines
I call it the $2 sucky sucky

>>509197553
I am a liberal (as in socially left, economically center-right) so you are barking up the wrong tree. Feminism and multiculturalism are based, and when far-rightists try to point to Jews supporting such things as evidence of nefariousness I can only think "uh wtf I love Jews now".

It's especially funny because in boards like /lgbt/ there are many staunch antisemites who say all the same things but aligned to them. They say and unironically believe that Jews are responsible for the spread of transphobia and homophobia and all that and need to be eliminated for that reason. (Again, they are genuinely earnest.) If you're a communist it's capitalism and the inverse.

It's always funny how Jews always happen to be behind the thing one doesn't want. They act as if something like feminism is somehow objectively bad despite the billions of non-Jewish people who think the opposite. I am not even necessarily criticizing being anti-feminism but the lack of theory of mind. Like that a Jew couldn't do such a thing simply because they are a liberal, because the far-right can't even model minds outside their own and interpret liberal statements as some sort of front.

the posen speeches prove that germany genocided the jews (there is no concept of attempted genocide in international law)

this however does not mean the holocaust as taught or presented is "real"
as I explained prior the posen speeches and anne frank diary are far too understated to be fakes (which do exist and which germans were executed for)

>>509197808
Yeah, I'm just saying that he was such a terminal psychotic that it's no surprise he didn't like jews, If you locked Stalin in an empty cell for 4 days he would have ordered himself killed.

>>509198065
It's true that the speech does not prove mass murder via gas chambers. But assuming it's real and honest, he says the job is nearly done. Whether it's bullets or gas, does it really matter much? At least a million are known to have been killed by bullets and whether the rest were gassed or shot doesn't change much.

I think the evidence for gas chambers is extremely strong but it doesn't really matter if the end result is still roughly 6 million killed (or 1 million left to die and 5 million killed, or whatever).

>>509198143
here the quote at them if they claim stalin was antisemitic (they can not win this won as the framing is too toxic)

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

J. Stalin
January 12, 1931

pisses of every zioshill and every commie without fail and moves the convo where they can not win

>>509197760
Any German shepherd will do but you'll need to train it yourself using death camp orchestra members.

>>509197993
Posen angle is a theory of exterminationists brought up from the lack of hard evidence.

This debate is fully covered on codoh, the holocaust encyclopedia and all the best research.
See the Dalton / History speaks written debate.

No exterminatoinist can actually defend the holocaust in detail; so they reduce to insult and abuse before too long as OP has done here.

>>509197993
> Feminism and multiculturalism are based, and when far-rightists try to point to Jews supporting such things as evidence of nefariousness I can only think "uh wtf I love Jews now".

Ah yes, make it impossible for the local population to breed and then fucking import migrants by the millions. Totally fucking based (and left wing) when you have central banks pushing this shit to lower wages.

> It's always funny how Jews always happen to be behind the thing one doesn't want. They act as if something like feminism is somehow objectively bad despite the billions of non-Jewish people who think the opposite.

Except that’s changing since you created a generation of 30/40 year old cat moms who will never have kids and the 20 year olds are already starting to panic because wages plummeted so much that they need to work two jobs to share an apartment and the men are not helping them anymore unless they start an onlyfans account (that’s Jewish owned like Pornhub).

It’s funny you say it’s Jews like it’s some schizo accusation when the early life meme exists for a reason.

>>509198208
>Whether it's bullets or gas, does it really matter much?
Yes, because you cunts can't seem to make up your mind on which one is actually true.

>>509189470 (OP)
2/10 bait for the number of replies you got, but you forgot your meme flag

>>509197481
That's the thing in a couple of decades it's going to be nothing more than a myth, one that no one is going to care about anymore.
This whole foundational myth has been created before them but upheld by the Boomers for decades, once they're gone it's just going to crumble away.
>>509197502
Stalin quite literally loved jews, he married only jewish women and had all jewish children.
If he truly hated Jews he wouldn't have gotten so butthurt about Israel choosing the West over the Soviet Union as there vessel state