Thread 509436509

Ford is closing plants! Jim Farley, Ford’s CEO, mentioned the company has been forced to temporarily close several plants due to issues with the supply chain. This situation, primarily related to trade tensions between China and the United States, and the lack of key minerals for vehicle manufacturing, highlights the company’s vulnerability in theautomotive industry to global factors.

>>509436509 (OP)
Look at me, I'm Sandra V.

>>509436509 (OP)
All they offer are crossovers and trucks. Fuck ford, they've abandoned me.

>>509436509 (OP)
congradulation trimp

>>509436509 (OP)
But Trump said this wouldnt happen! How can we blame this on Democrats MAGA-sisters?!

>>509436637
they are coming out with old body box frames for f150s, if I wasnt poor id want one

also the real question is how the fuck dodge still exists. I havent seen one on the road in ages it seems

based Chinks squeezing the mutts by their sack.

>month ago
>Canadian plant
>makes EVs
No one cares.

They tried to be friends with the gay community and it looks like they failed lol

>>509436509 (OP)
>supply chain issues
maybe stop charging $100k for a truck that costs $10k to manufacture

Hobby Whitmer and Biden presiding over the complete destruction of my state.

>>509436509 (OP)
Maybe they should raise the prices of their vehicles, while simultaneously eliminating jobs, and cutting quality. Seems like it's worked out great so far.

>>509436509 (OP)
Its over work niggers

>>509436509 (OP)
>make vehicle with dashboards full of electronics
>every model has power everything
>the average worker is broke and there are no economy models of anything at all
>vehicles start $40000+ and have 0 reliability
Rinse and repeat for virtually every automaker in America. It's amazing they have lasted this long, they're lucky boomers are nigger rich spenders that don't care about quality. They never should have been bailed out.

>>509436509 (OP)
Is it true that the American car industry is only failing in Michigan and it's thriving in other states?

>>509437217
electronics are cheaper than mechanical levers and buttons retard. this is just jews overcharging.

>>509436509 (OP)
Thanks Trump. You made us lose a whore Ford plant.

>>509436855
I just want a reasonably sized ranger again

>>509436916
you don't live about beaners

>>509436855
Why the fuck would you want an old F150. They got terrible MPG. I fucking hate truck culture so fucking much as a person who actually uses one for his business.

>>509437561
I doubt it
have you seen how many wires and sensors there are in modern cars? they're not doing it because its cheaper

>>509437217
how can they afford to give 8 years warranty on specific models and 5 for the rest if they have 0 reliability?

>>509436983
Based commie, I agree.

>>509437307
Based accelerationist. Sad that people are losing jobs, but it is for the best

kek, Trump said tarriffs were supposed to move car manufacturing to the US.

>>509437823
those are literal fucking pennies dumbass. it takes much more metal to make everything mechanical

>>509437217
Ford didn’t accept bailout money

>>509437941
nah, you're just a retarded liar

>>509437766
They have the maverick for that. Part of the reason for no tiny trucks is that small vans and UTVs fill the roles they used to fill.

>>509436509 (OP)
"Supply chain" is the excuse for everything now. Fucking faggots. Farley is rubbing his nipples all "we're sorry" and racing in the Mustang series while people lose their jobs kek.

>>509437823
>have you seen how many wires and sensors there are in modern cars? they're not doing it because its cheaper
Hmm, this post seems antisemitic to me, 'Onstar, disable anons goymobile and suspend driving permissions until further notice!'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bcYty7fFs

>>509437941
Have you considered that your post is too informed for /pol/? This is a retarded board.

>>509437289
No, no American manufacturer is exporting. It's all bailouts.

>>509437886
they dont honor the warranty. hyundai routinely drags their feet until you are so pissed off you just sell the vehicle.

>>509438157
exactly

>>509438089
Close but still a bit to big, I hate that every truck has to be a 4 seater now

>>509438014
>>509438160
why is the tesla cheaper than most trucks nowadays? lmao must be those ELECTRONICKS that white people dont understand.

>>509437941
>>509438014
Electronic is not expensive to make. Chinese are selling electronics for cents. Like relatively good earphones for less than euro. Like, older ppl are buying phones for 15 euros here.

>>509437561
Chink chip shortages were a "supply chain" issue for almost every single manufacturer. The parts are significantly more complex to manufacture, and require materials from around the world, including rare earths. Screens are also distracting as fuck and cause eye strain when you drive in the dark for long periods of time.

Please explain how a simple lever or knob is somehow more difficult to manufacture than LCD screens and computers. I'd love to hear this shit. The additional wire harnesses alone would drive up costs.

surely not all these old legacy auto makers can survive going into the future as Chinese offerings keep taking more market share

10 - 15 years ago it was all ford focus/fiestas and Mazda 2 and 3's running around leading the small car sales here

now it is all MG's, Hyundai's and kia's

>>509437886
Those warranties are full of gotchas. Many are "drive-train", so when all the other random $500+ parts break regularly you eat shit.

>>509437941
It takes much more rare materials and expensive labor to take that little bit of material and make computer circuits and shit than just letting a robot put a metal gear in place. Idiot. And the fact is, you still need like 90% of the big metal gears and pieces anyway, you're just adding electronics that is prone to failure and makes a car useless when there's nothing physically wrong with it.

>>509436637
Fuck ford
t.6.0L diesel owner

>>509438239
>they dont honor the warranty. hyundai routinely drags their feet until you are so pissed off you just sell the vehicle.
If you can sell it. They've made cars so overly complicated that hardly anyone outside of a dealership can even work on them. I've seen posts of transmissions costing upwards of 15k. You ever try to chase an electrical gremlin down on a pre 2010s vehicle? Its a fucking nightmare, imagine when something happens to one of these new rolling pieces of shit. You'll have to have a PHD in electrical engineering to change the headlights. Go to a local junkyard and see how many nice cars are there, some absolutely flawless on the exterior, but something happened to them that was prohibitively expensive to fix and it was a better financial decision to literally sell it for parts than it was to fix it.

>>509438519
see >>509438373
dumb wigger

>>509436509 (OP)
Hahahaha total Chinese victory. Ameriniggers are getting further industrialized!!!!

>>509438634
see >>509438373
dumb wigger

>>509437941
The additional wiring harnesses that have to go all over the fucking vehicle to connect all those buttons and screens are made of metal. Copper tends to be more expensive than steel, too.

>>509438763
Further deindustrialized*

>>509438519
>>Please explain how a simple lever or knob is somehow more difficult to manufacture than LCD screens and computers.
Because the aforementioned supply chains. You can just order LCDs and chips from a Chinese catalog. Restarting production of old Made in America mechanical switches would take a decade and hundreds of millions of $.

>>509438785
see >>509438373
dumb wigger

>>509438741
>teslafag
It's cheap because it's a fancy go-kart for groceries. And if you're going to mention the cybertruck as the solution, it's more expensive than most other trucks and it's an atrocity on wheels.

>>509438872
>>509438777
>>509438741
Calm down, we see you being retarded.

Unionized US autoworkers make more so much fucking money I dont understand how you produce vehicles. Why is everything in america in extremes. People either can't join a union, or they can and the union makes sure Jamal gets $350.000/year to repeatedly put 4 bolts in a wheel.

>>509436509 (OP)
>key U.S. plant . . .
Is Ford going to stop adding fentanyl to the cigarette lighters?

all smoke and mirrors, these ceos are just trying to recover from the ev push no one wanted, ford was the least flexible and they have been circling the drain for years. expect for him and mary to go away soon. everyone is moving back to ice and hybrid, ford will be shutdown soon.

>>509438924
the cyber truck has bullet proof glass and is made to tank glow niggers.

your cuck truck is made of plastic and cant tow a cart full of groceries.

>>509439076
China has unions and China's workers get to go to a doctor when they are sick and they also don't live in fentanyl infested shitholes that charge $2,600 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment. I bet it is not the union that is the problem.

>>509439076
lol based jamal making kikes seethe

>>509437886
GM is charging $100k+ for trucks and SUVs with engines that grenade themselves sometimes under 10,000 miles. GM has been replacing broken examples with the same defective type of engine for years. Only recently have they recalled them. Recently an anonymous mech eng from GM confirmed their cars are cost cutting planned obsolescence mobiles

>>509439176
>cyber truck has bullet proof glue

>>509436509 (OP)
>Jim Farley
Why does the shitty one always live? This fucking retard is running the company into the ground.

>>509439337
>Recently an anonymous mech eng from GM confirmed their cars are cost cutting planned obsolescence mobiles
That only dealerships can work on. You know, they have to be 'programmed' when you change out parts now anon, for safety reasons. Oh, you want to work on these cars as a private mechanic? No problem goy, here is the machine you'll need to program it with, 350k please. Your yearly subscription for updates is another 30k a year, but the first year is included in the initial purchase.

>>509436509 (OP)
Fords strategy, current lineup and quality; has failure and danger written all over it.

>>509439458
I agree, although I don't understand why Ford's board hired an office furniture manufacturer as CEO. He was the one who made the decision to cut production of everything but the Mustang, trucks, and crossovers and EV variants thereof. I worked in this industry for many years, and the niggerfaggots in Purchasing fuck everything up. I was one of those niggerfaggots. COST COST COST. ACR ACR ACR. FUCK.

>>509437805
>They got terrible MPG
And the new stuff doesn't? Place I work at had a brand new Toyota Tacoma. Could haul anything in it's tiny bed, couldn't tow, was tiny & uncomfortable to drive/ride in, and got ~17MPG
Sold that POS and got a 20 year old low mileage 3500 Dodge w/Cummins & a manual. I've been getting 21MPG unloaded, and 16MPG towing 10k#

>be modern auto companies
>pretend your american
>every single part of your car is either assembled or made over seas
>put the pieces together in america
>pretend its made in america
>american laws made it "difficult" (i.e you have to actually pay your workers a fair wage)
>say fuck it and outsource everything
>all of this just so NUMBER GOES UP

no american car has been american since the 70s.

>>509437561
Retard.

>>509439798
>no american car has been american since the 70s.
Doesn't block you path because it's still fucking running.

>>509439949
The tire/camber in that picrel looks funny but the truck is solid. I'm not a Chrysler/MOPAR guy but those old Rams look good.

>>509436509 (OP)
Go work another retarded job somewhere else, retard.

>>509437805
i liked the old 150s boxy ones from 80s and early 90s for nostalgia. Yes I know they are shit but Id want one for the lulz. I wont buy one though because they wouldnt have crank windows and not stick shifts like the old ones i liked

>>509440203
Mine 91' 4x4 has >486,000mi. The odometer broke about a decade ago. Original engine, paint is not even broken on most bolts. Just oil & filters.

>>509439711
>buying a dodge
NGMI

>>509437941
Semiconductors to make that shit work are way more expensive

>>509439798
America is a capitalist country. The states raison d'être is to serve the interests of capital (clue is in the name).
American companies fulfill their sacred and legal duty to shareholders by making line go up.

All you losers do is impotently whine about it, as if you didn't have every opportunity to buy shares. You could have taken the proceeds and used it to move to a communist country where you'd fit in.

>>509436598
/thread>>

>>509440669
>Uses a horned ram as it's logo
Jews are so obvious.

>>509440669
Yeah, you're right, I should just buy new things every few years. That will show those jews.

>>509440884
no they’re not you dumb hilly billy hick. just because you dont understand how its made doesnt make it expensive.

>>509441156
The fucking chips don't do the work, retard. You still need actual gears, motors, & such.

>>509436743
MAGAsisters pls

>>509441075
and yet here we are

>>509441275
>da fukin chip dont be doin no work mane
we know wigger its the brain of the vehicle if you even know what that is you stupid hill billy hick christ cuck conservatard faggot fuck

>>509442567
>its the brain of the vehicle
You clearly don't understand the CAN bus system, you urban fucking sheep.

>>509442912
>da chip cant do nuffin if it dont got no wires on it
we know wigger shut the fuck up and look at how expensive wires are.

>>509436977
>key US plant
>canada
huh

>nooooooooo we need cheap chinese crap or we can't exist noooooooooooooooo
Then perish.

>>509436509 (OP)
Fuck Ford. Ford hasn't made a goddamn thing I've wanted since the F-100 and the Ranger.
Every new truck of theirs has to be 80,000 dollars.
Ford's transmissions are all shit.

>>509437207
empty threats to keep wagies from getting to uppity

>>509436921
you sensitive little chinese bitch. I met one of your countrymen on grindr he worked at the Chinese restaurant by my house and i fucked him in his little Chinese asshole

>>509440934
yeah the solution to a dying state is to buy shares that lose value when the businesses collapse, instead of keeping manufacturing local with strong
labor rights to enrich the populace and economy. lol.

>>509443510
Ford moved all their manufacturing to Mexico and states with weak union rights anyways. All Ford hires now is temp laborers and forget joining the union, it's 89 and out and has been for 30 years.

>>509436855
Haven’t all frames been boxed since aluminum bodies?

>>509443297
10r140 is pretty good

>>509436983
Retard. The manufacturer makes way less than that of on the car.

>>509444044
im sure they do fordenstein. we cant forget the new holocaust tax they added to every ford vehicle.

>>509437217
Next car I'm buying a lightly used toyota and running it into the ground. Buying a new American car model was the dumbest decision I ever made.

>>509443982
They're unreliable. Even Chrysler switched over to ZF TRW 8HPs

>>509436509 (OP)
>key minerals for vehicle manufacturing
its almost like cars something in such common usage shipuld be built of common resources. they were building 1971 mustangs there would be no such issue.

>>509436509 (OP)
Nothing to do with them being forced by the prior administration to build millions of electric cars no one wants.

>>509444321
Works on my machine
t. 170k and 105k

>>509438872
>why is the tesla cheaper than most trucks nowadays? lmao must be those ELECTRONICKS
subsidies, fag.

>>509436509 (OP)
ask yourself: how many insurgencies have you seen in the last 20yrs riding around in ford trucks?
this was coming a mile out

>>509436509 (OP)
>global factors
They outsourced everything while simultaneously raising prices. Fuck these greedy domestic auto manufacturers. Toyota employs more Americans than Ford anyways.

>>509444797
like the auto bailout nigger?

>>509436509 (OP)
Make a cheap ass stripped down work truck, idiot

$15,000

Ford plays games where bottom barrel truck is like $100 less that luxury mall cruiser. Then cry’s fowl.. look, see, nobody buys base models

Well fucking yeah, it’s the same price

>>509436509 (OP)
GOD BLESS THE JEW S A

>>509445200
Base is like a 37k truck now not too bad but nobody wants those

>>509445311
I heard them new Ford trannies got HSV cause the gearings and shieeet

>>509445370
HSV?

>>509445311
>$37k BASE isnt too bad
nigger base used to be $7k at most. how the fuck is anyone that isnt making 6 figures supposed to afford it

>>509436509 (OP)
Ohnononono, magats blown the fuck out.

>>509445618
Well considering 20 dollars feels like a 1 dollar bill I don’t consider it too bad.

>>509445618
>how the fuck is anyone that isnt making 6 figures supposed to afford it
This nigga never heard of financing.

>>509446193
>7 year loan
>is in the junk yard by year 5
Don't worry goy! We can just roll that into your next financed vehicle!

>>509445311
>Base is like a 37k truck now not too bad

>>509436509 (OP)
I thought trump was bringing back american jobs :(

>>509437561
>Computer chip that needs to go to a chip fab across the ocean
>Mechanical levers made out of scrap metal
Yeah I’m sure it’s much cheaper to go digital

>>509437766
We need an open-source truck. Everything replaceable cheaply. Everything crude, like a 60's truck. 4' x 8' bed. Sheet metal panels. Design stored on Github.

>>509448407
i've never read something so anti-Semetic in my entire life. absolutely horrific

>>509438677
>t.6.0L diesel owner
and yet your penis will never exceed 4.5 inches

>>509444322
It was brought up on Fox News' Steve Wilco show awhile back. China and America are not overly rich in minerals but China unlike America built up its essential minerals processing capacity so much so that America has to send the copper we mine here over to China for processing which they send back and that's not even all the copper we need. Basically China is the top processor for essential minerals in the world which mostly come from Latin America and other parts of Asia.

>>509446402
>bank gives you tangible goods up front
>give them depreciated nigger notes years later in return
The interest is less than inflation, you're basically playing with house money.

>>509437649
>Thanks Trump. You made us lose a whore Ford plant.
Fuck
Or
Rape
Daily

>>509437805
Does this anon actual think the engine and internal components are going to be dated and not new shit in an old design?

Like you can't actually be this stupid, right?

>>509449008
>tangible goods
A vehicle made in current year
>depreciated nigger notes
You sure as fuck must know by know we are going to war and the Dollar is going to the only fucking thing left of value

>>509449252
He is right i remember watching the fuel gauge drop in real time driving an OBS 150. Modern ones get close to or better than 20 mpg

>>509436916
Dodge doesn't build trucks anymore. Dodge builds muscle cars and sedans only now. Ram is the Stelanis company that builds trucks today.

>>509449622
Fingers crossed the new CEO will kill RAM and and make Dodge branded trucks again. He is bringing back the V8's across the lines.

>>509441555
>555
magabillies
>yeehaw

>>509436509 (OP)
UNIÓNRAYO seems like a trustworthy source lmao. Think for yourselves /pol/acks, and self research.

>>509437805
>They got terrible MPG
Who gives a fuck about MPG? They could get 4mpg highway or city and over the course of a decade you'd still save a ton of money no matter how much you drive compared to running a modern f150. The cam phaser bullshit they all have alone probably washes out any savings you'd gain from the economy improvements of the ecoboost platform.

>>509449919
Doesn't matter if they do. It'll be a pile of shit line of trucks. Everything Stelanis makes is dog shit.
You want a Dodge truck? Go by a used one. It'll be 10x any pile of shit Stelanis puts out today.

>>509451054
I like my 4th gen very much, superb truck but a little rough

>>509436509 (OP)
>temporarily close
>Temporary

>>509451054
I already got my 1st & 3 gen Cummins trucks, and handful of other older stuff. I have zero plans on ever buying anything newer than pre-9/11