Thread 509196366 - /pol/ [Archived: 740 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 9:16:12 AM No.509196366
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Why are people surprised when right-wing politicians support immigration? Immigration is a right-wing policy. Meloni represents Italian business owners and enterpreneurs that benefit from cheap labor, not the average working person. They will deport a bunch of them for show while allowing 500k of them in.
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Anonymous ID: 4OjXthXNUnited States
7/1/2025, 9:17:07 AM No.509196410
>>509196366 (OP)
Eyetalian brayd
Anonymous ID: UaSKhiWSIsrael
7/1/2025, 9:17:36 AM No.509196440
I want to stick my 5 inch cock in her gabagool pie hole so bad bros.
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Anonymous ID: Wr6b+JXsItaly
7/1/2025, 9:18:07 AM No.509196461
People still believe vooting does anything when all their politicians are groomed and hand-picked
Anonymous ID: JNYlOIciCanada
7/1/2025, 9:18:18 AM No.509196469
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There is no such thing as a right wing party
All democratic parties are jewish, democracy is jewish
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7/1/2025, 9:20:45 AM No.509196579
>>509196366 (OP)
If you support a two party-system left or right you are part of the problem.
No party in the west is anti-immigration.
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Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 9:23:45 AM No.509196701
>>509196469
It's Protestant-led capitalism, not some Jewish conspiracy. Jews just happen to have an ideology that aligns with the interest of Anglo-German protestantism.
>>509196579
This is wrong. The West has no actual left-wing party, they were all destroyed during the 90s. You now have liberal right and conservative right, where the only difference is their stance on trannies and abortion.
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Anonymous ID: JNYlOIciCanada
7/1/2025, 9:27:02 AM No.509196854
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>>509196701
Yeah man I'm sure it's anglo protestants controlling France and Italy
Celine was telling how it was 100 years ago, nothing changed
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Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 9:30:47 AM No.509197016
>>509196854
Capitalism is a system invented by Anglo-Protestants. This system allowed Jews to thrive because they fit in perfectly. Catholic countries where left behind because Catholic ideology rejects money worship.
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Anonymous ID: JNYlOIciCanada
7/1/2025, 9:34:58 AM No.509197208
>>509197016
We don't live in capitalist countries, we live in oligarch countries, you need to already be in the circle to make money, not actually be talented or have good ideas
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Anonymous ID: +FB80hEuUnited States
7/1/2025, 9:36:01 AM No.509197262
>>509196440
The french kike is the problem
Anonymous ID: L535RZQ7Chile
7/1/2025, 9:37:53 AM No.509197359
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>>509196366 (OP)
>Meloni
>mELONi
>IMELON
Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 9:38:57 AM No.509197408
>>509197208
Oligarchy is part of capitalism. Small government allows oligarchy to grow. I don't know why you people keep denying this.
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Anonymous ID: 7gQ1iEcWUnited States
7/1/2025, 9:38:58 AM No.509197412
>>509197208
>We don't live in capitalist countries, we live in oligarch countries
Capitalism leads to oligarchy and monopolies. It's the inevitable end of the competition when certain businesses and families overcome their rivals and assume dominant roles.
Anonymous ID: 7SE+ovIbUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 9:40:22 AM No.509197489
>>509196366 (OP)
>left wing
>right wing
>x ism
>y ism
Who gives a fuck about these gay ass labels?

>hurr durr things you oppose are right wing
Then I'm not right wing. That doesn't magically change anything I believe. Labels are immaterial. I have no attachment to labels. It was you retards who called me "right wing" in the first place. I never self-identified with this term. Me not conforming to a label that *you* branded me with doesn't make me a hypocrite, it just makes you a retard who misrepresented my position and then started believing your own lies.
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Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 9:41:32 AM No.509197547
>>509197489
>word salad
If you shill free market and competition you are right-wing
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Anonymous ID: KdzNPOVZUnited States
7/1/2025, 10:09:55 AM No.509198849
>>509196366 (OP)
They must have her at gunpoint. She rejected all their niggers for months
Anonymous ID: eNsvrR3uUnited States
7/1/2025, 10:31:33 AM No.509199774
Remember when /pol/ was simping for this bitch? See you later when LePen pops back out so you faggots can pretend she's a based and redpill warrior and pulls the same moves here. Honestly you retards deserve to get gypped by these kosher right plants ESPECIALLY the simps who post about muh mommy milkies
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Anonymous ID: 7SE+ovIbUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 10:34:18 AM No.509199913
>>509196701
>The West has no actual left-wing party
First of all "wings" are dumb.

Secondly, I can't agree with this. I understand "leftist" as being synonymous with marxist and post-marxist schools of thought. All major parties in the western world accept the marxist worldview because they all operate within the capitalism vs socialism dialectic, therefore all major parties in the western world are leftist. Self-identified capitalist parties are still marxist parties because capitalism is something that only has meaning within the wider context of marx's historical materialism, Non leftist parties cannot self-identify as capitalist parties without creating a logical contradiction, because this self-identification requires accepting marxism, and accepting marxism makes one a leftist. Of course a non leftist party can create conditions that leftists would describe as capitalistic, but a non-leftist party would not understand their own actions or the consequences of their actions in these terms. A capitalist party is to marx what a "1984-as-an-instruction-manual" party is to orwell, or what a satanist is to christianity. You read marx, orwell, the bible etc, you say "yeah that's how the world works" and then you adopt the role of the bad guy within that worldview. Capitalists are evil leftists, they aren't non-leftists. An example of an actual non-leftist would be someone like ted kaczynski, who seeks to explain the same things as marx etc, but with a completely different theoretical framework.
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Anonymous ID: TPx2mYAl
7/1/2025, 10:34:51 AM No.509199934
>>509199774
never happened. her first action was meeting netanyahu and that's when it was clear to everybody here that she was a fraud.
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Anonymous ID: 7SE+ovIbUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 10:36:55 AM No.509200024
>>509197547
>If you shill free market and competition you are right-wing
I don't. I was always opposed to the free market cult. I was branded "right wing" because I pointed out how open borders, tranny pharma-dependency etc all benefited corporations. The entire reason I support Trump is because of his protectionist tariffs and other anti-free market policies lmao.
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Anonymous ID: 7gQ1iEcWUnited States
7/1/2025, 10:40:58 AM No.509200193
>>509199913
Fancy words, but the concept of capitalism can indeed exist outside a Marxist framework. You're caught up in too many postmodern (or Wittgensteinian) word games.
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Anonymous ID: UR15A23v
7/1/2025, 10:44:32 AM No.509200358
>>509196366 (OP)
hmmm, this creates an interesting explosive situation.
80% of the population in 'it*ly' is against racial replacement but the judeomasonic state doubles down with it.
That destroys this filthy state legitimacy and makes a military coup possible.
A couple of brigades of paratroopers occupying a few buildings in Rome in the name of 'expelling the invaders' would make the entire house of cards to crumble.
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Anonymous ID: 7SE+ovIbUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 10:48:28 AM No.509200559
>>509197408
Because you don't speak the same language but you are operating under the assumption that you do and this creates the illusion of disagreement. 99% of disagreements are just illusions created by linguistic divergence. Most people agree on most issues at the conceptual level. Always assume that the person you are talking to speaks a different language that coincidentally happens to contain all the same words as your language, but doesn't necessarily map them to the same concepts. Arguing over whose definitions, mappings etc are correct is pointless because it's all arbitrary. Linguistic consistency is important, but fighting to establish your favorite convention as the one true convention is a waste of time. Different conventions will always evolve due to different social networks evolving in isolation, and thus you will always need to translate between conventions.
Anonymous ID: 5o/D+XigAustralia
7/1/2025, 10:49:29 AM No.509200597
>>509196366 (OP)
Majority of if not all politicians and their families need to be killed, and the legislative and judicial branches need to be exterminated, leaving an executive dictatorship that basically cleanses everything, forces the entire industrial owner class into absolute submission, imprisoning their families or killing them too, because people are just too far gone and nothing can be done so long as they remain alive.

Just think about it. This is a world were 95% of the population consists of niggers in all their variants, everything is being contaminated and destroyed, the entire planet is turning into a wasteland, and the only people who a worth a damn are within the remaining 5% of the global population, who are being dispossessed and disposed of by these people who genuinely believe an entire planet of slums with a handful of gated communities or city-states is somehow going to work.

Nothing short of mass killing will work.
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Anonymous ID: UR15A23v
7/1/2025, 10:51:35 AM No.509200682
>>509199774
>Remember when /pol/ was simping for this bitch?
A number of misfits sporting a smelly aborted mexican flag are not /pol/.
People like me have repeated endlessly that somebody promoted for years as a strong intelligent independent wahman who doesn't need no man ("but ohhhh she is sooo radical, vote for her if you want real change, LOL") cannot be anything but a ZOGbot.
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Anonymous ID: pFIC5PNsPoland
7/1/2025, 10:51:45 AM No.509200685
>>509196366 (OP)
>meloni
>right wing
Anonymous ID: Z/vmQdxBChile
7/1/2025, 10:54:46 AM No.509200822
>>509196366 (OP)
But anon remember the cuban revolution their motto was patria o muerte, nationality or death

It was never "migration for economical reasons to white countries"

That was the right motto
Anonymous ID: 7tBdO28zCzech Republic
7/1/2025, 10:55:50 AM No.509200856
>>509200597
I agree with this. Peaceful solutions don't exist at this point anymore. Also demockracy was a huge mistake. Ordinary people are unable to govern their daily lives without 10 thousand arbitrary rules given to them by the "elite". Expecting them to make decisions on a national level is just, dare I say, demonic.
Absolute monarchy needs to return to Europe if we, White people, are to survive.
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Anonymous ID: UR15A23v
7/1/2025, 10:57:09 AM No.509200912
>>509200682
* promoted by MSM
The peak was her pregnancy when she was 39. There was an endless MSM coverage of that. Because an unmarried wahman having only one child at 39 is a trad icon, right goyim ?
Anonymous ID: clr6s16tItaly
7/1/2025, 10:58:48 AM No.509200989
>>509200358
>hmmm, this creates an interesting explosive situation.
Nobody will do shit
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Anonymous ID: YSUmrhoCItaly
7/1/2025, 11:00:06 AM No.509201049
>>509199774
It's all fake and gay, they also tried to draw her anime style and push for it after her election victory. No one considers her a nice looking woman here.
Anonymous ID: 7SE+ovIbUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 11:03:09 AM No.509201166
>>509200193
>Fancy words, but the concept of capitalism can indeed exist outside a Marxist framework
Which is why I also included "post marxism". Any non-marxist framework that includes capitalism is a mutation of marxism, and thus part of the leftist branch of the ideological tree of life.

If you aren't interested in learning other peoples' languages then you aren't interested in cooperating with them, and thus you have no grounds to complain that they aren't cooperating with you. The reason "the right" has much greater diversity of thought and much greater support across different sectors of society is because we take time to learn each others' languages so we can avoid pointless conflicts over linguistic illusions. I can translate my beliefs into libertarian language, or into fascist language, or into kaczynskian language, or into whatever language. This enables cooperation because most people agree on most issues and most conflicts have no conceptual basis, they are purely the result of linguistic illusions. It's funny how leftists like to mock americans for being monolingual, when they are the political equivalent. The reason almost everyone outside the narrow sphere of gay millennial humanities students is on "the right" now is because "the right" is politically multilingual while the left only knows how to speak the language of gay millennial humanities students.
Anonymous ID: 5o/D+XigAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:04:49 AM No.509201233
>>509200856
Democracy is bullshit. And voting only ever worked when it was exclusively applied to select White men.

Monarchy doesn't work. Being the descendant of someone great doesn't make you great, and the ability to lead is not hereditary.

Better off with a new racially aligned monarchical-aristocratic Nerva–Antonine dynastic succession personnel base. None of this bloodline bullshit. Make the pool of candidates bigger and don't impede gene flow between the classes otherwise everything ossifies and then they get retarded ideas like "multiculturalism" and "human rights".
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Anonymous ID: 7SE+ovIbUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 11:16:53 AM No.509201752
>>509201233
The chinese system is basically an ethnic supermajority with a non-hereditary monarch.It seems to be working well for them.

>Make the pool of candidates bigger and don't impede gene flow between the classes otherwise everything ossifies and then they get retarded ideas like "multiculturalism"
Multiculturalism has nothing to do with the approach to succession, even traditional hereditary monarchies were generally opposed to it.

Multiculturalism exists because democratic governments are always trying to become undemocratic. No government wants to be a slave to the people, they are always trying to liberate themselves from democracy. Multiculturalism is just one of the many strategies by which democratic governments try to weaken the power of voters. Think of how supply vs demand works in markets. More competition on one side benefits the other side. Democracies work the same way, and can be thought of as a kind of market where votes are the currency used to purchase representation. Voters are the demand side and the political class are the supply side. More competition between voters means more bargaining power for the political class as the dynamic shifts from politicians begging for votes to voters begging for someone to represent them. Multiculturalism is just a way to increase competition between voters. If there's only one culture that needs to be represented then that's low demand-side competition. If there are many competing cultures that all need to be represented then that's high demand-side competition.
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Anonymous ID: jvNNnOZTAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:22:45 AM No.509202003
>>509201233
What you're talking about is national socialism, where the primary purpose of the state was to identify and uplift worthy individuals from the German people to positions of power and leadership, while guarding against parasites and other enemies. Greatness should be drawn from the whole body of the volk.
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Anonymous ID: 5o/D+XigAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:23:41 AM No.509202046
>>509201752
>The chinese system is basically an ethnic supermajority with a non-hereditary monarch.
It isn't. You've got the Red Princes/Nobility, which has it's own internal factions that are constantly fighting, you have the Shanghai clique, then the Communist Youth League, and some generals. It's a complete mess, it always has been, and Xi is on his way out.

Multiculturalism helps them by diversifying the threat against the host population since diverting the locals’ attention to others causes internal strife while diminishing outward projection, all the while demographically displacing them.
Anonymous ID: 5o/D+XigAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:27:33 AM No.509202228
>>509202003
>the primary purpose of the state was to identify and uplift worthy individuals from the German people to positions of power and leadership
That's why states exist regardless. If they're not doing that then they're void.
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Anonymous ID: UR15A23v
7/1/2025, 11:30:29 AM No.509202351
>>509200989
Peasants revolts are impossible but military coups are possible.
Politics must only be about creating an expectation for a military coup. Everything else is a waste of resources and time.
I would be personally strongly against a military coup tho, because I am strictly nonviolent and law abiding.
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Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 11:33:02 AM No.509202485
>>509200024
Trump is not anti free market though. Tariffs haven't been really implemented and illegals working in certain fields haven't been deported because tomatoes ain't picking themselves and farm owners will never pay Americans a living wage unless forced by the state at gunpoint.

MAGAs are retarded because they want small government and capitalism but you cannot have both.
American Democrats aren't left. Their argument for immigration is that you need José to slave away for (you) which is not left.
Anonymous ID: jvNNnOZTAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:37:15 AM No.509202665
>>509202228
Well, evidently not, because the purpose of the thing we can at least say is wearing the skin of the state in every Western country is to serve kikes currently.
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Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 11:40:13 AM No.509202788
>>509202003
National Socialism is corporatism shit, it has nothing to do with uplifiting Germans as a whole.
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Anonymous ID: jvNNnOZTAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:42:22 AM No.509202891
>>509202788
Well you're wrong, but quickly looking through your posts, it looks like you've been comfortable with that for a long time.
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Anonymous ID: M+Om6HCgItaly
7/1/2025, 11:45:44 AM No.509203044
right-wing politicians?

LMAO
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Anonymous ID: 5o/D+XigAustralia
7/1/2025, 11:47:30 AM No.509203128
>>509202665
They're not states but rather fronts for transnational corporations.
Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 11:51:34 AM No.509203320
>>509203044
How is Meloni not right-wing now?
>>509202891
Anyone can look up Nazi economic policies. Rounding up Jews in a camp doing jobs the average German could do at a decent wage is not "uplifiting German people"
Anonymous ID: gBl3cBWjRussian Federation
7/1/2025, 11:52:37 AM No.509203375
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>>509196366 (OP)
0/10 no tail.
Anonymous ID: YPwnBqKo
7/1/2025, 11:53:34 AM No.509203414
>>509196366 (OP)
Neo-liberalism needs immigration to function; cheap labour to depress wages and enable more money to flow to the rich.

Hayek's core idea was to turn the working and middle classes into serfs to ensure the rule of the elite. Hayek claimed welfare from two countries because he was part of the elite, and thus deserving of handouts.
Anonymous ID: H+VzDuZCCanada
7/1/2025, 11:54:29 AM No.509203462
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>>509196469
Trvth Nvke
Anonymous ID: YPwnBqKo
7/1/2025, 11:57:21 AM No.509203590
>>509199934
The same Netanyahu who has openly stated he wants to dump Palestinians, Syrians, etc, into Europe.
Anonymous ID: ecXXCyxtItaly
7/1/2025, 11:58:32 AM No.509203649
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>>509196366 (OP)
Our based far right fascist kosher pm they will Totally stop the boats and send everyone back everyone
Anonymous ID: 1tvYoJiyFinland
7/1/2025, 11:58:55 AM No.509203667
>>509196701
No Shlomo, its a jewish conspiracy.
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Anonymous ID: TV4hTwMF
7/1/2025, 12:01:45 PM No.509203796
>>509203667
Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy? Almost every developed or almost developed country that operates on capitalism is facing the same issue of government importing foreign workers to avoid raising wages for the natives.
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Anonymous ID: 7gQ1iEcWUnited States
7/1/2025, 12:31:39 PM No.509205307
>>509203796
>Capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy? Almost every developed or almost developed country that operates on capitalism is facing the same issue of government importing foreign workers to avoid raising wages for the natives.
Excellent point
Jews did not invent capitalism. They are just well suited to capitalist society and thrive in it.
Anonymous ID: jmpbTh0jItaly
7/1/2025, 12:51:48 PM No.509206357
>>509202351
tranny lombardy is a delusional fantasy for retards like you and sizzi
2 moar weeks fgt
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Anonymous ID: N1vhRKwGCanada
7/1/2025, 1:30:22 PM No.509208286
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Anonymous ID: HZxQMPWACanada
7/1/2025, 1:31:11 PM No.509208327
literally die
literally die
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>>509208286
KILL YOURSELF JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH (BAN-EVADING ARGENTINIAN (Barneyfag)).
I'M NOT EVEN JOKING, I WANT TO SMASH YOUR FUCKING HEAD RIGHT OPEN SO THAT NOTHING REMAINS OF IT AND I DON"T HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOUR EXISTENCE, YOU WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH. IF I KILLED YOU TOMORROW, THEN THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD SATISFY ME BEFORE MY EVENTUAL DEATH. NOTHING I WANT TO SEE MORE THAN ME CRUSHING YOUR FUCKING SKULL, TEARING YOUR FUCKING EYES, BEATING YOU UNTIL YOU'RE A LIFELESS FUCKING CARCASS, AND THEN GUTTING, DISMEMBERING AND GRINDING YOU UP UNTIL I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE WORLD IS FREED FROM YOUR EVIL, YOU FUCKING WASTE OF LIFE, YOU FUCKING DEGENERATE SUBHUMAN, COLLECTIVE OF THE WORST FUCKING SCUM ON THE PLANET
Anonymous ID: LPAyNtSS
7/1/2025, 1:35:44 PM No.509208586
niggas be retarded and shit
Anonymous ID: UR15A23v
7/1/2025, 1:47:39 PM No.509209208
>>509206357
a military coup with the aim of kicking out the third world invaders would give ethnic Lombards at least a generation more of survival.
That would not solve the problem of the Siculo-neapolitan colonization of settlement in Lombardy but it is the only thing that realistically can be done today.
Anonymous ID: ftfzmt/MUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 1:51:40 PM No.509209417
>>509196366 (OP)

Send the blackest niggers to breed with the Mafia bitches.