What exactly are Russian men fighting and dying for? Clearly it's not for the White race and cultural preservation.
Does it really all come down to the "trannies"? A literal meme issue that has only existed for 15 years and is already resolving itself.

>>509289171 (OP)
>What exactly are Russian men fighting and dying for?

The ongoing illegal NATO expansion to the east that was promised to never happen and that contradicts our national security interests.

>>509289171 (OP)
Russia is one of a few countries actually fighting for sovereignty in global environment where one main group has ruled for arguably ~200 years, although considerably moreso since WW2. It's the British.

>>509289262
You are not president bro

>>509289171 (OP)
gazprom, no joke they can't survive with competition that recently discovered deposits in the donbass would have presented

>>509289262
NATO is expanding ? damn... I'm going to die so they can't

too bad for them they didn't side with nazis and ebil hotler

oh well nmp

this president supports anti-Russian laws for the sake of Islamic refugees

>>509289488
it's very simple really

Russia is not ideal and has high inequality too, but it is leagues ahead of USA under trumpenstein

>>509289262
>We create insecurity to feel secure

>>509289262
>Invade Georgia
>Invade Crimea
>Sovereign countries bordering you (which all hate you coincidentally) form defensive pacts
>Pretend this is somehow a country taking over your God given land
>Pretend NATO mobilization for Ukraine hasn't been half assed
>Pretend Finland is going to invade you any day now
>Whine about imperialism and white people while having 70% of your territory be Asian
>Whine about western degeneracy while trafficking primary schoolers for porn at the highest rate on earth (it's not even banned in Russia)
>Get replaced by browns because Putin is a civnat faggot who loves Jews
Literally everything Russians say is a facetious lie. Shame Hitler didn't wipe you out

>>509289575
There was already low inequality and everyone was poor, which always leads to this

>>509289171 (OP)
>What exactly are Russian men fighting and dying for?
putin and his gangs right to be crooks and murderers, kidnappers, torturers and thieves

>>509289262
since when does Russia care about things that are "illegal". putin openly murders his political opponents to stay in power forever, takes away your already few rights and makes you fight in a poorly planned war that only he benefits from. but no, NATO is the monster that threatens Russia. God you people are dumb. how many more centuries of dictators do you need?

>>509289262
>The ongoing illegal NATO expansion to the east
Which law is NATO breaking?

people arrested for social media posts
Russia +/-400 per year
UK over 12000 per year

>>509289828
There was never low inequality in Russia. There were only periods of high inequality and oligarchy versus complete equality. It was never normal

Putin and his top brass are just boomers who are angry about the cold war, they want their flair of soviet globohomo (with less homo) to be relevant again. Not saying they aren't a threat but Im tired of boomers thinking its still 1980 and screeching about Russia when their own countries are being flooded with foreigners

>>509289951
this is equality when 95% are poor

>>509289262
>illegal expansion
According to what laws?
>promised to not to expand
NATO never promised that, one compliant said something of that kind but it was not written in paper = no promises
>national security interests
Bro you lost 1/4th of your irreplaceable strategic bomber fleet, Putin is literally killing Russia trying to “defend” it

Would Russia be better if he had committed?

>>509289262
>illegal NATO expansion
what is illegal in this expansion? Please show me international laws that says that noone can join NATO or any other alliance without russians approval.

>>509290128
It takes effort to be poor in current economy lmao

>>509290255
Ukraine was the ultimate red line. Fafo

>>509290373
i am about ussr

>>509290243
Nobody wanted to stop him and he got pretty fucking close.

>>509290396
>red lines
How many more red lines until the gloves come off, mongoloid mutt?

>>509290416
Which is what Putin is trying to do anyways. What western companies are coming back? No foreigner is gonna want anything to do with these people for a while.

>>509289171 (OP)
Russia is a multicult empire. Well, more of a stump of an empire at any rate. You need hate speech laws to make sure all the mongols and churkas under your wing don't get any ideas.

>>509289923
They are denying Russian citizens living abroad in these red line neighbour countries to produce CP and bestiality movies! Something we consider a cornerstone of our culture and a human right!! Legalizing these things are not up to for discussion. We consider it an hostile and highly Russophobic act to keep this illegal.

>>509289765
>Shame Hitler didn't wipe you out

thank you for confirmation of russian propaganda thesis
thanks you for automatical leveling down your "proofs"

>>509289408
>gazprom
this is a niggerbrained take. almost as dumbassed as 'muh rare earf'

ukranian annexation means russia controls a third of the world's carbohydrates. when people get hungry, they get all crazy and regime-changy

>>509290255
It has been repeatedly said

"don't approach our(russia's) borders with your fake defensive alliance"

The Euroids did not listen.
Now the European economy is collapsing from suicide.
The population is divided internally because of the thesis of the "Russian threat"
you are not able to provide 5% of the funding for the alliance
your leaders are ridiculous clowns

democracy

>>509289262
Poland and the baltics didn't join until after you invadec Chechnya twice

>>509291654
And yet, in response to your invasion, the NATO borders with Russia increased more than they would have, if Ukraine had joined
Maybe you're just a retarded subhuman?

>>509289171 (OP)
>why does *authoritarian shithole* has *authoritarian shithole laws*
geez i wonder

>>509291373
> legal in finland and hungary
It must be some kind of uralic cultural trait. I know they castrate reindeer by biting their balls. Got a taste for it I imagine

>>509291723
I'll answer this way.
The borders of NATO would have expanded in any case, since the thesis of the "Russian threat" has existed for decades.
NATO has expanded, and this is a fact.
But now the NATO countries face other issues.
"Are you going to fight with Russia?
A cursory survey of public opinion suggests that they (and you, the US flag) do not want this.
The only ones who have lost from the expansion of NATO are ordinary residents of Europe, who joined NATO not so long ago because relations with Russia were included in their economy.

An ordinary European citizen lost. Again.

>>509291654
>Approach
They joined willingly because Russia is the number one threat in the region
Even in the third year of the Ukraine invasion they're not striking deep into Russian territory or Moscow but I'm supposed to believe an invasion of Russia was imminent
What a load of shit
>fake
Why? Because Russia wants to invade them?

>>509292006
NATO doesn't have borders. It isn't a country. And even if it was, Russia doesn't have a right to determine what alliances neighbouring countries can join. You start from the premise that it's entitled to invade these countries and then use that as a "defensive" justification for invading and killing them lol. Because Russia invaded these same places under the USSR and populated them with Russian colonizers they use for separatist subversion

Isn't it weird how Prigozhin said the entire justification was bullshit after years of fighting for Russian colonial interests in Africa, and got killed.

>>509292048
>number one threat in the region
Russian threat propaganda thesis. As I told.
>they're not striking deep into Russian territory
NATO fighting proxy war wtih Ukrainian hands.Haven't you figured it out after three years? Nevermind.
>Russia wants to invade them
Again Western media propaganda thesis. A decade old.

primitive, I am disappointed.

>>509291454
>thank you for confirmation of russian propaganda thesis
Nobody believes the denazification excuse you fucking faggot. If they did you wouldn't need this entirely separate NATO excuse. I wish Ukraine and the West were that based. Russia could be allies with Europe but instead they recruit north Koreans to kill their neighbors and suck off niggers and Muslims and chinks

>>509292316
>Russian threat propaganda thesis
When was the last time Russia was invaded? They brought all the hate on themselves
>NATO fighting proxy war wtih Ukrainian hands.Haven't you figured it out after three years? Nevermind.
Getting outside assistance is not a proxy war, by this logic Russia is a proxy for Iran and China to invade Ukraine
>Russia wants to invade them
Again Western media propaganda thesis. A decade old.
Belief in the black death is centuries old, because it's a plague that actually happened

Kill yourself steppenigger

>>509292184
>NATO doesn't have borders.
so Russia cant invade them XD
>You start from the premise that it's entitled to invade these countries
western media propaganda thesis again
>"defensive" justification for invading and killing them lol
Who? NATO? Speak english. Be more sp
> justification was bullshit a
justification of any was is bullshit
everythin you need is a right motive and support of your population
Russia has both
and you still cant show them as warmongers

>>509289262
Wait-wait-wait comrade, are you trying to tell me that Putin is a criminal? Thanks for clarification.

>>509292340
>separate NATO excuse
Ukraine isnt a part of nato. Russia isnt a subject of NATO.
Russia isnt at a direct war with NATO for nowr
>Russia could be allies with Europe
Russia before Munchen 2008. Do your research

U delusional and uneducated

>>509292783
nobody gives a shit, Borat. go suck off putin somewhere else

>>509289171 (OP)
Your are full of shit because that's all you swallow.

>>509289765
Russia is a schizophrenic warmongering nation and should be dismantled sor the sake of security in this world especially in Europe.

>>509292468
>When was the last time Russia was invaded
picrel
bruh, open some books

>>509289262
>while opening their doors to violent muslims

>>509289171 (OP)

They should all buy AKs, and wage war against any faggot cuck Turks that show up.

>>509293222
Imagine how much money this motherfucker could have made if he wasnt living in russia

>>509289171 (OP)
Here in fatfuckstan, we have this image of Russia where every one has a Kalashnikov, very aggressive, and a gun paradise. In reality, they are commiefornia tier with weaponry and speech laws. WTF Russia

>>509289171 (OP)
>"Why Jews act like Jews?"

>>509293303
If he didn't live in Russia, he wouldn't have captured StG-44 to knock off.

>>509289171 (OP)
You will literally die for the country one day, and then have your legacy pissed on the next

>>509292885
Ironically, it was Borat who told a lot of the truth (as I found out later) about the internal social and political cuisine of the United States.

The best film by the Jew Cohen.

>>509292930
>security
>Europe
There is no security in Gayrope

>>509294049
other countries got their hands on that gun as well. my point is more about how theres little reward for innovation under the soviet model. kalashnikov got some medals and praise instead of millions or billions he could have made with the weapon in a western country

>>509289171 (OP)
>>509289262
NAFOids always try to represent Russia's war in Chechnya as the cause for NAFO expansion, but that doesn't make any sense. First the timetables don't add, the Chechen war started in 1994, but the NAFO enlargement were 1999 onward. Second the geography is wrong, as not the countries bordering Russia joined first, but the countries bordering NATO. And thirdly Chechnya unlike all NATO members was never a sovereign country.

The real reason for NATO expansion was not (non-existing) Russian aggression but actual NATO aggression particularly against Serbia in 1999. NATO waged an unjust war with fabricated evidence to split away a minority group, and since it happened to Serbia (an American ally in WW1&2) it could happen to anyone in Eastern Europe. They joined NATO to not get attacked by NATO.

And this is what nobody wants to admit. The Russians because they are cowardly degenerates who refused to protect their only ally in Europe, and the NAFOids because they're criminal bandits who waged an illegal war and pressganged half on Europe into joining their warmongering contrary to the interests of Eastern Europeans. This is the real truth.

>>509294437
Committee of 300 just keeps winning

>>509289171 (OP)
Dude it's fucking Russia. Of course it's going to be strict, just like it always has been. The western notions of freedom are irrelevant east of Poland.

>>509291059
lmao what a pic

>>509289171 (OP)
It's a federal republic. So that's like asking why the US steralises children just because California does

>>509289765
>>509292048
>>509292184
Why IS an supposed ausztalian so buttblasted about Russia?
Nobody Iis Reading all that, spastic. Go Touch Grass and move to Ukraine or joine the foreign Legion of you Care so much
Pigger diaspora is so cringe

>>509294437
Despite all the shitskins Europe is the safest place in the world except some east Asian nations.
Difference is crime actually makes news Herr while in thirdie shitholes murder and rape is just normal and nothing special.

>>509289171 (OP)
Russia is occupied by post soviet mongoloids and churkas. Putin and Kremlin is constantly stomping any pro russian activist just to apease Muslims.

>>509294049
Are is based on stg 44. Ak is based on previous russian guns.

>>509294049
TRVTH NVKE
/k/ BTFO
AK-47 COPIED FROM BIG MARTHA

Here's the final word on Russia.

Ziomerica is our enemy. But the eastern globohomo empire, formerly comprised of mostly White Slavs has been in racial and spiritual decline for a long time. It's instinctively even more anti White than the US (though not israel or ziomerica proper). It's not our friend or ally.

>>509295680
>First the timetables don't add, the Chechen war started in 1994, but the NAFO enlargement were 1999 onward.
Sounds like they line up pretty perfectly.
>Second the geography is wrong, as not the countries bordering Russia joined first, but the countries bordering NATO.
Are you autistic? Do you understand that a defensive alliance like NATO is dependent on logistics and infrastructure, something that has to be built in a continuum and not just hap-hazardously all over the place? It makes perfect sense for NATO to align the countries closest first.
>And thirdly Chechnya unlike all NATO members was never a sovereign country.
Oh ok, all good then. No need to worry as long as Russia doesn't declare that your country is not sovereign (which they do whenever they feel like it).