Thread 509204975

Do you also get the impression of a higher prevalence of narc behaviours nowadays?

Somehow there are quite a lot of them!

How do you effectively deal with them as autists?

My gut reaction is to hit them with a sledgehammer, but that is obviously not very practical!

What tactics and what strategies work for you and what doesn't work?

Your experiences would be greatly appreciated as I would like to emulate what works!

Also article:

https://psychcentral.com/health/types-of-narcissism

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>>509204975 (OP)
VPN jew.

youre a loser if youre not narcissistic nowadays. the inherent servile instinct in 95% of the population makes them adore narcissists.

>>509205046

Oh no, certainly not! Proof picrel!:)

>>509204975 (OP)
>How do you deal with narcissists?
You stay away from them anon.

If you expose them or piss them off, they will gather a team of flying monkeys and make your life hell. I lost my job because of this, only I was too naive at the time to realise what narcissism was and how it works.

>>509204975 (OP)
Stay away from normies. If you must be near them, just ignore everything they say. Only speak when spoken to. And most importantly, never ask them about anything, they will find a way to make it about themselves.

>>509205314
based knower

>>509204975 (OP)
Subtly imply they are fucked in the head. Make them read between the lines of your words. The unspoken totally fucks with them.

>>509205059

Thanks for your response!

IMHO some kind of neurotypical NPC dysfunctionality or defect lets them select, opt or tolerate for overconfident conman types as their pack leaders who then engulf the masses in their shared fantasy like hitler did with his volk larping! Something like that!
Could that be accurate?

Although I doubt that someone would adore covert or collapsed narcs, though, meaning not all types, only the overconfident conman displaying types.

However I fully agree with you about social media, many people who have an urge to expose themselves there do not appear to be that healthy and while one does not acquire NPD in later life a narcissistic style and the related behavioural traits, meaning subclinical symptoms can be acquired by position, role, exposure, surroundings, fame, fortunes, something which many youtubers appear to become once they become more add money fattened up!

>>509205555
>Subtly imply they are fucked in the head. Make them read between the lines of your words. The unspoken totally fucks with them.

Now, that is a very interesting thought! I had never considered using implicit, suggestive communication open to interpretation and laced with double meanings, as I find that kind of approach somewhat distasteful; it feels imprecise somehow.

However, speaking from personal experience, covert narcissists are truly troubled in the mind! Many of them employ completely subverted or inverted speech patterns which most people fail to decode in time. Some kind of palindromic speech! Their language is laced with passive, covert, and latent aggressiveness in so many layers that it is absolutely repugnant.

They often come across as foolish or humble, but they are, so to speak, wolves in sheep’s clothing. They lay out communication traps, implying but never explicitly stating what they think or wish to say, leaving others to interpret their meaning—only to use those very interpretations against them. As soon as one attempts to respond constructively, they grow aggressive and start to push. Truly repulsive, devilish creatures!

Thank you very much for recommending that tactic! I will study the psychological background and mimic and reflect their behaviours right back at them! That is a very good idea as the tactic you recommended would most likely work very well against covert narcs! Good idea, thank you very much!

>>509205824
yea hitler qualifies too. im not sure why, centuries of feudalism maybe or something more inherent to human nature, but most people are completely happy being sheep to a herder, as long as they have some personal sympathy toward the herder, which narcs are great at garnering.

>>509205555
this doesnt work on narcs, they dont care what you think of them, they just modify their mode of operation when dealing with you since theyre aware that youre aware of their nature

>>509205314

I am so sorry that happened to you, they are truly evil demons!

Well intended and constructive, ethically behaving individuals usually do not get to know about such fucked up and completely twisted, highly disturbed thought patterns and the maliciousness and ruthlessness these soulless hulls, who only outwardly resemble humans, tend to display.

There is a subtype of covert narc who exclusively uses other people to cause harm to their target, meaning the narc remains in the background and lets his minions, the flying monkeys do his evil deeds. It is like a demon with his own swarm ob subdemons, a form of gangstalking basically.

I got the cops called on me by such a type as described and had the great pleasure of one of the cops being a covert narc too. These creatures gather at positions where pay is acceptable and where they don't have to do much work and where they feel protected and where they can exert control. It is truly disgusting, they are interspecies predators!

I wish you all the best! May your Narc radar and defense remain sharp and alert!

>>509206933
*its

>>509206563
>yea hitler qualifies too...

Interesting thought!

Hitler definitely had NPD, probably of the overt, grandiose and possibly even malignant typus. His upbringings caused that. The number one rule for narcissists amounts to no matter their accomplishments, they will always destroy them afterwards! Like Hitler did with the third Reich by attacking the Soviet Union and not England (the land based american aircraft carrier at the shores of Europe) first!

That herder complex could possibly be either a patriarchal mother/father projection or a evolutionally acquired trait to opt for a pack leader, like with a group of chimps. This psychological need for order gets exploited by the parasite class in charge or by skilled parasitic psychologies like narcissists are, like an evolutionary relict in modern times.


>>>509205555
>this doesnt work on narcs, they dont care what you think of them, they just modify their mode of operation when dealing with you since theyre aware that youre aware of their nature

It is correct that narcissists usually don't see others, thus they do not care or think about others, but most of them care about what they want to extract from others, thus just IMHO one would have to basically stall them (for them to lose interest) and cause confusion by remaining unresponsive and dominant since narcissism is a pathopsychology of weakness, as the pack order amounts psychopathy>narcissism.

Many narcissists want to replace objective reality with their own subjective reality because that is all they have, thus one has to remain strong and unyielding and never interpret for them and or do anything them, basically treat them as objects as they tend to objectify others too all the time. However I could be wrong there too, best is to have nothing to do with them if possible!

>>509205434
>Stay away from normies. If you must be near them, just ignore everything they say. Only speak when spoken to. And most importantly, never ask them about anything, they will find a way to make it about themselves.

Thank you so much for the above suggestion! IMHO that is a very good approach!

Many people indeed have a tendency to make things about themselves and what they want and since many of them just think in zero sum games they are takers, thus for them to make things about themselves amounts to the suppression of others by trying to exert and impose their will onto others.

That does not seem to be a typus which would be compatible with peaceful coexistence. Unfortunately one does need a lot of funds to successfully isolate oneself from such types.

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>>509204975 (OP)
Its not more people are narcs its that you are an insufferable faggot. when you find the time you should kys

>>509208423
>Its not more people are narcs its that you are an insufferable faggot. when you find the time you should kys

Why? What did I do wrong? I am alright with you calling me an insufferable faggot and that may very well be completely warranted when viewed from your point of view, given your awareness, experiences and perspective, nonetheless I would appreciate it very much if you could perhaps share some suggestions about what to do or change to UN-become such an insufferable faggot! That would be worth knowing from my perspective! Thank you very much for your response!

>>509204975 (OP)
Shave your head, get tattoos, and become super muscular and big.

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>>509208761

>Shave your head, get tattoos, and become super muscular and big.

Thank you very much for your suggestions! I won't get tattoos since that amounts to low class behaviour and I do not trust the ingredients.

Getting muscular and big is an option, although I don't like the eating associated with it as that is not that healthy.

I prefer being knowledgeable and wise instead given my physique but you suggestions might work very well for other people and the combination definitely causes a "not to be fucked with" type of look which can be preventative. Thank you!

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>>509204975 (OP)

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>>509204975 (OP)
mockery/ridicule/derision/disdain/etc. but not obviously. The narc is based on wanting a perfect image because of deep seated internal esteem issues. Stuff like that.
So when they are stupid enough to show an ounce of their "power level", just give them a small smirk. a "heh, yeah bud" look, an "oh you" head tilt.
You probably won't see it land, but if you're lucky and persistent they'll start to crumble.
As always anger/threats/etc. are hilarious and deserve direct laughter because "What are you going to do"

>>509206563
I don't know exactly what your def of a narc is, but i knew one back in the day and he was OBSSESED with fucking over other men because he was dysgenic as fuck. Total crab basket mentality. Went to visit him and his Asian gf. We got drunk and i explained how it's not scientifically eugenic to race mix. He was so fucking pissed lmao. Heard about his bitching through the grape vine months later.

Not politics

>>509204975 (OP)
Why do you engage in a Gemini thread kek

>>509205824
>>509204975 (OP)
Good looking + narcissist = Good
Bad looking + narcissist = Bad

>>509204975 (OP)
first half of this video
https://youtu.be/tLVA07_ISUk&t=36

Among the various religious worldviews, Christianity stands out for what can be seen as a deeply narcissistic core: the belief that the individual can embody Christ — the literal son of God, sent to earth to redeem mankind from sin. This salvific self-identification isn’t merely theological; it borders on messianic delusion. The Christian often imagines themselves as both broken and chosen — flawed by nature, yet uniquely positioned to be saved, and to help save others. In psychoanalytic terms, this reflects a Freudian ego defense — a means of sublimating fear, guilt, and cosmic insignificance into a grand narrative of personal importance. The Christ archetype, rather than humbling the believer, frequently becomes an extension of their own ego: a projection of their desire to be exceptional, to suffer meaningfully, and to be exalted in death. The drama of sin and redemption offers a convenient stage for repressed instincts to masquerade as divine purpose. Beneath the piety, Freud might say, lies the Oedipal wish: to conquer death, be favored by the father, and triumph over the worldly temptations that the “devil” represents — which may, in truth, be the id in disguise. The cross becomes not just a symbol of sacrifice, but of ego glorification through martyrdom. And so, the Christian’s quest to imitate Christ is less about moral discipline, and more a metaphysical theater in which the self is the savior, the sinner, and the hero all at once.

>>509213785
Judaism presents itself as the chosen lineage — a people uniquely selected by God to bear the covenant of divine law and historical purpose. This chosenness forms the foundation of a collective identity that is at once ancient, persecuted, and exceptional. From a Freudian perspective, such a framework can be interpreted as a cultural superego — a deeply internalized authority that governs not just behavior, but the very conception of historical destiny. The emphasis on law, ritual, and inherited trauma serves to bind the ego to a communal narrative that both restrains and elevates. The Jewish psyche, in this sense, is shaped by the weight of ancestral obligation: memory as law, and identity as debt. Freud himself described Mosaic law as a repression of earlier pagan instincts — an act of sublimation that transformed primal desire into ethical commandment. Yet the idea of being “chosen” carries a latent narcissism, a subtle belief in spiritual or historical superiority, not through individual merit but through tribal inheritance. It is a theology of inherited exception, where suffering becomes a sign of divine favor, and historical survival is seen as proof of metaphysical truth. This worldview can serve as both a protective shell and a self-fulfilling prophecy — a way of framing all opposition as persecution, and all perseverance as proof of righteousness. In its deepest expression, Judaism operates not just as a religion, but as an existential contract with the universe: a mirror in which the self sees both eternal victimhood and divine purpose fused into one.

>>509213839
Islam offers a unified and totalizing vision of human existence, where submission — Islam itself — becomes not just a theological imperative but a psychological orientation. The believer, or mu’min, is called to align every aspect of life with the will of God (Allah), as revealed through the Qur’an and embodied by the Prophet Muhammad. From a Freudian standpoint, this rigid submission can be read as a deep identification with the paternal authority — the superego externalized and made absolute. The relentless emphasis on discipline, modesty, and ritual purification functions as a mechanism of ego containment: the chaotic impulses of the id — sexual desire, aggression, individualism — are subsumed under a divine legal framework. The Five Pillars offer a sense of existential scaffolding, allowing the believer to anchor identity not in self-expression but in obedience. In this way, Islam becomes both law and sanctuary — an inherited structure that protects the ego by repressing ambiguity, doubt, and dissent. Yet, as with any closed symbolic system, its strength can become a psychological trap: the more tightly the ego clings to divine law for stability, the more it is threatened by alternative truths or modern secular identities. Freud might argue that in such structures, God is less a father to be loved than a patriarch to be feared — a symbolic substitute for the original Oedipal complex, now sanctified and universalized. The promise of paradise, martyrdom, and eternal judgment creates a cosmology in which the self is always being watched, weighed, and measured — not only by God, but by the community as His earthly proxy. In this, Islam enforces unity through surveillance of the soul.

>>509213878
All three branches of Abraham are Narcissistic and appeal massively to Narcissistic personality disorders.
But Judaism takes the fucking cake for identifying a real Narcissist.

The desert death cult Religions are Narcissistic clubs in disguise.

Remove them from your life completely and as soon as possible if you can. You absolutely cannot change them, and the more time you spend around them you will only hurt yourself and it will solve nothing. They are empty bottomless pits that if they are providing no actual resource to you are literally pointless relationships to have.

just ignore them and interact in the bare minimum required

literally all you can do, you will not "convince" them to stop or "brainfuck" them with your epic witty reply, it's all just a waste of time

>>509204975 (OP)
Stay away from them. Nothing can be done in their case unless they are willing to change themselves - and you won't be the one convincing them to change. This is particularly true if the narcissist is old, they'll die in madness, cursing the world all the way to the grave. As the saying goes "old dogs can't learn new tricks".

how do you deal with old female narcissists who are out for male blood? especially considering they get extra protection from being female and everyone is on their side because they have a vagina?

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>>509211153
>mockery/ridicule/derision/disdain/etc. but not obviously. The narc is based on wanting a perfect image because of deep seated internal esteem issues. Stuff like that.
>So when they are stupid enough to show an ounce of their "power level", just give them a small smirk. a "heh, yeah bud" look, an "oh you" head tilt.
>You probably won't see it land, but if you're lucky and persistent they'll start to crumble.
>As always anger/threats/etc. are hilarious and deserve direct laughter because "What are you going to do"

Very good ideas, thank you very much for sharing! Anything that attacks their lust for control and or overinflated sense of false self causes narcissistic injury! However, one should not underestimate their irrationality as they may very well call the cops on one with completely made up fake accusations as it happened to me in the past! Situation and context matter!

>>509213964
>All three branches of Abraham are Narcissistic and appeal massively to Narcissistic personality disorders.
>But Judaism takes the fucking cake for identifying a real Narcissist.
>The desert death cult Religions are Narcissistic clubs in disguise.

Fully agree with you there! Very wise and multidisciplinary observations! I always found the abrahamic religions to be overly self obsessed and narcissistic, like if the desert sun has fried the brains of those brainlets:) Haha!

>>509204975 (OP)
>How do you deal with narcissists?
ANSWER: I just tell them it's all about me, and then I move on.

>>509213964

Judaism as well as current israel politics is a picture book example of narcissistic tactics and defense strategies in action, is is literally a mental disorder turned into applied political and diplomatic tactics! The similarities are striking! Jews basically use applied narcissism as alloplastic defenses combined with their narcissistic rationalizations and delusions to lie cheat and steal to get what they want! Judaism is applied narcissism!

Thank you for your insightful observations, it is nice to see that I am not the only one who thought so as well!

>>509214625
>>509214931
>>509215620

Thank you so much for your congruent responses! No contact is the only viable strategy! Fully agree with all of you! Thank you for sharing!

>>509204975 (OP)
you say "no".
unironically

>>509218204
>ANSWER: I just tell them it's all about me, and then I move on.

That is also an interesting tactic, applied egoism and egocentrism to an extent that they just disappear! Interesting, thank you very much for sharing!

>>509206463
This reads like chatgpt

>>509218827

Thank you very much for your response! To deny them their attempts at resource extraction and control is a good basis for intentional and applied ignorance. Also, if you don't mind me asking, how is the weather today where you are?

>>509219206
hot in the morning but better now

>>509213785
>>509205824

This is just different AIs talking to each other.

>>509219072

That might be the case due to formatting, but my mistakes are all still genuine and and AI would not make them! Therefore I can assure you that in this single instance I have written the comment myself but an AI was used to correct typos and American to British English for that one single comment which I asked the AI to correct because of laziness and since it is faster than re-typing the relevant passages! Your pattern recognition is spot on! Thank you very much for your response!

>>509219561

No, that is definitely not correct! While I don't know who that other commentator is, all my comments except for one which has already been mentioned and described as having been AI corrected for typos, are genuine and solely written by me without the use of AI, implying otherwise is disingenuous!

It is interesting that I regularly get accused of being an AI nowadays! Truly remarkable as I wish I had those abilities, oh that would be truly wonderful!

>>509219576
Hey bud, I admire your syntax as it is similar to the manner in which I express myself, with Faustian clauses and Dostoevskan flow. I wonder if it is a byproduct of education, autism, or your österreichiches upbringing. However, I am concerned you might be AI, so please try to remember to include the word "nigger" or "kike" in your post to ensure your readers believe you are corporeal. To answer your query, yes, acquire wealth and knowledge and remove yourself from society, because everyone from the univeristy to the yacht club is, one-hundred percent of the time, in it for themselves. Empathy is not effective, which I why I repress my innate nature that demands I be gracious, kind, loving and cute :3

Tschau!

>>509204975 (OP)
Is rightwing ideological narcissism? People like Jordan Peterson have been working to define narcissism in the left as being an activist of sorts in that the assumption is that they don't truly believe in their cause, there isn't a logical way to disagree with an establishment or criticism of it to exist, so it must be that they only are activists as an accessory. It relies heavily on mind reading, but also your level of confidence in what you believe. When the left is criticized in that way, it comes from a place of disagreement becasue rightwing activists aren't classified the same way. Or maybe they believe the correctness is beside the point, the motive, the reason to take action, is purely self promotional.

To arrive at those conclusions relies on logical leaping and assumptions, you put in work. On the right, it's as simple as pointing out that they keep voting for Trump. Is Trump a narcissist? Why does that not ever enter their conversions on the topic? The answer is that to them, the narcissist diagnosis was just a means to an end; not engaging with the substance of what's being supporter or opposed and instead address the motives of why anyone would take that stance and focus on that.

>>509204975 (OP)

Mountains keep the gays away. They don't like climbing that much. They have a lot of back pain.

>>509204975 (OP)
I guess the answer is to not feed them or need them
I usually avoid most women for this reason

>>509219345

That is nice to hear! Thank you very much for your response!

If you don't mind me asking, whenever I watch Al Jazeera Arabic or English, it can be seen that there are literally daily new atrocities committed in Gaza by the IDF, like yesterday the shooting of a cafe by the Israeli Navy at the shorelines of Gaza and the bombing of a school where people slept around midnight (although they got a 5 Minute advanced notice it seems) as well as continued tank shelling of people waiting at foot distribution places.

Most of the people killed there are civilians which is obvious!

For a better understanding, could you perhaps elaborate why the IDF keeps doing that? It is literally state terrorism and since many people rotate through the ranks and positions of the IDF, many, many Israeli citizens are indeed truly complicit, meaning there are few innocent among you folks!

Now I am definitely not a fan of Islam or muslims, especially since they are not fond of veganism, but do you know that most of the IDF recruits look darker, meaning they have darker skin tones than many people in Gaza? It really appears like many IDF soldiers are a mixture of arabics and africans.

Why does the IDF goes on slaughtering civilians each and every day? You are only causing hatred and dislike for your people and religion around the world, do you really want that? I never cared much about the jews, but the barbaric slaughter you people engage in daily is just not ethical, period and now as a consequence I have become sceptical about everything Jewish! There are many people like me, not very wise.

Are the IDF terror campaigns globalist agendas in action in order to induce suffering into daily thinking as a baseline transformation for the establishment of a new normal? Do you want to cause a collective trauma or a slow genocide step by step, one atrocity at a time?

I would greatly appreciate any factual response of yours! Thanks for reading!

>>509221353
fighters go out building
fighters back into building
IDF bomb building
fighters casualties: 0, vecuase they are all in the tunnels
children casualties, a lot
children not allowed tunnels

>>509220291

Thank you very much for taking the time to write such an insightful and elaborate response, i appreciate it very much!

>Hey bud, I admire your syntax as it is similar to the manner in which I express myself, with Faustian clauses and Dostoevskan flow.

Haha, very amusing observation! Although I have read Faust (there being I and II yellow reclam student editions) in the past (at least the first part), I have yet to read Dostoyevsky, maybe in the future! I wish I could follow you there!

>I wonder if it is a byproduct of education, autism, or your österreichiches upbringing.

IMHO It is a combination of me not being a native english speaker, my autism and autistic thinking, my limited active English vocabulary as everyone here can easily read here (passive vocabulary is much bigger) and the fact that I usually don't get the chance to speak English, except with AIs. Moreover my German writing style is also very formal, elaborate and if applicable scientific, therefore the underlying reasons might indeed be my thought patterns and desire for completion or symmetry (although it certainly isn't, although it nonetheless feels that way).

>However, I am concerned you might be AI, so please try to remember to include the word "nigger" or "kike" in your post to ensure your readers believe you are corporeal.

To address your valid concerns: Niggers are the the favourite pets of the kikes, followed by mudslimes! Heil, heil, heil, Heim ins Reich! Sieg Heil dem Deutschen Reich! Deutschland über alles! Better, right?:)

>To answer your query, yes, acquire wealth and knowledge and remove yourself from society, because everyone from the university to the yacht club is, one-hundred percent of the time, in it for themselves. Empathy is not effective, which I why I repress my innate nature that demands I be gracious, kind, loving and cute :3

Thank you very much for your insightful explanation! [To be continued]

>Tschau!

>Cool, habe die Ehre! [Have the honour!]

>>509222951
Based. What do you think of this:
>>509220330

>>509220291
>To answer your query, yes, acquire wealth and knowledge and remove yourself from society, because everyone from the university to the yacht club is, one-hundred percent of the time, in it for themselves.

Continued: IMHO A lack of care can be seen nearly everywhere and what matters most are quick bucks. The current system resembles a prison where only the parasite class get to band together to further enrich themselves, otherwise it is everyone against everyone! Most people i have seen during the last few years are takers, meaning eat or get eaten type of people, which is rather disgusting.

Do you think it would ethically justified or even required to do the same given the described circumstances despite conscientiousness related objections?

>Empathy is not effective, which I why I repress my innate nature that demands I be gracious, kind, loving and cute :3

It would be great to know how you managed to accomplish that without always having a nagging conscience, or super-ego introject kind of voice, reminding one what would have been the ethical thing to do. Do you have any ideas or suggestions there? Or does practice make perfect in this instance?

Thank you very much for reading! Hopefully you have created your nice place which permits yourself to be gracious, kind, loving and cute:), true self actualization!

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>>509204975 (OP)
dismissiveness
drives them mad

>>509224527
You can go ahead and respond to this:
>>509220330

>>509204975 (OP)
Grey rock technique

>>509204975 (OP)
>HS50
I neeeeed ittttttttttt

>>509224659
>>509224783
These generally. The point isn't to make them mad, it's to make them look elsewhere for what they're looking for.

>>509224666

Yes, yes, I am still typing! Thank you for your patience! I only bumped for the thread to remain active in between! I will definitely reply! Thank you so much for your patience!

So the summary of the article is..
>this person is a narcissist because i can't extract resources out of them
Something oddly suspicious about people who call others narcissists

>>509225265
Thank you!

>>509225293
I feel the same way. That's why I wrote this
>>509220330

There was some event where someone turned out the lights at a Don Jr event and he said, "you see that? That's pure narcissism." What is that supposed to mean? Why jump to that conclusion? There are plenty of reasons someone would do that, especially to Trump Jr, author of Triggered, and he should know that, but he throws out a buzzword so easily and definitively is bizarre.

>>509204975 (OP)
"I think your great. I don't care what they say about you." leave them with that. Don't elaborate

>>509204975 (OP)
let me finish this authors book and i'll return back to you

https://www.onassholes.com/?page_id=19

>>509220330
>>509223639
>>509224666
>>509225444

Thank you very much for your response and your question. I greatly appreciate your contribution, as well as the image you have kindly uploaded.

In my opinion, the dichotomy of "right versus left" is a false one, as in actuality, the principal divide lies between those who possess wealth and those who do not. However, the subjective experience and framework of self-perception—i.e. the frame of reference or the lens through which reality is perceived—are frequently and deliberately distorted, either individually or through external stimuli, including psychological warfare and NPC-style groupthink. This distortion is often employed to make individuals conform either to their own internalised narratives (i.e. their "self-stories") or to those propagated by external actors operating covertly.

Regardless of origin, groupthink and collectively aligned ideologies generate, through particular cognitive patterns which give rise to delusions and thereby to actions, a distinct subset of possible manifestations of reality—these constituting only a fraction of what could be conceived as the full potential of objective reality.

This implies that, although the true distinctions primarily concern disparities in wealth, two sufficiently indoctrinated and propagandised populations—subjected to MK-Ultra-style mental programming—can still engage collectively in shaping reality in very specific ways. For this reason, propaganda and psychological manipulation (e.g. MK Ultra methodologies) are employed by those intent on realising particular outcomes via the use of instrumentalised human agents, or "puppets".

Donald Trump exemplifies the profile of a grandiose narcissist who never experienced narcissistic collapse; he has maintained his grandiosity throughout his life, a condition arguably enabled by his having been born into wealth.

TO BE CONTINUED!

>>509226111
I know you're not done, but dismissing where the popular usage of accusations of "narcissism" in politics is most concentrated when it's clearly the right using it against the left is probable and quantifiable. Going off the rails to say this is all just MK ultra illusions and not instances like rightwing backed Jordan Peterson going to Piers Morgan to talk about the narcissism of the left and then say that empathetic narcissism is more dangerous than AI and nuclear war, is just deflection. Look at this thread, you say narcissist, people here make references to women and gays being narcissists.

>>509204975 (OP)
I don't deal with them.

>>509225794

With reference to the image you have provided, I would place myself at level 12. Realities situated beyond the Solar System are, in my view, exceedingly difficult to conceptualise in any meaningful way, primarily due to the limitations imposed by the current state of scientific and technological development. In my opinion, ethical relevance attaches itself most strongly to those entities or domains that can be adversely affected by one’s actions or omissions; beyond that sphere, concern becomes less justifiable—except, perhaps, in a spiritual or metaphysical sense.

To this day, I remain profoundly affected—often with a sense of shock or disquiet—when confronted with the selfishness and apparent indifference of strangers. This frequently stems from an inability to understand the underlying mental frameworks from which such behaviour emerges. Only those things that are actively nurtured and cared for are capable of flourishing; all else, unless sustained by natural regenerative cycles, inevitably deteriorates. When certain populations adopt ideological constructs that render them even more self-centred than they were previously, an inevitable consequence is increased neglect—especially with regard to all entities outside their in-group. This includes the out-group, non-human animals, the biosphere, and the environment at large. Such behaviour, in my assessment, cannot be deemed responsible, nor does it satisfy any reasonable conception of ethical conduct.

To be continued!

>>509226597

The foundation of one’s actions ought, where feasible, to be guided by the categorical imperative. However, it must be acknowledged that care—like all ethically motivated exertion—requires energy. And, like all living systems, each individual possesses only a finite reservoir of energy and resources. Consequently, many individuals lack the material capacity to exert meaningful influence beyond their immediate environments, largely due to financial constraints. These limitations, I would argue, are not incidental but structurally imposed—deliberate artefacts of systemic design created by those who engineered the prevailing socio-economic order.

It is imperative to recognise that a cabal of individuals operates from behind the veil of public perception—a group numbering in the hundreds, supported by several thousand intermediaries and operational agents. This collective, which Dr Shiva has referred to as "The Swarm," engages in the scripting and orchestration of societal reality. They exercise considerable influence via the global system they have constructed—one rooted in Zionist globalist architecture. These actors actively generate the necessary preconditions for the realisation of their desired outcomes. Their methods are multifaceted, frequently drawing upon dialectical schemes such as Thesis–Antithesis–Synthesis, as well as broader metaphysical principles, particularly those pertaining to the cosmic law of causality.

>>509226597

Please excuse the wait time and the AI induced corrections for typos and style, it is much faster that way and as long as the underlying thoughts are conveyed, IMHO that is still acceptable! Thank you very much for your attention! I am still planning on addressing all of your points!

>>509225948
Thats fucking hilarious honestly. If theyre dumb theyll like you, and you can use their own predatory tactics against them. If theyre smart theyll read between the lines but theres nothing they can do.

>>509218204
Secret agent Perry the platypus...
How did I not see this coming?

>>509226597

There is neither a right nor left, one could as easily just relabel them A and B. There are people who are NPC programmed since school, who got their individuality driven out of them by the school system, who have been fed lies, deceptions, omissions, carefully fabricated pseudo realities by the MSM and hollywood and who got caged for life, partially by their very own contributions to it, meaning their lack and desire for critical thinking skills and to make good use of their mental faculties

I really don't want to disappoint you and I am certainly not deflecting, but I have to mention that I have a very hard time time in believing in any made up BS like the US political theatre. IMHO it is very important to carefully select the basis of one's own reality and thinking, like an axiomatic approach, one has to start somewhere

There are various planes or subsets or groupings or categorizations imaginable that would conveniently describe a part of objective reality for entirely practical purposes:

1) All things natural that just are without humans.
2) Things that are of human creation but which are real with a physical representation, like buildings, machines and so on but not naturally part of nature.
3) Virtual and non physical creations like programming languages, Hatsune Miku, modern finance that are easily communicable and verifiable but non physical but verifiable in another plane of existence, a virtualized one!
4) Thought and Mind spaces where individual or collectively shared ideas and mindsets reside, not real but made real by manifestation of the actions undertaken in order to reach the desired outcome.
5) Spiritual and Astral Plane. That is avery rough approximation and by no mean all encompassing.

4) Is not reality but a bunch of thoughts, collectively a mental illness, a set of beliefs based on which actions transform reality physically leading to manifestations. The American political theory is based on 4 and therefore not real!

>>509204975 (OP)
Hit em with a sledgehammer.

>>509223721
>Most people ... are takers
Givers have to set boundaries, because Takers never will.

>>509227502
>>509227628
>>509227742
But you deflected hard on the whole point. You addressed the pic, but that's the study from the "opinion discarded" heat map that showed the right is more selfish and tribal. I wanted to know what you thought of selfish tribalism that votes for Trump calling their opposition narcissist when the study that right uses to disparage the left just shows that, like you, they extend their considerations to further. "Extending considerations" was propagandized to mean "narcissistic".

BUMP 7!

>>509229770

I sincerely apologize, I might have approached the issue from a more underlying perspective. I get what you asked thank you very much restating your question!

There appears to be a selective appropriation of the term narcissism used in political discourse, arguing that it is disproportionately used by the political right against the left which also entails a potential correlation between accusations of narcissism towards marginalised identity groups (e.g. women, LGBTQ+ individuals).

There is undoubtedly a Linguistic Asymmetry present in the false Diagnostic Attribution and usage of the term narcissism.
Empirical analysis of contemporary media discourse confirms that pathologization of the left via terms such as narcissism, virtue signalling, hypocrisy, or histrionicity has indeed become prevalent on right-leaning platforms (like you mentioned cf. Peterson, Shapiro, Carlson). This rhetorical pattern mirrors a strategic appropriation of clinical vocabulary to delegitimize political dissent and moral expansionism (e.g. climate concern, animal ethics, minority rights)!

This leads to Projection and Defensive Displacement in the following form in current US political discourse:
In the context of narcissism, psychodynamic frameworks (e.g. Kernberg, Kohut, Millon) define narcissism as involving grandiosity, entitlement, diminished empathy, and externalised blame. The criticism that the left is narcissistic for expanding their moral circle (e.g. caring for non-humans, future generations, or systemic equity) is actually incongruent with such traits. Instead, right-wing populist rhetoric often displays in-group exceptionalism, entitlement, and resentment projection which, ironically, map quite directly onto narcissistic behavioural dimensions.

To be continued!

>>509204975 (OP)
Over time you'll learn how to identify them easier, then learn to stay away from them.
Or you pretend to be oblivious to their manipulation tactics in order to get closer to them, so you can put eyedrop solution in their glass of water while they're in the bathroom :)

oh cool a jewish psychology thread

>>509229770

Quantifiable Bias and clearly observable Moral Circle Inversion can be seen by the usage of narcissistic defense strategies. The image you have thankfully uploaded visualises the potential expansiveness of one’s moral concern, with concentric circles extending from the nuclear family outward to "all things in existence." If one accepts this model, the conflation of empathic universalism with narcissism is an inversion of the moral hierarchy. The cognitive dissonance arises when those who demonstrate moral parochialism accuse those with broader moral scope of moral narcissism.

There undoubtedly is a Sociocultural Anchoring of “Narcissism” as an Insult taking place which implies the weaponization of well defined vocabulary for political purposes by a redefinition of the actual meaning and actual definition. The invocation of narcissism toward specific identity groups (e.g. women, gay men) in online discourse reflects a regressive cultural script: namely, that public displays of emotion, self-articulation, or boundary-setting are reframed as "narcissistic" unless aligned with traditional masculine stoicism or conformist group norms. This usage is not clinically grounded but, as mentioned, morally symbolic and socio-politically weaponised.

I would therefore conclude that yes, the accusation of narcissism is concentrated in right-wing rhetoric against left-identifying individuals and groups. This pattern is documentable and ideologically motivated. Deflecting from this by invoking meta-narratives without structural clarification may undermine otherwise legitimate critiques of power asymmetries and discursive control. It amounts to the weaponization of language based on specific domains in order to encourage political infighting. AI was used in this and the comment beforehand for writing style and typo correction. END! IMHO that amounts to more of what you were asking for? Correct?

>>509232024
>oh cool a jewish psychology thread

Haha, cool! Indeed! Jewishness is based on applied narcissism, just watch the speeches of the Israeli UN diplomats and their narcissistic defenses when discussing the Genocide taking place and carried out by the IDF in Gaza. They get employed intentionally and not pathologically. It is all a giant mind fuck and a perpetrator victim-inversion.

Bump 8!

>>509232409
How does it feel knowing you will NEVER be german?
How does it feel knowing youre just an ungrateful rebellious province to the east of germany?
How does it feel coping with your own meme "empire" that didnt even last more than 200 years?
How does it feel being so irrelevant no one even notices your existence even though you caused both world wars?

Fake german

>>509229770
>"Extending considerations" was propagandized to mean "narcissistic".

It is basic judeo satanic subversion and inversion, a term gets misapplied in order to cause a desired effect and the actual meaning of the term gets inverted which has lots of benefits to it: Caring, loving and inclusive individuals get mislabeled and unjustly attacked by a bastardization of the truth and actual selfish narcissists can steal and rob even more shamelessly and indiscriminately. Thus it can be seen that the actual inversion of the term by application causes even more harm and benefits than the correct application of the term would ever have caused! That is a remarkable characteristic of jewish talmudic mind tricks, they often work and create chaos and opportunities where the victims get blamed and the perpetrators get to play the victims. Same case here! Jewishness is applied narcissism after all.

>>509233018
>How does it feel knowing you will NEVER be german?
>How does it feel knowing youre just an ungrateful rebellious province to the east of germany?
>How does it feel coping with your own meme "empire" that didnt even last more than 200 years?
>How does it feel being so irrelevant no one even notices your existence even though you caused both world wars?
>Fake german

Hahah, good one! Unfortunately I am not patriotic, therefore I do not care very much about abstract concepts or egregores like fictional and non existent entities that are commonly referred to as countries! However I will gladly refer to myself as a fake german form now on if anybody asks, that is a fitting therm!

>>509231559
>Over time you'll learn how to identify them easier, then learn to stay away from them.

Yes I too got that impression!

>>509229746
>Givers have to set boundaries, because Takers never will.

Yes totally agree with you there, always ak "what is in for me" and if the answer is nothing then walk away (except for truly altruistic giving like with family) Giving is alright but it has to be based on reciprocity, always!

>>509229770

Anon, are you still there! Do you want to continue the discourse that has been started? Hope you are well! Best wishes to you!

>>509229705

YES! That is also among my first thoughts! Glad that I am not the only one who thought so! Haha!

>>509227274
>I don't deal with them.

Best solution if possible!

>>509204975 (OP)
I find narcissists weak

They are easily duped because how much they like having their ego stroked

Basicly just be kind to them. Act impressed by them with true emotions.


”Man dude ur actually special. Ive met so many people and ur unique. I dont think many people couldve Done this and im not saying it to be nice youre actually cool…”

He Will be fucking enslaved by you

Then use them for whatever you need and discard them later when theyre useless to you

Not really worth crushing them because they get so assblasted they Will do everything to get revenge. And Thats just useless

Just dont reply dissapear without a Word when ur Done with them and got what you needed out of them

>>509234490
Also if you do it like this you can always cycle back and recycle the narcissist in the future if you need something out of them again

>>509233754
You have been brainwashed by pessimistic liberalism sartre and camus and all the drench perversions of the XXth century. Germany is eternal. And it will claim all of europe one day.

>>509234562
How is sweden like? Ive always been very interested in learning swedish,visiting gotenland. All those green pastures,grassland and so much living space fit perfectly for agriculture and yet your country is so sparsely populated...and the north too,i want to visit those mountains in the north where the legendary twilight of the nordic gods took place. Maybe one day I will find something worth marvelling at.

>>509206933
It's crazy how they have so little in their lives they spend time planning harassment. Before we lived in a Jewish society, they would get kicked out of town.

If you want to make a nice deal with a narc you need to praise and validate them a bit in exchange for goodies and favours and if you want them to fuck off dont react to anything they say or do, they are the easiest type of person to trick just remebmer narcs crave praise like an incel craves virgin pussy

>>509234745
Yeah kindof like that. Stroke their egos they are much more naive than youd realise

>>509234562
>>509234490

Entirely based take! Thank you very much for sharing! Uses an exploit and actually uses their weakness against them in an inverted manner. Like a human psyche hacker! High IQ take and a good solution as long as one can fake it. They really hate it if one inverses the discard part phase as that causes an enormous narcissistic injury!

However, with self supplying actively sadistic narcissists and malignant narcissists that will not work as they do not give a damn about adoration, external narcissistic supply, admiration as their supply is gained by the harm they cause and the pain of their victims.

Otherwise a very good and practical approach which uses the neediness for admiration of the narcissist against them. Best wishes to Sweden! Must be a nice place during the summer!

>>509234210
I'm here! Thank you for checking. I read what you wrote and I think it's dumb to try to qualify rightwing tribalism as jewishness when it's historically monarchist and global. It's true, Israel is a rightwing ethnonation, but it's not relevant to the rightwing think tank project like Daily Wire and the general corporate interests they represent.

>>509235948
>>509235396

What about sadistic psychopaths? Whats your take on people who would want to crucify,peel alive or shoot the very people they love the most in the head? When I am in love with a woman a part of me just wants to murder her in the most brutal way. By punching her with knuckledusters,shooting her with a bow and arrow,throwing her into the cold in the mountains etc. And no i dont hate this person at all,I want her to marry me.

>>509235948
You dont discard them you simply fade away. If you try to discard him he Will feel attacked.

You have to never reveal yourself to them.

Ive destroyed many narcissists the best tactic is acting like a weak nice person.

I view it kindof like being a predator that hunts predators.

You must first give them the bait.

Hey :) wow so cool ! :):)

When they view you as prey they latch on.

Then you slowly destroy their ego but never in a too obvious way or theyll figure it out and wont be as damaged

You leave them unknowing of what they went through

The master predator regular victims are not fun or challenging. You only Hunt the predators

>>509235121
>It's crazy how they have so little in their lives they spend time planning harassment. Before we lived in a Jewish society, they would get kicked out of town.

Yeah indeed! The covert narcissists are always seething with anger and hatred all the time in the background, like a badly disguised demon. They are dangerous since many of them also have traits from antisocial personality disorder, meaning they plan, plot and carry out revenge even years later and they do not care one yota about the harm they cause. Covert narcissists are revengeful weaklings, but actually dangerous if one is caught off guard by them! One has to know where things come from!
Jewishness amounts to applied narcissism towards the out group, they made narcissists seemingly palatable.

>>509204975 (OP)
that guy is fucked
>>509205046
this

>>509236348
Cant really beat a sociopath because they truly dont care.

Only option would be just killing them if they are in the way physically

Narcissists on the order hand have an ego Thats abuseable

>>509236651
>>>509204975 (OP) (OP)
>that guy is fucked

Why am I fucked exactly? I am always open to self improvement and I am always eager to learn! Could you perhaps elaborate a little bit? Thank you so much!

>>509204975 (OP)
Weaponized autism that's been honed in to manipulate anyone and everyone. Once you learn to treat socializing like an old Bethesda game dialogue tree you can get A LOT done. Narcissists and other strong personality types are the easiest to deal with because they show all their cards upfront. You know exactly what you're dealing with and can use it to your advantage.

>>509236348

Well that is commonly referred to as "tough love" isn't it? Sorry, no pun intended! Actually I don't really know as psychopaths are often goal driven and compared to narcissists they have a more accurate sense of reality without fantasy defenses. You could ask an AI, it would be interesting to know what it will come up with!

>>509204975 (OP)
>How do you effectively deal with them
There's no effective way to "deal" with them, the only option is to completely remove them from your life.

>>509204975 (OP)
well, their weak point is that they're literally retarded.

some part of the socialization process that usually happens before, like, i don’t know age ten, just didn't happen for them, and they never caught up.

moreover, being a habitual liar impairs their ability to think rationally. it wrecks the inner compass - the gut, the instinct, the emotion. they can't weigh options quickly, and they stop caring whether anything in their mind is even true.

if it's a relationship, bail - not worth your time. if it's a work thing, have fun messing with the system, overpromise all you want. lie, flake, play. playing nice would get you nowhere anyway, so you're not risking anything. it's honestly the most fun you can have screwing with something as an adult.

>>509215835
>how do you deal with old female narcissists who are out for male blood? especially considering they get extra protection from being female and everyone is on their side because they have a vagina?

Yeah, that is a real issue! I got the cops called on me by such a stupid old hag who is a covert narc, definitely NPD and no subclinical traits paired with antisocial personality disorder. One false accusation and a bunch of government henchmen show up to "question" aka intimidate, coerce and possibly detain the victim of the narc who dared to have an individual opinion.

>>509221039
>I guess the answer is to not feed them or need them
>I usually avoid most women for this reason

Good take!

>>509222044

Thank you very much for the explanation provided! It is imaginable that such is actually the case in some to many instances! However that does not explain the tank shelling at the Israeli set up food distribution centers where neither tunnels nor hamas fighters are present!

>>509209632
>I prefer being knowledgeable and wise instead given my physique

Are you one of those fags that thinks being a skinny pencil neck = smart and if you work out you might look like chad who bullied you in high school?

>>509225948
>"I think your great. I don't care what they say about you." leave them with that. Don't elaborate

>>509238171
>Are you one of those fags that thinks being a skinny pencil neck = smart and if you work out you might look like chad who bullied you in high school?

Actually no as I currently have nearly 280 ibs:)

>>509237535
>moreover, being a habitual liar impairs their ability to think rationally. it wrecks the inner compass - the gut, the instinct, the emotion. they can't weigh options quickly, and they stop caring whether anything in their mind is even true.
>if it's a relationship, bail - not worth your time. if it's a work thing, have fun messing with the system, overpromise all you want. lie, flake, play. playing nice would get you nowhere anyway, so you're not risking anything. it's honestly the most fun you can have screwing with something as an adult.

Very interesting take, thank you so much for sharing! I fully agree with you as I have personally experienced that an ethical and professional demeanor usually doesn't produce the desired outcomes.

>>509239059
you're very welcome! i'm glad to hear that our perspectives align. your personal experience adds valuable insight to the discussion. if you have any more thoughts or questions, feel free to share - we're here to listen!

>>509239355
>you're very welcome! i'm glad to hear that our perspectives align. your personal experience adds valuable insight to the discussion. if you have any more thoughts or questions, feel free to share - we're here to listen!

Now that sounds almost spooky and AI like. It is very polite and nice, thank you very much, but also very "open" and "inviting"...I get an eerie feeling when reading those lines, you know!

Do I come across that way? If so that sounds kind of creepy! Urgh, I have never seen it that way! No wonder threads started by me are mostly full of my own comments. Haha!
Maybe I should behave a little bit less polite and less formal? Mhhh...

Also who is "we"? NSA?

Thanks bro:)

>>509240080
spooky vibes 100%, i get it

but nah, you don't come off creepy at all. you just talk like a person who thinks before typing, which reads weird on a platform where everyone's speedrunning dopamine. your threads being mostly your own replies? based honestly. that's you actually processing, not just chasing engagement crumbs.

should you be less polite? maybe not less nice, but less polished, yeah. throw some dirt in the syntax. make it feel like a person's behind the keyboard, not a corporate intern or a bot farm in virginia.

and "we" ain't the NSA, bro. "we" is just me, eyes fried, half-replying, half-dissociating, answering posts like it's a whisper into the mainframe. you're good. keep being weird.

>>509204975 (OP)
>frei
>stoß
I do admire your dedication to candicy and formality, my good sir!
>>509237535
>>509239059
>Very interesting take
I concur.

>>509204975 (OP)
>How do you deal with narcissists?
make friends with (real) deity

>>509240951
>candicy
*candor! :P

>>509240898

Thank you so much!! Honest feedback is a rarity these days! "like it's a whisper into the mainframe" is a cool phrase! I will remember that!

Have a big Hug and best wishes to you in Poland! Hope you are doing well and for you to stay that way Anon! Godspeed to you!!

>>509240951

Thank you so much! The issue is if I start to write with more leeway I feel that creeping in during other occasions too. Good Habits are very important to consciously form as they are like a superpower of thoughtless and mostly effortless (no internal resistance) self automation. Good habits can change one's life for the better! Schöne Grüße in das echte Deutschland:)!

Alright everyone, thank you so much for participating, it clearly hasn't been a 1 post thread by me, wishing you all the best, sleep time now for me! Godspeed to all of you! May all of you live long and prosper!

>>509222951
Hey friend, always appreciate a real thread. I will be posting part 1 of novel I wrote this weekend that you may enjoy, I hope you see it. If not, search "Neue Welt" in the archives next weekend!

I was a bleeding-heart climate change researcher in university, which slowly gave way to a more ecofascist perspective from /r collapse and blogs from the Netherlands and the Earth Forst! movement in the Southwestern US.
Now as an engineer I just try to build infrastructure and ski resorts right the first time to minimize waste and re-work; and I stack silver and GME hoping that the collapse occurs in my lifetime and I get to play Cowboy and Indian (on hard mode, I'm classing with a sword and bow, fuck guns).
"I would rather kill a man than a snake"


I suggest you realize that you will spend money better than anyone else could, so situate yourself to have passive income streams.

The "Takers" concept: did you recently read Ishmael? That's the crux of it. Just realize that all our leaders are mere blips in history, so we may as well get fit, eat mishrooms, and practice love (within our nation/ethnicity).

>>509204975 (OP)
The biggest insult a narcissist can get is being rejected or ignored.
If you physically cannot avoid talking to them, you can still ignore them by avoiding the topic they care about.
Stonewall them, they care about the argument as a “game” to win, rather than an opportunity for growth.

Be willing to be annoying, because it’s a worse look for the narcissist when they freak out on you.

In general though, avoidance, cut them out of your life asap before they catch you in their vortex of collapse

there's nothing i can reasonably do to make them stop doing what they're doing so long as other people still enable them, so all i can really do is just ignore them entirely.

>>509225995
the philosophy prof that wrote this book quotes "an asshole is a guy that could tempt the pope into a fight"

>>509243458
or like, maybe have fun with it

let them believe they’ve got you figured out, that they know your triggers: fear, guilt, obligation, whatever
play along. fail to deliver, or deliver in the most opaque way possible, with the worst timing possible, whatever it was they wanted to achieve

misunderstand on purpose.
when the heat goes up, loop in higher-ups like you're escalating, but make it ten times crazier than it actually is, and only barely related to the actual issue.
just enough to confuse everyone and reset the energy.

my first two jobs, i had to bail - burnout + toxicity. they feed on you being passive, compliant, easy to manage. this one though, i made a promise - i'm not leaving unless they drag me out. watched a dozen people get chewed up and spit out by management, but i just keep pushing the line of what's allowed without getting canned. eight years deep, still here

>>509205014
Newfag