How can anyone believe that a redistribution of wealth isn't the answer to all societal problems?

Any way you slice it, allowing a (((fraction))) of the population to control the majority of wealth is a net negative for humanity.

"B..but you can't just take money from billionaires and use it to end world hunger" - Why not? Take some of the millions and billions generated by mega corporations like Alphabet, Meta and friends every day and just start sending planes into countries dropping off rice, fresh water, beans etc into starving countries. That will be a great first start

Take some more and start sending agricultural experts into these countries to establish farms and educating the locals on farming and husbandry, keep assisting them until they are able to operate the farms themselves and eventually they can export their excess back into the global market.

Can any white, non Jewish, biological male explain to me why this wouldn't work?

>>509298016 (OP)
I don't need handouts. I'm a conman.

Because billionaires don't really have all those billions. That's just a valuation of the companies they have a stake in subject to change at the market's whim. So for a start you're not really redistributing money, you're redistributing a stake in a company. How is redistributing a stake in a car company, software company or oil company going to increase the world's food production and create the supply chains to send it directly to poor people worldwide?
>just make them sell it
Sell it to who, aliens? Who the fuck is going to want to buy stock when the government is seizing it?
>just teach them to farm bro
Western countries already spend hundreds of billions every single year on foreign aid. Do you think it's failed to bring third world countries to the same level of economic development as the first world because it just needs a few more billions?

>>509298016 (OP)
They believe it because they are monstrously evil vermin that should be exterminated so humanity can be freed from their swarm of greed and degeneracy.
Every single person supporting this anti-human system is commiting high treason against our species.

The "people" propping up capitalism are not people. Arguing with with them is like arguing with a swarm of ants. They're just gunna keep taking from you until you grow a spine and start stomping.

Now shut the fuck up and get back to work if you aren't going to act. Coward.

>>509298016 (OP)
Quite a few problems with this my nigger

Once the state gets their hands on the money, there it will stay. At most it may filter down into cronies. You may get small hand outs as a cover.

You would need to stop those companies moving to other territories where you can't tax them, also they are much smarter than government and will bribe their officials.

No body is starving, dropping off fresh rice and beans won't do anything unless there is a war on, in which case, food drops aren't the issue

Also, there is no such thing as an agriculture expert, there is no classroom educator that can teach the locals on how to be farmers.

Farming is bespoke to the location and it can't be centrally planned at all. People who have the experience of a life time will always perform better. This high permeance is necessary to only reach the level of productivity currently on offer.

>>509298016 (OP)
>"B..but you can't just take money from billionaires and use it to end world hunger" - Why not? Take some of the millions and billions generated by mega corporations like Alphabet, Meta and friends every day and just start sending planes into countries dropping off rice, fresh water, beans etc into starving countries. That will be a great first start
>Take some more and start sending agricultural experts into these countries to establish farms and educating the locals on farming and husbandry, keep assisting them until they are able to operate the farms themselves and eventually they can export their excess back into the global market.


We tried that shit in Apefrica and it got no better. Only result was more mouths to feed and more niggers. Waste of resources.

Also, not my problem. I don't care about ending world hunger.

>>509298016 (OP)
because you don't deserve it, peon.

>>509298016 (OP)
Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger.

>>509298016 (OP)
How do you pay for redistribution?
>Taxes of course
Which the poor will pay out of what?
>the redistributed wealth

>>509298016 (OP)
Be honest SA anon, are you in your early twenties? And are you REALLY from SA? Be honest now

>>509298788
Romanian flag tells us this already

>>509298906
This doesn't make sense to me. Value has to come from somewhere. How are CEO salaries, properties, cars etc bought if the company can't turn large amounts of its value into liquid cash whenever it's needed?

>>509299094
My genuine question for people like you is how. What tangible thing can I do today to take action against (((them))) and their ridiculous economic system that has enslaved the world. If I stop going to work I end up on the streets. Give me something realistic I can do and I will do it. Otherwise I'm just as trapped as the rest of us Goyim

>>509298016 (OP)
Your lack of labor is offensive to my labor. Why do you want to steal my labor?

>>509298016 (OP)
>How can anyone believe that a redistribution of wealth isn't the answer to all societal problems?
Probably everyone with an IQ above 60 who has seen that every time this has been attempted it has resolved in millions dead of mass graves as the most corrupt people possible are the ones in charge of redistributing the wealth. Probably anyone with an IQ above 60 who realizes that your attempt to engineer the perfect society by taking one man's property away from him is fundamentally anti-human, insane, and ultimately rooted in marxist resentment and bitter hatred of existence.

All communists deserve death.

>>509300728
Yes I'm 21. Born in and living in SA, luckily in the nicest city in the country. Unfortunately the niggers (kaffers as we affectionately call them) are running it further into the ground every single day.

US homos have no idea how much worse it could be. I'll take American niggers over these retarded kaffers every single day. At least they don't have total control over the government, though plenty of time and resources is spent pandering to them

>>509298016 (OP)
Sociopathic narcissism at every level of society makes the concept of wealth redistribution a completely moot point.

>>509298016 (OP)

>>509301222
Reading these replies and this seems to be the main problem. You can't redistribute wealth if the people that will end up with it are just as corrupt and evil as the people you take it from. As well as the logistical issues which I admit I'm not well educated on

This leaves me with the question of what we are actually supposed to do. If every person, no matter whether they're a tankie, nazi, liberal, whatever is evil and selfish, what can we as "sensible" people really do to take back the reigns of society from those who are driving it towards madness and collapse for their own personal and political enrichment.

>>509298016 (OP)
Because Jews anon
That's why wouldn't work
Until we kill every single one of them from this world
Especially those elites pedokikes
It will never work

>>509300904
>My genuine question for people like you is how. What tangible thing can I do today to take action against (((them))) and their ridiculous economic system that has enslaved the world. If I stop going to work I end up on the streets. Give me something realistic I can do and I will do it. Otherwise I'm just as trapped as the rest of us Goyim
Kill, kill and kill until no Jew is left and their shabbos goyim and their nigger shitskin pets
I can't do it alone because you bunch of nigger cowards won't do shit
Thus you all fucking deserve it

>>509301739
Just go back to plebbit faggot
From the way you type you just fucking belong
Stay there and never come back

>>509298016 (OP)
>How can anyone believe that a redistribution of wealth isn't the answer to all societal problems?
because it always causes more problems than it solves

>>509300904
>This doesn't make sense to me. Value has to come from somewhere. How are CEO salaries, properties, cars etc bought if the company can't turn large amounts of its value into liquid cash whenever it's needed?
We come to the crux of the issue, which is that you're stupid. None of that shit costs billions of dollars. The value is in capital which is more than the amount of raw fiat currency. Equipment, labour, knowledge, skillset, experience is all capital and all has value. A factory may have 100$ in a small safe in the office but it isn't worth 100$. It might be worth 5 million worth of equipment. Add in the workers and it might be worth 10 million. But the boss can't just go spend 10 million on something and taking 10 million for his bank account doesn't do anything. Now we can get into how certain laws fuck the market more than it should, or how fist currency is broken in its current state, but if you can't even comprehend the basics then perhaps you shouldn't have opinions on the subject.

>>509301791
>>509301929

Every time I try to think of any solution that isn't total destruction of the Jewish race, just like the redistribution of wealth idea, I get reminded that it is genuinely the only real solution.

Everywhere I look I see more and more evidence that the Jews and the Jews alone are responsible for the ridiculous path we are on as a society and need to be eradicated.

Sure there is evil in this world and always has been. But it's never been as bad as it is today, not since they came to total power

>>509298016 (OP)
>How can anyone believe that a redistribution of wealth isn't the answer to all societal problems?
First you have to define wealth. Then you have to realize most of what you consider wealth is debt base slavery currency, that’s used to incentivize you to fall into several different traps over the course of your life. Once you figure this out, you realize the governments are corrupt in sovereign nations, really don’t exist the way you think they do and humanity doesn’t really have a purpose of the current time. Right now humanity’s purpose is AGI, before that it was simply to work and retire. So when people like you think the answer is to increase government and to take everything and distribute, you don’t realize that the government is taking your shit in the first place. It’s because you’re young naïve child.

>>509298016 (OP)
Does it even work on a micro level in Africa how many billions have been wasted on trying this already?
Why the fuck do you think it would work on a macro level for the world as a whole?

>>509301040
Kudos for being honest, calling them kaffers makes me believe you live there as well. As for an answer about wealth distribution for the sake of doing good with it, there are more arguments against than I can count and it's impossible to go into all of them. It seems it would suffice if there were some that at least give you pause. I can think of three that are the most prominent, though they are by no means exhaustive

1
First, central planning of an economy is not only very difficult but almost impossible. We don't know what the "invisible hand" exactly does and we can try to guide it with laws, but we know for sure it does a lot. The interactions and infrastructure of any economy is so unbelievably complicated that running it through a central organ is impossible. Now you might say, well not EVERYTHING... and sure, but

2
Remember that wealth distribution is fundamentally stealing, which is evil. Maybe the wealth was ill-begotten according to you or whatever, but you are still in the business of stealing and so you need to be VERY CAREFUL at applying this. The absolutely overwhelming appeal of greed and "righteous" vengeance are such base human universals that trying to put a leash on this monster is about the most hubristic thing I can think of, but your mileage may vary. Which leads to the final point

3
People will point to the absolutely horrendous track record of communism and their hell on earth as sufficient to do away with the idea altogether. I consider this to be definitely true, but we also know that young impressionable kids keep falling for the same pretty picture. Why NOT use obscene wealth for something good, eh? Surely you can just use it WISELY? And this is what I think is the strongest point against: reality is not your fanfic. You might WANT a wise and just and honest party/ruler to be put in charge of such things, but what if you can not do this in reality? It's not just a truism that people suck in general, it is DANGEROUS.

>>509298016 (OP)
hey retard, they're going to tax the few rich goy you've never heard of to crush the opposition, not the musks or the bezos of the world, they wont go after the adelsons or anything

this fucking idiot really thought for a moment it was a genuinely good thing, as if it wouldn't be weaponized like everything else...

>>509302954
He doesn’t know that humans are basically cattle. He doesn’t realize that the people that control the world and have always controlled the world incentivized humans to colonize the world, and now they’re stripping those incentives away, replacing populations with less capable, more easily malleable groups and enslaving humanity and false human rights and globalization.

>>509302537
I hear what you're saying, the entire reason for me making this post is I know I'm an uneducated nigger that doesn't understand economics, which is why to me it seems as simple as just take from the rich and give to the poor. I don't know what I can really trust and what is Jewish misinformation so the best way I can think of to learn is to come here and say what I think about stuff and have all of you niggers that understand it better than I do tell me how I'm wrong.

>>509298016 (OP)

There is already a redistribution of wealth, isn't the middle class being taxed just so the govt can give aid to poor people? That's redistribution, and if the results we got so far are anything to go by, it just generates more govt dependent people and doesnt solve the problem at all, here in brazil we have bolsa familia for a long while now, didn't solve shit.

>>509298016 (OP)
Pic related is a little wake up call for you. The lower class is lower for a reason.

>>509298016 (OP)
because it is already being redistributed to unproductive parties by the government today
we already have that and the world is a hellscape
I hope you are boiled alive

>>509303005
This is a great answer and exactly what I was looking for. As I said in my other replies I'm trying to understand why it isn't as simple as it may appear. All these factors like human greed, complex economics and everything else mentioned so far are exactly what I'm trying to understand so I can be more informed and adjust my opinions to be accurate to reality instead of my idealized version of reality

>>509298016 (OP)
Anyone who agrees with OP is antisemitic, btw.

>>509298016 (OP)
Because if those big companies fail, your parents will lose their jobs, and so will you.
>implying you have one

>>509303582
The problem of politics is as old as time and we have never solved it, probably will never solve it. Whence justice? Who the fuck knows. But we know some things, and you could probably do worse than to look into alternate (blasphemous) economic theories that will explain why our current financial system is completely evil. You can look into what kind of hell on earth communism brought about, and the ideology that informs and motivates all the socialism and communisms of our age, and you can look into the history of that great fiend Liberalism and the kind of destruction it has wrought all over history and the world, despite always having nothing but the best intentions and wishes for everyone involved. Part of growing the fuck up is realizing that reality is what it is and your bedroom or armchair theories about morality and justice are just you or some philosopher tugging on your dick. You can still see this philosophy in the penchant of democratic governments to do everything by process. How do you properly run an organization? Well you just get some professionals to do it, surely they can right? Wrong. Wisdom and the ability to rule, and a sense of justice and charity are not checkboxes on form or to be reduced to some flowchart. You can't JUST do well with money or power by simply stating that as a goal. Modern people have forgotten every single thing about government and human nature we ever established and have regressed to idealistic (angry) children that will believe anything.

>>509304026
I do have a job, thanks

Filthy kike

>>509304082
BASED

>>509304066
>Modern people have forgotten every single thing about government and human nature we ever established and have regressed to idealistic (angry) children that will believe anything.

And I hope we all know who we have to thank for that

>>509298016 (OP)
>- Why not?
Because taxes don't work. They incentivize negation and avoidance. That continues until the cost of counter negation is more then what the tax would bring in.
>but im not talking taxes im talking redistribution
Same thing. Whether it's income taxes, wealth taxes, 'you have more money than me taxes' all the same. Its the same human action and counter action
>but no one's collecting the taxes
You really expect people to just hand their cash over. You just made the negation of the tax really easy.
>Okay we get tax collectors
Okay and they get armed guards, gotta step it up Johnny.
>Send agricultural aid
So now you're not just taking money from citizens but you're sending it to shit holes because 'muh redistribution' .
>They need education
No, its literally the age of the internet. How to farm successfully is so basic bitch dumb that it's community college. Read a book, there's literally hundreds of them out there. And you can find them for free. Regions that don't farm are either not suited for it or the people aren't suited for it
>which is to say inbred 85IQ trash
So it doesn't work because you don't understand human nature. Congrats.

>>509298016 (OP)
How about we start (and end it) with taking your computer and giving it to some hobo in Mongolia. I have decided he needs it more.

>>509298016 (OP)
>Can any white, non Jewish, biological male explain to me why this wouldn't work?

if wealth redistribution happened on a planetary scale, even eastern europeans would find themselves becoming poorer as minimum wage workers get to discover that they are far richer compared to the average thirdworlder

not interested in global equality? just want wealth redistribution within a limited area suited for your benefit?
in america, if you appropriated the wealth of all billionaires you would be left with enough money to cover 3-4 years worth of interest payments
what miracles are you going to achieve with all that money that 30 trillion dollars worth of deficit spending couldn't achieve?

"tax the rich" or "seize the wealth of billionaires" are worthless slogans meant to sell to you the idea of a utopia that is just on the horizon
>i could be earning 5x times what i earn now, but i don't because of the rich
>i could be paying less rent or have a free house, but i don't because of the rich
>i could have free insurance or no college debt, but i don't because of the rich
the reality is that the rich do not have enough wealth to cover these promises and that the greatest billionaire/oligarch of them all is your own government
prices keep rising and your buying power keeps getting diluted because of its inflationary policy (inflation is a tax) and your life is actively worse because of its mismanagement

the goalpost is always moved and thus the utopia is never within your reach because these are ultimately populist political campaigns
back in the day "millionaire" used to mean something, now it's the billionaires and soon it will be the trillionaires

>>509298016 (OP)
>theft is the solution to everything!
No
>to establish farms and educating the locals on farming and husbandry
You don't understand how these niggers work. Give a nigger a bag of fertilizer so he'll have a bigger harvest next year then when the crop comes in his father and brothers and uncles and cousins will all come around for their cuts and he'll end with less than before the fertilizer.

How can anyone believe that a redistribution of pussy isn't the answer to all societal problems?

Any way you slice it, allowing a (((fraction))) of the population to control the majority of pussy is a net negative for humanity.

"B..but you can't just take pussy from nice chicks and use it to end world pussy hunger" - Why not? Take some of the millions and billions pussies from women every day and just start sending planes into countries dropping off pussy and tits into starving countries. That will be a great first start

Take some more and start sending pussy experts into these countries to establish pussy farms and educating the locals on farming and husbandry, keep assisting them until they are able to operate the pussy themselves and eventually they can export their excess pussy back into the global market.

Can any white, non Jewish, biological male explain to me why this wouldn't work?

>>509298016 (OP)
Wealth inequality is totally meaningless when the source of the wealth is just fake nonsense.

the only answer is to rob the wealthy, obviously.
when i was but a small child, i went to a birthday party. the pinata broke and the candy fell out. everyone rushed in to grab candy, but there was a child who threw his body on the pile of candy and started shoving it into his pockets and trying to prevent anyone else from getting the candy. The other children grabbed the candy out of the greedy child's pockets and pushed him off the candy pile and started taking HIS candy. can you believe it? they were robbing this child of all his candy! but that's the solution to the wealth inequality. we just have to rob the rich and get away with it

>>509304456
Problem is it does work. Here in America most of the good states have high taxes. New Hampshire and Oregon are exceptions because they are low tax but still good. Generally low tax states suck though. The high tax states usually have so much money they keep the infrastructure updated and even subsidize the low tax states.