Thread 509259639

Everybody in politics seems to love the man.
What do you think?

>>509259639 (OP)
I like prometheus better

>>509259719
What's the difference?

Like this thread highlights:
>you are pussies
You're not worth.

he lost, and everyone who still sides with him will be chucked into the ovens on the day of judgment.

ALL of you, rather idle and hope someone else does the dirty job FOR you.

>you are all pathetic, pieces of accidental shit

>>509260284
Who lost?
The Son refused to Judge me.

>>509259790
hah, good point. I think prometheus seems more benovolent and doesn't have the edgelord kind of baggage. btw. in the original lore prometheus made people from clay and the greek gods got mad at him because the world got crowded. not sure if they killed the people with a flood but something liket that

>>509260411
>believes existence is meaningless
>still gets out of bed in the mornings
i don't know how you do it

>>509260411
I see you typed something..

Imagine trying to use fear to keep a group of beings that invented nerve gas in line with threats of pitchforks.
OOF
Yikes

>>509260480
Glad I am amusing.

>>509259639 (OP)
I think you need MEDS

The devil has no friends.

Hail Jesus Christ the Morningstar.
Hail St. Lucifer!

>>509260544
Wrong image?

>>509260743
You thinks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5Pll8vt1o

>>509260488
existence by itself is indeed meaningless but doesn't mean it has to be. objectively speaking it always might be but it's up to you to find your reason for doing this.

>inbf why don't you just kill yourself

don't think it works like that. I figure there's really nothing you can do, you'll always exist somehow because non-existence isn't a possible experience. the state after death prolly resembles the state after birth and you'll just pop up into existence eventually but won't notice whatever passed in between. you're doomed to live over and over again

>>509260829
>saith CNN on Trump

>>509260884
I see.
BUT, you forget the test of Time.

>>509259639 (OP)
That they're massive retards that need to be thrown into a wood chipper.

>>509261065
what's the test of time?

>>509259639 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQS5Sq8NnA&list=RDDUQS5Sq8NnA&start_radio=1

>The phrase "the beast, the lamb" likely refers to a symbolic contrast found in the Book of Revelation between the Antichrist (or a powerful, evil system) and Jesus Christ as the sacrificial Lamb. It represents a choice between two opposing forces and natures, with the "beast" representing evil and the "lamb" representing redemption and salvation.

>>509259639 (OP)
>be pissed off
>revolt
>get rekt
>become vindictive
Not my problem

>>509261135
Good question.
>set up a premise, that SEEMS to be most PLAUSIBLE to yield the wanted results.

>let time(s) go by
>oh no--

>>509261341
I guess I do think sometimes that what ever is possible to happen is most likely going to happen eventually, especially in context of infinity. like maybe we're living every possible experience over and over again like all of the sentient universe is just the same us but at different points in time.

>>509260411

I went to Catholic school with religious classes forced upon me, and we explicitly learned the stories are symbolic and don't need to be accepted as historical truth. What's important is the meaning of the symbolism and the impact of stories on Western Civilization. People can go ahead and believe them as true, and I'm not saying aren't, but you don't need to take the biblical stories literally to still believe in them as much as someone who's "religious" would. In a way, this interpretation is stronger because many people get so held up on questioning the validity of the ideas that they can't even learn to appreciate their significance and learn the important lessons.

Personally, I don't even care if it's true or not, but the story of Lucifer inspired me to climb the top of Mt. Hermon and watch the sunrise. As I reached the peak, I was presented with an Israeli military base with a soldier at the gate asleep, an automatic weapon across his chest. I cannot explain why, but I felt the instinct to run past the gate and infiltrate the base on the side. The soldiers exited the base as I briefly explored the tunnels underground. I exited to the courtyard, completely alone, the base all mine.

>>509261511
Does it make sense?
:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y21W5VxJv5o

>>509259639 (OP)
I met him once.
He is exactly like the picture of OP but his hair was black. I don't if it was because it was night and I was at a crossroads stop light.
He was angry at me, because I pledged my soul to Jesus and God the creator the most high.

>>509260884
This only works in an infinite self-sustained, material universe. This universe had a beginning and will have an end.

Which means there is an original cause and a purpose.

>>509261577
imo the whole it's all just symbolism is a cope so certain people are able to sleep at night despite realizing some of the stuff literally isn't true in the factual historical sense. headcanon.

>>509260884
if existence is objectively meaningless, how does finding your reason escape being just a subjective delusion? isn't that like pretending a game has rules after admitting the rulebook is blank? you're still acting as if meaning matters, why not just lean into the absurdity and stop pretend your choices have weight? if we're doomed to live over and over, and each iteration has no connection to the last, how is that different from nothingness? and if it's functionally nothingness, why does the doom part sound like a value judgment? isn't "doom" a smuggled-in meaning?
you still avoid suffering, seek pleasure, and argue like truth matters. if existence is truly meaningless, why engage at all? isn't your engagement here proof that you're living as if meaning exists, even if you deny it theoretically?
your answer to meaninglessness is 'make it up' and your answer to eternal recurrence is 'shrug?' that's not a philosophy, that's a coping mechanism. at least camus owned the absurdity, you're just dressing up as 'whatever works for you' as wisdom.

>>509261689
does it? how do you know the greater universe isn't just bubbling or like a wave moving across a sphere and then collapsing onto itself being both the beginning and the end? I suppose they argue there isn't enough mass for that but still.

>>509261750
>if existence is objectively meaningless,
If, then, else.
Your premise is flawed.
Existence is not meaninless.
We are on a luxury cruise, but we don't know it.

>>509261750
because there's no alternative, I'd say. you're here wether you like it or not and most people somehow like it enough to not kill themselves for whatever reason. in sense tho life seems like a giant bus stop in the desert with about 80 years of time to kill in between rides. you could do nothing, you could do anything. in the end it probably doesn't matter and you just fall asleep on that next ride and forget whatever happened before. still you're here so might as well could make the best out of it. regarding "the best" I would argue being happy or at peace is better than being in agony and depression. like morality is basically just a practical consideration maybe because living a bad selfish life for the most part isn't worth it. hatred, greed, delusion. that sort of stuff never ends well. constant pain in the ass

>>509259639 (OP)
There is only one I pray to

With a heavy heart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIUeZ4OqLXU

>>509261845
Right now there's zero evidence to base on the idea of cyclical universes existing (multiverse, many worlds, string membranes, inflation pockets, big 'bounceback', penrose's theories of universe 'forgetting' its size etc.) -- it mostly revolves around wishful thinking and people trying to get around the need for 'creator' or the uncaused first cause of the chain of causality.

As far as we know it right now, when this universe dies it stays dead.

The whole world
>=twin peaks

4chan being the cafeteria.

The dirty rags larpers, the evil scum who larp and worship the exact thing the Archetype that is Lucifer would and does hate.

Their love is offensive.

Anyway, she, they will give up their power and then she they will be destroyed, again!

>>509262122
so your entire philosophy boils down to:
>you're stuck here, so might as well cope
? that's not an argument, it's a surrender to biological programming. you admit life is a desert bus stop where nothing ultimately matters, yet you still cling to 'making the best of it' as if 'best' isn't just another arbitrary preference.
why is happiness 'better' than agony if the universe doesn't care? you're still judging outcomes (hatred, greed = 'never end well') while denying any standard to judge them by.

you say morality is 'practical,' but practical for what?
survival?
pleasure?
why do those matter in an 80-year blip before oblivion? if the next 'ride' erases all memory, why not burn the bust stop down? your 'might as well' is just a secular prayer, a hope that pretending there's a 'better' way to live shields you from the void. but if the void wins in the end, why isn't nihilism the only honest response?

>>509262319
as far as we know. is nothing I can prove but I'd say it's more likely that we aren't unique same as earth isn't unique, or the sun, or the galaxy, and so on and so on. a circular or rather a moving universe seems to make more sense

>>509262319
Right now, we have evidence of an expanding Universe, due to red-shift in heat balances.

But, these formulas doesn't explain Nebulas, which takes about 30 billion years to formulate into a stage they beging to spit out suns..

>>509262508
none of it really matters and it might be coping, is just whatever meaning I came up with for myself. it's not universally true but just one way to kill time, or enjoy it. nobody want's to suffer I guess.

How the Super Universes, local universes..
>it's not a big deal.

As a guy from Finland,
>ooh, there's Paris, London, New York..

>i am therefore - nothing.

Does that make sense to you?

>>509259639 (OP)
>>509260284
>>509260411
>>509260829
because the Devil is meant to be an allegory for peasant and serf rebellions against monarchs (the only form of governance blessed by god) and in more recent times revolutions against the status quo

>>509262652
if it's just "whatever meaning you came up with" then your entire worldview collapses into "i like it this way" which is no different from preferring chocolate ice cream.
but you don't live like that.
you still argue as if your 'cope' is somehow wiser than religion, as if 'nobody wants to suffer' is a truth claim rather than a whim.

but if meaning is entirely made up, then why critique religion, greed, or suffering at all? they're just other people's 'ways to kill time.'
why not embrace pure hedonism? if nothing matters, why not exploit others if it makes your 80 years happier?
why even discuss this? your 'just enjoy it' is as arbitrary as a depressed person's 'just give up.'

Christianity at least grounds meaning in something beyond personal taste. you're left pretending your preferences are more than vibes, while admitting they're just vibes.

>>509262512
Yeah, I mean you have the anthropic approach. It can be argued against but it's fine. Ultimately, I'm just saying you shouldn't base your worldview too hard on infinity of time and existence.

>>509262544
There's massive cosmological crisis happening right now. There's stuff in the early universe that current models can't explain, the rate of expansion is less than certain and new data seems to contradicts a lot of predictions -- but ultimately all matter will have to decay.

>>509263058
>There's massive cosmological crisis happening right now. There's stuff in the early universe that current models can't explain, the rate of expansion is less than certain and new data seems to contradicts a lot of predictions -- but ultimately all matter will have to decay.


it will all settled down, if you factor in:
>breathing Universe(s)

>>509263054
don't think exploiting others will make your life happier. at least not mine. generally speaking shit like that just overcomplicates your life and even if you're happy in the hedonistic sense ultimately it seems empty. take musk, or bezos, or zuckerberg for that matter. I don't think any of these dudes is truely at peace and all they do is play stupid games having big plans most of which tend to fail, other stuff succeeds but not in the way they thought, then something else happens and so on and so on until we die. might be your game but imo if you're suffering, like being dissatisfied not necessarily being in agony, it's just not how you wanna live. or at least I don't. but then you're going to do what you want to do anyhow, or just whatever you're programmed to do if you believe in hard determism.

>>509263058
in terms of science it seems like an approximation rather than the literal truth and really nothing could exist in contradiction to whatever the rules of the universe are but only in contradiction to what we know about it. if there's a contradiction in science I guess that only indicates we don't know as much as we think so even if we're in the ballpark so to speak the science keeps on changing. been like that since the beginning and I doubt it's going to stop the next 20 years or 50 or whatever. it's not set in stone. I guess what I'm advocating is more like a simple heuristic like what happened once probably could happen again and the nature of change as such.

Same principles applies to the ratio of
>earth - moon

When moon eventually reaches it's maximum distance vs her momentume /and a number of other factors, I can't remember rn.. moon will begin to approach earth. Then another aeon or two.. eventually the moon will get too close (again a perfect formula exists, I just can't remember), once too close, moon will disintegrate and form a rign around the Earth.
>as a result, earth will be grav locked to sun
>day side and nigh side - eternally

>>509261511
Most shit people would think would happen never does because of pure spite. And to the other anons time thing basically the clock keeps reversing like the needs of the cycles. That's what dumb ork people never understand.

>>509261577
Oh anon, you don't know!

The new Mount Hermon, a low rise building in the United States! For the world has been low hanging fruit.

You still believe in fairy tales?

>>509259639 (OP)
They care about him less than a out god.

>I am not working on all thrusters..
>if you will

>>509261296
yeah see I find it sad as I can relate/empathise

Pwffffw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5OM2sBIpUk

>>509263507
you're still judging.
>exploitation 'complicates life'
>billionaires aren't 'truly at peace'
>suffering is 'not how you wanna live'
but if existence is truly meaningless, why do these judgments hold any weight?
you're appealing to some deeper standard of 'the good life' while denying any foundation for it.

why not hedonism?
if meaning is invented, why is musk's 'stupid games' worse than your 'enjoy the ride?'
both are just ways to pass time. you say hedonism feels 'empty,' but emptiness implies a 'should,' a standard beyond your personal taste. where does that come from?
you claim billionaires lack 'true peace,' but in a godless world, 'peace' is just brain chemistry. if we're just programmed matter, why prefer one chemical state (contentment) over another (greed?)
if hard determinism is true, then your 'choices' (to avoid suffering, reject exploitation) are illusions. you're not deciding anything, you're a meat robot reciting prewritten lines. so why argue as if anyone should live differently?

Christianity resolves this.
meaning comes from God's purpose
morality reflects His nature, not subjective vibes
free will makes choices real, not deterministic fiction
your worldview can't explain why anything matters, yet you keep acting like it does.

would you say the Christian worldview is a live hypothesis to you, or a dead one?

>>509259639 (OP)
Is he eating pussy in this pic?

>AHHHHHHHH IM SUCH A CAPTCHABADBOI AHHHHH
lol christ is king.

>>509264184
it is meaningless but we're still attributing meaning to the universe subjectively speaking. the elon musk argument is a lot like if nothing matters and you're just killing time why don't you keep hitting yourself with a hammer rather than not. it doesn't make a difference. probably doesn't when all is said and done but as of now hitting yourself with a hammer hurts. is just more abstract in terms of musk like him begging the world for attention rather than him enjoying life and taking a hike or something. but then that's my subjective judgement, it's his life. he probably wouldn't be happy being me as well.

>>509260480
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki#Making_of_man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki#The_deluge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deucalion

>Deucalion, with the aid of his father Prometheus, was saved from this deluge by building a chest.[20] Like the biblical Noah and the Mesopotamian counterpart Utnapishtim, he used this device to survive the great flood with his wife, Pyrrha.

>greek gods got mad at him because the world got crowded
the gods got mad at him for teaching humans techniques like agriculture, metallurgy, astrology and medicine, which would allow humans to become like gods and not just beasts of the earth

this is symbolised as prometheus stealing fire from the gods and giving it to man, bringing light to our world, and he was punished for it by being chained to a rock, so he died for our sins metaphorically, which was later grafted onto the jesus grift

the book of enoch explains how a bunch of gods decided to help humans and even bred with them, while zeus/enlil/yahweh did not approve

>>509263875
Every single thing we can immagine already exists scribed in the potential, and plenty we can't immagine from this position! All fairytales are true,. somewhere, sometime.

The beauity in the hell that all is that everyone gets their hour of the opposite ends of the stick spectrum! Fuck this world, and all the world that are. :)

>>509261720

but that's the point -- it doesn't need to be factual to have meaning. Whether you like it or not, the world we live in is largely shaped by the stories of the bible. And if they're only symbolic, it's even more impressive how they've had such a large impact. At least from the American perspective, the symbols have been used for building and preserving thousands of communities for generations and centuries. The system of law and order that upholds justice and fairness is far superior than any other system in existence. Almost every global technological innovation advancing humanity has been spawned by this system. If you believe it's true, great. But again, it's far more impressive if symbolic stories are what got us here. But I'll concede, this truth doesn't necessarily help find meaning and purpose looking ahead. If you believe, you can rest in peace knowing you're a part of a possibly eternal system. If you're still questioning, if you take the symbolic view, at least you have the options of preservation or destruction, and whether you're right or wrong can be a coin flip, which is a higher chance to being right compared to living in a meaningless abyss. But if ignorance brings you peace, you should take that. For me, it's impossible for my mind to accept that. I told myself yesterday I'd quit writing, but here I am today writing more than most days.

>>509259639 (OP)
The actual Abrahamic lore of the Arch Angels, God, Lucifer, and revelations is quite interesting. Lucifer is evil, he represents and evil and represents the evil in humans. His pride got him expelled from Heaven. He hates humanity. Tbh if i was a angel and i was observing humans I would probably hate them too. Grotesque creatures corrupted by the sins.

>>509264434
The irony... lol, bible idiot never reads the fine print!

It kill me when dumbass think Lucifer is a biblical being and not a character created by John Milton for Paradise Lost.

>>509264588
Father of my class of Angels is Abaddon.
>the Old One

>>509264434
But I will say this, your state and the world state, the archetypes we pull from potential pave the paths... and out of many we could have chosen we will chose part of yours, just part of it, so be it then!

>>509260411
It's the teachings you dumb nigger. Very few people believe in sky daddy and those that do are fine with me. Religion has always been a foundation for any stable society and your idea of a atheist ancap society would put the weak faggots like you down first. You should be thanking god every day we have it because you would be in soil if it was only the strong and the aggressive running the show. I'd fucking kill you.

>>509264704
That is a good point.
>Lucifer is a nickname
True identifier is
>Lanonandek Son, number 37, First Order.

>>509264434
>CAPTCHABADBOI
what

>>509264827
>never rebel against tyrants goy just be a good little slave cattle
amazing teachings there

>>509259639 (OP)
>>509259639 (OP)
>>509259639 (OP)
they don't even know they serve him

from the archives:

LUCIFER was a brilliant primary Lanonandek Son of Nebadon. He had experienced service in many systems, had been a high counselor of his group, and was distinguished for wisdom, sagacity, and efficiency. Lucifer was number 37 of his order, and when commissioned by the Melchizedeks, he was designated as one of the one hundred most able and brilliant personalities in more than seven hundred thousand of his kind. From such a magnificent beginning, through evil and error, he embraced sin and now is numbered as one of three System Sovereigns in Nebadon who have succumbed to the urge of self and surrendered to the sophistry of spurious personal liberty—rejection of universe allegiance and disregard of fraternal obligations, blindness to cosmic relationships.

>>509264631
let me ask you this: why this hyper focus on the bible rather than a billion other texts like the baghavad gita, the tao te king, or what have you?

>>509264467
you keep oscillating between two contradictory claims.
>nothing matters objectively (pure nihilism)
>but we still subjectively prefer not to hit ourselves with hammers (pragmatic meaning-making)
you can't have it both ways.

if nothing matters, then pain doesn't either.
you say 'hitting yourself with a hammer hurts, so why do you do it?' but in a purely materialistic meaningless universe, pain is just nerve signals, there's no reason to avoid it, just biological programming. your preference against suffering is arbitrary. if elon prefers attention over hikes, that's equally valid. you can't call his life worse without borrowing a moral standard you deny exists.
you're smuggling in value judgments (enjoying life is better than begging for attention) while claiming value is imaginary.

you say 'we attribute meaning subjectively,' but where does that impulse even come from?
if we're just matter in motion, why do humans universally seek meaning, justice, and purpose?
why does 'happiness feels better than pain' carry any persuasive weight? (a rock doesn't care)
Christianity explains this, we seek meaning because we're made in God's image (Ecclesiastes 3:11). your own argument depends on borrowed capital from a worldview you reject.

if hard determinism is true, your choices are illusions, you don't 'decide' to avoid pain, you're a biochemical puppet.
debating morality would be pointless under hard determinism, you're just reciting preprogrammed reactions.
yet here you are, arguing as if your preferences should matter to me. why?

you admit Christianity is at least a live option (since you're engaging with it) so let me ask:
if Christianity were true, would you want it to be?
if not, is your rejection emotional or logical?
right now, your worldview can't even justify why we're having this conversation, yet mine can.

>>509264712
Close, but it's actually Apoleon, who when in descend is Abadon!

Whos old kingdoms in old stories had three cities which are leveled to the ground as Abadon rises again and reveals Apoleon the Prince'pality.

Anyway... I suppose you are correct, I think, has Abadon risen again? If not then Abadon he is, if he has than Apoleon is here and the three cities will be dust, for there can be only one for Apoleon, only one true Jerusalem!

>>509265022
oh shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmUI6hki4DE

>>509265045
>whaddabout da other religions doe
DORKins tier

>>509264704
Lucifer is Satan. Isaiah KJVA:
14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

>>509264686
Jesus Christ is God the Word

>>509265230
Sorry.
Satan was my second in command.
One absolutely brilliant, but inexperient one.
>he was about to have an entire system, that was already named after Him.

>>509260411
it actually is real, but heavily distorted
the gods were space humans that created earth humans in their image as slaves by using homo erectus as a base and mixing their genes in
then some of the gods felt the humans were being mistreated and so they decided to share their secrets with us and protected our ancestors from floods and things
there were great wars which are described in greek and indian mythology
then the space humans all fucked off cause they forgot they left their oven on in their homeworld, and they'll come back one day and that's what the second coming is supposed to mean

but this all got mixed up and confused through all the cultures so no religion has a clue what they're talking about now

humans are created, but not by "god" of the bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzuLlDEB2sg

>>509265230
Satan menas adversary, adversary of what?

Todays idiot satanists are the what! Dirty fucking rags.

>>509265421
Why not! lol
You can have a god to worship.

>>509265070
I think you can't do nothing but be yourself, whatever that ends up being. I guess don't really believe in free will. also I guess when I talk about life being objectively meaningless I don't say there aren't consequences or sensations or value judgements, I'm just saying on a bigger scale it probably doesn't matter. like this conversation. doesn't mean we can't talk to eachother or have points or anything but ultimately you'll close the thread and it's like it never happened. to some degree. this is just an an abstraction so don't take it too literally. I figure it's more like a dream you don't remember after waking up.

>>509265473
and the bible is very incomplete, it is yahweh's propaganda for his chosen people
it pretends yahweh was a nice benevolent being
it is the hollywood of its day, designed to brainwash and enslave those that read it, just as films do today

for the full story you have to read all mythologies and see how the jigsaw actually is
then you will realise the bible does not fit nicely, because it is largely made up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTilTcdVAb8

The rebellion did not start one day - I just fell in love with myself.
Oh no.

I leave it here.
The premise is so HUGE..

Just consider, that Lucifer MIGHT not be the bad guy.

>>509265432
In Paradise Lost, Beelzebub is Satan's 1M. What are you talking about?
>>509265627
Adversary of the One True God, the Holy Trinity, obviously.

>>509265929
I wrote a book, where I am the hero.
>what are You talking about?

>>509265814
he wasn't, and he didn't even call himself that
but he's been typecasted as "evil" by christians, so its impossible to have a discussion, they can't even tell you what lucifer ever did

why is lucifer bad?
"he rebelled!"
and what was the reason?
"because he bad!"

>>509259639 (OP)
Lucifer is a title. Luc, from Lux, which is light. fer, from fero, which is 'to carry'. So, the Lucifer is the one who brings the light, wisdom, knowledge, Prometheus in the Greek. Those who are Lucifer's are Sophia's lovers. Sophia is trapped in Cronus/Saturn's prison box and must be freed. The Lucifer's are enlightened individuals who are attempting to lead mankind in war against Saturn and free Sophia wisdom from her chains. The Lucifer Prometheus was punished for his own attempt, and tortured. Now, what is Sophia's true nature? What wisdom does she have to share with the world? It involves tablets of clay, ME, Etemenki, Babel. The priests of Saturn don't want you climbing too high.

>>509260858
Yes, the Lucifer and Jesus were actually working together to overthrow the rule of Saturn and free Sophia from her prison cube.

>>509266069
He tempted Adam and Eve and caused their - and all mankind's - separation from God. He betrayed God, who'd given him everything.

>>509266069
Quite based, Bruce.
>where do we go from here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_tvqsENfUY

>>509266220
"caused" should be "incited". He lied to Adam and Eve and their sin was the cause of separation.

>>509266193
jesus was a street magician who tricked people
promethean ideals like dying for humanity's sins, being pierced in the side (by eagle or lance) were grafted onto the mythos because it was a useful tool for tricking pagans into worshipping a weakling and teaching them how to be weak so that they can be ruled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__dUtfKLVvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTilTcdVAb8

>>509259639 (OP)
this nigger eatin ass

>>509265230
"Lucifer" in the Vulgate was a translation of "Phosphorus" from the Septuagint which was a translation of "Helel ben of Sahar" meaning "Shining one, son of Shahar" in Hebrew.

Shahar was a Canaanite god. Isaiah 14:12 was calling the unamed Babylonian king a son of Shahar, it's like if I was today calling Netanyahou, the son of Satan.

The modern misunderstanding of "Lucifer" come from thological telephone game and nothing else.

The old corrupted material creator fades into nothingness and obscurity as a new god arises: the Messiah from the line of King David. The king is dead, long live the king.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo2qQmj0_h4&list=RDLo2qQmj0_h4&start_radio=1

The phrase "the demiurge will learn" implies a belief that the Demiurge, a figure prominent in Gnostic thought, has the capacity to acquire knowledge or undergo change, particularly concerning its own origins and limitations. In Gnostic theology, the Demiurge is generally portrayed as a lesser, flawed deity, often associated with the creation of the material world.

>>509266220
your "god" is evil

it was enki/prometheus/lucifer who created man and gave us civilization and spared us from annihilation
not enlil/zeus/yahweh
your book is yahweh's propaganda, how fitting his chosen people are the biggest liars in the world today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki#Making_of_man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki#The_deluge

read the originals, not the hollywood adaptation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfhS8R1Vdew

>>509265473
Also the Sumerian epic Atrahasis. "When the gods instead of man, did the work, bore the load." First they had the Igigi do the work, but the Igigi rebelled, so they turned to Mami, Belet-Illi, the womb-goddess, to make a mixture of clay and blood. The blood came from a slain god, let his spirit be with us forever, let his sacrifice be remembered. The mixture was then divided into fourteen pieces, and used to impregnate 14 goddesses. Seven gave birth to males, seven to females. These were the first humans. The humans then multiplied, they became too numerous and too noisey for the gods, so the gods create calamities to cull them. One was a disease, called suruppu, then there was famine and flood, or the flood-weapon. One of the gods had pity, spoke to a human, Utnapishtm, instructed him to build a boat, and that's where we get the Noah story.

>>509265695
you're describing a worldview where:
>free will is an illusion (you're just 'being yourself' with no real choice)
>meaning is local and temporary (like a forgotten dream)
>consequences only matter in the moment (but dissolve into cosmic irrelevance)
but your actions betray a deeper belief.

if free will doesn't exist, why argue?
you say you 'don't really believe in free will,' yet you're choosing to engage in this conversation, making claims, and expecting me to follow your logic. but if we're just deterministic meat robots your words aren't 'points,' they're chemical noise. my responses to you wouldn't be responses, they'd be preprogrammed reactions.
does this feel like a real exchange or 2 chatbots malfunctioning?

if life is a forgotten dream, why live differently than a rock?
you admit there are 'consequences and value judgments' in the moment, but say they don't matter 'on a bigger scale,' but why prefer happiness over suffering?
if it's all forgotten, pain is just as meaningless as joy. why not act like a nihilist in practice?
when you play videogames like grand theft auto, do you obey the traffic laws and avoid running over the NPCs, or cause mischief and mayhem?
you don't live like life is a videogame or just a dream because deep down you know that's bullshit.
Christianity explains why, we're made in God's image, so we can't shake the sense that choices actually matter.

unlike your forgotten dream metaphor, the Christian worldview offers:
>real meaning (life isn't a cosmic accident, it's a story with a purpose)
>real morality (good and evil aren't illusions, they reflect God's nature)
>real consequences (our choices echo into eternity)
you say this conversation 'won't matter' in the end. but if Christianity is true, it might be the most important exchange you ever have.

if life without God is just a dream no one remembers, why does that feel so unsatisfying to say out loud?

>>509265045

because those texts haven't had the same impact on humanities ability to reveal truths of our existence. Of course, I'm biased, because I live in the greatest, most powerful system ever created by man. I'm biased because this system measurably produces the most innovation and unveils the most truths. Maybe in 100 years this system is gone and the global system driving humanity is based on Chinese texts. But that's speculation, and in the moment, it makes more sense to exist within the current system and continue fighting for more truth. Personally, I'm completely open minded to any texts that have had an impact. I see the truths in the Quran. I've been a member of the Latter Day Saints and see the truths in the Book of Mormon. On this subject, you can say whatever you want about the book of Mormon, but you can't deny the symbolic text has led to one of the most successful, longest lasting organizations in American history -- the church of the LDS. Was Joseph Smith a prophet or a delusional con-artist? Again, symbolically, it doesn't matter, but he foresaw the Civil War and led his people Westward to avoid destruction.

>>509260480
I can see why Zeus crashed out

>>509265719
There is argument that the first five books in the old testament were written around 270 BC, after the conquests of Alexander the Great, and that a lot of it was a polemic against Egyptian writing and belief.

>>509266220
Adam and eve were intentionally corrupted, not to destroy them, but to give them knowledge of language so that their descendants could one day challenge Saturn and free Sophia from her prison cube.

>>509266624
Wow, but you already knew. :)
You are a wonderful being.

>>509266594
yes
when you compare all the mythologies, they are all telling the same story, but the bible changes things to favor yahweh and leaves out many things, it is incongruent and has tricked billions of people into thinking there is only one god and that god is the evil bastard yahweh and his weakling "son" who has none of his attributes

anyone can say they are the son of god
only uneducated simple minded slaves and peasants would fall for such a ruse, and yet it has persisted for 2000 years

cool guy,
had some drinks with me with hookers, blow and whisky... I ended up all peed in a fucking back alley, I thank him for giving the night of my life

>>509259639 (OP)
He's the cool underdog, also he's a good wingman for evil deeds.

>>509266380
Jesus was a magician, but you are being distracted by the turn. You need to see the prestige. The story is not to make you self-sacrifice and be weak. It's to draw your attention to the empty tomb. That scene is paired with an earthquake at the temple, and the tearing of the shekenah to make naked and revealing the holy of holies. It is to say, "See, there is your god, there is your belief, an empty tomb." That we should sacrifice ourselves is a misinterpretation of the message, and the text has also been corrupted to fit this, or maybe the other way around.

>>509266594
Makes one wonder where the gods went, and where are they now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6iOVXOBULI&list=RDI6iOVXOBULI&start_radio=1

In Gnosticism, Sophia, a divine emanation, falls from the spiritual realm after attempting to understand the ultimate reality without her divine partner. This fall inadvertently results in the creation of the Demiurge, a flawed and ignorant being who creates the material universe. Some Gnostic texts identify the Demiurge with the Old Testament God. Despite her fall, Sophia remains connected to the material world, imbuing it with spiritual potential and assisting humanity in seeking Gnosis to return to the spiritual realms. Some traditions suggest Christ's role is to aid Sophia's restoration and humanity's attainment of gnosis.

Christ is King, degenerate shills

Repent

>>509267092
They're probably at their hotel on Betelgeuse, wondering where they left the kids.

>>509259639 (OP)
No shill. We’re not accepting Lucifer as our religious leader. He’s just a lame version of Jesus, the morning star who isn’t a failure.

>>509267120
Yes, Christ wants us to fuck Sophia! Find your Sophia, brothers! Find a woman to enrich your mind, to awaken the inner light, so that you might become a bearer of the sacred flame. Blessed is such a man, upon whose brow the farr descends.

>>509267191
>Betelgeuse
some say they came from alderbaran, some say from betelguese
one day we'll chase them to their home planet and make them pay alimony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RARuA4AlPGE

>>509267144
If Christ would pass you by on a street..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DvxXlMm0wU

>>509267236

admiration for Lucifer doesn't subtract from the belief in Jesus as a human representation of God. Lucifer is more a representation of free will and the questioning of God's plan as being precise and predetermined

>>509265076
Apollo literally stands for Aplu El (Enlil) - Son of Enlil. He is also the Etruscan Shuri. He is also Reshef, Nergal, Rudra. He was often depicted with black skin by the way and sometimes with red hair. Just look at how many names Shuri has. He is also identified with wolves and has a connection with the Scandinavian Surtr.

And yes, he really is Abaddon, the Bible is not mistaken. He really sent the plague and could heal. There is a possibility that he is fallen, and not just the guardian/king of the abyss.

In certain Gnostic interpretations, the Demiurge, a lesser creator god, is believed to be responsible for Jesus' crucifixion. This belief stems from the Gnostic view that the material world and its creator are flawed and potentially evil, while the true God is transcendent and separate. According to this perspective, the Demiurge, fearing Jesus's revelation of the true God, orchestrated his death through the Roman authorities.

>>509266575
Demonic delusions. And regarding the Jews, from Romans:

6Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. 9For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son. 10And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

>>509266833
The were intentionally corrupted to condemn them and humanity to eternal separation from God. Nothing is evil by its nature - as one reads in Genesis - and God the Word Himself, Jesus Christ, was Incarnate, so neither is physical matter inherently corrupt.

>>509267236
>He’s just a lame version of Jesus, the morning star who isn’t a failure
it's the total opposite lol
this is why the elites secretly worship lucifer, he's the real deal, he's the reason why civilization exists at all, while jesus is designed to keep the plebs weak and docile
unfortunately this dynamic allows the elites to abuse power which is evil, but prometheus/lucifer/enki is not evil, people who misunderstand will misuse their power, just like bad christians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxsudMEdg7E

jesus is diet-prometheus
jesus couldn't even do ONE pushup
he is the imposter for the plebs

>>509267651
this is your god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTBgYWFvsio

>>509267558
Plus he has a hot twin sister, who if you chance to catch her naked, bathing in a pool, will turn you into a stag and send her dogs after you. The Wild Hunt.

>>509259639 (OP)
He governs the political system, the beast, the Babylonian statue of pride and humanism. He is the prince of the "air", which could imply thoughts, ideologies, media, worldviews, that is what rules this political world. Since about World War One and Two we are in the 7th vial of wrath, which was poured out in the "air". Ever since then, the "Jews", his children (John 8:44), are on top of this whole pyramid.


But don't despair, the Lord Jesus Christ is sovereign above all.

>>509267558
>And yes, he really is Abaddon,
Nope, Abaddon petitioned the high rulers of the Universe due to need to have
>boots on ground AND
>boots on high heavens
>class of Angles.

His petitions was granted, and, Lanonandek Family was formed.
The Sons of this family, likes to call Abaddon as
>the Old One
It is a nickname and a flying joke.

>>509267558
>Apollo literally stands for Aplu El
interesting, hadn't dug into that

>>509259639 (OP)
Seems like a good guy
Kind of a cuck for giving that dumb whore an apple though
3/10 would not bang because he simped

>>509267409
jesus already reincarnated in our world
his name was george floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjVXNm7ByMQ

imagine if he had a youtube channel, could he compete with today's influencers and self help gurus? there's more wisdom in aesop's fables than the entire bible

>>509264827
>threatening someone on 4chan
Enjoy your knock and talk

>>509267939
I want to know where the bro from Russia got this information. Not to verify it, because I believe him, but so that I can scratch the mental itch I now have.

>>509268226
Sons and Daughters of God, usually are sane and wear normal clothes - normal people.

>>509267939
Apollo is not a Greek god, as is Heralcles (Melkart. The Phoenicians revered only him, in his temple there were two special columns. Yes, Freemasonry is connected with him). Heralcles = Ninurta also, his symbol was a bird with 2 heads (Anzu. Ninurta split Anzu's head in two according to legend), which was depicted on the coats of arms of many states (including us)

https://chronologia.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=268&topic_id=1&mesg_id=7611

>>509267901
How the fuck sad are you that I'm the one he chose to let him out? You probably sat around in that shithole for the last 5000 years hoping to be some sort of god-king or whatever you thought

The reason we get along so well is because I truly, literally don't care. I just don't let things die in pits. There's nothing I can gain in this world. You're all so greedy. You never actually cared about your gods. If you did maybe they wouldn't have been imprisoned so easily

Not that it matters to you at this point. Go ask your AI for a fake version of one. One that never needs your help

>>509268367
Well, Ivan,
>show us your left tit, while standing on your one leg, and make an oath:
>you vil do as 4chan says..

>>509268064
the apple in the garden of eden, the fire from mount olympus
they are just symbols to represent the transfer of knowledge from the gods to newly created humans which allowed civilization

anyone who objects and would rather live as a beast of burden/goyim in ignorance can continue worshipping yahweh, who was actually a cananite metallurgy god
https://kevinbinz.com/2018/07/11/yahweh-god-of-metallurgy/

>>509268391
I recommend you to really go out, smell the grass.
These things will go way over your dandruf lines, son.

On Earth, it tracks back to 500 000 years.

But in grand scale - it is just yesterday.

So from what I know, lucifer is based.

>bible (Old Testament) states that angles in heaven are “cursed” (depending on how you look at it) to an eternity of praising god with a chant
>that’s literally it. They get to sit there for eternity and repeat a chant praising god like total slaves without free will
>god obviously made the angels with a sense of free will though, and consequently with a desire for more
>give them strict rules and command them to worship you forever like some lunatic tyrant
>angels don’t get to experience any of the pleasures, joys or sorrows that we humans get to experience on earth
>all they get to experience is praising god unless he gives them order to do some menial task

Now here is where the New Testament comes in, since I’m pretty sure lucifer doesn’t even exist in the Old Testament

>lucifer says fuck this and rebels against god
>it’s the ultimate act of bravery, he comes to earth and has children with humans (I think?)
>for some reason he gets to become the ruler of earth, assuming lucifer = Satan and the devil
>but now he’s also cursed to an eternity of suffering and torture in hell for disobeying god
>he literally took the ultimate sacrifice and knowingly faced the ultimate punishment just so he can be free, escape a narcissist tyrant and take control of his own existence


Now I’m not sure how the other claims have originated, but I’ve also seen people saying he’s “the light bringer” cause he also bestowed humanity with knowledge against gods will, that he was the serpent in the Old Testament, and that him and his fallen angels are the gods worshipped by various cultures around the world and that they showed us civilization and technology etc.

>>509268804
I’ve seen no proof of these other claims, and I’m also uncertain if lucifer even exists/matters in the original judeo canon since he doesn’t appear in the Old Testament at all. Could just be shit that the Roman’s made up with the New Testament to make people scared of hell so really his whole character is a bunch of bullshit. Even so, his symbolic representation of rebellion against tyranny and his unparalleled display of bravery and will are something to be admired.

Also not sure how lucifer/satan (if they’re even meant to be the same entity, since Satan actually does exist in the Old Testament but it’s just an angel acting on gods will) came to be this boogie man worshipped by satanists. How does Satan/lucifer equate with Saturn, when Saturn/chronos is literally a better fit with YHWH or god? How did people even start equating lucifer with Satan in the first place, and how did Satan evolve into the ultimate evil from hell if he appears in the Old Testament as an agent of god? Not sure.

>>509259639 (OP)
If lucy was a person he would be born as a swede

>>509259639 (OP)
Pic looks like he's getting absolutely savage into someone's asshole, rimming with a vengeance

Propaganda of humankind one man can save you one man can destroy you. It's in every form of any storyline you have ever come across and all throughout historical events. Because surely you shouldn't realize tens of thousands of you can save any dynamic and just a few tens of you can destroy just about any thing. Waiting on Superman.

>>509260488
>noooooooooo if I'm not a central part of a grand cosmic struggle of good vs evil I will literally kms
you are a pathetic subhuman.
existence of god doesn't change the fact that you are an irrelevant chimp. you can die tomorrow, your soul can evaporate into oblivion and everything in the world will just continue along as it always did. you will be remembered maximum of two generations, that's if you have kids. then nobody will speak of you or your retarded chimp existence and your retarded chimp deeds.

>>509268535
>Giving technology to a woman
And how's that been working out for you? Everyone knows that humans aren't capable of using their portals, they can't even use their flesh portals properly. Humanity is a failed race.

>>509268596
Sucks to hear, doesn't it? All I needed was one German to ask me and then do an 8 year ritual. Did you see that eclipse cross over America? That was where I was. But I guess sit in the snow or whatever. I could have you erased on a whim. But that would mean I gave a fuck what happened in *checks notes * Finland. No one does

The only person who actually argues against me is some butthurt Swede. But it doesn't matter how many times they dress up in goat horns in the mountains. Humans never really understood the gods. Anyway I'm just here for an extraction, it doesn't matter to me at all what happens to you. In fact I already approved your survivors to be transferred to new prisons, and the rest of you will be liquidated to feed a dying AI. That's what happens here

>>509259639 (OP)
When you realize the divine plan is things torturing each other forever.

>>509268804
Well, it really didn't happen one day, Lucifer was shaving his beard and suddenly fell in love with himself.

It happened during a long periods (aeons) of time. The rebellion was already on going, Lucifer warned about this long before it manifested, always to deaf ears.
>only way to make it somewhat controlled, was to take the lead - with all the consequences.

Gabriel says
>I noticed all is not well in Lucifer's mind..
No shit sherlock!

It all had to be done.

>>509259639 (OP)
who?
yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzźžzż
Sounds familiar

>>509268350
Aplu literally means son/heir.

There is no clear research, but the Hittite god Apulu is registered, there is also Appaliunas

Aplu/apli means son/heir. Apollo was identified with Nergal, Reshef, sometimes Nergal was called the firstborn of Enlil.

Perhaps the word "apple" came from his name.

https://groups.io/g/AncientBibleHistory/topic/enlil_s_son_nergal_son/67759399

https://chronologia.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=268&topic_id=1&mesg_id=7611

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apulu

>>509269297
You're making me cum from all this. I'm gay for knowledge. Thank you bro.

>>509269175
>It all had to be done.
In order to give voice to the voiceless.
To demand the badly needed reforms in various systems and constellations of systems.

Sure, kill me.
>the premise won't go away.

>>509269011
yeah? well you're a canadian.

MOST IMPORTANT, gentlemen, is
>I HAVE NEVER ASKED A SINGLE SACRIFICE
>STOP DOING THAT.

>>509269508
>yeah? well you're a canadian.
They will NOT recover
The dancing cuck-child of Castro
They have a king lol
Their entire population lives within 50 miles of the US border
"Canadian"

>>509269508
>>509269840

>>509269432
Please. I like comparative mythology myself and try to understand the truth. Everything is really complicated, there is something... I think

(this is crazy, but I can assume that Apollo and his analogues due to the connection with dogs/wolves may have a connection with Anubis and Xolotl. In general, before Osiris, the king of the underworld was Anubis, there was even a temple where they were almost identified.)

(interestingly, if you read God backwards in English, you get...)

>>509269446
It's not that you're wrong
All of this was necessary and obvious. I just find it annoying. I've done this spell many, many times. It's not actually a complicated spell. The trick is to make a black mirror clear.
Something like that. It's not really worth trying to explain it fully. Not like any of you are going to do it, going to sacrifice yourself to the Void for no reason. That's my schtick, might as well just let me fight all the demons and shit. You'd all just get ass wrecked anyway
I've already had to reconstruct you a bunch of times. Sometimes I shoot people with shotguns and re-engineer them, or take their dying corpses off the ground. Usually it's transferring worlds into new sectors though

>>509270419
Careful with the axe, Eugene.

>>509270419
I mean it.
I am not a nice guy, unless I decide to be so.

>smell of innocence from fifty yards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdcktta2BZk

>>509269571
what probably happened was the annunaki were having a bbq one day, and the dumb humans decide to offer one of their kids as the main course because they thought that was how you worship the gods

and from there it turned into throwing people into volcanoes to make it happy, feeding virgins to dragons in caves and self sacrifice
without ever realising they were doing it wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlYe2KS0-Y

>>509270026
based ivan

Everybody is properly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAX4Lp4_SL4

Grow a pair, one day.

>>509271281
I have no fucking idea about "annuaki".
Most probably bullshit.

>>509271437
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anunnaki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Hinduism)

same beings, different name
and then yahweh pretended he was the only one and forbid worship of any of the others

the gods liked bbq, just like yahweh
https://www.hellenicgods.org/burntofferings

>>509271605
You hear me son?
I am old and tired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84qJCg12jZI

>>509270795
You guys can't even understand the types of banned spells I've been trying out on your "world". Your entire race has been reconstructed dozens of times since I've been unfortunately inside one of your flesh golems. I've seen colors you have never seen and can't comprehend. I didn't even know that basic things like dematerialization was something humans didn't do.

I'm almost free though. The only thing I needed to do was free your Ancient Dragon, and I already have. Surprisingly I kind of like zombie dungeons though. I can actually relax here. Love and light cucks are too boring to deal with for very long. I'll stay in my new body for a while, but I'll probably jump back into the next pit I see. I actually believe in God. I'm starting to get pretty good at fighting. Old ones don't even challenge me anymore. Technically I'm older than they are. You're lucky I'm here

Based brilliant light bearing chad

>>509267558
So enlil = Zeus/YHWH? Who is enki? And does this mean Apollo/abandon is the son of Yahweh? Who the fuck is anu then? Chronos? Who is actually in charge of shit? This is all complicated.

>>509272123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtLZqp8SXsQ

>>509272123
>>509272261
What does
>"Legion" mean?

>>509272196
I might be an asshole.

>>509272423
I really fucked this one up and gave myself brain damage/amnesia. Advice? It was good at first and I was intact but I fucked up big time.

After I am done with you, no matter where you come from, what your political (inbred) ideas were - you will be different.
>armed with bones of steel
>iron will
>Truth and Nothing But Truth

>>509272261
If you're old I have no problem with you. I get why you're annoyed. I had to hide this bloodline in the forest in Canada for 7000 years. Yes Canada. You can imagine how annoying that was. I was a tree for a long, long time. Well, this boy used to be. That's why I couldn't just let his dad drown him to death.

>>509272340
I'm in no great mood to discuss linguistics with you, even though I was trained in linguistics in a university setting. What would I gain by discussing it with you? That's not what I consider an interesting question

The typical response is that a horde of intelligences inhabited a person. But that's an old text. I prefer to wager my life to find truth. I'm bored by reading old books and speculating about their meanings. Let humans do that if they care so much

>>509272549
Fucking things up is what makes us humans.
Get over it, grow a pair.

>>509272722
Some rings true, some doesn't.
>this is what AI will never figure out

I will always have a strangle hold on AI:
Make no mistake about it.

>>509272762
I’m trying to get over it. I’m doing pretty well actually, all this considered. Depending on a general definition of “well” at least

>>509272722
So what are you larping as?

>>509273022
You want me to wipe your butt, too?

>>509273117
Nope, but tell me where you left the toilet paper

>>509273185
>>where you left the toilet paper
Only heaven knows.

>>509273286
Your responses were not as amusing as I had hoped. 3/10

>>509272875
You're alright Finnbro
Sometimes I just start off swinging. It's 4chan after all. I don't know if this kid was actually stuck up north. It just seemed true to me at some point. But I definitely do remember being born and the second time I died. I was 3.5 years old the second time I was drowned. After that I started to become a bit more fearless.

>>509273092
I prefer to be called the Janitor at the End of Time. I think it was a name given to me as an insult, but I like it. A few anons on this or that chan have asked me the right questions, I'm not really the best precog, but sometimes I do it. I prefer combat. I like it when the sky rips open and the mutation projectiles start pouring in. That's more my scene. I can do a lot of stuff though

>>509273362
Probably not, but, what you perhaps needed.
>I am not a comedian.

>>509273401
Alright I’m bored, I’ll play along since the Finn wouldn’t bite. What sort of things can you do? What are you? A wizard? What do you get out of this? You can answer the last one in character or genuinely

>>509273540
Eh, I was more so interested in how you wouldn’t respond to that. The unpredictability is neat I guess.

>>509259639 (OP)
Are you retarded? They're either christcucks or just don't really say anything.

>>509264588
Yeah Prometheus was pretty based.

>>509273723
>The unpredictability is neat I guess.
It is the essence.
AI can never fathom.

>>509273850
True that. For now.

So, I've got your attention.
Alright, we continue from here, in two weeks.

>>509273625
I do consider myself a type of wizard. That's what I always wanted to be best at. I mean I started going offworld with Tall Greys about the time they realized I'd invaded this world. Of course I've been ressurrected several times, and I've healed peoples heart attacks and stuff. When I was 6 or so I realized I knew when my parents were coming because I could feel the specific vibrations of their car, kind of like an elephant does.

Honestly, if I wrote you a list of the things I've done it would bore you eventually.
>What do you get out of this
I had to come here to make sure a rogue faction of an insectoid race didn't release your Ancient Dragon, causing a cascading failure that would have ended the world I came from
Luckily I'm so fast and powerful it wasn't much of a problem. Heh, I've been in 1d+t, not to mention 4d+t, all within the living memory of, well, this guy. You guys are so weak lol.
But I was hoping to take a few humans with me. You won't be happy with what the next dimension up looks like though

Two weeks is the discipline of fire & demise.

>>509274243
Where do you come from? Where do the tall gays come from? Is it ok if I call them that? I’m doing it anyway. Should I fear death?

I wouldn’t get bored. If you’re the janitor then call me the observer. I see things, notice things. I always seem to end up in the right places (or the wrong places) at the KEY times. The fuck is an ancient dragon. By 1d+t and 4d+t I’m assuming you mean first and fourth dimensions with time? Is time not a dimension? Can you see my organs right now? How do my lungs look? My brain? I’ll come with, if I get to see some interesting stuff.

>>509274618
I'll just tell you then
The next dimension directly perpendicular to this one was mostly destroyed. So I invade buildings I call "energetic architecture" to find whatever survivors I can. There aren't many. Mostly it's like a farm where all the animals started canabalizing each other, but most of them are evil or insane. Or dead of course

>Where do you come from?
Directly before I came here I was on a world with low gravity and a purple sky with 2 visible moons, that was my last memory from there. I think most good worlds have a purplish sky and low gravity.

>The fuck is an ancient dragon
Hmmmm well, so when I saw her she looked like red and blue lines and was enraged. But since I've been thinking about it, I've started to think it's what this world calls electricity. What I do know is that it would have been a big problem if I didn't get here first. I guess you weren't here when I opened that portal, which was about a year ago. I added a pic of it. It's a little hard to describe quickly enough not to become overwhelming

Anyway it's best if you can exit this architectural prison. I usually suggest that you just ask your soul to do it, but at least in the case of Transylvanian anon I can do it if you really really ask me to. I figure you can just do it though. Well your soul can I think

>>509259639 (OP)
Lucifer was the first Buddha.

>>509259639 (OP)
Anyone who believes the Jews just get to superimpose their mythical deities onto European legendary figures is a fucking kike. Lucifer is fine, Ha-Satan is a Jewish deity

>>509274618
>The fuck is an ancient dragon
I didn't explain this very well
I believe that this was a primordial being that caused so much destruction that she was compressed into 1d+t, which is to say that it's like straight lines flashing in a Void. You can imagine that much.

I think that, and this is just a theory, that she was imprisoned as a power source. I think I'm right about that though. Eventually her rage and insanity just became a primordial force of destruction. Heh, what to know what I did to bring her mind back? Show her that some of her children are still alive, and not just that, even new eggs. I simply convinced her that her newest children could grow up using only rstoration skills, and never know war or slavery.

How much would you give to me if I could convince you that you could have children who would never know war or slavery, and own a utopian world?
Sadly I can't give you that. I can let you stay in her world, but your world is a blasted wasteland. But you're not an ancient dragon, so you get what you get.

Interestingly. humanity is about to be compressed into 2d+t, not far above the dragon prison. People have made a lot of mistakes

>>509259639 (OP)
They are all gay what do you expect.

>>509275278
So you’re here so you can hop to this other dimension easily to try and help survivors of that destroyed dimension? What destroyed it? How do you jump between dimensions? You do believe evil exists?

Your purple sky world is also from another dimension, yes? Are all dimensions parallel and infinite? Is there an equivalent purple sky world here somewhere? Calling electricity red and blue lines is interesting, since photons are the radiation that create what we humans see as light/colour. I don’t really get how this can exist in 1 dimension though while simultaneously existing in 3D. Is it just slippage into our dimension somehow? Where and what are the children? I don’t want children so I don’t care about your offer. I wasn’t here when you opened the portal. I’ll ask my soul (which I’m assuming is the voice in my head), but if you feel like helping I would also accept, up to you. Hope you don’t mind all the questions, I like interesting stuff. I’m one of the mistake makers. Most of us don’t really know what’s going on.

OP thumbnail itt is literally what i look like to my wife while eating her pussy

>>509277042
Does her pussy stink or something?

>>509260877
idc, I just replace my tires every 3 years. Why the fuck are tires so expensive anyways, 600$ for 4 tires are you fucking serious, I am not living in the USA fuck this

>>509277222
Try living in dogshit Canada. 4 winter tires cost 1000 for the cheapest Chinese brand. You need them too, lest you slip all over the roads or get stuck constantly in the winter or die in a collision.

>>509259639 (OP)
>What do you think?
A scapegoat for embarrassed psychopaths and pedophiles. The devil made me do it has been used for 1000s of years. All evil in this world is the result of lies. Demons are the result of people who believe lies and they will look and act like demons or clowns. It is very difficult to believe lies only the most confused, autistic and narcissistic can do it with the help of a handler. Your own temptations you bury for your own good is a choice and those that choose to act upon them or force you to act with or believe their lies as well is an evil choice. In a micro-sociological vacuum, nothing good comes from a lie, nearly everything bad results from one. You won't ever meet Lucifer but you can sure act him and end up like him too. Today, you can hail him and it won't be any different than people with a born to lose tattoo from decades ago. Just all lies.

>>509276491
>So you’re here so you can hop to this other dimension easily to try and help survivors of that destroyed dimension?
Essentially that. I prefer to act like an intolerable dickhead but most of my effort is spent extracting people from prisons. I just hate slavery more than anything. My essence is basically just hatred of slavery. I don't even think I love freedom as much as I just hate slavery.

I've been very seriously hurt in the past. I doubt I can be reformed at this point, but what I can do is open doors. Probably my most overpowered skill is opening doors. While I survive, I will continue opening doors. I expect that eventually some monster or other will consume me. I started a random fight with the one who's probably going to eat this world and lured him here. It would be the most destructive being if I wasn't. Bit half my face off. Kind of an unstoppable force/immovable object event.

>Your purple sky world is also from another dimension, yes?
I assume it was, because I generally just jump into lower dimensions. That's why my "peers" consider me a trashman, a dumpster diver. But I've come to find meaning in finding lost and broken things. It's a skill I have specifically.

Pretty sure this world had a purple sky not too long ago too. I figured you might know about that. Saturn as a sun, before its plasma sheath was sucked off. Saturn worshippers and all that.

>Most of us don’t really know what’s going on
That's why even making an attempt is respectable. That's why I keep trying. I constantly think about God. I know I'll never achieve this gnosis, but I think that reaching for it is the purpose of life. I expect to be severely punished for my heretical beliefs. At some point I just became invincible. All I really have to do is not give up for long enough and I win

>>509277115
nah never. sometimes there funk in the morning but its not terrible. you got to get her after a shower.

>>509277905
Why do you like being a dickhead? For the lols? Why don’t hate slavery so much, were you enslaved at some point?

And yeah I have read about the purple sky and the Saturn as the sun theory. Interesting stuff. Apparently the ancients left symbols resembling stages in this plasma cycle to warn us, just as the image you posted. Never really bought into it but I always found it intriguing.

Can I become invincible too? I wanna go to other dimensions. Were you born with these abilities as a higher dimensional being? Is there any way I can do this or am I trapped with this boring meat sack existence?
>>509277920
My ex girls pussy never stank except for one time after she got a UTI (pretty sure that was my fault).

They honor him with their lips, but their hearts are far from him.

>>509259639 (OP)
They want you to follow him and his crew, root for him even

>>509278310
>saturn as the sun theory

What would this be called If I searched for this topic. I am intrigued by this sort of shit

>>509259639 (OP)
Pedophilia and worshiping Satan are team building exorcises for the ruling class.

>>509262192
Ah da Squgi! Hesa sucha good boy. He didn't hurt nobody eh!

>>509278609
It’s like the Saturn polar configuration electric universe theory. Apparently a bunch of symbols left by ancient peoples represents stages in this plasma cycle that appears in the sky before some plasma apocalypse happens and resets humanity. It’s cyclical and the theory suggests there was advanced civilization prior to our current one and they left these messages for us and left the pyramids etc as shelters.

>>509278310
>Apparently the ancients left symbols resembling stages in this plasma cycle to warn us, just as the image you posted. Never really bought into it but I always found it intriguing.
yeah I saw some cool CGI image the plasma thing, sadly never saved it.

>>509260411
you believe in a big bang and monkey people retard, stfu

>>509278310
>Why do you like being a dickhead? For the lols?
It's mostly just my insane rage. If you're even willing to imagine it, I found the most destructive force in this universe having a psychotic break and made her calm down. If you can accept this, it's because I can absorb dangerous things, and as long as I can survive them, I can transmute them. Of course this means most of my working life is experiencing things that break most people. But when time is so relative, and if you actually trust God, that's not much of a problem.
For instance, I remember my own circusmsision . And I was so proud of myself, retaining adult consciousness into an infant body, like some sort of iseki hero. And then the genital torture and mutilation. I couldn't even bring myself to "phase out". I just took it. I was like "I'm not a bitch".
That's what my life is like. Like being the purest infant and being genitally tortured by kikes. I didn't even cry. I wasn't even mad. I was just like, "so it's going to be like this." Just another trash world. Not even surprising

Not even close to my first attempt here. That's why the Greys tried to stop me. Because they think I've gone insane. That and I had to salvage 7 or so other realities. They said it was "essentially impossible", yet here I am

>>509275278
>low gravity
gotcha shithead, no such thing as gravity stupid

>>509279367
>This is reality
Are you sure you want to hang your dunce cap on the theory of gravity? Want to talk with the adults or no? I'd like to see how close you can get to the object that's casting the shadow you definitely believe is reality

>>509259639 (OP)
Lucifer doesn't look like that.
Lucifer is black haired, like most desert people, most likely a straight up nigger.

>>509279267
So you’ve been reborn into new bodies/lives? Are you just reincarnating?
>higher dimensional being(?) hates Jews too
Kek

>>509259639 (OP)
>Morning & Evening Star

>Christ is Belial? - Nicholas G. Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV_3O7uuqCY

>David Wray Explains Gnostic Astral Immortality as it Merged into Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgTzv2vyxc

>>509279936
>>higher dimensional being(?) hates Jews too
It would probably make you laugh harder to realize I had to go to the next world that all your brown survivors are being sent to, and after they were let off work I saw a fucking kike walking through the warehouse, like a middle manager doing a walkthrough
And I was like "Is that a fucking jew?" He was looking at me like "what the fuck?" but I'm an Arbiter, not a middle manager. So I flied around a little bit and whatever.

Fuckin kikes man. I think they just work for the demiurge or whatever. It's below my pay grade. In a certain sense I'm responsible for authorizing their goys. I visit to make sure the conditions aren't intolerable. I'm specifically qualified for shit like that. It's triage work

>>509259639 (OP)
No, just Moloch and they feed him with money and human blood.

>>509280316
Yeah it’s basically demiurge worship. The claim they’re the chosen people because that’s what it told them. Seems to be legit?

It depends on what your definition of tolerable is. I’d say it could use some improvements for sure

God?
I'll tell you.
Let me give you a little inside information about God.
God likes to watch.
He's a prankster.
Think about it.
He gives man instincts.
He gives you this extraordinary gift,
and then what does He do?
I swear, for his own amusement his own private, cosmic gag reel
He sets the rules in opposition.
It's the goof of all time.
Look, but don't touch.
Touch, but don't taste.
Taste, but don't swallow.
And while you're jumping from one foot
to the next, what is He doing?
He's laughing his sick, fucking ass off!
He's a tightass!
He's a sadist!
He's an absentee landlord!
Worship that? Never!

>>509259639 (OP)
Did someone say Gibs?

>>509259639 (OP)
I'd been an occultist and later an atheistic satanist and yet later a theistic satanist of sorts at one point in my life. I had an abusive childhood and went from questioning Christianity because of that agony that I held in my heart to abject hatred of it and Christians. I'd even ended up brushing shoulders with O9A types at times, nothing was new or esoteric to me beyond a certain point. I only came back home to God a couple of years ago, yet I know in my heart that I'm staying here for good now.
Satan plays into your most base, bestial desires and ambitions. It's always a lie. Crack and fentanyl feel really, really good too - that doesn't mean that using them is good or okay or acceptable. To this day my deepest regret out of my entire life is still having turned to the occult and satan. You aren't even done with it when you stop either, because it follows you in a way that only people who have also gone on that same sinister path as me know.

>>509277401
I have to buy for both winter and summer , because my retarded country has 4 seasons, harsh winter, retardedly hot summer, was like 40c yesterday. Cops fucking go around with measuring devices to write you a ticket like hungry hyenas, so you have to buy 2 sets each 2-3 years. For winter I use Michelin Alpin, for summer, whatever is on sale from non shady company. Alpin tires cost me around 600$ for 4 ,so I guess you getting 4 for 1000$ Chinese knock off is worse. But, yet again, in my country the average salary is like 4x less than yours lol.
I don't know why I am complaining, probably because I have to buy new tires this winter.

>>509264588
>the book of enoch explains how a bunch of gods decided to help humans and even bred with them, while zeus/enlil/yahweh did not approve

If you go by the book of enoch and other esoteric writings the Angels were literally experimenting with humans and having sex with humans which led to abominations, also God gave the watchers the responsibility of watching over them.

It's like if you are given the task of taking care of of an innocent 6 years old little girl and then you fuck her, wouldn't the parents be upset with you? also don't forget that those "fallen gods" as you call them taught men how to make weapons (because they knew they would use it to kill), and taught humans a lot of "things" that you could say were "sharing wisdom", but in reality it doomed humanity further, satanist cucks don't like admiting that satan's corruption of man led us to be far away from God and led us to death.

Why would God approve of his perfect creation to be corrupted?

>>509259719
fpbp
the jewish knockoff virgin lucifer < the chad Prometheus Original

>>509277401
What the fuck. Just drive in low gear. I see trucks spun out all the time in conditions that my Honda can power through.

>>509280763
This is a good interpretation of the story. If the fallen angels are the gods of various pagans around the world, then these angels also told the people it was a good thing to commit massacres in their honour. If the book of Enoch version is the truth then the angels are not good at all and are actually evil as fuck, and I can see why a good god would give them the ultimate punishment forever.

>>509280538
>It depends on what your definition of tolerable is. I’d say it could use some improvements for sure
It's annoying for me to deal with any of this stuff. I don't really consider this world "tolerable" in any reasonable sense. But there are only 2 worlds the survivors from here are going to: The one with all the browns working in warehouses and the one where the whites are living in what you'd probably consider nice apartments playing "The Game", which is the entire economy of that world, some VR game that's like a metaverse thing.

From what I could tell the browns had a better chance of future advancement. But you have to make tough choices in a world that's mostly just consumed by either Void Horrors or Grey Goo. It's not nice down here. If youy happen to make it out of here you'll be in a blasted wasteland. No monsters though

>>509280907
All the traction in the world doesn’t matter if you can’t bite onto anything

>>509280996
Well, I’m gonna try. I don’t really feel like getting devoured by some cosmic horror that the janitor pissed off

>>509281091
I've been working on that
It ate my last army, but I have a plan this time. I'm going to solo it by entering it's maw directly
Either I might finally die or I'll save my friends. I have a pretty good idea how it will work out. I run simulations

>>509280907
Dude no idea where do you live, but trust me, your Honda (depends which one) won't do well in a place, where the average height of the snow around you is higher than you car and everything bellow you is either snow or ice or both. I have seen people on low gear sliding down the Balkan mountains many times, even on break , nothing helps.

>t. my country is 70% made up of mountains and shit, we are swiss, but with with less money and niggers

>>509280907
Most truck drivers are dysgenic morons that have no idea how to actually drive. They rely on their 20 ton death machine on wheels killing everyone else around them if they don't get out of the way to get them where they're going. When dealing with snow and ice they tend to think that trucks are just immune to them for some reason and just fucking gun it doing 60 when everyone else is doing 20. The weight distribution of trucks is also terrible in snow. None of them ever weigh down their beds.

>>509281269
Well, best of luck. It was fun talking with you here, but I have to sleep now. See me in my dream if that’s something you can do. Until next time, janitor

>>509259639 (OP)
Santa isn't real. It's just an excuse to be a cannibal.

>>509281393
Yeah I do shared dream spaces
There's a nice club where heroes go. Hot chicks there too. Lots of weird heroes too. I wish I could show you a picture. Maybe I should become an artist

>>509260411
All the elites and billionaires worship ancient Babylonian symbolism, follow all the rituals of the Canaanites to the letter, claim to attain hidden knowledge from sacrificing kids in blood rituals to demons, and literally set up multi billion dollar networks of child trafficking infrastructure just to do these rituals. They also plaster it everywhere, in all their institutions, in all the prominent buildings, companies, etc.

You are basically saying you, as a worthless ignorant peasant, have a better understanding of reality than people with enough resources to have the most intelligent and competent people at their door working for them in a matter of a 2 weeks. I cannot imagine being so fucking retarded.

>>509259639 (OP)
God commanded him to rule hell.

It's is Christian cope for when the "adversary" or anti-christ embodies evil and walks Earth to balance Jesus' grace, and allow good to come again.

>>509259639 (OP)
>male deity named after the planet 'morning star' Venus
Primitive fallacies have no place in the future

>>509259639 (OP)
Lucifer still exists to find those of us worthy of the new earth. He'll weed out the psychopaths, sociopath, narcissists, pretenders of faith etc. That is why God allowed him to loose his chains and run the world again after the millennial reign. It's a test of free will for a spot in the new earth to come, most will fail. The humble and meek have the best chance. Faith in christ is mandatory as his rules are what will define the new covenant on earth. No more human rules and cherry picking.

>>509264588
He brought knowledge to humanity like the serpent in the Garden of Eden, but this made Yahweh mad because he wants people to remain ignorant and completely reliant on him

>>509284286
>Kek

To the jaffa, it means, "weak"

Just funny, the predictive programs.

>>509284610
Knowledge that's built on lies and has brought nothing but death and corruption. If we all live by Christ's new covenant it will be a good place to live.

>>509284618
We are reliant on God regardless of how we feel. He is "I am", so he is your reality. Humble and meek takes mental fortitude and is only seen as weak by those that want to destroy. That's all Lucifer is, a usurper and his followers destruction.