How do I get diagnosed with autism to get government benefits?
I am literally autistic I'm just undiagnosed because my parents were abusive and didn't care but getting the test costs like a thousand dollars and I don't think it's even covered under medicaid which I'm about to fucking lose anyway and I don't know what to do anymore
I also have such terrible anxiety I can't even go into a gas station to talk with a cashier and ALSO have crippling OCD that makes every moment of my life an unending stressful hell
I'm probably also ADHD, I can't focus on anything productive for shit (can't even brush my teeth because it's so boring and tedious)
I need fucking help to function in society and I don't know how to get it and now what little help I have is being fucking taken away from me because I committed the sin of being born mentally ill in a fucked up and perpetually poor WHITE household
please fucking help me what am I supposed to do

Bump

Idk ask a doctor lol

>>509273720 (OP)
You can’t self diagnose yourself
You remind me of anons here who self diagnose as psychopaths. It’s weird and idk why you want to self identify as a fuck up when you’re not

>>509273720 (OP)
You weren't born with any of those problems and you can fix all of them through personal effort.

>>509273720 (OP)
Just quit being useless.

>>509273720 (OP)
You need two doctors opinions (diagnosis), after qualifying for state insurance, and then afterwards a social security attorney to help you get SSI.

>>509273720 (OP)
just bee yourself

>>509273807
I literally AM a fuckup
I've never had a job, didn't go to college, don't have a license or car, never leave my piece of shit house or even my bedroom because my parents are screaming at each other and dying and poor because of their own retardation which has fucked me over so hard I can't even describe it

I'm not stupid, I've done my own research on autism and the other disorders I've mentioned, I know the symptoms, I know my own behavior, I've talked to a therapist but that went fucking nowhere and they just tried to immediately put me on SSRIs without telling me they break your fucking dick forever (had to find a medical study MYSELF to figure that nigger shit out)

I've talked with a lot of diagnosed autistic people, and not only do I immediately click with them I recognize everything I understand about it and relate to everything they say about the struggles with their behavior and how they think in general which is identically to me, broadly speaking

I KNOW I have autism, I KNOW I have anxiety and OCD, and I KNOW I have ADHD because my brother takes fucking medication for it and I had to get permission in elementary school to twiddle with fucking wax or a stress ball just to focus on class and I know how I can't even make myself focus on things I want to do like games (I also struggled REALLY hard with reading books in school) and anything I DO manage to focus on I literally hyperfocus to the point of exhausting myself and then my interest in it just immediately disappears the next day

I'm not fucking stupid, I'm ill and need help my parents never gave me, they just hit me and yelled at me for not being normal and traumatized me with all the violence and abuse that went on in the house

The problem is getting an actual diagnosis for these things and getting real help feels fucking impossible and now orange nigger is taking away my healthcare I was using to even TRY to fix my fucked up broken self and I don't know where to go or what to do

>>509273720 (OP)
Your putting yourself on the future kill list if you do this

>>509273720 (OP)
if you have insurance, ask one of their doctors to refer you to a specialist. if you don't have insurance, go to your county social services and get on medicaid. get a referal and a diagnoses.

>>509273936
>two doctors
Primary doctors? Therapists? What do I need exactly?
I went to two different therapists (under the same general program my doctor got me into) and when I told them all the problems I had and why I thought I had all the conditions I listed in the OP they didn't challenge me at all and talked me through it, is that considered a diagnosis?

>>509274682
Anon I am on medicaid, the problem is I'm going to be ineligible under this new nigger bill because I don't work
I already went to my doctor and he just sent me to extremely generalized cookie cutter therapy that's offered through the network he's a part of and it didn't really amount to anything because I didn't want to take the medications they tried to force on me
If it's out of his network (basically everything I would need is) I'm on my fucking own and my retarded mental problems make doing that kind of shit fell like I'm sticking my hands in a woodchipper

>>509274727
if you don't already have it, get ebe, medicaid and general relife. you'll most likely have to see a psychiatrist or psychologist for several months, usually once a month, before they'll sign the paperwork from social service confirming your disability. a few months after that, apply for ssi. they want the doctor to confirm permanent disablity. they may or may not do this but if you get ssi in the future, you're payments start from the date of your first application. this is why shysters will take your appeal on contingency.

>>509274988
i read somewhere the medicaid thing doesn't start until 2029. don't quote me, i'm still looking into it, but i doubt it's going to happen immediately.

>>509273720 (OP)
I'm diagnosed with autism and I've been rejected for social security disability benefits five times. However, my state is known for denying benefits to people who are literally bedridden, so ymmv depending on your state.

>>509274988
you refused medical treatment. don't do that. if you don't want to take meds, then don't. just don't tell them about it. just say they're not working. you need to become treatment resistant so you can ssi.

>>509273720 (OP)
youre just like me fr
i was lucky enough to have the test paid for by my school though

>>509275274
I'm on medicaid (but I'm going to fucking lose it because I don't work), what are the other two? What's the requirements/what do they provide?
I don't even know how to see an actual psychiatrist/psychologist around here instead of some dumbfuck generalized girl therapist

>>509275478
get a shyster that specializes in ssi appeals. they do it on contingency. you get paid from the date of your first application and they take a percentage. it's almost impossible to get it any other way unless your in some kind of locked facility long term.

>>509275478
How did you get diagnosed?
>>509275657
What's a shyster?

>>509275503
anon I don't want to have to lie about not taking medication
I just don't want to become a zombie with a broken dick and sex drive
literally the first thing the girl I first saw said after I described everything was to recommend SSRIs and when I asked about side effects she fucking pulled out her phone and started googling

>>509275656
do you have a county mental health clinic? start there if you have one. if not, call the number on your card and say you need a referal to a mental health professional. sometimes they make you get a referal from a regular doctor. i just called my county mental health clinic and made an appointment and got a diagnoses for major depression and severe anxiety. first ssi application was denied. i'll probably reapply when i stop being lazy.

>>509275710
county mental health clinic did diagnoses
shyster = lawyer. some specialize in ssi/ssdi appeals. that's the kind you want.

>>509275656
whats your ocd like

>>509273807
I self diagnosed as a psychopath and killed a couple people. Didn't enjoy it so I think you're right.

>>509275832
ssri's worked for me but not for everyone. went from lowest dose of zoloft to max dose over a year. then tapered off over 6 months and then off completely. during that time i went from fapping 2-3 times a day to 3-4 times a week so not much effect on libido. cognitive ability was slightly impaired but nothing major. it depends on the person. the only person who's going to know if you're taking them is you. what they don't know isn't goign to hurt them and only help you. or you might want to try it and see if it helps. if it doesn't, tell your doctor it's not helping. don't be specific and complain about known side effects. just tell them you don't feel any better when you're taking them. then you're not lying.

>>509274410
symptoms of CPTSD often mirror symptoms of high functioning autism, I was diagnosed as a kid with aspergers, reluctantly accepted im forever an autist, but ended up lying to join the Army, training being forced to live all day with random people for months seemed to make many of my symptoms vanish and I was able to become a semi normie, even able to converse in groups and with women and not come off as a sperg, lost my virginity in Korea and learned one night stands are equally as unfulfilling as jacking off, and feel perhaps even dirtier. You may be like me and just got screwed up a bit from having a bad upbringing full of neglect and abuse. I was also diagnosed ADD/ADHD and now I do not think thats a thing, kids are not good at sitting still in general and thats made worse if the kid spends his time playing games, on a phone or watching tv, which are all unnaturally hyper-engaging thus making one accustomed to hyperstimulation, making it harder to sit still and pay attention to boring things.

I wouldn't write yourself off as though you cant recover at least partially from the problems you describe.

>>509275943
I'm not sure, I'm so isolated because I don't drive and live in the most car cucked nation on earth
I've been trying to drive recently so I can get a license but my anxiety makes it really hard, I'm so fucking scared on the road

>>509276815
we're more resilient than we think we are. first you need to get the symptoms under control as much as possible and then try to find a way to manage the rest. at least that's what worked for me. it wasn't easy, and i'm not stupid enoug to say it will work for everyone. just offering my experience of going through some pretty hellish shit. still, a lot of people have it a lot worse than i did so in that i was lucky.

>>509276815
Anon my problems exist whether I'm isolated or not, and the other conditions I described have a high correlation with autism from what I've researched
If I'm not autistic I would consider blowing my brains out because it's such an obvious conclusion based on logic and facts about my behavior that if it wasn't true my fundamental understanding of the world is so warped I might as well stop living

>>509277009
i'm in commiefornia and they have a service called veyo to take you to doctor's appointments. it's covered by medi-cal. maybe they have something like that where you are.

>>509276815
Good for you anon. Exposure therapy is the only cure for this kind of thing. "I'm too scared to talk to a cashier" means you need to get out and condition yourself to stop being afraid. They literally do not care about you. 99% of people don't. They are so absorbed in their own world or on autopilot they can't even register you. Half the people in the grocery store dont even seem conscious to me most of the time and just wander about like zombies. It's truly like playing oblivion or skyrim and caring about what the NPCs in that game may say about you.

>>509276444
this is the study I found that made me swear never to take them at all
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8061302/
there are cases where it fucked up people's sexual function indefinitely even after just taking them for a brief period, that's not a risk I'm willing to take under any circumstances
It's made me extremely wary of any other kind of "behavior" medication even though obviously they're not all SSRIs, and the fact I had to find this shit out myself instead of from the person recommending it to me has destroyed my faith in the medical system entirely

>>509277283
on medicaid they offer ridesharing shit, but it's extremely unreliable and the first time I tried it the person showed up and hour early for an appointment 10 minutes from where I live and I was never told that would be the case when I set it up and the driver was just some random uber who had no idea why I was so confused and not ready to leave
and then when I called to reschedule the on time one just never showed up

>>509274410
Reading your post again, I really think you have CPTSD, and largely recovery from that is not impossible. Im going to assume you don't believe in God, like I didn't up untill two years ago. The thing is, it's going to be harder to recover without God's help, and it sounds like you come from a similar situation as I did, so just know that much those "mental illnesses" you describe, and the craziness that exists in your parents, are demonic in nature, your family is heavily oppressed just like mine is. Prayer helps.

>>509273720 (OP)
No gibs for you, freeloading nigger.
MAGA and DOGE - TOTAL NEET DEATH!!!

>>509277318
i only took them because they helped other people in my family. i knew we shared similar genetics and similar symptoms so i was willing to try them. without that i doubt that i would have taken them. could have been complete placebo effect and we're all predisposed to be be easily suggestible. you know what's best for you, not me. i'm just some random on the internet talking about my own experience.

>>509277298
>They literally do not care about you. 99% of people don't. They are so absorbed in their own world or on autopilot they can't even register you.
Anon, I know this, but that doesn't make my fear go away
That's what's so fucked up about mental problems, I am literally the most logical and rational thinking person I know and I understand things like that and KNOW they are true but my body goes into fight or flight and my brain is always racing at a thousand miles an hour no matter what and it makes me fucking hate myself so much and it makes doing anything at all feel completely impossible sometimes, especially when the few coping mechanisms I have (like being angry and doing shit out of spite) get me yelled at by my own family for being "wrong" and "not normal"
With the OCD stuff it's even worse, that fucking condition has wasted literal years of my life doing absolutely fucking pointless bullshit for no reason other than if I don't do it I am overwhelmed with frustration and want to scream and tear my hair out because I bumped my book into the shelf while putting it back on and then I have to press the pages down to make sure they're fine and wipe the cover profusely and try again and again and again until it's taken me 10+ fucking minutes to put a fucking book on my shelf while wanting to fucking kill myself the entire time
I live in hell

>>509277631
That's fine, real anecdotes are what I value as reputable information
And wouldn't you know, I found a lot of anecdotes online that correlated with that study, and the sources for that study include other studies that have cases identical to the anecdotes I found online too
I'm not comfortable with that level of risk, period, it's like if a medication had a 1% chance of making chocolate taste like literal shit for the rest of my life, I would never fucking take it

>>509277182
Your fundamental understanding of the world is only warped slightly if you instead have CPTSD, and you could have both. I'm just trying to tell you you can likely get much better, but for me it required extreme exposure/months without any isolation, but my symptoms were really bad. I think there are things you could do that would help, but I am not saying don't go get a diagnoses for disability. Sounds like you kinda gave up on life, and you shouldn't.

Were you formally diagnosed with anything severe? If not, I'd recommend the military, you sound smart so you could probably go intel and get a top secret, the military can be unironically fun and in the end you may end up with 100% disability like I did, which is $3,831 per month, which is more money than I've ever made.

>>509277814
i did't take the vax because i wan't comfortabl with the benfit/long term risk. ssri's and other psych meds are over prescribed and can have extremely serious side effect even short term, but that's all they have or at least that's what they were taught in school. the method of treatment is literally- you self report xyz symptoms. they've used something in the past to treat those symptoms. lets see if it works in this case. maybe yes, maybe no. anyone who tells you any different is a liar.

>>509278219
Anon my problem is the federal government just made me ineligible for healthcare and I don't even know how to get a diagnosis for anything after being sent to random in network therapist that didn't seem to be able to help me much either
I don't feel capable of working a 9-5 with the way that I am, I can't even get myself to wake up to watch fucking anime on the internet at a certain time because my sleep schedule is so erratic and constantly changing
It feels like just the way I fundamentally am is completely incompatible with modern society no matter how much I try and now the little help I have is getting taken from me

>>509277701
The problem is you DON'T know it anon. You understand it, but you shy away from it and your brain starts making up all these scenarios of what if and what may be and then the anxiety kicks in and starts loop validating itself from a lack of input. You need to go out, embrace the anxiety see that nothing is happening, and allow your brain to rewire for that scenario. The less you do this the worse your false internal model gets. You have to do it as much as possible until you're bored and it becomes monotonous. I had your exact problem and it only started curing itself when i got a door to door sales job. Knocking on strangers doors in their homes and trying to sell them stuff. Worst thing that happened to me was someone told me to fuck off.

This is basically like you have some minor issues, but you've cabin fevered them into these massive psychological profiles. This cannot get better in any other way besides jumping in dick first.

>>509278351
Is that considered a formal diagnosis?
I spent months with a therapist talking about the problems I had and how I thought it fit under the conditions I listed but I don't know if that counts as a diagnosis for anything if it's just a general therapist
I don't even know the difference between a psychiatrist or psychologist or how to see one, even when I was initially going to try meds before doing research the person I was gonna get on the phone with was just a nurse or something, not either of those (a pill pusher)

The autism thing is a stickler for me because it seems like getting diagnosed as an adult is expensive and difficult and if I can't get a genuine benefit from doing so trying to figure it all out seems pointless
I don't understand why getting help has to be so fucking difficult

>>509278498
That's really hard to do when you live here and don't drive, which in itself is a massive hurdle because that DOES have severe consequences if you fuck up, which makes my anxiety even fucking worse
It feels like no matter what I do I'm just going be miserable and stressed no matter what and because of my fucked up upbringing my response to stress is to just shut myself away in my room and not do anything, it creates this cancerous loop of inaction and trying to break out of it when I'm still stuck in this shitty fucking house with these shitty fucking people who's lives are falling apart because of their own mistakes that I just happened to exist in the middle of for my entire goddamn life getting fucked over at every turn is so fucking hard

>>509278761
The scenario is shit but just know, I have experienced this to the exact letter. In fact, it still comes up when I don't go out for long periods of time. The only saving grace I have is past experiences to reference as "oh yeah, I did that a lot and nothing bad ever happened" which helps keep the anxiety in check. When I was 15 I was so scared to drive I put it off for an extra year because I was convinced it was impossible and that I'd end up killing myself. Circumstances changed and I had no choice and eventually, you realize driving is piss easy. Truly realize it. OCD is the same shit, if I stay in for too long I end up smoking weed and just autistically rearranging everything in my house to fit some image I think I need. You have to get the fuck out of the house when this happens, you just have to.

You're basically drowning mentally right now, my only advice to you is whatever gives you anxiety you need to just head int hat direction. Whatever it is that scares you and makes you sweat go that way.

>>509278761
>>509279055
and don't THINK about it, just DO it. Just Get up and run into your anxiety anon. Practice this every day as much as you can in any way you can and build up a tolerance over time.

>>509279055
Well that's all good advice but it doesn't help my healthcare getting taken away soon
I don't even know where to find a dentist or eye doctor that takes medicaid which I really need to see, I know I have at least one cavity and I barely ever brush my teeth even though I know it's terrible
even going to the bathroom is hard, OCD and ADHD make just wiping my fucking ass feel like a torturous chore that I can't sit through and I just sit there for literal hours until I finally finish

Pretending to be autistic is easy. Just refuse to make eye contact with people.

>>509279332
>Pretending to be autistic is easy. Just refuse to make eye contact with people.

won't people just assume you're a zoomer then?

>>509273720 (OP)
Every other faggot says they're autistic but they don't actually even know what autism means or how it is defined.

>>509279332
I don't need to pretend
I don't even make eye contact with my own family because it makes me uncomfortable

>>509279266
I've had the same cavity for like 25 years. Don't worry about it, we're all going to die. You could be dead tomorrow. Do not sweat the small shit. I know this is just platitudes but they're really true. Go watch fight club. We're too civilized and trapped in modern hell. No one taught us how to be men and how to face the world, most people like it that way too but it's not natural. Men are defined by facing danger and scary shit head on. It has to be developed and cultivated.

Your parents probably failed you, mine did but now you're aware of it and now you have the chance to course correct.

>>509279266
>OCD and ADHD make just wiping my fucking ass feel like a torturous chore

you can easily fix this by just counting off 9 sqaures of toilet paper and then telling yourself that when you're done you HAVE to stand up, flush, and pull up your pants. Some people 3-3-3. Some people 5-2-2. If you get really good you can pull a 7-2.

>>509278442
The sleep schedule thing is not a problem once your working in my experience.

But I really think if you can you should join the miltary if you aren't able to get disability, the military in my view is actually much easier for people like us, every step is kinda made for you, it's very streamlined, plus your housing, healthcare, and food is free. You sound intelligent enough to go become intelligence, and generally the types of people that join intel are going to be able to hold an intelligent conversation with a sperg, if they arent a sperg themselves, and there's other easier or funner jobs if that doesn't sound like your thing but it'll be harder to find people you'd wanna talk to outside intel, I did like the infantry guys I met, maybe not all smart but they were chill.

>>509279598
Anon I'm trying, that's why I made this thread
The government taking away my healthcare is a fucking problem though when there's a lot of shit I need to get done to make up for lost time
Hell I'm already fucked over because my state literally just enacted a law that makes new drivers pay increased insurance premiums for EIGHT YEARS instead of three and I didn't get my license before the cutoff date cause I can't fix my sleep schedule and I'm not going to take a fucking driving test while horribly sleep deprived
I'm gonna stop stressposting so much and go do something else to calm my mind through the night, I was just looking for advice on finding REAL help since apparently it's a fucking full time job to even do that
I hate living in this shitty nigger world

>>509279770
Anon I will never stand up from a toilet until my ass is spotless, and because I live in fucktarded burgerstan the idea of a built in hose for your ass on the toilet is somehow not completely reasonable and I'm forced to spit on fucking single ply paper to get myself clean like a fucking pajeet

>>509279888
well good luck anon, before you go to bed try going outside and doing something that makes you uncomfortable

>>509279867
I've considered the military, but as much as I like rigidity in routine and do well when I'm directed I really don't like being told what to do, and I don't like physical activity
I also really don't want to put myself on a list to be an Israel meat shield in any capacity, plus I have a problem that made me get hurt just doing minor exercises on my own that I probably need surgery to fix
Which is a huge problem if I'm getting dropped from Medicaid for not being a goddamn wagie which is impossible when you don't drive which is impossible when you are required by law to pay for insurance to even get a fucking license and they just made insurance even more expensive and basically I'm ready to fucking give up and die