Why was pederasty so common historically? - /pol/ (#509253598) [Archived: 674 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: TI1WtvVeUnited Kingdom
7/1/2025, 11:45:12 PM No.509253598
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>The ancient Greeks practiced an institutionalized form of pederasty where men were paired with boys in a sexualized, pedagogical relationship
>In Rome it was common for men to have sexual relations with boys, including various emperors; although later laws prohibited sex with freeborn boys, these laws were rarely enforced
>The majority of men in Renaissance Florence according to court records were implicated in sodomy with boys
>In Japan both Buddhist monks and Samurai practiced ritualized pederasty, these relationships were characterized by intense, mutual love; the practice continued until the Meiji era
>The Chinese practiced it for millennia, only gave it up in the 19th century due to upsetting Westerners
>Accepted practice in Korea for millennia, kings and nobility openly kept "boy-wives"
>The ancient Celts practiced pederasty according to various Greek and Roman sources
>Until the 19th century, it was common in Muslim societies; attraction to boys was viewed as common and comparable to attraction to women; although technically forbidden by the law, men still had sexual relations with boys
>Various tribes in Papua New Guinea believe pairing a man with a boy to anally or orally "inseminate" them is necessary for their development
>During the Nazi expedition to Tibet, it was discovered that pederasty was widespread among the monks
>Missionaries during the sixteenth and seventeenth century noted that pederasty was common among the Mayans, Aztecs, and Incans
>Countless other societies and many tribes around the world are noted by ethnographers to practice or have practiced pederasty

Yet today, the practice is universally abhorred, the attraction viewed as aberrant, and instead of being viewed as a positive relationship which is conducive to a boy's development, pederasty is invariably viewed as corruptive and traumatic.

How did the opinions of so many past societies change on this matter? Is there any place in modern society for these types of relationships?
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Anonymous ID: H/E6zqHyUnited States
7/1/2025, 11:50:26 PM No.509253966
suck my tongue
Anonymous ID: j8c+LPizUnited States
7/1/2025, 11:58:27 PM No.509254564
Why does HIS story always have to be fake and gay amalgamations of predatory, golem-making behavior? Anyway...
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Anonymous ID: YMbVjJpxGermany
7/2/2025, 12:03:01 AM No.509254927
>>509254564
But this is all true though.
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Anonymous ID: j8c+LPizUnited States
7/2/2025, 12:04:14 AM No.509255010
>>509254927
Says who?
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Anonymous ID: YMbVjJpxGermany
7/2/2025, 12:05:40 AM No.509255120
>>509255010
Which one of the accounts in OP do you doubt the veracity of?
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Anonymous ID: FqnGwMMxUnited States
7/2/2025, 12:06:07 AM No.509255157
>>509253598 (OP)
The place for these types of relationships is your childhood home where you were molested faggot.
Anonymous ID: Cn6N5wFHSouth Africa
7/2/2025, 12:07:05 AM No.509255228
>>509253598 (OP)
>Jews spent thousands on psyops to make themselves more acceptable
>This is what they came up with
saged
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Anonymous ID: ZU6AlfBbRomania
7/2/2025, 12:08:58 AM No.509255377
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OP is a jeet.
Anonymous ID: jYcG+P1nAustralia
7/2/2025, 12:12:51 AM No.509255837
>>509255228
It's true though, none of this is a psyop.
Anonymous ID: j8c+LPizUnited States
7/2/2025, 12:13:36 AM No.509255883
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>>509255120
The jesuit "translations" crafted to back up the unholy alliance's tactics with a historical record. Luther was correct.
>>509255228
Indeed.
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Anonymous ID: HmC70GW2United States
7/2/2025, 12:24:08 AM No.509256682
Why does op obsess about little boys and think he shouldn't get the wood chipper?

Sage
Anonymous ID: jYcG+P1nAustralia
7/2/2025, 12:24:30 AM No.509256703
>>509255883
Can't cope with the true historical record?
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Anonymous ID: j8c+LPizUnited States
7/2/2025, 12:31:44 AM No.509257255
>>509256703
>true historical record
Again, I will repeat, says or according to who?
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Anonymous ID: jYcG+P1nAustralia
7/2/2025, 12:33:39 AM No.509257401
>>509257255
There are a lot of claims in the OP, be more specific.
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Anonymous ID: j8c+LPizUnited States
7/2/2025, 12:41:02 AM No.509257950
>>509257401
Provide a primary source for ANY of those claims. Not extrapolation, guess-work, or speculation. A primary source. This is pilpul that keeps the kosher train chugging along. No, I am not going to "take your word for it".
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Anonymous ID: jYcG+P1nAustralia
7/2/2025, 12:43:13 AM No.509258134
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>>509257950
Xenophon talking about how pederasty is legal in the majority of Greek cities.
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Anonymous ID: jYcG+P1nAustralia
7/2/2025, 1:09:18 AM No.509260026
>>509257950
>>509258134
No response, guess you're coping.
Anonymous ID: rxNjFASYUnited States
7/2/2025, 1:11:41 AM No.509260179
It wasn’t. Most of the time it was just a mentor/pupil relationship, but Jews want you to believe all your ancestors were degenerate sodomites until Jews were benevolent enough to bestow Noahide law and the Torah onto them. Let us not forget that ancient Germanic tribes drowned homos in bogs and Roman writers praised their virtue for it.
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Anonymous ID: Sf0ttrL5Italy
7/2/2025, 1:13:51 AM No.509260332
>>509253598 (OP)
But people forgot that in every single occasion you listed we have sources about opinion and laws that were against homosexuality and pederasty

In general homosexuality was a pleasure of the cultivated higher classes

If you want to knlw why now homosexuality is more open and advocated, is because the quality of life and the free time of the common folk increased
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Anonymous ID: g63y4DeqItaly
7/2/2025, 1:17:28 AM No.509260570
>>509253598 (OP)
because people died by 30
Anonymous ID: jYcG+P1nAustralia
7/2/2025, 1:18:49 AM No.509260665
>>509260179
>ancient Germanic tribes drowned homos in bogs
The word Tacitus uses is "corpores infames", which he uses to refer to sexually passive men in another text, so this can't be taken as a condemnation of pederasty on behalf of Germanic peoples, as Roman society also disavowed sexual passivity while being supportive/ambivalent towards pederasty. Various sources converge on the fact that the Celts practiced pederasty, for example, this excerpt from Aristotle (who is praising the virtue of the Celts):
>So that in such a state riches will necessarily be in general esteem, particularly if the men are governed by their wives, which has been the case with many a brave and warlike people except the Celts, and those other nations, if there are any such, who openly practise pederasty. And the first mythologists seem not improperly to have joined Ares and Aphrodite together; for all nations of this character are greatly addicted either to the love of women or of boys,
-Aristotle, Politics

>>509260332
>But people forgot that in every single occasion you listed we have sources about opinion and laws that were against homosexuality and pederasty
Source?
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Anonymous ID: rxNjFASYUnited States
7/2/2025, 1:46:49 AM No.509262505
>>509260665
Xenophon wrote of the ancient ruler of Sparta, a place where pederasty was common, viewed sexual pedarasty in the same vein as incest.
Ancient sources also said that pederasty was responsible for the meteoric rise of Athens. Would that make sense if it was a sexual practice?
A law cited in the trial of Demarcus vs Atianus stated “any adult men caught sneaking into the schools or gymnasiums while boys were present would be put to death.
Aristotle said that sexual pederasty was a disease akin to “plucking out one’s own hair” arising from abuse as a child.
Plato, who is often cited by proponents of the belief secual pederasty was common, wrote that homosexual sex is “unnatural,” “an outrage upon nature,” “a capital surrender to the lusts of passion,” “makes one lower than an animal,” likened it to whoring, and said that “sexual intercourse between men should be once and for all prohibited.”