>>509197571 (OP)
modern doctors are just glorified insurance adjustors

their first job is to minimize cost to the insurance so the hospital can stay afloat.
anything else is secondary

>>509197571 (OP)
>and she's a doctor
LARP.

>>509197571 (OP)
Why’d you cut off the Subreddit? Would it undermine whatever point you’re trying to make?

>>509197723
nice reading comprehension retard

>>509197571 (OP)
doctors deserve 0 respect you should talk to doctors like a slower and more expensive, less effective form of google because they are.

>>509197571 (OP)
Men under 30 are ignored completely but maybe it changes in old age. I also expect her mother is full of shit for real. Women go to the Doctors for a stubbed toe, they love it. If a man is in a doctors office it’s probably already terminal.

>>509197697
It's the opposite, hospitals inflate medical bills to try and screw over insurance companies as much as they can. The cost then gets carried by all the people who pay premiums. The insurance industry has low profit margins.

>>509197776
I didn't even notice
That important to ya?

>>509197571 (OP)
if you don't sue them, they don't learn.

>>509197571 (OP)
US medical doctors are the new priest class. Medical school is rite of passage for rich kids who only need to be present to pass

>>509197856
>>509197697
It's more accurate to say they cooperate to drain the goyim out of as much money as possible.

>>509197571 (OP)
>and she's a doctor
so the problem is that women mostly see women doctors
and women are horrible doctors?

>>509197571 (OP)
There is no way women are treated remotely worse than men in this whipped society

>>509198026
thought-terminating worldview

>>509197856
>The insurance industry has low profit margins.
Hah good one.

>>509198163
Maybe you should try learning about a thing before you give an opinion on it.

>>509197856
>low margins
Anyone that tells you about a business's margins is pulling your prick.
Insurance is a scam propped up by interest groups.

Physicians aren't entirely innocent, though.

>>509197846
Men go when they're pissing blood and their arm is a bloody stump. Women go to chat about star alignment.

>>509198304
You know they just lie right? Who's gonna stop them? The government that they payed for?

>>509198523
Sure bro just make up your own facts to suit your preconceived notions. Quality political discussion right there.

>>509197856
>>509198026

Yes you're both right. The hospital works with the insurance companies so they can get as much money as possible from the insurance but make sure not to charge too much so the insurance keeps their desired margins.
A hospital's true customer is the insurance (not you) because the insurance is the one paying (not you). Then whatever extra money they need to make up from treating other people, they overcharge the taxpayer (or goyim...whatever you wanna call them) through medicaid and medicare.
that's why people who try to pay out of pocket can never get a legit price for any services because the hospital just makes it up as they go depending on who's paying and to cover their expenses.

to me whats really outrageous are the bloated salaries of doctors and nurses

>>509197571 (OP)
Because women are fucking retards that will tell you every fucking shit imaginable but not what is the core of the problem.
Eventually i learned womaneze and developed hate for them like you wouldnt believe.
>t. GP for 15 years

>>509197571 (OP)
Bitch has moon madness, dunk her in the lake

Women go to the doctor for every little thing.

Men rarely go to the doctor, and often wait until it needs immediate attention.

Therefore a man should be taken more seriously as he's likely not there for even moderate pain. Most men will take over the counter pain killers for years before even thinking of seeing a doctor.

>>509197795
He writes like a woman and reiterates the doctor is a doctor, who the fuck does that? A woman, thats who.

You read the rest of that bullshit, effeminate, faggotry? He is letting his geriatric mother fend for herself at doctors appointments? What purpose does he have being there at all?!

>>509197571 (OP)
Women LOVE being felt up by creepy men when there is nothing wrong with them. Kind of like you guys really.

>>509198304
>whips out the GPT
>see this is all verified and fact checked by multiple sources

you are so fucking god damn pants on head retarded. But then again, this is what your flag is know for.

>>509198304
>Oh nooooo think about the poor insurance industry shareholders
There's a reason why the only good insurance system is the cooperative one.

>>509198646
I can't even imagine that, doc bro. Can you elaborate?

I remember I went to the doctor like two years ago from throat pain I've been having for months.

I pointed to where it hurt, how long it's been going on, and what makes it worse. That's it.

What do women do for say a similar situation?

I take women seriously. But they have psychosomatic diseases extremely often, so it's hard to take them seriously when they come with weird and conflicting symptoms, and a history of interstitial cystitis or POTS.
I can't count how many times I had to send a female patient to the MRI because she shows bullshit neurological symptoms that I can't legally ignore. Women coming to the ER thinking they have a heart attack, when in fact they are having a panic attack is extremely common too.
They are also very annoying because they read the full list of undesirable effects of any medication you give, and then come back 1 week later because they got all of them (well only the ones you can't objectively verify of course... Nausea, headaches etc)
t. resident physician

>>509198970
>What do women do for say a similar situation?

>look! it hurts when i do this!
>It usually feels like....
>my friend said that she also had....
>i suggest you prescibe me some xanax cuz I definatly have x

women are fucking stupid, going to doctors aint fixin that

>>509198880
You don't know anything about this topic. This is the problem with democracy, Mohammed. It gives you and I an equal vote.

>>509197846
>If a man is in a doctors office it’s probably already terminal
True in the countryside.
Untrue in cities. Men in cities are huge pussies that cry when the nurse tries to draw blood

>>509197571 (OP)
Women are annoying hypochondriacs.

A guess I'd like to make public while being screened by the doc ITT >>509198646 if at all possible:
>bet you the mom was fat

>>509199155
you stupid fucking per capita ignoring idiot.

3% of net worth of all health insurance companies = (2,10 Trillion dollars$ (2024) / 100)*3
>
10% of net worth of US software companies = (320 Billion$ (2025) /100) *3

not every fat fuck in the US of assholes needs a windows 11 loicense. but every fat fucking mcfatfat mcmuttmerican needs faggot ass health insurance

>>509198646
>tell you every fucking shit imaginable but not what is the core of the problem
well, figuring that out is YOUR fucking job dipshit
>these assholes have the gall to walk into my office and not tell me what is wrong with them!

>>509198970
This is compared to men
Men pinpoint whats wrong with them and most of guys self check prior events they did that possibly led to the state they are in.
So you have semidecent backstory of their trouble and trouble itself, checks can be done in 5 min you basically cant go wrong with them.
Woman keeps her women retardation of she cant do no wrong even at checkup and when thats the case you just fuck her off with whatever shit she wants to hear unless she visibly looks ill

>>509197571 (OP)
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=enby
Down vote this!

>>509199577
>unless she visibly looks ill

this is where the retardation kicks in again, because they cake themselves up beyond recognition when they are leaving the house for the doctors office

This isn't just a woman thing. If you're a guy, they won't take you seriously if you're anything listed:
Overweight
Don't dress well
Aren't groomed well
Autistic
Mental health issues

Feel free to add to the list if you have any personal experiences.

>>509197571 (OP)
My grandad was a doctor and he would mention that female patients were by far generally more anxious, fearful, sceptical or even outright reluctant to accept his medical opinion and willing to interject his explanations with their own suggestions they'd read in magazines or watch on TV. He claimed they were generally also less mindful of his time and would yap on for the entire day if he let them, so he had to essentially take steps to keep the actual conversation to a minimum, because he couldn't just outright tell them to shut the fuck up.

Still, a lot of doctors have massive egos, and they will treat you like shit until you give a bit of lip back and tell them that a monkey with a bottle of paracetamol could do 90% of their job. Give them as much respect as they give you back.

>>509199415
The disputed line was about profit margins. Your (erroneous) computation of total ROI is irrelevant and silly. That said, feel free to compare to hospital ROI.

>>509199786
Yeah, if they don't want to fuck you, you generally get treated like shit, but that's just life in general.

>>509198304
you're right insurance are the good guys. cutting costs to consumers at the expense of their own financial gain.

>>509198439
I already knew this in high school when I heard the nurse saying she sees overwhelmingly more female students.

>>509199921
Are you saying it would be more optimal for male doctors to be gay? I'd probably get insanely good treatment if I was a good looking guy and my doctor was gay, even if he was married because you know how gays are. I'm not gay I'm just thinking about how to optimize my healthcare.

>>509197571 (OP)
>going to the doctors after them wanting to kill you during Covid
Lol. Lmao. ROFLMFAO even!

>>509199996
There are no good guys. Government subsidizes employer-sponsored health insurance and creates a bad system. Insurance participates in that system. Physicians and hospitals get filthy fucking rich by scamming that system.

>>509199999
Kids used to go to the nurse for cough drops because it was the closest thing to candy you could have at my school. It was pretty much always girls, though.
>>509200070
Checkups are important, anon. Even if you're completely healthy. In the event you're in an accident, having a history of your medical history is really useful for doctors. I 100% agree with the anti-mrna vaccine movement, though. That shit is fucking dangerous and the covid vaxx is probably one of the worst things to ever happen at a global level.

>>509199999
Holy numbers.

>>509197723
fucking memeflag
witches are real bigot
BIG OOF #fagboi

>>509199851
This but stronger.
Virtually all docs are too weak to humble themselves against the God complex they play up

Women cannot maintain healthy lives outside of marriage or other responsibility.

>>509199023
>interstitial cystitis or POTS
more redpills please
I know a man with pots, he has to stand up at 1/50 speed like one of those jap robot dancers or he faints

>>509197997
Please elaborate share your story

>>509199415
>>509199890
This is what happens when you engage someone talking about profit margins -- they are just pulling your prick.

The margins mean almost nothing. Actually, profitable businesses with thin margins are damning evidence of malfeasance.

>>509197571 (OP)
>women doctor discriminate women patient who isnt young and pretty
you mom be attention whore bud

>>509199023
wuts fibromyalgia?

>>509203210
It's not really well known, but it has something to do with nerve pain and it might be an autoimmune disorder. My sister supposedly has it. It's like chronically inflamed nerves.

>>509197571 (OP)
Because they have no tail.

>>509197571 (OP)
because women are simply not to be taken seriously.
they are hysterical emotional beings and 90% of what they say is factually untrue.
if you'd treat every woman according to what she told you, you'd quickly be in jail for medical malpractice.

>>509198304
Nice one bro. It's as if there aren't different types of insurance companies. That don't have different probabilities. And can be researched, without jewgtp. What a disengenuous cocksucker.

>>509203498
They ought to come with their husband leading and speaking to the doc like in isIam

>>509205275
There sure are, and I added another source for you already. >>509199155 Try disproving me if you think I'm being "disingenuous." You won't be able to because I'm relating a verifiable truth.

>>509205275
I Read this
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>>509202760
They don't care what the numbers mean. They are going to keep gaslighting you with meaningless statistics. They are full of shit, so you should just ignore them.

>>509199166
>Untrue in cities. Men in cities are huge pussies that cry when the nurse tries to draw blood
Because men in the city are muzzrat and niggers.
They're proto trannies, taller women with small dicks.

>>509197571 (OP)
its hard enough to get men to the doctor at all, to reject them when they go is almost murder

>>509197571 (OP)
Women receive the vast majority of healthcare spending and overwhelmingly have better healthcare outcomes, the majority of med school graduates and nurses are women. It's amazing to me that men are the ones actually being discriminated against in the healthcare system, but women have managed to gaslight themselves into thinking it's them instead. Shit, ask any man who's ever tried to get bloodwork done for anything other than cholesterol.

>>509197571 (OP)
imagine having 50 of these retards per day, id go insane.

>>509208334
thats nice roasty but women are too stupid and lazy to become doctors.
>Ewww thats too much work i can just fuck the doctor and his money is my money
WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING WORTHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>509208458
KILL YOURSELF JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH (BAN-EVADING ARGENTINIAN (Barneyfag)).
I'M NOT EVEN JOKING, I WANT TO SMASH YOUR FUCKING HEAD RIGHT OPEN SO THAT NOTHING REMAINS OF IT AND I DON"T HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOUR EXISTENCE, YOU WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH. IF I KILLED YOU TOMORROW, THEN THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD SATISFY ME BEFORE MY EVENTUAL DEATH. NOTHING I WANT TO SEE MORE THAN ME CRUSHING YOUR FUCKING SKULL, TEARING YOUR FUCKING EYES, BEATING YOU UNTIL YOU'RE A LIFELESS FUCKING CARCASS, AND THEN GUTTING, DISMEMBERING AND GRINDING YOU UP UNTIL I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE WORLD IS FREED FROM YOUR EVIL, YOU FUCKING WASTE OF LIFE, YOU FUCKING DEGENERATE SUBHUMAN, COLLECTIVE OF THE WORST FUCKING SCUM ON THE PLANET

women love attention, told what to do if its a authority figure and sucking up to said authority figure so they go to doctors for every little shit

in contrast when a guy visits a doctor you know something is wrong

>>509197571 (OP)
The mom is a crazy bitch, and the doctor sees it right away.

>>509197571 (OP)
Maybe it's because a man visits doctor once a decade, and a woman visits a doctor once a week.

>>509197571 (OP)
My mother is a witch. Every woman I know believes in astrology and bs in general.

How are you supposed to take women seriously? Women are demented morons.

>>509208565
hypochondriacs are a notorious frustration for doctors, what a lot of women, particularly fat women, don't realize is that doctors have the same decision tree as tech support, their first move is to tell you to do the thing that fixes 90% of cases like yours, then if that doesn't work move on to the next thing.

To put it in perspective this is like the Jeet from tech support asking you "is the computer monitor on?" but you refuse to check and insist he run a super deep scan because you're confident you've been hacked by Russian cybercriminals, and of course the monitor was in fact just unplugged.

>>509198304
>kek
Also 10% for moving money around

Because women are hypochondriacs. On top of this there is also men giving their own issues or just living with them and not visiting the doctor. Women are the inverse

>>509197571 (OP)
Who is the common denominate?
The doctors of the mother?
That being said I lost trust in doctors since oh I don’t know… 2020.

>>509197571 (OP)
Based. Trust the experts until the experts don't agree with you. The answer she's looking for also is that a lot of doctors are from foriegn conservative cultures that place far less importance on female issues than we do in the west.

>>509198642
>insurance keeps their desired margins
Medical insurance is mandated in the US that it can only make 10% profit any year. Any profit above that must go back to paying for medical care. They also have the numbers game mastered with their actuaries.
> Hospital’s true customer is insurance
You are responsible for making sure the hospital gets paid, including knowing your coverage
>overcharge the tax payer
To get paid from assistance programs, the hospital has to agree to be an in network provider, and in doing so accept the government’s fee schedule, which is way smaller that what they can charge a private party. Every MA patient is treated at a loss and that cost is made up by over charging private parties.
>bloated salaries
It costs $300K plus to go to med school, not to mention it takes 8 years of not working and not saving for retirement to get there, and then a 3-4 year residency where they make like 70K a year getting worked like a slave. They unironically need to make that much, or only retards lacking basic math skills would go into it.
>tldr you have no clue what you’re talking about.

>>509198646
I took my gf to hospital and as a britbong we were in there for hours. By the time we saw the doctor she told him the pain had died down, which is basically a licence for the doctor to tell you to fuck off. He shortly dismissed her without even looking into the cause of the delibiltating pain she was experiencing. When I asked her why she didn't just lie and say she was still in a lot of pain so the doctor would actually do something for her, she said I wanted an accurate diagnoses so I gave him the correct information. Honestly infuriated me so much.

>>509197571 (OP)
fuck doctors and their scams, i just pee on my wounds and i'm fine

>>509208783
The 10% is for other types of insurance, not medical. Managing medical excess is also a non-trivial amount of work, not that they do a very good job of keeping them down.

>>509209203
Solid post anon, except for justifying excessively high salaries. Doctors make far too much and competition is kept low through licensure.

>>509208640
This is likely a big part of it.
If a man shows up at all, something is wrong. Even if they are good on routine visits, if a man MENTIONS something on those visits, something is wrong.
Also
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg

At some point doctors probably just turn cynical and bitter.

>>509197571 (OP)
Feminist fanfiction. You can safely disregard

>>509197571 (OP)
>Why do doctors discriminate against women?
men go to the doctor when it's serious and specific
women go to the doctor to get attention and "be heard out"

>>509209281
the number one rule to getting treatment at the ER is to say you're nauseous, your head is spinning, etc.
you have to play up your symptoms and make them seem potentially life-threatening
otherwise you'll wait 7 hours for an ibuprom

>>509197571 (OP)
>Front line workers
LMAO fucking liberals and their retarded pandemic speak. Frontline of what, having a toddler sneeze on you?

>>509210486
This is the general reality. Or just because they got told one to go for a yearly checkup and follow orders. My mom though hates doctors so much she didnt go until she was nearly dead. Which is the opposite end of annoyingly stupid.

>>509197697
their first job is to farm patients by dragging along treatment/diagnosis

have issue:
doc has 3 options:
option 1: 30% chance of success, costs 800 dollars, risk is 0.002%
option 2: 50% chance of success, costs 1400 dollars, risk is 0.004%
option 3: 90% chance of success, costs tree fiddy, 0.005% risk

they will prescribe/pursue in that order because they dont want to 'put unnecessary risk' on the patient
its all for your own good goy

>>509198304
The rest of those industries actually deliver a product (at least besides financial services). Insurance are just rent-seeking middlemen skimming off the top. With that in mind, those margins are way higher than they should be

>>509210109
He's right about the salaries thoughbeit. Medical school is insanely expensive and then you spend upwards of like 8 years residency depending on your specialization where you barely make more than minimum wage, given that you're typically working 80hrs/week during that time.

A big issue is that it's already not really worth it for normal americans to even bother becoming doctors. On average they don't even break even on student loans until their mid 40s. That's why so many doctors you see nowadays are pajeets and chinks, etc.

Doctor salaries are a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of medical costs. In spirit I wouldn't be against lower salaries, but that would also need to be coupled with overhauling the AMA and reducing the cost (both financial as well as time) of becoming a physician to make it worthwhile. Because otherwise the jeet problem would only get 1000% worse

>>509212296
I partly agree in that ideally the insurance industry wouldn't exist, but in reality someone has to counterbalance doctors' greed.
Financial services are probably the best thing to compare insurance to and insurance profit margins are obviously much lower.
>>509212851
>He's right about the salaries thoughbeit.
No, he's not. Becoming a doctor is guaranteed to get you pretty rich, which it need not be. The excessive expense and requirements are a feature to keep out competition in the profession.
>given that you're typically working 80hrs/week during that time
An insanely irresponsible practice that ought to bring outrage to the public. We should be demanding reform to the medical training and licensure programs.
>Doctor salaries are a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of medical costs. In spirit I wouldn't be against lower salaries, but that would also need to be coupled with overhauling the AMA and reducing the cost (both financial as well as time) of becoming a physician to make it worthwhile. Because otherwise the jeet problem would only get 1000% worse
Ah well it turns out we agree in the last paragraph

>>509197571 (OP)
People act as if we havent been interacting with women all our lives.

Women always complain about being tired or having a headache or this and that when in reality they sleep like shit, they dont drink water and they eat like shit.

>>509208504
Not really woman a re overwhelmingly becoming doctors due to academia being rigged against men

And also veterinarians are majority woman
Once field becomes dominated by woman the men leave

>>509209367
Heard your country has 70% female doctors how is the situation rus annon

>>509213286
AI will soon replace all trash to mid doctors. Its inevitable

>>509197571 (OP)
Doctors discriminate against everybody. It’s just part of their cold calculus. They no longer view human beings as humans. They are made to slice up bodies in med school regardless of if they’re becoming surgeons in order to change their psyche.

>>509213357
I say you are probably right, but the medical professionals would still demand they have administrative role in this so they can keep their prestige

I read here medical professionals are the only ones who would benefit from ai since most of their hard work is moved on to the ai

>>509197571 (OP)
Women will just talk and talk, not listen etc..

>>509197571 (OP)
The explanation is provided in the post and makes perfect sense. Anyone who disagrees that old women aren't panicky busy body retards is a woman themselves

Fuck doctors, generally speaking, but handling the Karen demographic like this makes perfect sense

>be man
>tell doctor symptoms
>get prescription
>take it
>repeat if necessary
VS
>be woman
>tell doctor 5-minute backstory of what you were going right before you felt the first symptom
>walk that back saying but maybe it was nothing or just an off day
>keep telling the doctor symptoms in 5 minute story chunks
>keep asking "but what about" regardless of prescription
Yeah I wonder who the doctor will want to treat more of

>>509198523
Put your god damn mouth on the curb leaf.

>>509198880
Imagine being so religious that having your world view shattered destroys you.

>>509197571 (OP)
Ita not a gender thing. If you see a psychiatrist or therapist or have any kind of psychiatric care or medication then doctors will often not take any of your physical ailments seriously, it will all be disregarded as psychological even if it's not, even if the lack of treatment will lead to your death.

>>509213286
sounds about right, administrative jobs also combine it with over 90% female teachers and basically your whole life is trailing from one deranged cunt to another

>>509199023
>They are also very annoying because they read the full list of undesirable effects of any medication you give, and then come back 1 week later because they got all of them (well only the ones you can't objectively verify of course... Nausea, headaches etc)
Most drugs you prescribe are pure unadulterated garbage thoughever, so that last point is well deserved

>>509197571 (OP)
>Female Doctor
>Female Patient
Women hate women mystery solved.

>>509199155
It just cant be man, I mean reddit and the whole system insist that they make like 90% profit! It just has to be true.

>>509199639
>retardation kicks in again

Says the clearly not German fuck being a complete retard.

>>509199890
>Your (erroneous) computation of total ROI is irrelevant and silly.

This, in real life he would deserve a swift blow to the face.

>>509202760

Fucking leftists just think every business is swimming in millions.

>>509198646
>every fucking shit imaginable
Like their symptoms? Isn't that what they're supposed to do?
>womaneze
kek

>>509214953
>Womanzee.

Do none of you posting have a mother?
What is wrong with you?

>>509215439
Oh noes you cannot notice reality if you have a mother!

>>509215439
Nah, never replied to "your mom will die in her sleep tonight" posts. rip mommy

>>509197571 (OP)
because middle aged and elderly women lie and waste everyones time about everything for attention they know they can't get any other way

>>509197571 (OP)
Something probably happens when you take them to the mechanic.

>>509197571 (OP)
The doctor is speaking from experience and is away 90% of female problems are imaginary. Munchausen syndrome

>>509215649
Yes

The young women become doctors and all quit, and none are good

Medical school needs to take half the time, be free and compensated by reducing the prestige and salary after

>>509197571 (OP)
>have phimosis
>doctor insists on mutilating my dick
>fix it by doing stretching exercizes instead
Fuck those ghouls.

>>509197571 (OP)
>reddit
Commit suicide op

>>509197571 (OP)
I have a degree in chemistry. The people that struggled in my classes were all premed. I haven't trusted a medical doctor since college.

every woman i know goes to the 'doctor' a handful of times -sometimes dozens- of times a year.

i havent been 'to the doctor' in 6+ years. and last time i went it was to the emergency room because of a construction accident where i had to get multiple stitches above my eye. my father hadnt been to the doctor in 30+ years before he went recently this year because he is not 80 years old and having legitimate heart issues.

my sister goes to checkups 'just cause'. she goes to the walk in clinic if she has a cold. she sees 5 different specialists every year(on top of her gyno) plus has weekly therapists appointments. i have to drive her out of state to specialists doctors multiple times a year. oh you have a tummy ache cause you eat trash fast food all day? better go to that gastro doctor 10 times a year and take a handful of pills every day! oh your back hurts because you sit on your ass all day and dont exercise? better go to that neuro doc and beg for pain pills! oh you stubbed your toe? better go to the emergency room!


women 'go to the doctor' whenever they 'feel bad'. men go to the doctor when they are actually injured/in danger.

should men go to the doctor more? sure. probably.

but women should go way fucking less.