The modern Western far-left is not a real political movement - /pol/ (#509233968) [Archived: 746 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: jK+kYsQZUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 7:38:23 PM No.509233968
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As someone who has been a Communist since the early 2000s, involved numerous times in orgs and countless marches and whatever, I feel I have a pretty good authority to claim that the modern Western "left" has no basis in Marxism, Marx, Communism or Socialism. In fact most "Leftists" actually have a strong dislike for regular working class people and their local communities.
The modern Western far-left, is nothing more than a counter-culture. It's no different from Punk, or Black Metal or whatever. What drives, the vast majority of Leftists, is that they grew up boring suburban, cultureless lives, and they use "Communism" to rebel against their parents and boring "get off my lawn" normies around them. They think Communism will basically bring about a cultural utopia where they get to live the life of a New York Socialite and all normie culture is destroyed and everyone becomes an psued arthoe like them. Not kidding, in every Socialist org I've ever been a part of, Sport was literally referred to as "Sportsball" in a scoffing manner.
Many go further and will support Open Borders and mass immigration, because they are functionally blackpilled and want to see society torn around around them and everyone suffer. "Socialism", and by "Socialism" I just mean LGBT wokie politics under the guise of a red flag just gives them a "moral highground" to be an antisocial fucktard.
If this was the 1970s or 1980s the vast majority of modern ""Communists"" would just look like pic related. Because that is all this is, a counter culture. The amount of times, I've gotten into shit and been dressed down, or banned from online communities, for holding the EXACT SAME POSITION WORD FOR WORD as Marx or Lenin is fucking wild. Again, this is because these people have no materialist basis. Most of the far-left are just fucking antisocial losers seething at normies and pretty much all "Democratic Socialists" are just Social Democrats who want Turbo Liberalism welfare state.
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Anonymous ID: JJew9nRmUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 7:41:21 PM No.509234233
"its not real communism"
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Anonymous ID: Atniox8vUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 7:44:40 PM No.509234471
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>>509233968 (OP)
There’s two types of western communist. Retarded idiot uni kids that don’t know what it is and think it’s a John Lennon Imagine utopia, and smelly reddit loser trannies, benefits scroungers and the mentally ill. The second group are what’s known as bioleninists. Genetic inferiors who the state have whipped into resenting normal healthy people and to become loyal attack dogs of the regime.
Anonymous ID: EdQ4Wuw6United States
7/1/2025, 7:45:03 PM No.509234503
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>>509233968 (OP)
Anonymous ID: k8JQKvM3Chile
7/1/2025, 7:45:14 PM No.509234518
all correct but it goes deeper than that, no social movement has ever been "organic", all they have to do is plant some figurehead and honeypot anyone who is remotely discontent enough to want to do anything. let a group grow for a while and it'll look organic, but notice how many figureheads are almost always jewish, again, not a single cultural movement has ever been organic, including your picrel
Anonymous ID: IZCBxeW/United States
7/1/2025, 7:45:35 PM No.509234543
>>509233968 (OP)
>subversive political movement with shaky historical basis get hijacked by faggots
>as it has times before
>t-they’re not real socialists!
Hilarious. Enjoy your irrelevance.
Anonymous ID: Hq5qQpBaUnited States
7/1/2025, 7:46:14 PM No.509234610
>>509233968 (OP)
No shit. Everyone realized this years ago. They're faggot larpers
Anonymous ID: JGp4vCQ7United States
7/1/2025, 7:49:06 PM No.509234805
>>509234233
There is no such thing as real communism
It is a fantasy for brain dead retards
Anonymous ID: Y8L2rg5AUnited States
7/1/2025, 7:49:36 PM No.509234842
>>509233968 (OP)
>banned from online communities, for holding the EXACT SAME POSITION WORD FOR WORD as Marx or Lenin

*cough* Reddit

They'll ban you if you breathe
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Anonymous ID: vUdHu4L9United States
7/1/2025, 7:51:18 PM No.509234962
>>509233968 (OP)
Duh. I love how commies always love to lecture everyone else about topics everyone else already knew about decades ago.
Anonymous ID: 8Uoov2cqUnited States
7/1/2025, 7:53:26 PM No.509235148
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>>509233968 (OP)
The plandemic taught us all that Leftist do what they're told if the orders come from a voice they want to be their authority.
Anonymous ID: jK+kYsQZUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 7:59:07 PM No.509235584
>>509234842
Reddit, Leftypol, Revleft, Libcom.
Literally all will ban you for holding any position that Marx himself agrees with, because it goes against the shitlib wokie shibboleths. God forbid you hold a position that is tangetally similar to a "Conservative" position, despite again, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Xi etc would 100% agree with your position. Because it's "adjacent" to a right wing point, it's automatically reactionary and wrong despite said position checking out through any Materialist analysis.
The average modern ""Communist"" rejects dialectical materialism, the Shitlib Thesis is always correct, there is no need for synthesis at all.
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Anonymous ID: bN3lslBRCanada
7/1/2025, 8:01:39 PM No.509235778
>>509233968 (OP)
It does what ever the ccp pays it to do.
It's goal is just to hold back western progress so chyna can be noombur wunn
Anonymous ID: loTBaeDW
7/1/2025, 8:06:22 PM No.509236141
>>509233968 (OP)
>As someone who has been a Communist since
kys pls
Anonymous ID: AzguDHZl
7/1/2025, 8:27:53 PM No.509237742
>>509235584
That's because those people are just cookie cutter liberals who just happen to like red flags. They don't care about the working people at all, in fact they mostly despise them, especially blue collar workers.
Anonymous ID: +6PzljREUnited States
7/1/2025, 8:27:54 PM No.509237743
>>509233968 (OP)
It may not have a basis in Orthodox Marxism but it does have a base in Frankfurt School Marxism. Marcuse literally advocated for weaponizing the lumpenproles and using them to tear down capitalist society.
Anonymous ID: MYVlWw/QUnited States
7/1/2025, 8:31:24 PM No.509238041
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>>509233968 (OP)
Ya no shit Sherlock, it's almost as if the same group of people used to call themselves atheists, or anarchists, or malthusians, or popularius, or whatever else is topical to excuse bad behavior and being a little shit. There will always be a counter culture, not to rebel against the state but to rebel against familism. Also those people who join these cults against order and never grow out of them become dangerous, and should not be allowed to live. Otherwise they do stupid shit like kill an arch duke or join a bunch of Jews in over throwing their government for an ice pick award.
Anonymous ID: US6XMRO+Switzerland
7/1/2025, 8:35:26 PM No.509238341
>>509233968 (OP)
idk growing up around punk rock culture it was always like fuck the system lets drink and be a menace. There was not real political point, just the society sucks and there is nothing we can do about it, so we decide to become ungovernable. Somehow modern punks are now full on activists and moralists. It's really disgusting. They are even worse than the banker class we disrespected and bullied back in the day.