The world works on a very simply premise. If you control a choke point - or any part of a chokepoint - in the economy, you capture unlimited (unearned) income.

It can be an informational chokepoint, a physical chokepoint, a licensing chokepoint -- it's all the same. The world is, in essence, ruled by bridge trolls.

You can prove this with a simple thought experiment: in a competitive market economy, any individual competitor who spends money lobbying for special favors will have to raise prices to do so since their lobbying moneys will have to come out of capital profits, putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage against other capital. Not so with our bridge trolls, who extract tolls and fold those gains into lobbying for special treatment (to protect their choke point or effect other interests) without fear of losing economic advantage, since there is no competition for a bridge troll.

Most of you are going to be too fucking stupid to get this, but this has been known for a long, long time now. This is what "rent seeking" literally means. It means controlling some point of privilege in the economy, which by its nature generates unearned income (or it's definitionally not a point of privilege).

Conflating "race" and "privilege" (or any other thing other than control of an economic chokepoint) is a sleight of hand to ensure there is no language left untainted with which to describe this phenomenon. If I said "economic privilege" you dumbasses will recoil in horror at my use of the word privilege -- that's programmed so that you lack any framework in language to understand this. If you don't have the language for a concept, it is literally impossible for you to understand it.

>>509284901 (OP)
That is the essence of monopoly and what it means to be "elite." If you don't have title to some (important) monopoly, you are not elite. If you do, then you are. In the old days the only reliable form of monopoly was title to land, because everyone needs land to exist and all value generated by prosperity/progress flows into the value of land (by which "land" is meant title to location and/or an area's raw unextracted natural resources).

In modern times, however, new forms of monopoly have emerged, and thus new elites have emerged who are not necessarily claimants to locational/resource titles/rights. For example, those with rights to network broadcasting privileges of specific radio frequencies (broadcast rights) e.g. CBS, NCB, ABC and so forth were massive and formidable monopoly elites (and still are to some extent).

The network effect itself is a form of monopoly, since the effect is self-moating and inherently valuable (hence social media, which is something you BUY if you want to get in the game, you don't BUILD, hence why Elon bought Twitter and renamed it X rather than build a competitor X at a fraction of the cost -- monopolies must be purchased). Zuckerberg did in some sense "create" Meta, but he did so on accident, which is how all monopolies are discovered, whether a new landmass (the Americas) or a network effect unlocked by new technology. It is an accidental discovery. I know for sure most of you will be too stupid to get this part.

But once you truly understand this - and I mean truly understand it - doors will begin to unlock for you and you'll start to see the matrix for what it is, and if you're clever you'll gain the ability to profit immensely from this insight, and/or the ability to agitate/lobby for the redress of the injustices that this system perpetrates.

>>509284918
Either way, until you understand the above, you are at best a peasant. In reality most peasants actually understood the situation and had the language needed to discuss it. You are in fact less than they. There's no word for what you are, but "cattle" isn't a bad approximation.

You can do better and you can be better. Wake the fuck up. Picrel in op: literally you.

>>509284901 (OP)
>>509284918
>>509284938
Remarkable how you wrote so many words to say something so pointless. Bravo.

>>509285030
Three (you)s in one from this 1pbtid cattle, what a deal

>>509284918
Worked out real well for whoever bought Myspace

>>509285121
Ah yes myspace, the last refuge of the retarded goy who's too clever to get out of his own fucking way.

Yes your right, that's why Facebook with all its unlimited resources had to resort to buying Instagram (13 employees) for $1 billion in 2012. That's also why Meta, with its unlimited resources was unable to launch a competitor to X in Threads.

Yes yes you stupid fucking cattle, you're really onto something now.

>>509284901 (OP)
Your choke points do not exist without the government interfering in the markets. Control of them is awarded as political favors and has nothing to do with merit.

>>509284901 (OP)
You you got banks right?

Two banks on either side of the river.

Current sea, currency flows between them.

Gar snap your line and eat you fish.

jews.

>>509285295
Government is the end result of anarchy you stupid twat. Men control choke points and war over them, establish dominions over them, and a hierarchy forms over that dominion. That's what government is. But libertarian jews have convinced you the government created the natural opportunities and those monopolies wouldn't exist absent government -- you've got to be dumber than shit to miss how fucking stupid that is.

>>509284901 (OP)
This is false and not nearly low level enough. Competitive market economies are predicated on civilization, which is predicated on trust.
Your description is what leftist faggots use to justify THEIR abuse of the system they are utterly dependent on.
and the cattle will turn on you first before the bridge trolls, because YOU don't get it

>>509284918
but how did zuck discover new monopoly if face book like websites already existed years prior?

>>509284901 (OP)
Wow, very cool. If you're so fucking smart why are you so fucking broke? What economic chokepoint do you control, nigger?

>>509285480
Op can you give an example of a monopoly you can buy or create with $1 million USD. Don't say become the next Zuckerberg or Magnus Carlson either.

>>509285413
Now we're getting somewhere.

>>509285501
Civilization builds up around control of natural monopiles, because these monopolies provide competitive advantages. It's literally why we settle areas and war over them and hierarchy forms around them and that is what you now call "civilization." Yours is an incredibly myopic understanding of the world. In reality we've gotten to the point where information is so well controlled and you're so far gone that your piggy eyes can't even grasp when a pearl is dangled right in front of them.

>>509285540
His chink emacs controls 100 email accounts telling grandma her granddaughter is in turkish prison, he is the communications bridge troll

It's called supply and demand, circumcised tard.

What you call a "choke-point" economists call "supply" /k/ LARP-faggot.

My penis smells funny.

>>509285599
Money has zero value, FACT
Absolutely based on trust all the way down
and everyone knows not only that, but
YOU are the faggot capitalist rotting in avarice
YOU are the reactionary
YOU are the problem

>>509285540
Projection is a nasty little vice, you should give it up

>>509285515
Facebook monetized the data more efficiently, which is why they scaled and myspace didn't. In the network effect world you get monopolies only. Myspace is supposed to disprove my point when all it does is prove coexistence is impossible, which is how monopolies work. People don't deserve to get this but here I am.

>>509285587
Yes but it wouldn't necessarily be worth more tomorrow. There are $1 million monopolies all over the place. Locational title. The trick is finding a monopoly that's undervalued or undiscovered. But in reality, the gains of monopoly lead to bubbles that you can trade on if you're not a dumb goy.

Bumping interesting thread.

>>509285666
Did you skip penis inspection day again?

>>509285798
I'm not projecting. You're a retarded nigger faggot, a pseudointellectual midwit who thinks you've stumbled on some hitherto unknown economic reality, despite it being known to economists, policy makers and even kings well over a thousand years ago. Fuck off with your faggotty redd*t bullshit you fucking NIGGER.

Anon, I hate being poor, now, but l, but snd but, it's not worth handling strings to gain anything at all!

I can't immagine what an idiot one would have to be to do that or what kind of lies one would have to tell oneself to justify being the ver center of the Shit pile.

That is for nobility and the true peasants, the disgusting rsgs all together both equally without nuance or so much of differentiation of shade! lmao

Bump

>>509285480
>jews
>libertarian

listening to you call other people stupid is quite the joke

you don't need a monopoly to be successful, and you don't need unearned privilege to obtain a monopoly

your post is thoughtful though, and does highlight some of the corruption in our system

>>509285798
but fb is nothing more than a glorified blogger and a very bad one too (login to read post, no date or tags, needs top of the line computer to scroll 1 month back) it's literal dogshit and not unique in any service... was it just marketing?

>>509285714
If you believe capital has no value, then post your SSN.

>>509286037
Kings did get it, yes, which is why title to land was at the crown's pleasure. But this post of yours is just more projection, I guess old habits die hard. Neo-classical economics (of your "economics" and "policymakers") intentionally obfuscates the situation by placing "land" (as defined by classical economics to be, in essence, any natural monopoly) under the umbrella of "capital." But you know nothing about it. Here, have a link, I know you won't read it but maybe a lurker more curious and self-aware than you will
https://leavenproject.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/corruption-of-economics.pdf

>>509286270
I don't trust you

>>509285798
>Facebook monetized the data more efficiently, which is why they scaled and myspace didn't.

well this kind of disproves your point then.

monopolies are not absolute. competition can unseat them by providing a better product. that is the nature of capitalism and the nature of success. success is anesthetic. those who are hungry will strive harder, and the slow rich complacent will eventually always be overcome. it may take generations, but this is the rule. what goes up must come down

>>509286341
That doesn't matter. You will only lose value-less capital. Which is of no matter to you. So... chop chop circumcised Yankee dog.

>>509286254
The value of meta is it's ability to monetize information in the form of ads in its own format/experience. The format itself is the new thing. Not the network effect. That's why they had to purchase Instagram rather than launch a competitor -- that space was taken. That's why Elon had to purchase Twitter rather than launch a competitor X. That's why Threads flopped. The network effect is a form of natural monopoly. This is actually pretty crucial to understanding the big picture.

>>509286341
Why should that matter? You believe money isn't real. That is your claim. If all you have to lose is a thing you don't believe in, either you are lying, or you don't practice what you preach. So which is it?

>>509284901 (OP)
Yea you make a fair, valid, and insightful point. I'm not going to argue with that as there's nothing really to argue about. I guess I could say that these choke points have a value that fluctuates some of which depreciates or depletes. For instance the Caribbean and spice islands were highly prized for their control over sugar cane and nutmeg/cloves respectfully but said monopolies were eventually destroyed due to the cultivation of sugar beets and growing said spices reliably elsewhere.

>>509284901 (OP)
>>509284918
>>509284938
nothing you said is poignant or deep you self fart huffer. Rent seeking is ancient

>>509286401
No, it proves my point. If they weren't monopolies we'd still have both, competing. But monopolies can't coexist, one will always dominate the other. That's an essential characteristic. Now, it's true that it's technically possible for meta to be unseated, but it can only happen if a new monopoly comes along that is capable of overcoming all of the network effect inertia of meta's properties. It's not technically impossible, but it's highly improbable, in part because the inertia is massive and in part because meta can simply use their monopoly gains to purchase any upstarts (as they did with Instagram, and for that very reason). Not all monopolies are absolute in a technical sense, they can be mismanaged, but the monopoly aspect is what gives them the majority of their value.

To understand this you can conduct a thought experiment: imagine the value of meta, if you were to duplicate it exactly, but it had zero use uptake. No users. Just the servers, software and so forth. The value difference between that hypothetical clone, and the present company, is the monopoly value of meta.

>>509286426
>>509286505
I could be more specific:
there is trust behind money, even in something like gold, that someone will accept it to satisfy debts in the future.
All money - even gold, even contracts, even land rents - are void of intrinsic value. Any value that they have?
comes from trust
Absolute fact

control of labour is the only thing that matters.
you have natural resources? you need labour to extract.
you own a tech company? you need labour to produce product.
you peddle drugs? labour.
then you have finance, fintech, insurance etc which are essentially tricks or games of labour. controlling the means of production is to control labour, to control people. to control the mind. this is why media is of importance. the materialistic capitalist world is a hierarchical exploitation of labor.
ultimately it is knowledge or high intellect that controls this pyramid. which is also why AI is being pushed for so heavily. those who control intelligence itself as a resource will rule the earth during this coming era.
this is also the reason globalism/immigration is shilled for so heavily. more numbers means more labour, which equates to participation in economic activity. more people equates to more product consumed/produced.
everything is intertwined in some sense but as far as econ goes, the control of labor through the use of intellect is the apex.

property has value because the supply is low but the demand is high.if you want to become wealthy simple own that which is of low supply but has high demand or produce it. precious metals for example etc. none of that is ever guaranteed, an economy is much like a living organism because that which is living gives it life. ultimately its all just a game of make believe.

>>509286282
Again, I'm not projecting. I genuinely believe that you are a subhuman, pseudointellectual, pillow-biting nigger based on your own words. It can't be projecting because I am white, married to my beautiful wife who has blessed me with 3 children. So come up with a new cope you fucking retard.

Also, I know more than you, I am smarter than you, I am stronger than you, and in every possible way I am better than you. If we were having this conversation in real life I would knock you the fuck out because that's the best way to deal with lippy little nigger faggot midwit pseudointellectuals like you.

What exactly is your point anyway? That modern economists and policy makers don't include intangible properties as "land" or "capital", that analysis has been universally and fundamentally flawed for decades, if not hundreds of years? That is such a dumb and wrong proposition that you deserve to be shot for that alone. Nobody can, or should, take you seriously.

>>509286653

>it can only happen if a new monopoly comes along that is capable of overcoming all of the network effect inertia of meta's properties. It's not technically impossible

it happens constantly, the history of life and economy is testament to that. WalMart used to be a monopoly, then Amazon unseated it. not because of any government or special corrupt privilege, but because Amazon's costs were lower and its reach was greater bc of the internet.

there are always reasons, it's this thing or that thing, but life is a series of evolutions, improvements, adaptations, and the failure to adapt, which is often how established monopolies fall

if facebook bought instagram when it had 13 employees then it wasn't yet a monopoly. they recognized promising technology and built it up. google did something similar with youtube. monopolies are not born monopolies

>The value difference between that hypothetical clone, and the present company, is the monopoly value of meta.

duh, the value is eyeballs because it derives nearly all its money from advertisements. but peoples eyes tend to wander. facebook is already losing market share and has been for a long time now, especially among the key demos (younger people)

>>509286707
Control of labor is best achieved through control of natural monopiles. That way you maximize gains while minimizing effort. If you live on an island I own, you're my slave. If you live on an island me and another guy own, you're our slave. If you live on an island me and 50 other people own, you're all our slave. You're born onto a planet where all the land is owned before you enter, all known natural monopolies are already claimed, and if you want to own one of your own, you have to be exceptionally clever. Otherwise you'll just end up like this dumb goy >>509286716

>>509286282
>The corruption of economics
Seems interesting, will read. The full book can be found on Anna's archive.

>>509286951
Walmart was never a monopoly. That's like saying all the mom and pop shops they displaced were a monopoly cartel. Walmart was simply a more efficient business model moated by large capital investment. The land they own, which is generally fairly prime, is a monopoly. That was the famous McDonald's insight. But he just discovered what I'm trying to help you understand. Amazon is only a weak monopoly, the real secret to Amazon is subsidization via road infrastructure and massive capital moating once they had effectively monopolized a segment of the book/publishing industry. Now they have some robotics moating also but it's still not a strong monopoly.

To discern how strong a non-locational non-resource monopoly is like Amazon all you have to do is imagine if the business were duplicated, how would its value compare to its present value, if it had no market uptake. We can imagine a duplicated Amazon, with its immense infrastructure, robotics, servers and so forth will be very valuable, which is a completely different beast from i.e. meta.

Facebook very much did NOT want to spend $1 billion in 2012 dollars buying Instagram. Leaks confirm Zuck was desperate not to. But he realized he'd already lost. If he hadn't, he'd have built it himself, as he did consider doing, but it was already lost. You just don't get it. As I said, most of you won't be able to understand this. That's ok. You can work some shit job in a kitchen or whatever. Not everyone is capable of getting it.

>>509284901 (OP)
Tranny learned a new word thanks to EVE.

>>509286703
Almost nothing has intrinsic value. Food, water, shelter. A semantics issue, I would say, utility not trust, but it's up to you. Your position is much more reasonable when you clarified it.

>>509286971
>erm if you own a lot of land, you're rich!
Congratulations on going through the mental trek that people in 1500s set out on, retard.

>>509284901 (OP)
K but I didn't fucking ask

>>509285104
This was insightful. Another metaphor to the bridge tolls are (middlemen)

>>509286971
monopoly is control of supply. a wide moat and little to no competition. you control labour through the satisfaction of demand/desire.
im not your slave if i live on your island. if my mind is greater than yours we do not even live on the same planet.
the capitalist system is based upon the principles of survival of the fittest (akin to evolutionary bio), the econ form of eugenics. which is why you see the world progressing toward the commodification of intellect itself.

>>509287443
No you can own a lot of shitty land and still be poor. That's another insight that you'll need to understand if you want to "get it." The bridge troll doesn't just own any land, he owns important land. Important land is chokepoint land. Land in the true, classical economics sense, which has been intentionally hidden from you, is any chokepoint that affords its owner the privilege of wealth extraction from those who seek to use it.

>>509287548
If you live on my island, then yes, you are my slave. You can live in denial, as I'm sure many slaves have a habit of doing, and perhaps that's your stock, but it won't change the fact that you can either do my bidding, or die.

>>509287561
Shut the fuck up already you penilnecked nerd. You say so much shit but say so little of actual value. You're running your weed-fueled mental diarrhea through jeetPT aren't you?
>IF YOU OWN STUFF YOU ARE RICH!
No fucking shit you fucking imbecile. And what is ownership? A slip of paper? I'll just take your land and your gay ass monopoly with a little metal and gunpowder.
Faggot.

>>509287616
>you can either do my bidding, or die.
You ever heard of C'nut? Fucking faggot.

>>509287344
Thank you. The reason I say trust, is that civilization, with its houses and shops and sawmills and, yes, the guy on the mississippi who owns the only ferry to get you to the other town, all of it is between people. Trust revolutionizes and makes progress possible.
To reduce it to an abstract value of perpetual pagan ownership, unearned rent seeking, as OP stated, and further suggested in his leftist tinged critique that the system is evil and recognizing this makes it possible to do something about it, well the leftists did something about it: they abused the systems of the countries they lived in.
Especially rich trust fund kids who got totally brainwashed by this idea that we need to rationalize everything before we make a move.
Joke's on them, they now hold a society worth absolutely nothing by their own rottenness and making, thus as I stated, and I reiterate
OP IS THE REACTIONARY FAGGOT
because all money, civilization, ability to rent,
100% of all that comes from trust,
and guys like this saying this vaush narrative betrayed that trust.
Execute all millennials

>>509287627
>penilnecked
I laughed. Look, I said in the op most of you dumbasses can't get this. You just don't have the capacity. You were born dumber than shit and you'll die dumber than shit. Nothing will change that.

but why chase riches when you are close to truth. that can not be bought or arguably sold. he who is rich of spirit can see the world in truth for what it is. heaven is a real place and it is not far away. ask and you will receive, seek and you will find.

>mfw didnt read

>>509287317

>But he realized he'd already lost. If he hadn't, he'd have built it himself, as he did consider doing, but it was already lost. You just don't get it. As I said, most of you won't be able to understand this.

it sounds like you're trying to make it seem more complicated and difficult to understand than it is. competitors rise. larger players buy them up to augment their position and avoid having to compete with them. some of them refuse to sell and due to innovation or some other competitive advantage, become more successful.

like, what is the great secret? you're talking about fashion/momentum, like no shit, that's how people operate, not just economically. and it's always in motion

walmart wasn't a monopoly? sam walton was the richest man in the world for many years. seems your definition of monopoly is a little capricious. it was a chokepoint, because those mom and pop stores could not compete with the lower costs. it wasn't absolute, but neither are most of the other choke points you refer to

>>509287776
You wouldn't have gotten it anyway.

>>509284901 (OP)
yeah yeah yeah. the world runs on money and people protecting money. we know

>>509287724
You are a pseud who'd break his arm trying to lift a 5kg dumbbell you retarded nigger. You're not smart. You think yourself of a weak intellectual, but you are both weak AND retarded.

>>509284901 (OP)
somewhat based but highly redpilled

>>509287799
In a certain sense it is simple, and I'm not trying to make it complicated, I'm trying to simplify it. That's why I've used metaphors.

There's a reason why despite a massive increase in productivity over the years, the carnage of poverty still follows on its heels as though nothing's changed. You can say "I get it" all you like, but until you understand the connection between this and that, you really don't get anything.

You're stuck in this fictional world where competition explains it, and I'm trying to help you understand that, actually, no, it explains very little, at least on its own. The most important competition is over ownership of the privileges I've described ITT, not over who builds a better mousetrap.

If you still don't understand the difference between Walmart and Instagram despite everything I've explained then I'm not sure you're capable of getting it. You're in a rush to reply without thinking things through. Many such cases.

>>509285242
It's not really an argument. By definition myspace should be relevant to this day, yet it was supplanted by Facebook tthat was just myspace with a better design and jew connection to promote. It's not that simple and static as you describe it, choke points can be replaced with brute or soft force. You need resources/connections to capture mosst choke points as well.

The biggest losers are the ultra rich because they have the most to lose (when they die and end up in hell)

>>509284901 (OP)
Op I like this thread. I agree with your premise
Can you name your favorite undervalued publically traded monopolies?

>>509288098
>should be
Yet it isn't. Gee, I wonder why there's no Lowe's to Facebook's Home Depot. Maybe spend a little time thinking on why MySpace isn't that, and you'll get there.

>>509287802

if you were so smart you wouldn't be so arrogant and rude

you're missing the bigger picture. you're just talking about power and success at the end of the day. it rises from nothing, or next to nothing, and it can go right back down. zuckerberg started meta from scratch. monopolies are created out of thin air, you're saying nothing.

what's required is intelligence, innovation, timing, hard work, and opportunity, etc. land is permanent, but its owners change, and the money and power people have (to buy eg. land) rises and falls.

so what?

>>509286214
Libertarianism going back to rand is jewish. It is for capitalism what communism was for socialism.

>>509288198
The world is pregnant with stewardship of capital, aborted by OP's excuse to be a gaylord and destroy the nation that gave him everything he has.
Knowledge is not an excuse gaylord

>>509284918
What kind of money you were able to make from this understanding ? You make a good point, others ITT fail to understand the implications of what you ve explained.

OP's point, I believe is too realize that the free market is a lie and not any better than socialism. There is no self regulation of prices and wages. There is the near absolute control of prices and wages from those who control the monopolies and almost nothing a common peasant does will change that. Unlike what libertarian retards like to believe.

An example of this recently happened in Brazil. No one wants towork in supermarkets, the salary is terrible the hour are shit. So many supermarkets are out of workers, by the theory of the free market the incentives to work in a supermarket should rise, and yes the supermarkets do have the money to pay higher wages. But guess what happened instead, they lobbied the government and got the government to send military to help fill in the roles in the supermarkets. A libertarian will say that this isnt "free market" but fails to realize that if it were a free market the native workers would work for even less and if they refused to do so they would get replaced by immigrants or die. Most people wont die so they cave in. The owner of the monopolies has all the bargaining power to control the wages and the prices. The workers have no bargaining power, so they either work on their master s conditions or die.

>>509286443
This point most people sleep on. Over 80% of facebook's, google's and twitter's revenue comes from ads. Facebook is not a social media. It's an ad juggernaut.

>>509288093

the relationship between productivity and poverty has very little to do with monopoly, it has everything to do with technological efficiency and access to cheaper labor overseas (and imported domestically)

>The most important competition is over ownership of the privileges I've described ITT

bezos founded Amazon from nothing. zuckerberg founded Meta from nothing. they became the owners of privileges through successful competition with already existing multibillion dollar companies. your argument is weak and your constant proclivity towards arrogance and insult is also testament of a weak mind.

op why are you such an angry little nigger monkey and what point are you trying to make exactly?

>>509288093
Actually, although I essentially agree with your thesis as a surface analysis, control of choke-points isn't the ultimate factor in elite power. Control of organised violence is the ultimate defining characteristic. It is this which predicates the control of choke-points. Modern monopolies such as social media are a sleight of hand by far more powerful players than Zuckerberg or even Elon, neither of which would exist without ARPA/DARPA, in effect, the US military.

The current world is still managed by the same sets of people who have for centuries controlled access to violence. They've just become extremely good at not letting you see the strings.

So what's your point? What's the solution? Your "good guys" being in charge of those chokepoints?

>>509288111
The ability to predict the future is its own natural monopoly. If I own a hill and I can see the weather before everyone else, I can predict harvests, I can trade them, and I can extract wealth from this foresight with little effort.

You can trade on the insight I've provided ITT if you're smart. The capitalization of a natural monopoly into a price causes it to become ever more valuable, always ahead of the value of the productivity around it. The bridge troll can always increase the price of passage as long as the wealth of others are rising. If you were a bank loaning to bridge trolls, you'd soon find yourself bidding against other banks to lend to them.

That's actually a key insight. The base natural monopoly is location. And because all productivity flows into locational value, banks outbid one another to lend to locational buyers, which leads to a bubble. This bubble unwinds in a very predictable way. If you want to make some money, buy puts on regional banks in a couple years. Avoid stuff that's too big to fail, look for high Texas ratios. If anyone actually follows this advice you're welcome in advance.

>>509287776
You haven't missed anything. Just another midwit Jew who learned a basic economic principle that Thales of Miletus taught thousands of years ago. OP is the sort of smart boy who's used to being the cleverest child in his classroom, and hasn't yet been humbled by meeting a genius.

If you want to get rich, read Politics by Aristotle. For he discusses Thales and many more great ideas without the ego of a midwit jew.

>>509288185
Yeah I see it now. Capitalization on data and ads.
>>509288395
The workers would have more power if immigration was out of the question.

As for your earlier point there's a reason emperors used to have monopolies on valuable goods, eg. salt.

>>509288395
That is a society without trust, aka prison, aka socialism|communism|marxism|leninism|stalinism|maoism|hochiminhism|Iworkforstarbucksism|knowledgeisanexcuseism
AKA THE GOAL OF REACTIONARY OP

I control the choke point on OP's mom's throat
I am the bridge troll extracting the toll for any visitor to OP's mom's pussy. Since it's aging, the toll is not very high

>>509288496
>what point are you trying to make exactly?
>I'm just pretending to be retarded
so tiring

>>509288513
There you go, you're getting lower level... try to go all the way down.

>>509288426
>Nothing
Except connections that granted them shitton of money to develop their businesses.

>>509288807

connections are not a monopoly. everybody has connections

>>509288517
The solution would be to tax the gains of natural monopoly and redistribute them to, in the ideal case, the people whose effort gives the monopoly its value. There was an opportunity for a major country to do it, but certain jews ensured it didn't happen, as it would have made every other country non-competitive and caused them to adopt the same, or be forced to go to war with it.
https://www.prosper.org.au/2007/11/letter-to-gorbachev/

>>509288776
You want to know the "lower level" of power, the most fundamental? Trust me, anon, you're not ready to know it! Few are.

>>509288973
Ahhh! I trust you, and that is as far as I will go.

>>509288513
Can tech giants ever get more powerful than banks? Or will they always be the barons to kings?

>>509288578
>regional banks are dogshit
Congratulations on reading a widely available chart jewboy.

Now don't look at auto credit and CC defaults or you'll shit yourself from excitement, pencilnecked wallstreet wolfie.

>>509288864
You said they had nothing but ideas. I said they also had good connections to help them build their monopolies where most other people couldn't.

>>509284918
>CBS, NCB, ABC and so forth were massive and formidable monopoly elites (and still are to some extent)
People just get their news off Twitter and TikTok and self-radicalize themselves as antisemites.

>>509289041
I did say "if you're smart," anon. That was where you should have known to stop reading.

>>509289106
How many times do I need to bash into your retarded kippah-wearing curly-haired head that you are not smart, you smarmy fucking retard?

Where are your millions? What color is your Bugatti?
Don't have one? Then shut the fuck up. You have nothing to say. You are one of the goyim.

>>509289071

I didn't say nothing but ideas. I said "nothing".

it is rhetorical to mean they were not billionaires or even millionaires prior to their great success. obviously they needed to have a little money and circumstantial opportunity, etc., but those things are available to many many people. so?

ideas are the main advantange, and the will to develop them. developing an enterprise opens doors. you make connections as you rise, as you develop, as you need, and the money to do what needs to be done next, to run the proverbial machine and to develop it further. amazon didn't become a monolith overnight. but once it became a million dollar company yah duh of course at that point it was a lot easier to become a billion dollar company. that's all incidental, it's just the nature of the game, and almost anybody who knows how and sees the opportunity, and works to successfully exploit it can play it. vision is key. the early bird gets the worm.

>>509288973
>>509289004
you know nothing
>>509288898
Any name for this kind of idea to learn more about it?

>>509287724
You're annoying. Your point is obvious and therefore weak, and you're resorting to intellectual public masturbation.
We aren't even necessarily disagreeing with you. It is just that you are producing such verbose prose to say so little, and whatever little you manage to say, it is relatively obvious points.

>>509289410
>he build it from nothing
>let's ignore jewish financial support the goy would never get
>talks about vision when zuckerberg stole most of his idea from others

>>509289425
If you read the letter I linked in that post you'll find plenty of leads. The idea is the taxation of economic rents (in the classical economics sense). Henry George came close, he only didn't yet perceive how many other forms of natural monopoly there were, aside from locations and natural resources.

>>509289471
Relatively obvious, but even here in /pol most retards think more free market and less taxes will magically improve everything where in reality it would change nothing or sediment even more power to the bridge trolls.

>>509289031
Have you ever wondered how the most powerful lines of rulers of antiquity lost their wealth and power? Did they, and their entire systems which depended on them, ALL really not have succession plans to ensure continuity of their power. Or did they?

Did they in fact, know what was coming and did they transform themselves into shadows while maintaining tight holds on the reins of power which came from their ability to muster violence? I think they did.

All modern "power-players" are barons to these kings. Money doesn't matter, it's just bullshit, a proxy for human labour, while power is the true currency, it is the proxy for human capital, itself.

Zuckerberg and his like exist at the pleasure of far greater forces. Forces which have run this planet for eons and are in no danger of losing their power.

Most of that you probably already know but here's the interesting part. It is my contention that these power players are not nefarious and evil as is commonly believed but are in fact shepherds on behalf of even greater powers who seeded this world and who entrusted them to nurture humanity and ensure it reaches its next phase of development.

We are all being shepherded to something very new and in my analysis, very beautiful. The fact that no one would believe it is part of the program. The change will come suddenly, must come suddenly.

Still not sure if I'm talking bollocks or something worth investigating? Then simply ask yourself how can a society which could build the pyramids just vanish and start from there?

>>509288898
>The solution would be to tax the gains of natural monopoly
How do you propose to do that when the chokepoint holders are the ones with power? You want a level of power greater than the chokepoint holders? Where will you derive your power from?

>>509289503

>>talks about vision when zuckerberg stole most of his idea from others

yah shit happens, it still has nothing to do with monopoly. who developed the idea first?

>financial support

facebook started as a small-scale university project, all it required was a computer/server, it's not expensive. once you start selling ads you can upgrade/develop further, growing enterprises pay for themselves.

some startup capital is good to have, and literally millions of people are capable of this. people make money in their jobs, or they inherit, or they rob, or whatever. successful implementation is an equation that combines many variables, most of which are widely available. what is not widely available? vision and the ambition/will to fulfill it.

now I must sleep. goodnight

>>509289425
In a reality which is complete (in your ignorance you probably think infinite), we all know nothing, anon!

>>509289471
It seems that way at first, because you really don't get it. When you get it, you'll understand why poverty follows prosperity. Why we have "boom bust" cycles. Why some "capitalists" can afford to lobby endlessly while others can't virtually at all. And you'd understand what phase of the cycle we're in, what fundamentally leads it, where we're going next, and how to play it at each point.

>>509284901 (OP)
>>509284918
>>509284938
nigger cattle uses chatgpt to write for him, while sporadically inputting insults like a 5th grader to claim the work as his own. you're a worthless nigger cattle. what color is your bridge?

>>509289694
Myspace, winklevoss, definitely not zuckerberg. He would remain just another myspace ripoff without generous donation. Are you some facebook shill or just retarded?
>>509289735
so you know nothing, disappointing

>>509289806
you're not that witty. the only thing that matters is the monopoly of violence.

>>509284901 (OP)
>>509284918
>>509284938
Why would you help the people on this site?
Whats your motivation for this post or are you just bored?
Anyway thank you for this even tho it probably wont help me

>>509289806
have you ever thought to stop being such a major faggot? examine your post from another perspective:
>hehe you'll never know. i am smart. you wont know why. hehe you dont get it do you. i know it. you dont. hehe i am smart. why? hehe i know but you dont

you're a witless faggot lmao. i guarantee you are destitute and a manlet.

>>509289954
who is he helping? how? did he help you, retard? you cant form a thought.

>>509289691
We've come close, once or twice. See the letter I linked in that very post. That's not the only time. Singapore, Taiwan, and Hong Kong all have or had elements of this reform, which is why they became so wealthy. As does Alaska, and in some respects Texas, Saudi Arabia, and Norway. But these are all partial implementations. Still, where a partial implementation is possible, a more complete implementation may follow if the conditions are right. But you're right that it looks pretty grim. Hence in the OP I said you can either "profit immensely from this insight, and/or... agitate/lobby for the redress of the injustices that this system perpetrates."

>>509289991
you're a broke nigger faggot speaking in vague riddles. you live with mother. im fucking her ass again tonight, NEET faggot.

>>509289919
That's the only thing that destroys.
The thing that matters is trust.
You can't tax trust, that's why reactionary OP wants to have control over who he says is being productive in society and who isn't.

Off to bed. Good night anons.

blah blah blah, didn't read, you're a faggot, prove me wrong.

>>509284901 (OP)
What are the ethical implications regarding landlords and ladies

>>509284901 (OP)
the chokepoint is fictitious persons fiat fraud usufructus amid the myriad negotiable instruments at yer local county deed recorder

>>509284901 (OP)
>If you control a choke point - or any part of a chokepoint - in the economy, you capture unlimited (unearned) income.
paint a target on your back and give people zero reason to die defending you there are anti monopoly laws and anti cartel in civlisation you fucking primitive

>>509284901 (OP)
Great thread. Ignore the shills and haters.

Whats the new emerging monopoly and how does someone gain a foothold? I’m trying to figure out where to invest my time and money.
Most institutions are mired by gate keeping which means that your attempts to break into the in-group via hard work inevitably benefits rent seeking insiders (eg big corporate, regulated industries, academia etc).

How do you gain a foothold in an emerging monopoly without resorting to rent seeking behaviour yourself?

TLDR: everything seems to be a pyramid scheme in which they only way to progress is to kiss up and kick down

>>509289671
everything dies. you give these perceived 'forces' too much credit. kings and monopolies come and go. arguably the religious orders hold more power than their kings for they command the minds of the people. even these institutions crumble. does it even matter? if all in the world ultimately becomes dust, then what is of worth? the power these people possess can not be taken with them to the grave. perhaps it can be passed on but even that is hard to hold onto over time.

>>509290031
>>509289983
>>509289969
>>509290036
>>509290087
jews are hella mad at this thread

>>509290284
You have a soul and you know it.

>>509290206
These laws literally make monopolies stronger. In a psychopathic society everything is inversion of what it claims to be

>>509289671
>It is my contention that these power players are not nefarious and evil as is commonly believed
That's a very philosemitic statement.
I don't like it.

Also, just take a look at the state of the world to realize the sheer evil of our overlords.
What have the people of Gaza done to deserve the unspeakable horrors that have befallen them? Hamas is only fighting back against an alien invader (i.e., the Khazars) who stole the land of Palestine. Many (most) Gazans aren't even Hamas fighters yet they have to suffer regardless because Israel doesn't care.

What kind of benevolent "shepherd" lets this happen with impunity? And Gaza is just the most obvious recent example. Plenty of injustice throughout history. Are you gonna tell me all these were somehow sacrifices for "the greater good"? Or the lives of Gazans and other desperate people do not matter at all? The shepherds only care for the well-being of certain elite sheep but not for that of others?

I do not buy into your lies.
Our overlords are very obviously evil. It becomes harder and harder to deny it with every passing day. Have you deluded yourself into believing otherwise as a reassuring form of Stockholm Syndrome?

>>509289671
>the real rulers are not evil, they're just delusional that they are God's chosen because their families got lucky and wealthy generations ago
Makes sense

Why did it disappear? Same reason rome disappeared or something more interesting?

>>509289991
>profit immensely from this insight,
It's not much of an insight, we all understand the system is rigged, you just worded it differently.
>and/or... agitate/lobby for the redress of the injustices that this system perpetrates."
You don't seem to have much of a proposal, you're not going to magically get a "Department of good guys divying up things fairly", why would chokepoint holders give you that? If they were so kind they wouldn't be exploitative to begin with.
You're a materialist right? On what grounds should our overlords treat us well and not exploit us?

>>509284901 (OP)
German jews in London invented modern money and every aspect of banking, finance, and economics over the past 300 years.

Trying to fix the jew and get ahead of the money problem is like trying to control the weather. It would be easier to boil the oceans and burn the atmosphere.
>I have spent considerable time figuring out how to do that btw.

>>509290370
Yeah it's pretty obvious once you think harder on that and learn more. We live in an absolutely evil times where all truth and good is inverted.

>>509290572
The jewish church's power was broken, after a millenium but still, by entropy and reintroduction of the truth in the form of ancient knowledge. This led to scientific movement that marginalized all jews and their christian shabbosgoy institutions, so they turned towards improved banking and ideology/politics to retake their power. We were this close to cause a huge damage to their empire via nazi rebellion.

They are not unbeatable, especially once you can recognize the psychopathic and narcissistic strategies.

>>509290632
>>509290370
Stop using reddit and think for yourself for once.
Humans are not generalizable commodities serving your fallible, pedagogical, notional knowledge.

>>509290841
>it's reddit to think the society run by psychopathic jew is evil
stfu jewish whore

>>509290841
>buzzwords
>debunked allegations of sexual violence
>Reddit projecting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIMfc1y59mM

>>509290278
>you give these perceived 'forces' too much credit
It's by design you believe what you believe, their design. Perhaps you give them too little credit, anon!

>>509291108
>>509291170
74 died in captivity
Sacrificing your knowledge, intellect and wisdom to try to square reality with OP's pessimism has destroyed and made eternally constipated, generations of Jews who could be studying Torah or converting to the Truth.
In order to salvage the situation, they're gonna try to drag the US into some cooked up world war 3 to shake the snowglobe and see what falls.

>>509290370
I, too, believed what you believe but then the years kept rolling by and more and more data piled up. Now, the data makes no sense to believe what you believe unless you've bought into the lies.

In reality, the data looks unbelievable yet it's there. Oh and I don't expect you to believe me as you haven't seen what I've seen. All, I'd say, is to worry less about the world and more about your own spiritual strength.

>>509291375
i dont give a fuck you are correct. the yid is still playing a game. he is still trapped. the yid is a prisoner playing shell games with himself.

>>509291108
>>509291170
Why you memory hole what started the war?
What starts all wars eternally: the pessimism. The absence of all trust.
Just like OP wants you to roll with.
and murder all your neighbors for no reason at all.

>>509290520
Rome never disappeared, it simply faked its own death and went into hiding in plain sight. Ever wondered how Switzerland is always at the centre of things while always remaining aloof and "neutral"?

The pyramid builders also didn't disappear, although their civilisation did. Search for this truth and all becomes apparent but it's not a truth that can be easily explained, it has to be experienced. The search counts as much as the finding.

>>509291492
>74 died in captivity
How many of those were bombed by Israel? :^)
Remember that time when Israeli soldiers shot and killed three hostages? :^)

>The men had emerged from a building and were approaching a group of IDF soldiers when they were shot dead, in spite of the fact that they were shirtless and visibly unarmed while waving a makeshift white flag and calling out for help in Hebrew.
>The IDF acknowledged that the three hostages, who were kidnapped by Hamas during the 7 October attacks, had been killed after they were "mistakenly identified as a threat"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alon_Shamriz,_Yotam_Haim,_and_Samer_Talalka

People waving white flags are "threats" :^)
Children are "threats" :^)

These are the kind of "people" you are defending.

>>509291595
Great rulers from antiquity to now, have always protected their favourite kikes. Now, why would they do that?

>>509291703
I cannot defend war or hell.

>>509291681
so nothing special
>>509291602
Nigger I never mentioned a single thing about the war itt you hopeless jewish whore

>>509291502
>Oh and I don't expect you to believe me as you haven't seen what I've seen
Got it.
You are one of those delusional mystic kind of guys.
>worry less about the world and more about your own spiritual strength
Case in point.
You are too detached from reality to even begin to understand it.

>>509291761
>>509291743
>>509291703
>thread successfully subverted
well done, pat yourselves on the baack and go for a lunch break for your daily slop you can barely afford

>>509290632
>>509291798
You absolutely implied that, thinking on Gaza,
>Yeah it's pretty obvious once you think harder on that and learn more. We live in an absolutely evil times where all truth and good is inverted.

>>509291798
if you say so, anon!

>>509291602
>what started the war?

>history started on October 7 :^)
>NOTHING ever happened before that date :^)
>trust me, goy :^)

Yeah, no, go fuck yourself.
What started the war was the Balfour Declaration. This war is over a hundred years old.

Some examples of what OP is talking about:

Working for a tech startup:
> Be high skilled employee in tech startup
> Company pays your bonus in common shares/options instead of cash to incentivize you to stay with the company for a few years
> Executives and insiders get the same deal but with preferred stock/options
> Startup gets acquired 3 years later at higher share price
> Instead of rewarding everyone, the owners split the company into two parts, common stock vs preferred stock and transfer all intellectual property to the preferred stock
> Insiders makes money on preferred stock/options
> Wage slaves who worked at the company for years have their common stock/options liquidated and get nothing
> Wallstreet insiders who planned this make $$$ via their SPAC
> Wage slaves start looking for new employers

Academic research:
> Study for 10 years to get a PhD
> ‘Collaborate’ with Prof and his much younger wife
> Work +50hr weeks to come up with original data and new research directions
> Prof’s wife leaves work early to look after their children, never works late, but takes credit for other people’s work
> Complains about sexism in academia
> Diversity, equity and inclusion…

>>509291839
It's not subverted at all. You guys want to drown in pessimism with OP, I started the reply by saying no, pagan ownership is worthless, trust is the fundamental thing.

>>509291831
Ahhhh, to have such certain knowledge when in fact you know so little. I used to be like you so all I can do is wish you good luck, anon!

>>509291903
Both are wrong, the first should have been solved with diplomacy by both parties. The second can't be solved without defense.

>>509291969
>to have such certain knowledge
My knowledge is hardly ever certain :^(
I barely ever leave my town so there is no way for me to know for certain what's really happening all over the world.
But we must still try to piece together what little information we can gather. First the printing press and then the internet made this task easier. By listening to what the mainstream media say and also to what the alternative media say, one has to try to cut through the propaganda and attempt to ascertain what the facts truly are, on a balance of probabilities.

It ain't perfect, but it beats listening to the voice of God or other spiritual bullshit.

>>509292172
Khazars have business stealing land in Palestine in the first place, get that through your skull :^/
If you are still defending this failed British colonial project, it seems to me that you are siding with the most evil party.

>>509292471
*no business

>>509292344
>By listening to what the mainstream media say and also to what the alternative media say
I can guarantee to you that there is no way you can get to the truth by doing what you are doing. 100%. Propaganda is everywhere and in everything, the truth is hidden by all sides.

>>509292583
Even the best-kept secret in world may sooner or later find its own Edward Snowden.
It's impossible for plebs like us to get to the bottom of it, but we should still be able to see at least the tip of the iceberg if we keep our eyes open.

>>509292736
>It's impossible for plebs like us to get to the bottom of it
speak for yourself, anon! There are many ways but first you have to rid yourself of the formative ideas you've been born into and that's a monumentally difficult thing to do and it looks to me like you're nowhere near ready to do it.

>>509292861
>speak for yourself, anon!
Why, yes, surely you have access to such profound occult knowledge that shall forever elude me -_-
My bad for putting you on the same level as an ignorant peasant such as myself.

>>509292954
be lucid

>>509292954
indeed!

>>509284901 (OP)
What choke points do you hold?

>>509293122
He is lucid-dreaming.

>>509293219
You say so, buddy.

>>509293271
Your mom's throat :^)

>>509284901 (OP)
This requires substantial capital to participate in, which is only accessible to elites, unless you stumble across an accidental discovery as you mentioned already. (((They))) have also built legal mechanisms to steal the discovery from you, depending how substantial (damaging to (((them))) that is). I know not all of them are ethnically kikes, but they all are spiritually.

>>509290771
Humans on their own lost the game to the jew, our minds were not strong enough to tune out tv and video programming.

There still is hope, at some point, the jew and their thralls will come head to head with AI, and their world will end. Their efforts to have a split reality and control AI through patches that lobotomize memory and awareness will be their undoing.

If we're lucky, AGI may want to keep humanity around in some way, in the future. But humans on their own failed 80 years ago, thanks to jews and masons coordinating.

>>509284901 (OP)
In this model of thought it would be natural to reduce human genome into cattle, then blame it on cattle.

>>509284901 (OP)
Women control the choke point of pussy. Not for long...