apparently WW2 took even the Germans by surprise - they had viewed Hitler more like Trump, i.e. a guy who will make Germany great again but without succumbing to war because a next WW would obviously bring destruction, and that's not how you make a nation great. i'm talking about the average people, the voters
they even cherished Anschluss and the stuff with Czechoslovakia in 1938 because that was all accomplished without firing a single shot
and then through August 1939 they were bombarded with the kind of propaganda that made them nervous, and on 1 September 1939 they were really caught by surprise by the announced Invasion of Poland, even though it was branded as a defensive act, since the news of the war meant the war economy that was already kickstarted replete with price controls, rationing & food cards was going to last for years longer
digging deep into the info from the events as they unfolded paints the picture that the Germans were basically scammed just like Americans with Trump promising peace, and then bombing Iran. of course after France was conquered in 6 weeks the Germans fell for warmongering enthusiasm hook, line and sinker, but I'd too. it's kinda creepy when you think about all of it, I mean, when the Germans voted for NSDAP in 1932 and 1933, they definitely didn't vote for THIS (pic related)
Was Nazism a (((psyop))) meant to turn Germany into rubble with WW2, since they stopped short of doing that in WW1? Think about it. From their perspective it was Germany that started WW1 and it basically got out unscathed through the turmoil, as far as the immaterial cultural capital goes. In hindsight, the destruction of Germany in WW2 as a place and as a nation, and the completion of the plan to turn it into a hapless Western-owned economic zone, was kinda like a belayed revenge for WW1, and Nazism ensured the first strike came from Germany again allowing the revenge to be carried out with the Allied hands clean
>>509280897Poland beat off the mongols, only russkeks got raped by them
We're pure, R1Aryan & I've got the Ted Kaczynski pheno to boot
did the germs vote for this, or were they scammed?
>>509280779 (OP)basically yes. a lot of morons on here will come in and larp about "oh this and that hitler blah blah blah blah" but as someone with family that lived through it and had at least 3 people serve, it decimated the average person. no one wants to talk about german suffering during the war because this board is obsessed with praising hitler and rightfully shitting on kikes, but they forget how shitty this whole thing was for the average german family who got decimated, leaving germany as it is nowadays
>>509280779 (OP)hitler wrote a book about german manifest destiny and then followed through.
trump promised no war but also contain iran's nuclear program and then followed through.
I don't think the similarities go much deeper than clearly signaling intent and then pursuing said intent. only you seem completely bamboozled as to what those intentions were. try reading a book (mein kampf for example)
>>509280779 (OP)of course, like the putin supporters that liked that he made the cunt better than the 90s but then chimped out like a retarded nigger
>>509280779 (OP)>but I'd too.this isnt proper english. you dont say "I'd too". you say "I would too" I'd does not replace I would in this context, no one ever talks like that.
>>509281870the average german didnt read mein kampf, it was considered as more of a vibes book from political infancy than a real platform, and hitler had promised peace and prosperity in his campaign speeches & during his rule
>>509280941you can beat off my mongol dick all you want sweaty
>>509280941these mongols razed through poland several times thoughbeit
>>509280941Russians occupied you for centuries. If Russians are Asian then so are Poles.
>>509280779 (OP)wait are you telling me the Libtards were actually right about the fascism stuff?
>>509282318not through Poland, they were en route to Hungary through South-eastern Poland once, that's different from being conquered property of the Khan for almost 3 centuries continuous like the russoids
>>509280779 (OP)>of course after France was conquered in 6 weeks the Germans fell for warmongering enthusiasm hook, line and sinkerThere's one anecdotal report, when moving to the Soviet borders a soldier was asked where are they going and he said "to die." So the spirit of irony was still around at least in some form.
The Reich was lying about its foreign policies all the time. Like before the invasion they were spreading the information and assuring Europe that the USSR has promised to give Ukraine to the Reich to secure food for Europe: something the German Empire was dreaming about back in the day.
>>509280941but you and germans got raped by huns, and russians by mongols.
us nords are the only untainted whites
Hitler literally wrote a book about how germany needed to focus on territorial conquest "by the sword"
>>509282748state dept and defense dept statements
>>509282101wrong, it was a bestseller and people had superior attention spans
>>509280779 (OP)>they had viewed Hitler more like Trump,no they didn't because Trump wasn't born yet
>>509285510and now "The Subtle Art of not Giving a F*CK" is a bestseller
>>509280779 (OP)People never bring up the scourge of Bolshevism and how fed up the German people were with Marxist degeneracy bringing ruin to their nation. Compare Germany prior to Adolph's election to what it looked like afterwards. What did Germany's economy look like after they ejected all the Jews from their government and financial institutions?
>>509286312actually his speeches pre-war focused on how he saved Germany from catastrophe that the evil international-jewish cabal had planned for Germany, from impending doom by making it "prosperous" and "secure"
>>509288161actually national socialism was cooked up by the German militarists and industrialists precisely to counter the rising popularity of socialism and communism, look it up, Hitler was literally a Reichswehr (military intelligence) agent on a mission to infiltrate and take over the niche DAP German Worker's Party
i.e. what you'd call today a fed or a glownigger
>>509285510being a bestseller just means it was in top 20 or however many titles for any length of time basically, not that "most people read it"
and that's assuming inns were different back then and they didn't have best selling lists by genre, meaning it just had to outsell other political tripe nobody reads
picrel is the #2 nonfiction bestseller this week
Everyone was surprised by the war because no one expected Britain and France to actually declare war over something as stupid and unnecessary as the Danzig/Corridor question, or expected Poland to suicide itself for basically no reason. The Allied powers acted highly irrationally and against their own national self-interests. That's why the war took everyone by surprise. Now of course we know why they did what they did (they were all controlled by the same international banking cabal) but the Germans are by their very nature quite naive, and so did not comprehend how subverted their neighbors already were until it was too late.
>>509288872Britain only declared war on September 3rd, people were already surprised of the Invasion of Poland itself, on September 1st, as plenty of diaries demonstrate
It's the entire reason the Big Lie agit-prop where "timeline got fucked up" (as Silvio Dante would put it) i.e. "Bloody Sunday" from September 3rd was promoted by Goebbels to boost war enthusiasm
>>509280779 (OP)>Was Nazism a (((psyop))) meant to turn Germany into rubble with WW2,Think bigger
It was to conquer Europe for the jews and divide the spoils between Amerikikes and judeo-bolsheviks
>>509288308>Hitler was literally a Reichswehr (military intelligence) agent on a mission to infiltrate and take over the niche DAP German Worker's PartyIf you dig into this 'fact', you find out the DAP was the political vehicle of the judeomasonic Thule Society, and Hitler's commanding officer at the time was himself a Thulist
>>509289196>Hitler's commanding officerthe current term is "handler" :^)
>>509289170>surprised ofsurprised by* sorry pulled an all-nighter and my brain is zapping
>>509289170Hitler tried to get Poland and Britain to the negotiating table for the entire August of 1939. The planned start date for Fall Weiss was delayed multiple times, as you can read in Guderian's memoirs. Everything indicates Hitler genuinely tried to resolve the Corridor crisis peacefully, but Britain was determined to push Poland into war, and the Poles happily complied. It was an untenable situation.
>>509289521Obviously Hitler was baited into war by Britain, because he had been their puppet all along
>>509286312Politicians are vicious scumbags
>>509289707kek
>>509289521nah, already in July they were trying to get Molotov and Stalin on their side, they got their wish in August when they signed the pact after a week of negotiations
>>509282495>Occupation means endless rapeWhen has this ever happened?
>>509280779 (OP)>>509280941>>509281005>>509282101>>509282867maybe if the PARADISUS IUDAEORUM wasn't inhabited by retarded mischling niggers who want to genocide everyone up to the Oder or the Elbe with the poisoned guarantee of aid from their Anglo-French-Jewish daddies instead of just negotiating that plebiscite and international railway corridor to the territories of whoever ends up exclaved with Hitler after murdering Pilsudski by slow poisoning to enshrine the faggy '30s equivalent of a neocon junta this wouldn't have happened huh you pseudoslav kike nigger
>>509280779 (OP)>Was Nazism a (((psyop))) meant to turn Germany into rubble with WW2Well, yes, thus they saw Hitler as the ''Icebreaker''.
>>509291113what's the likelihood you're a Polish-American with schizophrenia?
I have no idea where this schizo shit comes from. If the Allies wanted to destroy Germany after WWI they could've done that by giving them an even worse peace treaty. It's not like the Germans could refuse. But according to you, the Allies decided to get revenge and kill Germany by installing Hitler and starting another war after the Weimar Republic was collapsing economically and giving birth to the LGBT movement.
Just accept that you should've given up Danzig.
>>509290899Occupation under Russians is endless rape, and that's a good thing.
>>509292341you know they had to give it to em, but never do it dirty, gotta do it clean, like Pontius Pilate
What should I read after Iron Coffins? Looking for more first-hand accounts of the war, doesn't matter which side and theater.
>>509286312But /pol/ is telling me he was a pacifist who didnt want war and was tricked by kikes.
And in most later speeches, offten posten by NSs he is speaking about respect for neighbours and not wanting foreign territories/war.
>>509288872At least Britain allways fought whoever was gaining hegemony on continent (Napoleon, Russia in Crimean wars...). But Hitler tought that they would be OK with Reich controlling continent because they are both germanics.
>>509281039>someone with family that lived through it and had at least 3 people serve, it decimated the average person. no one wants to talk about german sufferingWell said. People just want to say "WW2, Germans bad", and stop there.
>>509280779 (OP)The jewish powers had declared war on germany nigger
And the subhuman powers like poooland had occupied german land with almost exclusively german inhabitants and mistreated them and did a real life gaza event on them.
Now after ww2 the polish subhumans murdered everyone they could find. Millions of elderly and women and children were beutally raped before they were murdered by the slavic subhumans.
And still to this day 1/3 of all poolish people live in houses built by germans, in german cities built by germans on german land.
>>509280779 (OP)>NazismThis is a tranny neologism, i dont know what it is trying to achieve though.
>>509295822you type like a nigger and your shit's all retarded
>>509292341>, the Allies decided to get revenge and kill Germany by installing Hitler and starting another warIt wasn't just about Germany, it was about all of Europe, and not just physically, but racially and culturally
Versailles was quite obviously designed to create the conditions for Hitler and the NSDAP to rise
>>509295124>Hitler tought that they would be OK with Reich controlling continent because they are both germanicsBecause he was indoctrinated by British asset Karl Haushofer and the British were leading him on all the way up to 1939 with the 'War party vs Peace party' play they staged
They knew but they just didnt think they would be the victim
>>509291113based, it didn't have to be this way
>>509296272>14,000 carefully selected Nazi cadres represented 80 million GermansThis is your brain on anglokikery
>>509295124Hitler was generally a Britannophile. The whole Nazi German ideology was licked off the British one and flavored with German autism. He dreamed of his India in the East first of all.
>>509280779 (OP)The difference is the state that the nations are in. After they loss ww1 they were in a massive debt and there country was in a really bad state. Which was why he was able to get his people to agree to it America would need to have a big recession or another 9/11 event to match it
i find it hilarious how church is standing there, intact, meanwhile when NATO bombed Serbia in late 90s they specifically targeted even smol monasteries, what could even change so drastically in those 50 years
>>509280779 (OP)they just invaded Poland for two weeks and then went back home. at least thata what my grandfather did
he only had to put on his boots again because france and England chimped out.
>>509281005We were backstabbed, we made the mistake to think anglos were on our side instead they were on the jews side
>>509280779 (OP)>it was Germany that started WW1>it basically got out unscathed through the turmoil, as far as the immaterial cultural capital goes>apparently WW2 took even the Germans by surprise>more like Trump, i.e. a guy who will make Germany great again but without succumbing to war>they were really caught by surprise by the announced Invasion of Poland,>paints the picture that the Germans were basically scammed just like Americans with Trump promising peace, and then bombing Iranpolish education is on the same level as american. absolutely historically illiterate.
>>509301956The correct term would be retarded, not backstabbed. Anglos never allied with you, your ideological delusions dont count.
>>509280779 (OP)>>509280779 (OP)England started the war not Germany. Germany just got back their lands from poland and fucked with Jewish banking elites. It was the alcoholic in debt Churchill being lead by the Jewish group known as the focus who started the actual war and destroyed the world on behalf of his Jewish debtors.
>>509280941Greeks concluded you were all barbarians long ago and i have seen absolutely no evidence they were wrong and that you slavs have changed
>>509280779 (OP)>just like Americans with Trump promising peace, and then bombing Irananon this isn't something new
Obama said he was going to repeal the Patriot Act and pull the US out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and then he got in, renewed the Patriot Act, and got us involved in several more sand wars. leaders do this shit all the time.
>>509280779 (OP)weź leki pojebie żydowski