The Roman Empire was an abomination and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. It subjected countless different civilizations that had basically nothing in common through sheer military and economic power. Not caring much for integration - as fighting more wars to quickly expand the empire was a bigger concern - the foundation of a such an empire became nothing other than multiculturalism. Every province had a different gene pool, spoke a different language, practiced different customs and held different beliefs. In the city of Rome itself lived people that came from all over three continents. By living in such an environment, the originally shared Roman identity and moral decorum rapidly eroded, leading to widespread debauchery, to the rise of foreign religions and to the inception of feminism, all of which poisoned every single Roman institution. Soon enough, mass migrations were happening all over the empire and Rome found itself being ravaged by barbarians, turning from the capital of the world to the grave of the Roman people.
>inb4 muh architecture, muh aqueducts, muh arts!
Yeah, and when the empire fell they were all gone in an instant and people had to go back to live in caves. That's what happens when you build your entire civilization on moral sand.

>>509193245 (OP)
Maybe all the "bad" things you listed were in fact Rome's strengths.
Rome lasted longer than any major empire in history, by far.
It must have been doing something right. Maybe multiculturalism and tolerance are in fact politically expedient values that make for a long-lasting, utterly dominant empire.
When the original Roman population of Italians were done with the empire game, plenty of foreign citizens were ready to take the helm and keep the empire going, since they still believed in it.
It's like how Americans are giving up on American foreign policy while foreigners here, such as Indians, are keeping it going.

>>509193528
Cool, enjoy your Indian empire.

Not reading that cope tome OP. Rome was svper based chvdkino

>>509193245 (OP)
>>509193528
Divide & Conquer thread
rome was good because it was a white ethnostate

ignored
and death to all feds and their nato shill allies

It was weird how ancient Rome had concrete. Then when Rome collapsed, the recipe for concrete was forgotten. How do you forget how how to make the most valuable building material ever?!

>>509193719
High IQ Eastern Roman

>>509193719
based ecchi poster

>>509193245 (OP)
You’re not proud or at least fascinated by what your ancestors did?
I mean, you don’t have to be btw. But I would if I was Italian

>>509193719
>rome was good because it was a white ethnostate
>t. smartest porn addict

>>509193245 (OP)
Rome ended jews pride
Thats all I need to know why they are fucking based
Against nordic niggers and semitic niggers, from cartago to the steppes of ukraine, The german steel march victorius
Roma victrix Fucker

>>509193245 (OP)
Shut up faggot. Rome is based, end of discussion.

>>509193245 (OP)
honestly you're pretty much right. Just a bunch of cut throats vying for raw power over eachother without any sort of philosophy to it. Every bit of culture they had was ripped off the greeks. They were just "power seekers". "decius and allinius made an alliance with maximus for the tribunal censure but then once the censure was obtained decius and maximus betrayed annilius". like fuck whatever faggots.

>>509193953
>Rome ended jews pride
So did the Babylonian, the Egyptians and the Greeks. Yet unlike them, the Jews are still here.

>>509194038
You just described every empire in existance, thats how empires are forged and driven by

>>509194122
other empires had their own culture. rome just took greeces.

The roman "Empire" was the globohomo of their time. The roman republic was actually based and the closest thing to what america used to be. Then the ceasarian party basically made a little french or bolshevik style revolution, however you want to look at it, and they killed off the high quality romans and turned the roman republic it into an "empire" where actual romans had their political power diluted with foreigners so that an elite group of roman haters could control everything.

>>509193245 (OP)
All true. Also, Rome was a disgusting hive of a city where the average pleb lived in a windowless tenement many stories up with no kitchen and no shitter and was a malnourished bug person. Modern globohomo wishes they could keep the goycattle in such conditions.

>>509194092
No they aren't
The jews (phariseans) were genocided due to their insubordination to roman rule, So they ended up fleing Judea (Now recognized as Syria-Palaestina)
Today jews (ashkenazis) are khazar converts who had little in common whit the old temple pharisean jews.
Only mizrahis (who are semitic arabs) can be traced to this, Just like other desert tribes who fleed to arabia.
and the roman empire legacy lives on its culture, lenguage and religion in all southern european countries, not as roman anymore, just like the jews aren't really phariseans anymore.

>>509193245 (OP)
You are so wrong it's incredible.
Rome was so based every proceeding civilization wanted to be them.

>>509194122
Maybe... empires are a bad idea? What's the point of having all that power and all of those cultural and technological advancements, if you cannot even guarantee the survival of your own people?

>>509194270
sometimes i end up thinking about what happened to my 100 generation ago father when he was in the roman empire who he was what he did who he did business with and what decisions did he make that created me if he was a drunk or killed women with rocks or w.e. they did back then or died from poison bcauese u never know exactly how u came to be especially back in the day when food wasnt as scarce as is it now but other controls were implemented idk its fukked up

>>509193245 (OP)
There was before Rome And after Rome. Rome doesn't give a fuck about your feelings. Or anybody elses for that matter. Delenda Est Your Mom.

>>509193245 (OP)
>Every province had a different gene pool, spoke a different language, practiced different customs and held different beliefs.
Based and how it should be.

>>509194165
Rome had its culture, It literally based on the mythological troyan war, This is why romans and greeks aren't to much diferent culturally, even tho greeks often see romans as barbarians, But then changed their minds
>>509194270
empires are created to guarantee the survival of your people of the empire from other rival empires
The roman empire fell because of internal jewing (christianity) barbarian germanic invasions (nordics) and sassanid infinite wars (zaraoastrian persians)
Not to say the third century crisis, if anything can be say wrong about the roman empire, was its slavery system, That was what doomed them, Im often a spartacus supporter because of this

>>509194249
>Today jews (ashkenazis) are khazar converts who had little in common whit the old temple pharisean jews.

A complete lie. Jews spread out across the Roman empire long before IVDEA got Hadrian'd. Many communities existed since the times of Augustus, even before the first rebellion.
The Jewish community of Rome is verifiably over two thousand years old.

>>509193245 (OP)
many posts on pol are either hating on roman empire or trying to say roman empire was all swedish motherfuckers with blonde pubic hair. Make up your mind lmao

>>509193528
>Maybe multiculturalism and tolerance are in fact politically expedient values that make for a long-lasting, utterly dominant empire.
No that's what ruined it and every one knows it. Once there were no Romans in the legions and other pivotal positions within the empire it collapsed. Dilution of citizenship, debasing of currency,moral turpitude, and the lead in the water pipes probably didn't help much.

>>509193245 (OP)

all civilization is degeneracy

>>509194577
I know about judah maccabe was one of the first jews to travel to rome to seeks support, and others would do it merely out of economic benefit, even in the same carthage, yes your punic phoenicians child-sacrificing baal cousins
Jews have a long story in the mediterranean sea, just like the greeks and the phoenicians.

>>509194385
Probably got his head smashed in by my 100 generation ago father when Rome fell. Like a pvssy cvck. He then fucked his wife. So, I might be related to a faggy leaf.

>>509193245 (OP)
The Roman military is actually very overrated in terms of tactical prowess, its core strenght, especially in Republican times, lied in force generation through mass levy and robust industry.compared to eg Alexandrian armies they were far less apt at combined arms and general coordination
Roman Imperial architecture and infrastructure were top notch though, it took centuries to surpass them in full
>>509193953
Rome helped kikes spread through the world by razing their holy city rather than just killing them all, sadly
>>509193871
Tbh Italy from 1000AD onwards achieved even more than Rome ever did. They're a cool part of our history and our first golden age, but by no means superduper important
>>509194578
You can criticize Rome and also note most of them wouldn't have looked phenotypically scandinavian, where is the contradition?

>>509193245 (OP)
based

>>509193788
Roman concrete was self healing. It's part of why there are still roman buildings standing. I think the temple Marcus Agrippa designed and had constructed is a post office or something today.

>>509194577
Josephus was a duplicitous cunt.

>>509193245 (OP)
you're an anglo tourist in Italy

>>509194909
well yeah, that was one big miscalculation of the romans, they didn't end them all entirely, they weren't all fucking evil who would have guessed, They wanted to supress the judean fanatic revolt of sicarii and zealots at the end of the day
The jews were always, always jewing, before the romans arrived, the jews were ploting to kill greeks (the diadoci of alexander)
jews were often in constant wars against the seleucids and ptolemaic dinasty in egypt

>>509194471
The Trojan shit was made up during the reign of Augustus. Before that their origin myth was about being descended from Romulus, the son of Mars who was nursed by a she-wolf with his twin brother Remus, whom he later killed. By the late republic that was seen as kind of barbaric and icky so they started to hellenaboo even harder.

>>509194577
> t. wearing the 2000 year old dead skin mask of a people of child sacrificing demon worshippers that got wiped off the map so hard their only surviving descendants are a genetically crippled mass of inbred pole/russian/turk hybrids that are allergic to the pollen of their supposed homeland

>>509195067
>Race mixing to create Mexicans and Flips
>superior
Sure

>>509193245 (OP)
Yeah. Nords are the best. Go to Bielefeld and check out the statue of Herman. Walk the forest of ancestral memory.

And, remember me, to a girl who lives there, as well, in Battlefield. A west Phalian Deutche girl. For she truly was once, a love of mine.

>>509195075
Yeah they have a consistent track record since they were first recorded lol
>>509195163
The trojan shit is linked to Romulus and Remus, as their mother Rhea Silvia was descended from said Trojan line. Romulus and Remus is just how the story goes on, it was never a standalone myth

In Bielefeld Germany. Not "battlefield", as declared here
>>509195233
In Bielefeld. Germany. West Phalia. Omphalus. Of Teutondom.

>>509195363
>West Phalia
Billions mvst die...

>>509195299
It was literally invented in the reign of Augustus deliberately. A shoehorned connection to the old myth to give it a greater sense of legitimacy does not change that.

>>509194471
In the ancient world Greece was the brains and Rome was the muscle.

>>509195299
this was one of the motivations that led me to read the old testament to see how the jewing begun, and then the babilonian talmud to know how the jewing is mean to be done
>>509195470
pretty much, the greeks were divided and fighted on themselves constantly, The romans on the other side, were at the start just a city, a kingdom, once republic it started expanding
the greeks always had to have an hegemon to do something of note instead of constant fraticide wars

>>509195163
The hero Aeneas was already known to Greco-Roman legend and myth, having been a character in the Iliad. Virgil took the disconnected tales of Aeneas' wanderings, his vague association with the foundation of Rome and his description as a personage of no fixed characteristics other than a scrupulous pietas, and fashioned the Aeneid into a compelling founding myth or national epic that tied Rome to the legends of Troy, explained the Punic Wars, glorified traditional Roman virtues, and legitimised the Julio-Claudian dynasty as descendants of the founders, heroes, and gods of Rome and Troy.

The Aeneid is widely regarded as Virgil's masterpiece and one of the greatest works of Latin literature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeneid

>>509193245 (OP)
>the originally shared Roman identity
you mean larping as greeks?

>>509193245 (OP)
Rome is cool, but I also like the Early Modern Era. Ottomans, Mughals, King Francis I, Henry VIII, and so on.

>>509193245 (OP)
Shut your fucking mouth and show some respect. Rome is the protagonist of world history. It’s no coincidence that the major eras of recorded human history are measured by significant events in the history of Rome. The fall of the west in 476 is the end of classical antiquity and the collapse of the empire as a whole in 1453 is the end of the Middle Ages and the start of modernity

>>509194577
>we wuz phariseans and shiiiet
LMAO

>>509195840
Thanks, chatgpt
>>509196001
That would be the ethnomasochist roman elites of the empire and late republic. They basically saw latin culture as backwards hick shit and desperately wanted to be part of the real high civilization (as they saw it) of the eastern Mediterranean.

>>509195006
Nigga knew how math works that's all

>>509195203
>t. Mutt McMuttson with no roots, culture or history what so ever from a country so divided it's about to fight a second civil war within 150 years.

I get it, your mutt brain can't compute the idea that Jews have been around for 10 times longer than unitedstadians, but that's not my problem.

>>509193245 (OP)
brotaly calm down, some of us are just red blooded denace the menaces and love seeing formations march in unison and crush the opposition like clockwork
it's just cool okay

or more accurately, most people are bluepilled on the true nature of Rome

the yearning of being breed; provided a sense of pride and tramp stamped as a means to bare another mans glory

hot blood that germanics crave; the seminal origin of the cuck fetish that has effectively defined them ever since

>>509196819
everyone took sex slaves of both sexes, stop drinking absinthe you fucking idiot

>>509193245 (OP)
Reductio ad absurdum. You have simplified Europe’s crown jewel to such simpleton levels that I shall not rectify your delusions

>>509195406
Your words have greatly heartened me. Any time you're ready to go to war, let me know.

>>509193245 (OP)

White people don't have anything else. Only italians have th Roman empire, And the Greeks have the ancient Greeks.
Everybody else in Europe has nothing.

That's the reason why you are invited to the White boy table.

>>509196748
Culturally the greeks mogged the latins so they were not wrong. Philosophy, polytheism, mythology, natural philosophy and geometry - all greek centered

>be Italian
>don't understand what the word "Empire" even means
>>509194092
There's more Roman Paganism alive in the world right the fuck now via the Catholic/Orthodox Church than Second Temple Judaism.

>>509196885

the term slave derives from white identity for a reason since that was their afforded lot

>>509193245 (OP)
>Dacia gets conquered by Rome, its male population destroyed, its women raped, its gold plundered, its culture eradicated
>Romanize the region so hard so quickly that we still larp as them 2000 years later
>100 years later, Pax Romana wanes and Goths start raiding across the border
>"umm okay, maybe conquering Dacia was biting off more than we could chew. bye now!"
>*fuck off from Dacia and never come back, abandon the romanized population to their own devices*
If they had left Dacia alone, or even taken it as a subject kingdom instead, the borders would have been much more secure. They might have even been spared Adrianople.

>>509194909
Rome moved away from the phalanx formation to a manapole formation under Marius because of it's limitations. Rome being able to raise armies from the Italian peninsula was definitely part of their prowess but they were the worlds premier fighting force for centuries. Until what was was essentially the ancient version of gorilla warfare highlighted the flaws of the legions.

>>509193245 (OP)
a bit harsh but not entirely unjustified. remember some names (well, at least those of us who paid attention in highschool) Thales, Menelaos, Euclid etc; see a pattern here?
kind of sad, a thousand years of imperial glory and riches and pretty much nothing to show -- except roman law of course. (but the problem with human laws is that they can be abused and will become a mess. poor Theodosius and Justinian know.)