What do jews offer the white elites that whites couldn’t do on their own?

A convenient scapegoat for the economic predations of the upper class

>>509454179 (OP)
You can come up with hundreds of retarded hypothetical questions but the fact of the matter is that jews are in power. Also jews are white.

>>509454962
>incoherent seething
Why bother?

>>509454179 (OP)
>A convenient scapegoat for the economic predations of the upper class
Bingo

>>509455084
you are low iq

>>509454962
>Also jews are white.
No

>>509454179 (OP)
>What do jews offer the white elites that whites couldn’t do on their own?

Yes yes goyim!

Sign on the usury line..... er I meant user line, like a good little Socialist.

Muwahahahahha Cackle cackle!

>>509454825
>>509455246
Idk, Hitler blamed them and then fixed their economy.

>>509455351
How would you feel if you didn’t eat breakfast this morning?

>>509454179 (OP)
>Europe under white people
>two thousand years of non-wtop wars

>Europe under Jews
>Almost a century of prosperity and peace

The very first time Jews came to power they gifted Europeans something they could not achieve in two thousand years - peace. After all Europeans had done to Jews, they chose to be compassionate and show mercy rather than go for revenge. Europeans should be building statues to Jews for what they had given Europe.

>>509455447
Hitler relied upon the backing of industrialists and the aristocracy to attain power. They enabled him to attain power largely to prevent the left from doing so, which is why leftoids are constantly repeating that "fascism is capitalism in crisis". Which is not to say that national socialism isn't the correct form of government (it is), nor to absolve the Jews of their penchant for self-interested subversiveness (which they do exhibit), but a monomaniacal fixation on them ultimately serves to obscure how the class interest of the upper classes motivates them to act like the exact same blood-sucking ticks that people pigeonhole the Jews as

>>509454179 (OP)
a de-racialized diasporic peoples without any loyalty easily manipulated by short-term incentives

>>509455447
>Hitler blamed them and then fixed their economy.
Hitler's economy didn't last a significant length of time.
You're like the retards who claim that communism works because the USSR made some technological leaps.
Hitler funded most of his economy by stealing wealth from the jews he killed or deported. His economic policies were basically just capitalism but managed by people he liked instead of jews.
And it was authoritarian because he was the one who would decide who ran things, and it was only limited people of the nazi party.

in other words, he didn't change anything meaningful. He stole and reallocated money. No shit that things seem better that way for a few years.
>>509455352
yeah, they are.

>>509454179 (OP)
jussy

the "white elites" are specifically parasites willing to participate in corruption to enrich themselves at the public's expense
I wanted to say that they're basically jews themselves but that's simply untrue because they have zero ethnic loyalty or allies
the important thing is that in any society that does not vigilantly extirpate corruption, corruption will become endemic, and that is the reason for nearly all of the west's present issues
jews are the largest group participating in this graft whose participants have a common identity and goals, compared to the myriad parasites who gather around them without shared beliefs to bind them

>>509457714
>the important thing is that in any society that does not vigilantly extirpate corruption, corruption will become endemic, and that is the reason for nearly all of the west's present issues
not a single society in the history of humanity ahs been able to do that. Not even your precious Nazi Germany.
None. Corruption is bad, it's also in the nature of humans. Therefore the goal should be to limit the power that institutions can have over an individual, thus minimizing the effects of said potential for corruption.
What you are describing is, not only impossible, but also even more destructive when applied in reality.

>>509454179 (OP)
I see but your pointless rambling in 90% demoralizing threads, see your nose larger than life.

>>509456196
Tay Sachs

>>509458416
>Tay Sachs
that what's wrong with you? congrats on your diagnosis, ig.

>>509458346
How is this ‘demoralizing’? Are you that sensitive?

>>509458600
Oh no, I can't get it, because I'm White. It's unique to jews, what does something like that indicate, do you think?

>>509458914
Literally 1 google search.
>Tay Sachs
>While Tay-Sachs disease is more common among individuals of Ashkenazi Jewish descent, it is not exclusive to this population. Anyone can be a carrier and develop the disease, though the incidence is significantly higher in certain populations, including those of Ashkenazi Jewish, French Canadian, and Cajun backgrounds.
>While less common, Tay-Sachs disease can occur in individuals from any ethnic background.
>Approximately 1 in 27 Ashkenazi Jews are carriers of the Tay-Sachs gene, compared to about 1 in 250 in the general population.
go on, keep making yourself look like a retard for my amusement.

>>509458085
no, it happens in cycles
prosperous and vigilant society gives way to complacency which enables corruption
it starts small and grows as increasingly serious offenses are tolerated and overlooked
eventually it reaches a breaking point and the state is reformed or overthrown, starting from the beginning
if not the state, the "large institutions" will be corporations who wield powers the state refuses to, and it will be the apathetic and corrupt individuals who use them to abuse the public

>>509456196
You cannot sextuple your economy in six years from stolen wealth from kikes alone.
Besides he overhauled the entire money system and pried the banks from the jewish paws, and created a new central bank as a state bank which could issue money debt-free and interest-free, as it should be.

Also jews literally shun honest work as per Talmud, they never do honest work in their lives, all of their wealth is stolen one way or another.
Taking back from jews is not different than taking your bike back from the nigger that stole it.
Hitler was taking from the jews in Germany, he didnt touch the possessions of other jewish thieves anywhere else like in UK or USA.
He only took back German possessions that had been stolen by jews in Germany.

>>509456196
>Hitler's economy didn't last a significant length of time.
Gee, I wonder fucking why.
I guess the reason why palestinian economy isn't doing too well is entirely the fault of the palestinians not working hard enough or something.

>>509459221
>prosperous and vigilant society gives way to complacency which enables corruption
not at all. The example of Nazi Germany is an example of society that wasn't prosperous that gave rise to a corrupt authoritarian regime.
>if not the state, the "large institutions" will be corporations who wield powers the state refuses to, and it will be the apathetic and corrupt individuals who use them to abuse the public
yes, that is why encouraging competition is essential, competition is the mechanism through which control is self-asserted. In an ideally competitive society, no single corporation can attain enough power to become the kind of institution you are talking about, as, as soon as it does, it will be dumped by the market in favor of a company that does not pose such a risk.
Now, I recognize that this suffers from the same problem that I criticized in your initial post, idealism. However, this system is way more achievable than an authoritarian system in which corruption doesn't exist. And way less harmful.
The solution? To slowly move close and closer to that ideal, in the same way an asymptote curve approaches a limit. And to have a government that acts as a regulatory institution where this system fails, but that can also pull out when the system shows capabilities to solve said issue.

>>509460145
No one told Hitler to invade The Netherlands

>>509460191
or Poland
or Austria
or Belgium
or Denmark
or Czechia
or Norway
or USSR
or Yugoslavia
or Greece
or the US
or Luxemburg

Oh geez, looks like Hitler wasn't all that peaceful after all...! Who could have known.

>>509460084
>debt-free and interest-free, as it should be.
long term financial suicide for an economy.
This actually proves my point about how their economy didn't last long enough to be seriously judged. This is the same problem that is experienced by socialist and communist states, they start printing debt and interest free to cover their deficits and end up creating an inflationary mess.
>Also jews literally shun honest work as per Talmud, they never do honest work in their lives, all of their wealth is stolen one way or another.
nonsense. Jewish life in the Pale was characterized by such "honest work" most people made a living as artisans and "blue collar" workers. You have absolutely no fucking clue about what you are talking about.
>Hitler was taking from the jews in Germany, he didnt touch the possessions of other jewish thieves anywhere else like in UK or USA.
>He only took back German possessions that had been stolen by jews in Germany.
this is basically the exact same critique that Marx made of capitalism as a whole. you sound like a commie. Hitler would have likely sent you to a concentration camp.
You have to actually prove that any of it was stolen, not just say it because it makes you feel righteous. There's nothing of substance in your entire post. Not a single argument.

>>509458085
>Therefore the goal should be to limit the power that institutions can have over an individual, thus minimizing the effects of said potential for corruption
Which just results in the formation of exploitative power structures outside the bounds of traditional institutions, which people will then want to use institutions to curtail, producing the same result. The solution to this is to build the institutions correctly in the first place, namely in such a way that they anticipate the ways in which they can be abused to enable corruption. Capitalism and communism both fail in this because they rely upon idealizations of human nature: the former presumes that homo economicus will rationally order things through self-interest via market competition (which he doesn't, because people are not autistic bean counting robots, so it inevitably just devolves into elitist oligarchy), while the latter presumes that the New Soviet Man will act a selfless component of a eusocial bug hive (which he doesn't, because everyone quickly figures out that the unfeeling bureaucracy will gladly just suck him dry and discard him). The solution is, rather, national socialism (or more specifically, an ethnocentric mixed economy): self-interest can find expression in private enterprise, while selflessness can find expression in service to the ethnos, with the former being regulated by the constitutional injunction to not harm the ethnos via economic exploitation and the latter actually being bought into by the population because they organically identify with the collective, which leverages humans AS THEY ARE (tribal) rather than what one might wish them to be

>>509454179 (OP)
They are white, but don't act like it when push comes to shove
>my fellow white men-
>woah, excuse me goy, but my people have a right to exist, and you arent even a fucking people. you cant compare to the greatness of the jew. go mix. you fucking racist. how evil are you? oh I should mix? YOU WANT JEWS TO GO EXTINCT?
>^and then they have their followers chant and shame until the problem is solved

>>509460145
>Gee, I wonder fucking why.
>I guess the reason why palestinian economy isn't doing too well is entirely the fault of the palestinians not working hard enough or something.
this is the same fucking excuse, all the fucking time.
same with the commies
>it didn't work because of the US!!!!
>US sanctions!!!
his plan was flawed, deal with it. Your cope tactics are fucking pathetic.
I also never brought up the reasons why it lasted as little as it did, specifically to avoid this response. I only limited my criticism to it's theory and practice, it still fails in this regard.
The fact that he started a war he couldn't win is just another example of his failure.

>>509460191
The (((Allies))) did. Hitler did everything he could to stop the war, even going so far as to risking the precious bombers and lives of his pilots just so he could drop pic rel to UK that he could get a message across to the British people past the jewish owned newspapers.

But the jewish bankers had made their mind already, Germany had to be destroyed. So they put their puppet Winston Churchill, that debt-riddled gambling degenerate that sold the future of his own kind so he could continue living his lavish live and have the jewish bankers not call on his debts.
>>>/wsg/5906148

>>509454825
yeah.. I'm beginning to finally realize this. jews need white people more than white people need jews. they're are used as a smoke screen in the same way a king hires thieves to infiltrate enemy kingdoms

>>509454179 (OP)
it's not about what white elites stand to gain with jews. it's what they stand to lose if they don't bow to jews.

>>509456196
>Hitler funded most of his economy by stealing wealth from the jews he killed or deported
But he didnt kill any jews?
Also, the ones who were forced to leave germany were always meant to get their belongings back once they reached madagascar

>>509460603
>inflationary mess.
Nope, you are now talking about communists, and communism is inherently jewish.

You can perfectly have a increasing money supply with a set low inflation target like 1% and only print that amount of money and not more.
Its no different than in capitalist system where money is printed, except the control is more rigorous so inflation is better kept in check.

In the current jewish central banking system the money is still printed from thin air, backed by nothing, the difference is that when you "loan" it to existence, you are indebted to the jew that "loaned" it, even though the better word would be "created" because the jew didnt have the money in the first place.
The national socialist system simply removes the jew, prints the money just the same, but you arent indebted to the jew for the principal and interest of the money that didnt exist in the first place.

As Henry Ford once put it, people are not educated on how the monetary system works on purpose because there would be a rebellion and a call for national socialist system immediately if they knew.

>>509460784
It didn't work because the jewish golem forces ganged up on him and bombed the whole fucking country to rubble you fucking retard.

If I kill your father and because of that he is no longer able to provide for the family, does that mean he was a bad provider?
You stupid fucking disgusting filthy pilpuling jew piece of genetic excrement

>>509460712
>both fail in this because they rely upon idealizations
>proceeds to invent a system that relies on an idealization of human nature.
anon... please try not contradict yourself in the same paragraph the next time you want to make an argument.
The system you are talking about has failed in the past. Not just in Nazi Germany, but in many other ethnocentric communities, even the jewish ones.
>AS THEY ARE (tribal) rather than what one might wish them to be
nope, this is an oversimplification and an erroneous assumption. It's even using the concept of "Tribe" in the wrong way, as you are defining a tribe merely as people of the same ethnicity. But the Nazi racial psaudoscience fails at dealing with the fact that both genetic an ideological differences WITHIN MEMBERS OF THE SAME RACE are just as wide, if not wider, than the differences between members of different races.
Unlike yours, my assertions are supported by actual scientific evidence post the mapping of the human genome.

In other words, you're provably literally just coping.

>>509454179 (OP)
They have always been brought into the respective countries by the leaders with the task of controlling and manipulating the population. So no, if you have a leader who acts in your interests, nobody needs them.

>the chilean kike is going crazy again

>>509454179 (OP)
If the economy runs we don't need Jews. All we need is God and algorithms. We don't need kikes.

>>509461060
Yeah the whole holohoax is just jewish propaganda. Hitler was kind to the jews, too kind. He even put the brownshirts in line after they got too rowdy during the kristallnacht.
Hitler didnt want to massacre the jews, if he did he could have just done that.
He simply wanted them the fuck out. That's why he even made concessions to the zionists that the jews would be able to keep their loot as long as they fuck off, to make everything go more smoothly.

As for the concentration camps, the attempted German revolution by jews during WW1 that lost them the war is conveniently forgotten in kiked history books as the reason why jews needed to be put in camps so they wouldn't attempt it again in WW2.

>Jews sabotaged Germany during WW1 and started a civil war
It happened in 1918 and lasted nearly a year. German jews led an army of communists attempting to establish a communist nation in Germany during the crucial months of WW1. Countless German lives were lost and nationwide chaos exploded because of the jewish subversion. Thus, WW1 was lost.

Now do you understand why jews were treated the way they were in Nazi Germany? They had to be controlled or they would start ANOTHER civil war and kill millions of innocent German citizens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Levi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Levine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Luxemburg

Similar attempts happened all over Europe, people even think that the Bolsheviks just "gave" Finland its independence, when in reality the kikes instigated a Red revolution here too and we fought the bolsheviks for the independence
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
But unlike in Russia, the Whites won. And that's why Winter War happened, because the bolsheviks tried again.

>>509454179 (OP)
Nothing. They are irrelevant.

>>509461065
>You can perfectly have a increasing money supply with a set low inflation target like 1% and only print that amount of money and not more.
>Its no different than in capitalist system where money is printed, except the control is more rigorous so inflation is better kept in check.
are you fucking stupid? then that already existed, so Hitler didn't create anything.
Also he can't freely print money, if he is limited by such conditions.
The monetary policy that you are advocating for is the same kind of monetary policy that JEWISH thinkers have advocated for in modern times.
>In the current jewish central banking system the money is still printed from thin air, backed by nothing, the difference is that when you "loan" it to existence, you are indebted to the jew that "loaned" it, even though the better word would be "created" because the jew didnt have the money in the first place.
The national socialist system simply removes the jew, prints the money just the same, but you arent indebted to the jew for the principal and interest of the money that didnt exist in the first place.
anon, you realize that the need for ptinting money is because the state doesn't have the resources to fund their projects, right?
Your 1% inflationary target is completely meaningless if the state doesn't have the resources needed to maintain it's economy with the current monetary mass. Ofc it sounds great in theory, but it doesn't work. God this is a retarded argument.
>>509461139
>If I kill your father and because of that he is no longer able to provide for the family, does that mean he was a bad provider?
yes, because through his actions he endangered the entirety of the family. Quite literally the definition of a shitty leader lmfao

>>509454179 (OP)
The Jews bring insane amounts of money from all over the world into the US economy. The Jews are the reason why you're overpaid by doing exactly the same work as Europoors do, let alone shitholers like me. Jewish Google and Facobook sell ads to the whole world, Pixel phones, Jewish Warner Bros sell movies, Jewish Qualcomm sells advanced chips, Jewish Bloomberg sells financial data and trading tools. You name it.

Without the Jews you're just a bunch of stupid obese crackers on par with Russians and Ukrainians.

>>509461359
Which is also the reason that there has been no census in the usa since 1945 that counted the jews. The 5-6 million european jews all went to the usa.

>>509461359
People never talk about how USA put the Nips in the camps even though unlike the jews who have tried to instigate communist revolutions, the Nips had done nothing, but were put there just as a precaution.
Completely normal procedure to intern potential hostiles to prevent acts of sabotage or insurrection.

The only difference is that nobody was bombing USA, their country wasn't burning and supply lines being bombed to shit so the Nips didn't starve like the jews in the camps did.
Still the Germans gave them what they could even though everyone was starving due to the Allied bombings, their dedication to humanity far above their enemies.
The (((Allies))) also bombed many of the camps directly, because due to all the facilities in the camps they didn't think they could be prison camps but rather training camps for the soldiers.
I mean who the fuck puts swimming pools, hospitals, theatres, showers and gyms to a wartime prison camp? The facilities were so good they were mistaken as barracks.
You can btw see the bombings from many of the liberation pictures, the photographers obviously made sure to keep the bomb craters out of frame but you can see the damage in the background being clearly from aerial bombs, due to trees all bowing in the same direction and having branches stripped as they are affected by a blast wave

>>509461359
there are many documents proving the existence of the final solution as a policy.
about 80% of deaths caused by the USSR were done under Stalin, who hated jews.
The collectivism present in Nazi theory is no different than the one presented in Communism.
Your attempts at labeling "communism" as jewish are also provably retarded. If fascism is the natural opposition to the jew, how do you explain the many jewish supporters that voted for Mussolini's rise to power? It's almost as if people of an ethnic group can hold different ideas!

>>509461740
We live in a post-bellum world
We lost and now we are an occupied and enslaved people
Unless we awaken from this deathly slumber and purge the scum from our lands i fear that we will be wiped out within the century

>>509461554
No, the system isn't same. In the current system when the money is printed you "loan" it from the jew. No the jew didnt have the money, but you created it by loaning it from him. Now you owe him the principal and the interest. This is where the international jew derives all its power.
In a State Bank system the money is printed the same, but you don't owe it to anyone. Massive difference. In fact, the massive interest payments that are being paid to the jews for "loaning" the money is hindering economic development because the jew did not produce any input, no labor or value in the system for its profits.

>>509461906
National socialist doctrine is the acknowledgement that everyone should live in peaceful ethnostates with their own people, and not live in other people's countries.
And the economic policy side of it is to structure the economy in a way that disincentivizes parasitism like rentiering, and also shuts out foreign investors, keeping all the prosperity inside the nations borders, no international jew stealing the profits that your people worked for.
Money will be printed debt-free interest-free by the State Bank, instead of the current central banking system where the money is created by "loaning" it from the jews, i.e. you are on the hook to jewish private bankers for the loan and its interest even though it came from thin air.
>https://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder.pdf

There is absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about people feeling more comfortable and inspired when being surrounded by people like themselves. In fact, it’s what is best for everyone intellectually, emotionally, physically and spiritually.
When communities are homogeneous, there is an instinctive obligation to look out for one another. Society goes from zero sum adversaries to cooperative big families.

People are happier; civic engagement explodes; prosperity is more evenly distributed and enjoyed and culture flourishes.
It’s all been definitively proven by all sociological studies and the entirety of human history.

>>509461903
Jews are now trying to speedrun the last days of Roman civilisation.

People are noticing now, and this is why jews are going all in with genocide now. There's no turning back, and they know that if they don't finish the job, the reckoning against them will be the final one. There won't be a 110th country that expells them, but their desire to eradicate our bloodlines will be returned in kind. There can be no living with a people who collectively tried to exterminate a race, which is why their fears of returning nationalism are genuine.

The whitepill is that jews have completely lost their minds with their aggression. They've dropped their subtlety and are just belligerently waging both physical wars of extermination as well as their controlled op puppets like Trump taking the mask off with being kalergi plan multiracialists. We either get wiped out or they do before the century ends.

>>509461906
>In a State Bank system the money is printed the same, but you don't owe it to anyone.
anon... I already explained why this is retarded.
You run into the need of short-term injection of cash. Your 1% inflation goal is meaningless. The economy will either become stuck, or be forced to print money.
How are you not getting this? No wonder you think the current system is corrupt, you can't even understand it.

>>509454962
>jews are white

>>509461840
>there are many documents proving the existence of the final solution as a policy.
Exactly zero documents. That is one of the most damning evidence against it existing considering not a single document about any exterminations was ever found anywhere.
Germans did keep meticulous records in the camps though and kept tally of all prisoners in and out, deaths and births, and other data, which was also reported to the leadership.
And British had the Enigma machine and could intercept these too without the Germans knowing, and the Brits were listening to the German communications and also documented them, not a single mention about exterminations in those either.
And of course no physical evidence was ever found. Only physical evidence of a hoax, like the chimney of the supposed "death ovens" that actually leads to nowhere. It was used as photo "evidence" in nuremberg kangaroo court. For some reason the soviet kikes never dismantled that now clear evidence of a hoax, maybe they thought USSR would never fall and nobody would ever find out.

Not directly related, but the "generalplan ost" the supposed expansion to the East also never existed, it was "found" aka forged by a polish jew 14 years after the war.

>>509461840
>many documents proving the final solution
Post one because the enigma machine literally found zero.
>Stalin hated jews
He supported jews almost entirely. Only later in the revolution, after the crimes of the communists party and the percentage of leaders that were jewish sending people to the gulags, did he finally come to his senses.

>>509461840
>Your attempts at labeling "communism" as jewish
It's literally invented by a jew. Karl Marx who wrote the Communist Manifesto is jewish.
Lev Trotsky and Vladimir Lenin the main instigators of the revolution, both jews.

Communism is a jewish ideology through and through, the ideology being appropriating the assets of the rich gentiles and moving them to jewish paws, and killing off the leadership of gentile nations and handing it off to jews.

>>509461204
>proceeds to invent a system that relies on an idealization of human nature
Hardly. Humans are a mix of selfish and selfless. You need to allow for the former without letting it get out of control, and encourage the latter to the greatest degree possible, the best way to achieve which is by playing upon the circuitry already in everyone's heads to help the tribe (which cannot be extended to humanist universalism, because if you don't define "them" then there's no "us", and basing this categorization upon blood is the easiest and stablest way to do it)
>that both genetic an ideological differences WITHIN MEMBERS OF THE SAME RACE are just as wide, if not wider, than the differences between members of different races
t. retard. Any given European is vastly more genotypically similar to any other European than to any given African or East Asian. This forced meme relies entirely upon the observation that there's a great deal of genotypic variation in Subsaharan Africans and thus it's a bit of an oversimplification to categorize them all as monolithically "black", but then erroneously (read: disingenuously) extrapolating that to the conclusion that every other racial category encompasses a similarly wide genotypic variation

>>509462299
>Exactly zero documents. That is one of the most damning evidence against it existing considering not a single document about any exterminations was ever found anywhere.
single most retarded thing you've said so far and that's amazing.
>Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, explicitly refers to the extermination of the Jews:

>“I am talking about the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people… this is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and shall never be written.” - Himmler
>This is the record of the Wannsee Conference, where high-ranking Nazis coordinated the Final Solution. It details plans for the deportation and murder of Europe's Jews. The language is bureaucratic, but it is unmistakably about genocide.
>SS officer Gerstein, who oversaw the delivery of Zyklon B to camps, wrote a detailed postwar confession describing gassings at Belzec and Treblinka. His report includes technical details consistent with forensic evidence.
>Rudolf Höss, commandant of Auschwitz, confessed in detail to overseeing the gassing of over a million Jews. He described gas chambers, crematoria, and the process of extermination.
>Zyklon B residues have been found in ventilation systems and walls of gas chambers (e.g., in forensic studies by the Auschwitz Museum and Polish Institute of Forensic Research).
>Blueprints and construction documents for crematoria and gas chambers, some signed by SS engineers.
that's not counting the forensic evidence all of these are nazi documents.

>>509461840
There is nothing bad about collectivism, White people are in fact naturally collectivist.
That's why we do things like not dump our garbage to the nearest forest but pay garbage disposal fee and dispose it properly even though it doesnt help us personally in fact it costs us more to do the right thing, and only helps the collective.

The thing about national socialism is that it truly is collective, about bringing up the people.
Communism is fake collectivism, its about bringing in foreign hostiles that do not share the collectivist genetics but are only looking to leech.
They never intend to do the hard labor, thats for "others", while they are the commissaars and gulag overseers living fat on other peoples labor while doing none of their own.
Communists are nothing but thieves but with a jewish PR department.
National socialists are the opposite of thieves, they are people that want to throw the thieves out and build a community with their own people. There is literally nothing wrong in that except in the eyes of the very parasites that do not want to live with their own kind but live in somebody elses nation

>>509462352
You will never be shown any documents from them because there are none. Instead, they argue with alleged statements and absurd interpretations. If someone were to claim something today with such a level of evidence, the same people would call him a conspiracy theorist.

>>509462361
>Marx was jewish
see? this is why your claims are retarded.
This is completely meaningless. Marx hated jews, even if he was one, ethnically. Your claims are simplistc and devoid of nuances and subtance.
>Lev Trotsky and Vladimir Lenin the main instigators of the revolution, both jews.
I can point just as many jews who opposed such kind of regimes. And, like I said, most of the atrocities committed by the USSR were Stalin's doing, AFTER he ousted basically all jews in positions of power and massacred a few thousand others.
>>509462392
>Any given European is vastly
>vastly
lmao
>which has since been confirmed with genome-wide data — is that about 85–90% of human genetic variation exists within so-called "races", while only 10–15% exists between them.
15% is somehow more cast than 90%?

>>509454179 (OP)
>What do jews offer the white elites that whites couldn’t do on their own?
low interest loans

>>509454825
zionist bootlicker

>>509462602
>National socialists are the opposite of thieves, they are people that want to throw the thieves out and build a community with their own people. There is literally nothing wrong in that except in the eyes of the very parasites that do not want to live with their own kind but live in somebody elses nation
except when it comes to lands and resources. As they are obligated to steal from others to satisfy their needs when they aren't able to do that by themselves, as it's stated in Mein Kampf
lmao
Also as it's stated in the plan to displace all slavs from their land and deport them to Siberia, while mass murdering them through slave labor.
All of that and I haven't even gotten to the part where we argue about the fact that collectivism is retarded.

>>509461903
There is no scenario in which white people are going to be "wiped out" short of genocide or literal state-mandated racemixing. There are a billion of us and the minimum viable population from which an arbitrarily high number could be "reconstructed" is, conservatively, 1,000 people. The only question is how much formerly ethnically homogenous territory is "lost" in the sense of becoming multiracial economic zones, but this policy's legitimacy has already largely evaporated and territorial reorganization along ethnic lines is inevitable once globohomo (already teetering) is no longer able to dedicate the gigaton of resources and attention is currently is to enforcing it

>>509460183
nazi germany was the revolution against the compromised weimar republic
every government has some corruption, but hitler reformed the state significantly, improving citizens' lives, and claiming that their entire industrial organization was owed to a pittance of jew gold is a sad joke

competition like that only exists under state oversight, because it is well demonstrated that the public will not stop patronizing bad business if it remains expedient for them to do so, and successful, consolidated businesses can provide cheaper service than decentralized competitors
and because there will always be someone willing to take a bribe, and because those people are disproportionately attracted to government service, corruption becomes an inevitability

society doesn't "slowly move closer to the ideal", it slowly decays between flashes of brilliance
the form of government is irrelevant, it's just a cycle of revolutions against the ruling body with whatever tools the reformers can grab at

>>509462911
That doesn't contradict what I'm saying

>>509462911
And Lenin wasn't even Jewish by Nazi Germany's own laws

>>509463143
>There is no scenario in which white people are going to be "wiped out" short of genocide or literal state-mandated racemixing. There are a billion of us and the minimum viable population from which an arbitrarily high number could be "reconstructed" is, conservatively, 1,000 people.
Okay, I like whites and I actually would like it if they become a majority.
"Billions" is just inaccurate though. And under the nazi view of who is "white" then it's more like a few tens of millions

Having said that, whites should have more children. And stop importing jeets and mudslimes.

>>509462512
>extermination of the Jewish people
Deliberate mistranslation. In fact the holohoax rabbit hole in this one goes so deep as their desperate attempts to fabricate a proof of any document of extermination, is that the jewish Safra banking family literally bought the Encyclopedia Britannica and changed the meaning of the German word "ausrotten" to "exterminate". Yeah, the jews go that fucking far to make up their narrative.
In reality it means "root out", and any German speaker knows this but kikemany has put holohoax laws that deny them the ability to speak about it.
Anyone that knows even a bit of German knows that the word obviously means "root out" though, as in expell.

>The language is bureaucratic, but it is unmistakably about genocide.
No, it is not unmistakably about genocide. It is about expelling them, always was. Nazis never hid the fact they wanted the jews out, who wouldn't. Thousand other European leaders before them wanted them out and expelled them, the problem with a rat infestation though is that they often come back.

>nuremberg confessions
Extracted with extreme genital torture, zero probative value. Their confessions were full of inconsistencies they just wanted the torture to stop and finally die.
CIA has actually done extensive research on this that in their use of torture they only could mostly extract false confessions and nothing of value.
And the methods used by the (((allied))) torturers during nuremberg were far more brutal than CIAs methods.

>zyklon B
Used literally all over the world at the time to delouse clothes and people from lice that spread typhus.
In fact due to supply issues as the war went on, running out of Zyklon B is what caused a lot of people to die because of typhus because they couldn't be deloused.
Those gas chambers with wooden doors, its impossible with those cans of zyklon they had to even make a sufficient concentration of it in a shower room to kill anyone, causing mild irritation at most.

>>509463322
Billion, singular, and not using the various meme definitions that restrict "whites" to a single village in rural Sweden or whatever

>>509463312
>And Lenin wasn't even Jewish by Nazi Germany's own laws
I didn't know that but that's even funnier lmao
>>509463232
yes it does. your "vast" differences aren't vast at all, in fact they are entirely the opposite. There's a bigger amount of genetic variation between members of the same group than between 2 members of different groups.
In other words.
>On average, A and B will be slightly more similar genetically than either is to C. But that does not mean A is "vastly" more similar to B than to C. In fact, due to random variation, C could be more similar to A than B is, depending on the specific regions of the genome.

>two burger kikes and a chilean kike pass the balls to each other while they claim to be white
Lmao. This fellow white shit gets never old.

>>509463522
https://youtu.be/VhmPqkp_dW8

>>509462512
>forensic evidence
No such thing. These things have been went over a million times here in 4chan yet you jews just keep lying and lying until you are dead. Holocaust did not happen, but it definitely should have.

First the jews claimed that all camps were "death camps" giving mountains of false testimony until every single camp that was investigated it was found that it was just a bunch of jewish lies, and no death camps existed.
The ONLY still remaining unverified claims fell to the soviet side, where the jewish soviets didn't allow allied investigators to come, if that didnt happen we wouldnt even be discussing this as the investigators would have found those claims to be false right then and there too, like all the other claims.

By simple math its clear to anyone that its simply impossible that so many jews could be burned in the little capacity of crematoriums they had, so the jews quickly shifted gears from "they burned it all" to "they buried them all".
Yet after numerous searches and excavations, no bodies were ever found in any of those camps.
If those graves actually existed, the jews wouldn't be putting up holohoax laws and trying to impede investigations and questions but they would have excavated those graves and shown the evidence to the world.
But you cant find evidence of something that didnt happen, no matter how much jews try to fake it. You cant fake mass graves though.

>>509462911
>even if he was one, ethnically
Ethnicity is all that matters.
If anything the secular jews are even worse criminals than the observant ones, if possible.
All the jewish mafias were mostly from secular jews, not observant ones.

>>509455937
>pretending that any new currency promised/secured not to be j*w rigged won't absolutely moon. Lmao
It's why Germans were so persecuted during that time.

>>509461434
Then why bother working with jews then?

>>509463312
That's true. I don't myself agree with the blood laws of Nazi Germany, they didn't consider 1/8 jews as jewish.
Nazis were too lax, obviously a single drop of that poison is too much, and one drop rule should apply.

>>509463522
It's all so tiresome.
I should take my own advice:
One should never argue with jews, but kill them.

>>509463334
>Extracted with extreme genital torture, zero probative value. Their confessions were full of inconsistencies they just wanted the torture to stop and finally die.
>CIA has actually done extensive research on this that in their use of torture they only could mostly extract false confessions and nothing of value.
>And the methods used by the (((allied))) torturers during nuremberg were far more brutal than CIAs methods.
conspiracy theory
Also the Wannsee Protocol is dated 1942 3 years before the Nuremberg Trials.
>No, it is not unmistakably about genocide. It is about expelling them, always was. Nazis never hid the fact they wanted the jews out, who wouldn't. Thousand other European leaders before them wanted them out and expelled them, the problem with a rat infestation though is that they often come back.
this is not only just an interpretation not backed by any evidence, but also contradicted by the forensic evidence.
Your entire argument isn't empiric, but more like "IF this is what they meant, then..." which isn't an argument at all.
>In reality it means "root out"
what happens to a plant when you root it out? It dies.
>>509463501
fair enough.
does that mean that jews born in europe are white? genuine question. where's the line?

>>509463638
>No such thing. These things have been went over a million times here in 4chan yet you jews just keep lying and lying until you are dead. Holocaust did not happen, but it definitely should have
sigh*
>Treblinka: Ground-penetrating radar and archaeological digs (e.g., Dr. Caroline Sturdy Colls, 2013) confirmed large pits filled with burnt remains and human bones. Nazi records confirm up to 800,000 Jews murdered here.

>Belzec: Forensic investigation found 33 mass graves, some up to 6 meters deep, with bone fragments and ash.

>Sobibor: Excavations have revealed gas chamber foundations and mass graves.

>inb4 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! IT'S JUST FAKE B-BECAUSE... IT JUST IS!!!

>>509463916
Yes, Ashkenazim and Iberian Sephardim are

>>509464123
>Yes, Ashkenazim and Iberian Sephardim are
sure, at least you are consistent.

>>509463501

>>509463519
he was like 1/4 Jewish at best and according to Nuremberg laws that's eligible for full Reich citizenship

>>509454179 (OP)
In a market that's extremely monopolistic and leaning on Jews because of their positioning, it's almost impossible to not cooperate with them if you're an elite.

>>509454179 (OP)
Jews own the monetary system. Control the money and you control the country.

>>509463916
>torture is a conspiracy theory
Nope, many of the allied guards and other people involved admitted to it. Its not disputed, torture was used. The bodies of the executed Germans had visible marks of torture like crushed testacles.

>Wannsee Protocol
Is about relocating the jews out of Europe unquestionably. Only jews are trying to interpret it as "extermination" even though none of it implies that

Its funny because we can examine the evidence to never say anything you jews say it does.

Here is the full documents from the Wannsee conference
>https://www.ghwk.de/fileadmin/Redaktion/PDF/Konferenz/Wannsee_Protocol_German_English_200214es.pdf
It's obvious to anyone that its not about extermination it literally talks about emigration through the whole document.

>does that mean that jews born in europe are white
No, a rat born in a barn is not a horse, Shlomo. You are trying to push such retarded idea though to goyim.

You are jewish.

>>509464063
>Treblinka: Ground-penetrating radar and archaeological digs
Found nothing. So now you are claiming that it did. Are you digging this bullshit from ((AI)) or where are you getting these ridiculous statements from?

>Nazi records confirm up to 800,000 Jews murdered here.
May I see these records?

>Belzec, Sobibor mass graves
How many jews were put in there, to put in millions of jews you'd need like 50 sports stadiums worth.
Of course some people died, no one is disputing that. The Nazis kept meticulous records how many died.

>gas chamber foundations
How do gas chamber foundations differ to regular foundations?

>>509464123
You are jewish and no you are not white.
"Sephardic" jews are literally arabs and "Ashkenzi" is just an arab plus stolen White DNA.
Neither of them are any more European than a mixed spawn of a Congo nigger and a Swede is.

Ethnogenesis of the ashkenazi "jew"

>indian gypsies leave india
>split into two groups
>one went to europe and became called the 'roma', which they still are called today
>another went to arabia and mixed with east african capoids
>ventured north to levant, they became called 'canaanites' by the existing population, the canaanites moved to outskirts of town, worshipping their cow-god moloch
>after few centuries, in ~600AD, canaanites take parts of christianity, mix in parts of their ancient pajeet religion (f.ex. cow-god Moloch in jewdaism, mecca saturnus cube in pisslam), make mixtape out of it
>in fact two mixtapes, judaism and islam
>canaanites split into two by religion, now they're called jews and arabs
>at this point jews and arabs are indistinguishable and brown as the jews haven't stolen European genes yet.
>islam spreads, centuries pass, now its the Ottoman empire
>jewish (still brown) merchants are inside byzantine (eastern roman empire)
>jews help the muslim invaders to invade byzantine, provide intel, open gates from inside, join the invaders in the massacre
>constantinople falls, hagia sophia is crudely transformed from a church to a mosque, today is called istanbul
>jews are rewarded with the wives and daughters of the slain Christian men of Byzantine
>jews rape these women and children repeatedly
>captive white women bear the jews half-white rape babies
>half-white rapebabies inbreed with each other
>"ashkenazi" jew is born

>>509464998
>It's obvious to anyone that its not about extermination it literally talks about emigration through the whole document.
oh really?
>Unter entsprechender Leitung sollen nun im Zuge der Endlösung die Juden in geeigneter Weise im Osten zum Arbeitseinsatz kommen. In großen Arbeitskolonnen, unter Trennung der Geschlechter, werden die arbeitsfähigen Juden straßenbauend in diese Gebiete geführt, wobei zweifellos ein Großteil durch natürliche Verminderung ausfallen wird.
>Der allfällig endlich verbleibende Restbestand wird, da es sich bei diesem zweifellos um den widerstandsfähigsten Teil handelt, entsprechend behandelt werden müssen, da dieser, eine natürliche Auslese darstellend, bei Freilassung als Keimzelle eines neuen jüdischen Aufbaues anzusprechen ist.[71]
From the literal German, here, Eichmann admits to the inhuman conditions leading to mass deaths and references the fact that they have to keep the remaining jews from living on, as, were they to be freed, they would be the seed the seed for resurgence.
The ONLY logical conclusion for this, is their death.
So, he admits that their forced labor will directly lead to mass deaths and then admits to the necessity and therefore planning for the killing of the surviviors.
>No, a rat born in a barn is not a horse, Shlomo. You are trying to push such retarded idea though to goyim.
this is the most retarded analogy ever.
>didn't address the forensic evidence.

>Nope, many of the allied guards and other people involved admitted to it. Its not disputed, torture was used. The bodies of the executed Germans had visible marks of torture like crushed testacles.
again, this is just a conjecture, doesn't make their testimony any less real. But psaudoscience is at the heart of Nazi ideology.

>>509454179 (OP)
White elites in the Anglosphere reached a post-historical progressive consciousness by about 1900. World War 1 destroyed the vestiges of national feeling and Aristocratic influence in Western Europe.
Willingness to participate in ethnic conflict is a characteristic of a people that wants to exist in the world, and the white elites are world-weary on account of their contempt for life in this world. This is because the religion of our age is a perverted form of Christianity and Christianity is fundamentally eschatological and hostile to life in this world. This left white elites in a condition where they were completely incapable of justifying their existence or role on earth. What's more, they don't even want to. This left them ripe for takeover by world Jewry, which in terms of progressive consciousness will forever remain behind whites. This is because everything they do, all of their words and philosophies are ultimately motivated by ethnic interests.
tldr; progressivism turned the best and most intelligent whites into angels on earth, beings that aren't meant for this world and that refuse to participate in its struggles

>>509465809
> therefore planning for the killing of the surviviors
Now thats your jewish mind twisting it again.
He simply says that the strongest jews will survive and by natural selection, upon release they will be the nucleus of the new jewish population.
Literally talking about future jews.

>>509465956
But again I don't agree with the Nazis here. They were definitely too kind, as can be seen from you existing, you being all the way in Chile leeching off the good Chileans. Disgusting parasites have now infested the whole world.

The Nazis were too kind and its unfortunate that the Holocaust did not happen. It definitely should have.
I don't agree with their plans that the world is safe by simply relocating the jews.

>>509455894
If you knew anything about the history of Catholics vs Protestants, you'd know who was behind European wars.

>>509455352
How am I supposed to read this?

>>509466041
>The Nazis were too kind and its unfortunate that the Holocaust did not happen. It definitely should have.
>I don't agree with their plans that the world is safe by simply relocating the jews.
you disprove the argumentation of the Nazis not being evil by in the same breath calling for the the extermination of a people.
but anyway,
Eichmann in reference to the Wansee Report.
>There was talk of killing, eliminating, and exterminating. In fact, I had to make the preparations myself to draft the minutes. I couldn't just stand there and listen. But the words did reach me.
>Eichmann condensed his records into a document describing the purpose of the meeting and the regime's intentions going forward. He further stated that it was edited personally by Heydrich, and therefore reflected the message he intended the meeting participants to take away.
So, not only does he admit to the discussion of the idea of genocide, but also admits to the editing of the final document.
>>509465356
which part of this is contradictory to the idea that jews are the hebrews? The OT only makes a distinction between both peoples in terms of rites and cultures. Archeological evidence suggests that YAHWEH was orginally a canaanite deity. Furthermore, the Bible itself states that the land of canaan was populated by one of the descendants of Noah, thus making them related. So, this tracks.

>>509454179 (OP)
>What do jews offer the white elites that whites couldn’t do on their own?
Tips and tricks on saving money. Also good lawyers to keep them out of the nigger zoo (read:Jail)

>>509465241
>Found nothing. So now you are claiming that it did.
sigh*
>Targeted excavations were carried out in 2013 in order to confirm the nature of some of the structures identified in the geophysical survey results. Deep sand and rubble deposits were identified in specific areas of the site. This material appears to have been levelled across the former death camp area, likely in an attempt by the Nazis to hide their crimes. Earlier evidence was identified beneath these deposits, including in situ structural remains.
>An apparent structure measuring 22 x 15m was identified in the Ground Penetrating Radar survey, undertaken in 2010. Targeted excavation in the middle of this area in 2013 confirmed that this structure was the Old Gas Chamber building. The discovery of tiles, sections of wall and other building furnishings proved that this building was modelled on a bathhouse. The tiles found were manufactured by Dziewulski i Lange.
>Cremated and non-cremated human remains were located on the surface of the extermination camp area and also during the excavations. These remains were scattered remains, not buried in mass graves.

>>509465241
>Found nothing. So now you are claiming that it did
should I post more? it's full of this stuff. While you only have a pic of an already debunked study from 1999

>>509454179 (OP)
Cunny

>>509468594
>study from 1999
I must correct this. He never published a study. Bro went there and just said he didn't find anything when he came back, and had absolutely no proof of his findings. He never published anything. He even claimed that his findings would be published in a book, but almost 20 years later, such book has yet to be published...

>>509467162
>There was talk of killing, eliminating, and exterminating
More nuremberg bullshit. "Confessions" extracted by torture and threats towards family are not valid

>>509468262
>building was modelled on a bathhouse.
Yes, it was a shower.

>Cremated and non-cremated human remains were located on the surface of the extermination camp area and also during the excavations
How much? Again, the existence of cremation and burials is not disputed, people died of diseases and typhus, meticulous records were kept of this all.

>>509454179 (OP)
Punishment-free child rape

>>509469306
>More nuremberg bullshit. "Confessions" extracted by torture and threats towards family are not valid
this isn't from Nuremberg. Eichmann was tried many years after and there is no evidence that he was tortured.

>>509468594
Sure, post your sources too.
All pre-war documents about exterminations and all the solid physical evidence of millions of bodies, and the calculations how that would be physically possible in the given timeframe

Note that out of the 19 original claims of death camps, 13 of them were investigated and found to be false, while 6 were left uninvestigated due to investigators not being allowed on site.

So the logistics of 6 million jews were killed in 6 camps, the calculations how this was done is of course the base, like making the case its even theoretically possible in this physical world, not just in a jew's twisted mind.
Then of course its not enough that its theoretically possible, the physical evidence of 6 million bodies would be somewhere and be found and presented as physical evidence.
But start with how its theoretically possible and then show the solid evidence that it actually happened.

>>509469541
>Eichmann
>no evidence that he was tortured.
Oh you mean the man who Mossad tracked to the house of his family in Argentina and then kidnapped and brought to israel.
How they'd threaten that Mossad would kill his family too unless he gave a false testimony to corraborate the jewish false narrative of the holohoax?

>>509469651
>Note that out of the 19 original claims of death camps, 13 of them were investigated and found to be false, while 6 were left uninvestigated due to investigators not being allowed on site.
by who? the same kind of lying historians as Krege?
>sources
>Sturdy Colls, C. 2015. Mapping Nazi Terror: Archaeological Investigations at Treblinka Extermination and Labour Camps. Proceedings of the Archaeology of Violence: Archaeology of War, Archaeology of Mass Violence Conference, France. [In French] Sturdy Colls, C.2016. Une cartographie de la terreur nazie : études archéologiques dans les camps de travail et d’extermination de Treblinka. In: Guilaine, J. and Semelin, J.Violences de guerre, violences de masse.Une approche archéologique.Paris:Le Decouverte.
>Sturdy Colls, C. 2015. Finding Treblinka: An Exhibition of Forensic Archaeological Research. Exhibition Catalogue. Stoke-on-Trent: Staffordshire University.
>Sturdy Colls, C. 2014. ‘Gone but not forgotten: Archaeological approaches to the landscape of the former extermination camp at Treblinka, Poland’, Holocaust Studies and Materials 3.
Meanwhile your source a guy who literally has only said:
>trust me bro
>>509469766
>Oh you mean the man who Mossad tracked to the house of his family in Argentina and then kidnapped and brought to israel.
Yep, his family was never threatened. His son has attested to this multiple times. He even met with one of the agents that kidnapped Eichmann.
You are literally coming up with bullshit as you go.
There is also no evidence of physical punishment, he was actually taken to a medical facility to ensure he was in perfect condition.
>HE WAS BRAINWASHED, THREATENED AND MANIPULATED!!!!!
somehow he was the only one threatened, because his brothers are neo-nazi leaders who have suffered 0 physical consequences as the ones you are suggesting
lmfao