The right is burying their heads when it comes to climate change. No one credible, including the oil and gas companies, actually doubt climate change. The science behind it has been known since the 19th century. But the right won't come up with any ideas on how to solve the problem, they just attack strawmen of proposed leftist solutions. Nothing is stopping the right from leading the way, for example by having a Manhattan Project for nuclear fusion. Why does the right choose the increasingly costly to maintain denial?

if you don't want solar at least increase your nuclear at a rate comparable to how China is increasing solar.

Climate “science” is less scientific than astrology.
>Muh models that don’t work!

Do you understand the Le Chatlier principle anon?

>>509261156
>increase your nuclear
you didn't even wait to discuss climate change anon, you just jumped to your preferred "solution"

aaaaaand you've already bailed on your own thread
nice, you wonder why everyone thinks your "climate change" is just nuclear shilling

>>509261222
Take a look at one actual model ensemble and observed temps.

As for the the mechanism more generally... Svante Arrhenius was a Swedish scientist. Originally a physicist, but often referred to as a chemist, Arrhenius was one of the founders of the science of physical chemistry. In 1903, he received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, becoming the first Swedish Nobel laureate. Arrhenius was the first to use the principles of physical chemistry to estimate the extent to which increases in the atmospheric carbon dioxide are responsible for the Earth's increasing surface temperature. His work played an important role in the emergence of modern climate science.

>>509261093 (OP)
Climate exists. It always changes. You adapt to it or you die. Nothing has changed about this since life began.

>>509261400
I'm just trying to get out ahead of those who strawman the only solution as solar or wind

>>509261543
The difference now is that we have industrial systems (agriculture, fisheries) and mass migration, as well as governments capable of acting to mitigate consequences.

>>509261534
? still here nigger

>>509261400
Nuclear is the solution. It’s fucking retarded how we aren’t dumping half our budget into it. Instead we get millions of these worthless wind turbines bought and maintained by tax dollars so energy companies and GE and China get free money while turning our landscapes into dystopian shitholes and they don’t even do shit. Solar is a fucking joke too. It’s putting civilization in general back a hundred years.

>>509261093 (OP)
What do you think about the fact that 0.12% of all greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere are man made?

>>509261597
then let me get to the point
your choice of energy generation won't matter if we die of carbon starvation

>>509261800
I'm not disagreeing with you, and there are climate scientists (James Hansen) who agree as well. I do think there's a place for wind and solar...

>>509261859
I don't understand your post...

>>509261542
Now expand that a hundred years and factor in monitoring stations near cities, fuckwad. Urbanization and solar effects are causing “global” warming, carbon dioxide is a fart in the wind.

>>509261987
Actually the arctic circle -- where there are no cities -- is warming faster than anywhere else in the world (picrel).

I am sorry you're so wrong.

>>509261093 (OP)
Every Western country could switch to solar and gay sex magic and it wouldnt matter because you limp faggots refuse to go talk to China and India about this shit.

>>509261987
and it's not the sun (picrel)

>>509261093 (OP)
Considering we're supposed to be underwater by the year 2005, it is alarming.

>>509262100
the faster we make the changes (without harming ourselves), the faster everywhere else will. that is what it means to lead.

>>509261965
most of the food crops in this world are C3 plants
they will die if CO2 gets too low
they will thrive under rising CO2 up to a point
the greenhouse effect has mostly played out already due to the Le Chatlier principle
the greatest source of CO2 isn't fossil fuels, it is soil oxidation and erosion, by an order of magnitude
the greatest sink of CO2 is permanent, and it already contains over 99.9% of the CO2 on the planet
and it won't stop until all the CO2 is gone
we are staving off the end of humanity by burning fossil fuels
we are actually screwed when we run out of them, because we will no longer have food to eat

>>509261827
This article deals with your question, though it is now dated (CO2 has passed 429ppm; article says 414)

>>509262260
China is not gonna stop burning tires to fuel their horrible accident factories just because we do lol. They run literal slave plantations that make the idea of a sweatshop seem nice

This is why no one takes you people seriously, you're gay and retarded

>>509261093 (OP)
sea level rise is not a real thing

its actually fake, im not kidding

>>509261093 (OP)
>bullshit nonsense
Sorry, faggot. We are well aware that earth goes through periods of warming and cooling...and guess what? It isn't caused by humans.
>how do you know that?
Because supposedly there weren't even humans around for the mast majority of them

>earth warms without humans
>earth cools without humans
>earth warms up again without humans
>repeat
The left wants to use "climate change" as a way to force the world into its gay, anti-white image.
The left doesn't give a single fuck about climate change. It's all about power and control.

>>509262469
China is making massive investments in alternative energies from hydro to solar. (See>>509261156) They are also leading the way on the roll out of electric vehicles (picrel). Why wouldn't they be rational and invest in cleaner tech?

https://dailysceptic.org/2025/03/11/antarctica-ice-growing-across-large-areas-for-at-least-85-years-aerial-photos-show/

>>509262509
Yep.
>water expands as it turns into ice
So as the ice melts it takes up less space, making room for the ice water.

>>509262630
You don't realize how fallacious your argument is: climate has changed historically therefore human beings can't be the cause of current changes.

Sorry that conclusion doesn't follow the premises.

>>509261093 (OP)

You are on /pol/. No one here believes in science, hell 90% of the posters here believe in sharia, do you think mujeets care about science or climate?

>>509262144
Horseshit. The solar maximum is at its peak now. This affects the arctic region in an outsized manner, and the Gulf Stream which is the main cause for warming there. Carbon dioxide has fuck all effect on this. You’re posting the bullshit 11 year cycle shit which is meaningless to overall activity. Sunspots are higher than ever recorded now.

>>509261093 (OP)
That field of “science” lost all credibility decades ago. If you’re still following it and believing it, you’re a fool. Even if it were all true, the Earth wasn’t designed to last forever and is just a resource for humans to use before it all ends suddenly.

>>509262711
Cause of sea level rise are ice sheets, not sea (floating) ice

>>509262758
show a longer timeframe graph with temperatures for a start

>>509262773
Just because you're too ignorant and smooth brained to sort the good science from the bad doesn't mean it's all illegitimate.

You and everyone like you is entirely defined by your effort to avoid accepting any responsibility for doing about the problem, and a religious attachment to the status quo.

>>509262758
did you ever think that maybe if you didn't drive everywhere in your stupid diesel pickup that never hauls anything maybe there'd be less sunspots?

>>509262743
there are some here who are not lost. I post for their sake

>>509262062
Chud destroyed with pure unbridled logic yet again. Too bad he is a chronic contrarian with a learning disability >>509262062

>>509262932
lel

>>509261093 (OP)
The left is a bunch of lying nut jobs.

>>509261093 (OP)
>14 inches in 100 years
Pull up a photo of Venice from 1920.

But it doesn't matter howuch v rifiable data there is about human impact on the environment.

Acidification of the oceans, massive reductions in wildlife populations, temperature, natural disasters - the deniers will continue to pull unbacked counters out of their ass because they have no interest in having a informed and defensible position. It's about avoiding responsibility.

Not blame, but responsibility of doing something about it. They are the apathetic and soulless of the world and they will watch it die before lifting a finger or challenging themselves.

>>509262963
it's going to be a funny future OP
humanity is going to be using most of the nuclear energy produced to generate CO2, or else the human race dies
maybe when that day arrives, people will look back and realize these were the good old days, the easy times, where CO2 flowed freely
I see you're not interested in actual science, you just want to shill nuclear energy

>>509263088
Also, I'm tired of the 'conservatives' pretending to represent the 'right'.

On the Right, we believe in:

* Creation, micro, not macro evolution.
* Manchildren should grow up. Suffering would help.
* Women have no rights. They only have privileges given by simps. No women should be allowed in the military, police, or any position of authority.
* Sodomy should be recriminalized.
* Sodomites should be publicly executed for attempting to seduce children.
* The 59% should catch up to the 41%.
* Usury, the prime source of Jewish power, is evil.
* Race mixing is genocide. It is an attempt to destroy both races. Miscegenation should also be recriminalized.

Please stop letting centerist ‘conservatives’ pretend to be us.
They are the ideological transvestites.

>>509262932
>never hauls anything
Brother I am 250 pounds of prime American beef, lower your tonnage when speaking to me.

>>509261093 (OP)
Isn't weird how there has been a big push in the last 10 years online to hate your elders and to never trust anything they say, and at the same time the only 'evidence' of climate change is sneakily placed temperature sensors and people not understanding how the weather is cyclical? I wonder what older people in your area, not online, say about climate change based on their lived experience?

>>509261093 (OP)
Climate change is nonsense. The real threat to the world is shitskin overpopulation. We see the effects of this everyday. Niggerworld is the single gravest problem facing the human race as we speak and it must be stopped at all costs.

>>509263088
>photo assumes no tides, stationary sea level.
12 inches is not very much. it's how much more we bake in over the next 70 years that is going to make a difference
>>509263094
same

>>509263243
I'd be happy if the answer didn't involve nuclear. Not here to shill it at all.

>>509262963

Good luck with it bro! I tried several times but the shilling and bots dont want you to discuss real topics.

Bumping it for you

>>509263133
picrel

>>509263328
climate change will make migration increase, leading to political instability

>>509261093 (OP)
wheres that water come from anyways?

>>509263400
god bless

>>509262355
>Actually we HAVE to keep burning fossil fuels
Schizo take. CO2 ppm won't suddenly drop anywhere close to levels that won't support C3 plants if we stop drilling

>>509263508
Man made climate change isn't real. We live in North America. It's a fortress surrounded by Islands. The cause of Immigration is the government. Not mythical climate refugees. It's called close your borders. As long as niggers exist there will be refugees. This is the cause of refugees.

>>509263610
>surrounded by Islands.
Absolute derp moment. I meant *fortress island surrounded by oceans

>>509263610
even if what you say were true (it's not) I would still care, since I care about Europe.

>>509262711
Ice sheets are almost irrelevant to rising sea levels. The thing scientists are actually worrying about is the thermal expansion of the water that is already there

>>509263676
Europe is much the same. The government is what lets them in. This is just silly to me. Nobody has to do anything unless it's by force.

>>509261093 (OP)
The sea level has risen by a foot in 100 years?
Funny you think people would have noticed.

>>509263908
They did, globally...

>>509263826
Look how much simping there is for refugees now. What makes you assume it will be politically possible to turn away massive waves of migrants seeking refuge?
>>509263908
some people have indeed noticed. including actuarialists

Never forget that all temperature records are a scam of corrected data.

>>509263770
The jig is up. People know where those temperatures came from and how the sensors have been constantly moving around concrete jungles to get the hottest temperature readings. You can look up every single sensor in America online.

>>509263780
good point. But there is concern over the West Antarctic Ice Sheet

>>509264041
see>>509262062

>>509261093 (OP)
>this retard is back
Lol. Lemme check his graphs.
>total number of days that exceeded lowest level on record
Lol.

>>509261156
>random no context graph that does not take into account the production pollution and lifespan of solar pannels
Lol.

>>509261542
>random projection from the year '99 with an incredibly small scale that is mostly a projection
Lol

>>509262062
>this over complicated nonsense graph that is basically unintelligible but looks scary and requires reading the methodology to make sense of
Lol.

>>509262144
>an unsourced graph with no data table that doesnt mean anything
Lol

>>509262665
>a graph showing ev purchases that are notoriously terrible for the environment by every single metric that isnt gasoline emmissions
Lol

Also, you keep posting the same graphs and ignoring critiques. Yadda yadda trust science, yadda yadda what do you know, I know any graph that doesnt have a st.dev or a clear n value isnt worth reading, and that they should really have a data table and associated paper so you can read the methodology.

>>509263997
>some people have indeed noticed. including actuarialists
But not the people that use infrastructure on the ocean at sea level. Or people that live near the ocean. No one anywhere has noticed the 1 foot of sea level rise.

Do you have any idea how much water 1 foot over the current ocean level is?

>>509264109
Every data set used on the temp graphs is named. Feel free to google them and read their methodology

>>509263997
Because the government has guns and can stop them. They need to come here first, that means a transportation network set up by NGO's. NGO's don't have militaries. This is largely the crux of modern politics for the past 100+ years, jews trying to influence or gain control within stronger nations like USA to use it's military and vast power to their advantage/religious goals. Do you mean a country can't control it's own borders against niggers in dinghy boats?

Don't tell me to ride a bus and turn down my thermostat

When you're all running around in jets and Cadillacs

I can't take this lying down, we gotta try and fight back

'Till they believe what we said

We're tired of being Johnny B Goods and we gotta be Johnny Rebs

>>509264161
no one is alive who would have been noticing in 1900.. that's one reason we rely on measurements and not anecdotes

>>509264109
>>this over complicated nonsense graph that is basically unintelligible but looks scary and requires reading the methodology to make sense of
My nigga it says average surface temperature and it goes up. Are you completely fucking dense?

>>509261093 (OP)

>>509264091
I don't believe you.

>>509261093 (OP)
bold of you to assume /pol/ isn't a honeypot for the lowest IQ people and actually cares about shit like this.
truth and solutions do not matter on this board. reason doesn't matter. the only thing that matters is pinning everything on jews in the most convoluted ways possible. it's a pissing contest of who screams jew the loudest.
you lost the moment you actually tried. good on you though.

>>509264295
if you think it's easy to shoot large groups of unarmed people day in and day out you're wrong; most people can't do it

>>509261093 (OP)
I advocate for nuclear, the cheapest, cleanest, safest form of energy. You advocate for electric cars which pollute more in their production and manufacture than almost anything else, and the primary way to charge them is with energy from coal power plants. Your paragons fly around in private jets. You bring more third worlders into the first world and increase the footprint of western countries dramatically. And you don't care about domestic manufacturing, instead shipping crap in from overseas where they have lower emissions regulations, and the carbon output of the container ships is so catastrophically high it's laughable.

You don't take climate change seriously, so why should I?

>>509264257
And every time you post this crap I say the same thing, you scuttle into the abyss, and then you comeback doomsaying you incredibly retarded charlatan. Want me to pull it from the archive? This is 4 or 5 times now you havent been able to answer any of the elementary questions about data integrity: what is the standard deviation, how many points are in the set, and which are pruned. You dont know what you're talking about, and seems to me you glow in the dark with the regularity you post the exact same misleading graphs.

>>509264354
and I don't believe you. but as this thread shows, not everyone on this site is retarded

>>509264317
Why won't you address why the scientists feel the need to move their sensors to areas they know will fuck with the readings? Why they feel the need to skip routine maintenance on these sensors? Why they are still using data that supposedly came from dozens of sensors that were not even operational for years? Why do I know more about this topic than you?

>>509264488
Other than you, captain of the misleading retard troupe. Anon, The Retarded Climate Leaf doing dumb shit over and over despite getting bent over every single time, using the same files, the same unscientific banter, and the same smug retardation. Go read a book, sport.

>>509264469
I don't fly around anywhere, and I don't disagree that global shipping should decrease.

>>509264404
god bless

>>509264488
You don't believe because you've never actually looked into the possibility that you are being lied to. You have no idea how global temperatures are taken and it shows.

>>509264419
You don't have to even. You can the government arrest the ring leaders of NGO's. Then no more NGO's. You don't have harm a single "refugee", just turn their boats away in the water. Once a few drown because they have to turn back and/or are stranded no more will come.

Tell me this, you sound like the sort of person who would say Gadaffi prevented migrants from going to Europe. So how did he do it then?

>>509264317
>no one is alive who would have been noticing in 1900.. that's one reason we rely on measurements and not anecdotes
Or things built at sea level that haven't moved. If they were less than 12 inches above high tide they are now underwater. So just show me an example of that. Something built pre 1920s that is fixed in position that was within 12 inches of sea level at high tide that's now underwater.

>>509264483
you have me confused with someone else. I have interacted with you once. The data sets all have long methodologies available online. you want to read about it go ahead. you can send your critique to a journal

>>509264338
No, that's not what it says, it says a handful of different random jargon plotted on a graph in an intentionally misleading way, with no definition of which what thing is and a small scale. No one who does data visualization would ever condone that crap. It appears to be multiple studies with different methodology at once.

>>509264742
Why don't you want to discuss the methodology of how the temperatures were collected?

>>509264742
Hey if you care about climate change so much just know that shitskins are the leading cause of pollution and muh CO2 emissions.

>>509264742
Lol nice one sport. You realize you have the same filenames and it's incredibly easy to search, right? You are presenting the data. You should know the methodology. And if you dont, you dont know what the graphs mean and are manipulating people.

>>509263591
>schizo take! the process that has been putting CO2 away permanently for millions of years will just suddenly stop for no apparent reason
okay anon, continue to believe in "the science" without actually listening to people who are talking about undisputed science.

>>509264891
no. it means I trust that the methodologies have been scrutinized by lots of people more capable than myself to scrutinize them, and have been found acceptable.

For anyone who doesn't realise the climate change scam: since almost all weather stations that collect temperature data get government funding, you can look up the maintenance records with FOI as well as decommissioned sensors that are still somehow collecting data. Not to mention you can see the work orders for when they move the sensors and why. There is a reason the only 'hard' evidence is from temperature readings. The jig is up.

>>509265235
>it means I dont know what I'm talking about, dont care to look, and trust the science
Same thing you said last time, retard. Too stupid to read a paper, but feel entitled to post graphs and tell people what they mean? You are a retarded faggot and deserve to be slapped across the face for your blatantly unscientific nonsense, you flippant charlatan.

>>509265235
>casually admits to not knowing about the subject he wants to debate
Wew lad.

>>509265404
wow, you sound like a scientist yourself

>>509265404
>>509265439
why don't you go through the methodologies and pull out the errors and post them here so that we can all see.

>>509264625
That's a cool story, but you've sidestepped the point. I offer real solutions, you regurgitate fatuous platitudes that make you feel morally superior while solving nothing. And then you vote for the same degenerates that caused these problems and actively make the problems worse. When I was 18-21 I was a member of the Australian Greens, and I watched them give up on all of the environmental issues to instead make things worse with infinity indians, so I left. Your ilk are the cause of the greater problem.

>>509265475
Yes. I am a data scientist and data visualization expert; I get paid to do it. I asked you questions about statistical evaluation relative the the validity of the graphs, you said "trust the science" and sarcastically insulted my credientials you smug retarded pissbaby. Go back to gay baby jail, you scientifically illiterate dork.

>>509265593
oh wow, you know everything about me and who I vote for!

I fight with my local greens all of the time. I have no one to vote for in my country.

>>509265574
Not until you prove climate change without resorting to temperatures.

>>509265699
well you should really put your skills to work on disproving all of the data sets used in those temp graphs. you'd be fucking famous for debunking all of them with your expertise!

>>509265730

>>509265574
>why dont you do my job for me and show me information I havent read, dont know, and have no interest in learning
Nope. I can do one or two, but I get paid to do this shit. You're welcome to read and explain them, then I'll point out how they're misleading, but you are the one posting graphs you dont understand, you should explain them.

>>509265715
>oh wow, you know everything about me and who I vote for!
Again, retard, you're missing the point and sidestepping it all. You vote for a party that doesn't do anything. And then you try and shame people into your low-impact luxury belief system and offer no real solutions. I don't have to know anything about you beyond what you've talked about in this thread to know you're the problem.

Are you going to comment meaningfully on anything I've said or is it more preachy woman-tier shaming attempts?

>>509265730
>You prove to me under conditions only which I can understand
>no I won't do my own research
fuck you

>>509265792
I did. Immediately. In one line of greentext and three simple questions you have been unable to answer 4 and 5 times now.

>>509261542
>1970-2020 graph
Go FUCK yourself, RETARD.

>>509263770
Now zoom the graph out

>>509262926
No, you’re the idiot for wasting your time with something that’s been wrong and had shift goalposts for decades. At a certain point it becomes a fools errand and a religion that you have invented. I know better than to waste my life investigating liars and fools.

>>509263133
Yeah, look at all that carbon we're putting out!, Holy smokes!

>>509266009
Will the others respond to your graph with the same questions?

Your graph uses an x axis of years before present. It says 95 years before present. In fact that is still wrong, as the data ends in 1950, so 95 years before present is 1855.

>>509265823
That's what I thought. Don't know jack shit about the methodology, but you want to debate someone who does. If climate change were real you could prove it without using temperatures numbnuts.

>>509265941
1pbtid

>>509266161
How about this one, is it up to your particular standards, saar?

>>509266161
>graph from the year 2000, no n value, no st.dev, with an incredibly small scale and basically no context
Classic smug retard anon. Tell me, what does the rest of that study say about that graph? How was the data collected?

I am so fucking tired of you CO2-tards. There is a lot of worse shit that is happening to the environment, but you just took the easy bait from the jews and ran with it like the NPCs you are.

>>509261093 (OP)
A climate just flew over my house

>>509266161
If climate change were real you could prove it without using temperatures.

>>509265792
You know what would make you famous? Figuring out how to grow plants without CO2. Or perhaps, figuring out how to cheaply and cleanly release the trapped carbon in the world. Because the process isn't going to stop. And the process will kill every human on this planet if we don't figure out a solution.

Until then, we need to keep burning fossil fuels for the carbon if not for the energy.

>>509264343
/thread

Lol at these shill posting made up graphs.

>>509261093 (OP)
> Why does the right
>>509261093 (OP)
>>509228227
>>509251258
>>509179102

>>509263338
> over the next 70 years
but the cult has been saying that for the past 70 years?
https://rumble.com/v1nz28u-the-plan-to-enslave-humanity-with-man-made-climate-change-propaganda.html

>>509264109
how do "people" like you even solve the captcha?

>>509266845
Easily, repeatedly, and thousands of times. Where's you n value and st.dev? How was your data collected? Answer these questions and the madness will end. Your shilly OP has jumped ship after being buttfucked yet again, do you want to join suit?

>>509266954
Let's take one of the data sets, (Berkeley):

Berkeley Earth collects temperature records from over 50,000 weather stations worldwide, drawing from a wide variety of sources:

National meteorological services
Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN)
NOAA and NASA datasets
European sources (e.g., ECA&D)
Historical ship logs, buoys, and ocean datasets for sea surface temperature

Independent weather archives and digitized historical records
Their dataset includes records going back to the 18th century, and is regularly updated with contemporary data.

>>509267256
Berkeley Earth places special emphasis on transparency and correction of biases:

They use automated algorithms to identify:
Station relocations
Instrument changes
Time-of-observation changes
Outliers and discontinuities

The system does not discard suspicious data, but uses robust statistical methods to reduce the influence of bad data rather than deleting it.

They address the urban heat island effect by modeling temperature patterns over large spatial fields, allowing urban data to be corrected using surrounding rural stations.

>>509261675
I am all for solutions but people who talk about this only seem to want to find someone to blame, which is just misanthropy projected. There is no emergency. We know what to do when sea levels rise, you move inland. We know what to do when weather patterns change, you move to wear the climate is more optimal for your use case. It is not hard.

>>509267256
>>509267301
Their key innovation is the use of spatial interpolation methods, especially a modified form of Kriging (a geostatistical technique):

They reconstruct temperature fields over the Earth’s surface using all nearby stations, regardless of political boundaries.

Each data point contributes to the temperature estimate of its region in proportion to distance and correlation structure.

This helps fill gaps in station coverage, especially in under-measured areas like Africa, Siberia, and the Arctic.

>>509261093 (OP)
Can you show me a picture of sea level rise from 1920 till 2020? Like, a pic from the same place in two different time periods that prove your outrageous claim of 14 inches of rise?

>>509267256
>>509267301
>>509267343
Berkeley Earth also incorporates sea surface temperatures, using:

Data from ARGO floats, buoys, and ships

Adjustments for changes in measurement technique (e.g., canvas buckets vs. engine intakes)

They then combine land and ocean records into a global average using area-weighted methods.

>>509261093 (OP)
Scientist here
Kill yourself, and take two billion others with you. It’s the only way to solve the climate c”crisis”

>>509267256
>>509267301
>>509267343
>>509267399
All Berkeley Earth code, data, and methodologies are:

Publicly available on their website

Reproducible by independent researchers

Designed to maximize transparency and scientific scrutiny

Their approach was initially funded in part by organizations that were skeptical of climate change, and their goal was to test the mainstream record independently — yet their findings have closely matched those of NASA, NOAA, and HadCRUT.

>>509263246
>Please stop letting centerist ‘conservatives’ pretend to be us.
These people are not conservatives, not even centrists.
>>509263324
>The last 10 years
try the last 50-80 years, this shit is going all the way to the 1950s (picrel), and even before if you care dyor. All the while ignoring the mounting evidence of the role the solar cycle is playing on the entire thing.
Can't really fine the sun for free think or free speech using CO2 credits I guess

>>509261093 (OP)
>our data from the last 50 years shows temperature rising
>ignore the data from any point before that though
>no it was not warmer for the last 300 years until temperatures dipped worldwide in the 40s and 50s
>no this is not the second coolest it's been in over a thousand years
>dumb fucking goy
Very wise

>>509261093 (OP)
Get out of Canada, china

The oceans warming is no small feat and if true (always question data and how it is obtained)
Then yeah there is cause for concern. But if it’s as much cause for concern as some say, then we need to go to war with China and India yesterday, and when we are done kill off 90% of Africans.

Nobody who genuinely cares about climate will deny this, but most will say to not do this. So then fuck it
>t. Scientist published in Nature

>>509267256
>historical shiplogs
>"european" data sources
>same weight as NASA, meaning no consistency on the measurement methodology or itemization of which sources factored where
>>509267301
>"automated algorithms" identifying a wide variety of things that would directly influence the data, no mention of what factors are weighted where, or what constitutes an outlier and how many were in the dataset
>"robust" but unnamed statistical methods (weighting) to keep using obviously flawed datapoints rather than deleting it
>urban data is "corrected" (changed), no mention of how it's changed or why it would be changed other than "urban heat island effect"
>no mention of benchmarks
>no st.dev
>no discrete N value, a vague number when there's no reason
Anon, you tried; this does not mean what you think it does.

>>509267760
>wall of green text
you already admitted that you're getting paid to shill

>>509267451
>Their approach was initially funded in part by organizations that were skeptical of climate change, and their goal was to test the mainstream record independently — yet their findings have closely matched those of NASA, NOAA, and HadCRUT.
LMFAO, retard. are you even reading what you're copypasting from chatGPT?

>>509267978
Why didnt you read it? Oh, that's right, you dont understand science enough to understand the critique. I get paid to analyze data, I post on 4chan because this is my home and no where else wants a guro smugposting dickhead who disagrees with controversial topics. I've posted here for 16 years to tell retarded doomposting faggots to fuck off with their nonsense, and I have no intention of stopping any time soon. Why are you posting here anon? I love it. You, evidently, do not, you unscientific illiterate shitposting faggot.

>>509265190
What you're saying is right that CO2 levels are helping plants grow faster and bigger now, but where are you getting the idea that the world would run out of CO2 with out burning fossil fuels?

>>509261093 (OP)
Fake.

>>509262665
>China is making massive investments in alternative energies from hydro to solar.
also the planet's largest contributor to greenhouse gases. make a real difference, agitate there

>>509267978
what is your opinion on the replication crisis

>>509261093 (OP)
why isn't insurance on coastal properties increasing?

>>509261093 (OP)
There is no practical solution to it if we are to take the theory at face value. My suggestion is to go back to the drawing board and try to tone it down to the point where you can actually present the solution as something a handful of nations can actually pull off. I mean you faggots did that with the whole ozone layer thing and banning CFC's. They were banned and the crisis ended. Everybody either forgot or they are unironic midwits who actually think they could just pass a law and a fix a supposed hole in the ozone layer.

>>509268292
Because once deposited into stone, the only way carbon is released is via volcanic erruptions, which is negligible. Perhaps if we were to be to get hit by a planet killer asteroid, but obviously, we won't be around to enjoy that carbon.

We are at the end of the rope on geological time scales. Carbon has been disappearing out of the atmosphere for hundreds of millions of years and we are not getting it back in any significant way. This isn't just some theory, it's grounded in science any third grader can understand. It is why "the science" is flummoxed about how we lost all our megafauna like sabre tooth tigers and wooly mammoths at the end of the last ice age. When the food chain breaks, the biggest die first. But it would be haram for anyone important to admit that in the current political climate. You might as well drink the hemlock.

>>509268333
Shitskins are the largest polluters so we need to carbon tax white countries.

Cows poop and make le methane emission so you can't eat beef but 1.4 billion jeets can be street shitting all day and living amongst infinitycows farting and shitting everywhere.

It’s the sun. It’s normal. It was hotter in the past. Climate science is Lysenkoism.

https://www.mdpi.com/2673-7418/4/3/17

>>509261093 (OP)
Republicans lying about reality for comfortable fiction?
What's fucking new.

>>509266130
>unironically reposting facebook boomer tier uncited infographics
room temperature IQ confirmed
>pre industrial baseline CO2: 280ppm
>current day CO2: 430ppm and rising every year
You're telling me only ~2% of that is from humans?

OP is right.
I live in Delaware and am currently posting underwater due to the water level rising above us in 2005.

>>509261093 (OP)
How will paying more taxes, living in pods, eating bugs, and importing millions of Indians and Africans fix whatever you’re talking about?

>>509269470
How do you know we have accurate measurements of past CO2? CO2 doesn't do shit. All the largest temperature fluctuations have happened before people even existed or in caveman times.

>But the rate of change is so high ahhhhh
What, we can measure accurately to less than a degree? What a fucking joke. They have been saying this now for decades upon decades. No change. But it was changing at too high of a rate and all the white countries had to deindustrialize and live in pods to prevent this?

>>509269222
>It's the su-ACK
Reading that paper now.

because Big Oil is the right.

>>509269532
Easy, goy, we do all those sacrifices our benevolent builderberger and FEW-WEF overlords tell us to do that will fix the planet in about 200 years or so, so they can keep using their private planes and suv motorcades and eating their wagyu surrounded by their masked servants, hey it's all about loving happiness, right?

Around a hundred private jets carrying celebrities have descended on Italy to deliver eco-hypocrites including Leonardo DiCaprio, Oprah Winfrey and Bill Gates to the wedding of tech billionaire Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez.
https://modernity.news/2025/06/28/eco-hypocrites-take-hundreds-of-private-jets-to-bezos-wedding/

>>509261093 (OP)
>The right is burying their heads when it

>>509261542
>one actual model ensemble and observed temps.

>>509269222
>Climate science is Lysenkoism
The amount of repackaged and rebranded Soviet Russia techniques from the times of Stalin, being used these days by the "green" parties is...scary.

>>509270707
Did they raise up her base? It looks like an extra 2 'buildings' under her.

>>509270826
Yeah basically. There is a lot of extrapolation and outright ignoring past fluctuation. It's using statistics to lie and claim things are out of the ordinary when clearly they are not.

Dont care, im not driving an EV until I cant buy $500 BMWs from 2005 with dead engines and put new ones in anymore. Until I cant get a new luxury car for $2500 im burning gas, fuck climate change.

>>509270980
billions of chinese and indians and africans will be doing infinitypollution and infinityemissions but don;t ask about that just get in the pod you fucking goy. Here are some graphs that go back 100 years but need to be considered in geological timescales because they describe geological events now stop asking questions you fucking goy.

>>509270950
Things are out of the ordinary, it's too cold.

>>509261093 (OP)
Fuck kikes

>>509261093 (OP)
Fuck off.

>>509270922
No, those are just outbuilding additions around the base I believe. This same effect can be seen up and down the east coast. Fort Sumter has been in place for 200 years. No appreciable sea level rise. Zip on over to Europe for some truly ancient examples. It does not matter. If sea levels DO rise we will adapt. It is why our species is still here. Who gives a shit if a bunch of rich assholes lose their shoreline real estate?