America unironically has the best healthcare system in the world. Just don't be a retard who doesn't have health insurance and you'll never have to pay more than a few bucks to see a doctor.

lmao op out here simping for health insurance

>>509396249 (OP)
We also have the best actual treatment as we lead in medical technology by a wide margin. When one views people and treatments as interchangeable economic consumer units, these distinctions get lost. Viewing people as cookie cutter numbers on paper is the prerogative of socialists.

>>509396249 (OP)
most most health insurance plans suck ass

>>509396317
See here for the kind of “intellect” you can expect out of the brown communist crowd. Internet memes and buzzwords they associate with the word “bad.”

>>509396249 (OP)
what did you get for 500 bux?

>>509396249 (OP)
As a Canadian I can confirm this. Our "free" health care (which is part of my 40% tax rate) is 3rd word tier, doctors are all Indian or nigs and the system is overrun by jeets.

>>509396399
Then don't get one

Don't your insurance companies have some kind of "system" where you have to visit certain doctors and/or clinics otherwise it's not covered. (We have that system with most car insurances and car repair shops)

>>509396581
"In network" vs "out of network", depends usually just reduced coverage

>>509396249 (OP)
i was just watching Jim Norton on Joe Rogan.
Yimmy mentioned that he gets a full-body MRI scan every year as a preventative measure.
imagine trying to get that done under a universal healthcare system.
you would be denied and have to pay an entire year's salary.
our way of doing things is just...better.
sorry not sorry.

>>509396513
A knee x-ray and appointment with an orthopedic doctor, all with a same day walk-in appointment. An MRI is also only going to cost me $50. If we had socialized medicine, I'd be waiting months for each of these things.

>>509396683
exactly, that's what I meant.

>>509396581
Yeah there is basically a list of doctors that are on the plan. Generally in my experience it is not really a problem I've never paid much attention to it and I've never had a doctor tell me they wouldnt accept my insurance.

Then again I don't believe in doctors for most things and the last time I went to one was about 8 years ago. I will say you get appointments quick here. 8 years ago I had to go to an ENT and I thought it would take them a few weeks to get an appointment but it was like two days later. The only thing I've heard of people having long waits on is dermatologists for some reason.

Everyone already knows this, but it's a meme to say US healthcare sucks or is unaffordable. My entry level office job provides a plan for $50/month/person and I'm in commiefornia. Obese, sedentary people get what they deserve which is high medical bills though.

>>509396731
you can always pay things out of your own pocket if you want, in the German system at least.

>>509397390
>pay out the ass in taxes
>pay out of pocket when you need stuff anyway
Yikes

>>509396762
>If we had socialized medicine, I'd be waiting months for each of these things.
No you wouldn't, this is what I'm talking about when I say the average person here just has no life experience. I had to get an MRI when I was unemployed and on medicaid; I waited 5 days for it. You are being scammed by kikes and bragging about it.

>>509397763
yes you would

>>509397763
>No you wouldn't
He's talking about euro style, stupid. That is the reality over there.

>>509397554
yeah that sucks.
but don't insurance kike companies often try to jew you out of covering something?
it can't be fun to replace waiting times with legal battles lol
i know they're all snakes.

desu both system could work if you remove all niggers and wellfare queens from equation.

>>509397554
our healthcare system isn't tax-based.
There is a two tier system: Normal health insurance: you are forced to have a health insurance provider, but in turn those can't ever deny you as a client. Those rates are also based on your income.
Otherwise you can opt out of this system and join a completely for-profit-style health insurance company, which CAN deny you. There are specialist who only take those "private patients", as they are called here. Those private insurance rates are way higher on average obivously.

In both circumstances you can just decide to get the bill yourself and pay yourself, it's just very unusual to do that and you would have to ask for it, but it is possible almost everywhere. I don't know anyone who ever did that, but it's possible: For example if you want said full-body scan but your doctor or your insurance company doesn't see a reason for it.

In your scenario Jim Norton is only in an advantageous position if he doesn't have any health insurance at all, which isn't an option here, but otherwise there is no real difference.

>>509396249 (OP)
A lot of those losing their insurance live with their parents. They won't vote for Republicans who voted to cut their kids health care either

>>509397977
As I said earlier I rarely deal with doctors (it's been many years). But the times I have used my insurance I never had a problem getting covered.

>>509397977
>but don't insurance kike companies often try to jew you out of covering something?
It's not all that common except with the worst insurance providers

>>509398144
>: you are forced to have a health insurance provider, but in turn those can't ever deny you as a client. Those rates are also based on your income.
That's a tax mate

>>509396559
Yeah if you can even find one. Wife's friend has to get her prescriptions from a fucking nurse.

>>509399154
it's similar, not the same: Those insurance companies aren't part of the government.
We do it with car insurance as well, you have to have car insurance to own a car, but your car insurance company isn't part of the government either

>>509396249 (OP)
or you could just not pay it