It's amazing to me how high and consistent these numbers stayed until Trump came along and made half the country go "Actually, FUCK America"

>Reality TV clown/ Epstein client who spends his days tweeting like a teenage girl gains power, becomes the face of American politics for a decade, has millions of supporters who do nothing but screech about him all day
>People find this embarrassing and feel less pride for their nation
How could this happen?

>>509403450 (OP)
pride is a sin

>>509404076
>Bush and Obama kill millions of people and steal trillions of dollars and build a global surveillance state
>"This is fine I guess"
>the numbers bear it out, it was literally fine

>>509404276
Good thing Trump isn't enlisting a company like Palantir to build a global surveillance state or giving stealth bombers to a country that is committing genocide right now or anything otherwise this post would be really embarrassing.

>>509404521
Okay
Why does that bother people but the PATRIOT Act (and its digital expansion) didn't

> Women are emotional
> Democratic party is overrun with Women
> Democratic sentiment towards being American is very volatile because they are emotional

>>509404276
I think the decline is more indicative of
>Bush was bad, hence the drop during his term
>Obama didn't fix things, which is why national pride never got back up to pre-Bush numbers
>Oh my god we elected the clown from The Apprentice (pride crashes)
>Maybe Biden will make it better (small recovery) but oh my God he can't even form a coherent sentence (stagnates in the lower 60s)
>We re-elected the clown from The Apprentice after he tried to overturn the election. Things are never getting better. Fuck this country.
The massive falloff in the last few years from Democrats is more of a culmination of things getting worse because of Republicans, and things not getting better because of Democrats.

>>509403450 (OP)
The Democrat number doesn't matter because, well, they lost
But the Independent number crashing does matter.

>>509404832
23 years of social media mainstreaming.

>>509403450 (OP)
Oh yes, absolutely it was Drumptf and not the Smith Mundt Act getting signed in 2012

>>509403450 (OP)
The country is being retarded and has been for 20 years, then an absurd amount of Americans cannot separate pride in one's country or pride in one's nation to pride in one's own government/state. I hate all our political parties but Republicans our loyal to our country and the idea of Americans, democrats (except ironically the hard socialist type which are loyal to people) are loyal to the state and have a sort of bureaucratic nationalism

>>509405976
>American propaganda is aimed at making Americans hate America
Durr

What is there to be proud of?

>>509403450 (OP)
Not even Obama managed to drive it up to early 00s level. I guess what happened before 2015 was gay marriage?

>>509406142
He doesn't notice how democrats are the ones watching TV

>>509404832
Because Trump is taking it to new extremes and Trump is bombing Iran. Even o'nigger didn't bomb Iran.

I didn't vote for a war in Iran and i won't be drafted.

>>509406067
>Republicans our loyal to our country and the idea of Americans
That's why they squeal about secession and "national divorce" every time they lose, right?

>>509403450 (OP)
Demonrats are not American

>>509406694
This is a really dumb hill to die on when only one side gets viscerally angry when they see the stars and stripes

>>509403450 (OP)
America is just an economic zone where browns come to extract resources to send back to their home countries at the expense of the people already born there. Who is proud of that?

>>509406792
This.

They are quite literally the party of brown foreigners.

>>509403450 (OP)
Politically motivated slop from the left.

>>509404832
anyone paying attention was bothered by the unconstitutional patriot act, leaks by Snowden, Manning, etc
now notice the nearly constant republican line

>>509406804
Can you link me to a sitting Democrat congressman publicly floating "national divorce"? Because I can show you MTG calling for it.
Can you link me to a Democrat state party incorporating secession into their official platform? Because I can link you to the Texas Republican party platform after Biden won.
Republicans love performative patriotism and wrapping themselves in the stars and stripes. But the second things don't go their way all that patriotism goes right out the window.

>>509408205
>Republicans are NPCs who mindlessly worship America no matter what it does
>>509408231
>Republicans are traitors who hate America the minute it does something they don't like

The best part is that you two will not notice or disagree with each other

>>509408459
Not really a discrepancy.
Republicans will claim to have a monopoly on patriotism while actively calling for the literal break up of the union. Because they see themselves as "real" America, and everyone who disagrees with them as something else.
I'm sure Marjorie Taylor Greene considers herself incredibly patriotic, despite tweeting in favor of national divorce.
I'm sure Allen West calls himself a patriot, despite incorporating secession into his state party's platform.
All things are possible with cognitive dissonance.

>>509403450 (OP)
If you really love your country, the sight of it going to shit will make you angry. If you really love your friend who is an alcoholic, you will not tolerate them drinking or make excuses for them, you will push them in to rehab.