lol. lmao even.

>>509493413 (OP)
noob gains, as /fit/ would say
When you're at the bottom the only direction you can go is up

>>509493413 (OP)
Why are Americans such cucks for China? Just don't give them your money lmao.

>>509493413 (OP)
When you are a third world economy who finally adapts technology, this sort of thing is common. EVEN. Fuckin fag.

>>509493413 (OP)

>>509493413 (OP)
Xina won.
>>509493651
>>509493523
c0pe

>>509493413 (OP)

the USA gains are all inflation from the money printer

>>509493413 (OP)

Also the USA will invest money in tech companies that are non-profitable for years on end, marking it on spreadsheets as "GROWTH" then the company files for bankruptcy, never having made a single dime. Rinse/repeat with the "AI" market

>>509493413 (OP)
It's easy to grown your economy when you are dirt poor, anything will move the needle
Only China, Canada and the US are impressive here

>>509493413 (OP)
When your start from scratch it's normal retard

>>509493413 (OP)
Am I the only one that hates the GDP-idolatry?

There is no international trade without the USA allowing it by not actively sabotaging the just-in-time supply chain. China’s economy is export oriented as a result of their inverted demographic pyramid. China will collapse after the USA sabotages international shipping by no longer policing sea lanes while arming pirates. All nations must be on board for the just-in-time supply chain to function. Any disruption no matter how small is catastrophic. One bad actor can ruin it for everyone.

>>509494081
Yes, you are the only one.
I wish there was some law requiring any publication including GDP figures to also include this pic.

>GDP
Lol
I mean, if your just gonna come out and say your a kike...

China is full of shit but the USA loves a bogeyman so they prop up the lie

>>509493413 (OP)
Now let's compare total government debt. Short term borrowing in China is increasing double digits month by month. The provincial governments hold 80% of the debt but make no money

>>509495033
> total government debt
No government is ever going to pay down their debt. It's a joke.
"Paying down the debt" means throwing money into a furnace, nothing else. In effect that means the destruction of money, which will result in deflation, or an increased value of the currency (on paper, in reality deflation would set the economy into shock as people would hold on to money instead of spending it). National debt is really just a measure of inflation.
National debt = nation created this much money to pay for stuff = more money in circulation = nation "owes" something? probably not

>>509493413 (OP)
I wonder how the future looks without USAID money flowing into those countries.

(((Infinite growth))) is a jewish delusion that only benefits shylocks (did I pronounce that right?)

>509495694 more
There's always more shit going on with economics. You can kind of control inflation by producing more shit. Money is supposed to represent the total amount of goods and services available. (When car production hit the shitter in 2020-21 the price of cars spiked, this is looking at supply and demand from the opposite angle than normal.) So if you make more money, but the economy is producing more too, then there's an illusion that the price is staying the same even though the supply keeps increasing (pro-tip this is also why your wages are so low, the pay is "the same" and the labor supply keeps increasing).
So the game in western civilization is to create money ("debt") to facilitate more production (programs, incentives, infrastructure), and hope it all balances out or winds up in your favor. But this is a petri dish civilization where it just consumes everything it can until it runs face first into barriers. Back when you could just invade the next nation and take all their shit and land that could keep the petri dish going, but there's no more European wars in the atomic age (Ukraine is a land grab, not a total war, Putin wanted Ukraine intact), and no more native American lands to pillage. The realization that the old petri dish model is incompatible with finite resources has not actually been realized.

>509496792
and the golden age of the 1950s on was partially financed by the rebuilding of Europe through loans from the United States, which was effectively winning the war and looting the enemy nation BY PROXY but definitely didn't look that way to anyone young experiencing the wealth, living through it (boomers)

>>509493413 (OP)
That's bullshit except for the third world country. You'll never convince me that European countries are 40% or even 70% richer than what they were in 2003

>>509495694
>National debt is really just a measure of inflation.
lmao. They wish, retard. The next highest after China is Japan. Both are in deflationary spirals. What debt does is run up borrowing costs and freeze activity.

>>509497299
The GDP doesn't measure actual wealth, it only measures the market value of finished goods that are produced in that year, and services sold. Governments just use it as an estimating tool of economic strength and tax collection.
Anyway it has its flaws.
Every year Nation A builds an apartment block for 10 million dollars out of stone and it will be useful for the next 300 years.
Nation B builds 100 homes out of cardboard for 10 million dollars that will need replacing in 30 years.
Nation A will eventually be full of durable wealth (Europe) but Nation B will still be dirt poor but have a higher GDP. You might want to think of the USA for Nation B but China is a better example, they're mandated to raise GDP and the go-to is to built ghost cities out in nowhere. They might get sold for real estate investment or just demolished later, often both

>>509497413
read
>>509497849

>>509497893
Kill yourself retard, your post isn't even the same subject. You can just admit you don't know what debt is or its effects.

>>509493869
Did you fail basic math? Be honest

>>509493523
Based

>>509493413 (OP)
>current prices
These numbers are conflated by inflation and currency exchange rates. If you want to measure economic growth only, you have to measure in constant prices.

>>509493524
jews used hostile takeovers to take control of Wall Street in the 80's and sent all of our manufacturing over to china, the reason they did this is because they said the US is too anti-semitic. China hangs a big picture of a jew above their Politburo so that should explain everything.

>>509493413 (OP)
>going from artisanal crafting in homesteads to industrialized factories leads to more rapid growth than finetuning industries that have been in place for a hundred years
Woah.

>>509500526
Pure projection. Kikes look for profit in China at the expense of mutts.

>>509496121
You guys need to start getting better consumer protection laws like europe.
https://notochina.org/how-to-tell-if-a-product-is-made-in-china-on-amazon/
Please for the love of god pass this bill so we can all avoid chinese crap on amazon.

>>509493413 (OP)
this is basic economics, the higher the gdp gets the lower your growth will get. You would reach a stalemate without growth if you continue in a timeframe till infinity
t. economist

>>509493413 (OP)
>>509500542
we have industry for 100 year too, retard. the difference is that ours got blocked and starve by the big farmer kikes and then later, commies that continue to do so.
since our leftism has origins in europe, so does their obsession with bureaucracy.

And yet every time it rains in china their cities flood. How strange.

>>509493524
>he fell for the chink propaganda
It's amazing that anyone gives china the benefit of the doubt on anything with how renowned their lying is.

>>509493972
>impressive
burgers have less industry than 20 years ago, there was even that one famous science burger youtuber ringing the bells that they almost lost the ability and know-how of how to create injection molds or whatever the tech was.
much like huezilian the burger younger generation is more interesting in getting rich being famous instead of working in machine shops.
Surprising, I thought they had workshops on their schools programs.

>>509501077
>Pure projection
No, you do hang a big picture of a jew over your Politburo over there. Don't lie to yourself.

>>509493413 (OP)
when you already way behind its easier to have massive gains. It's possible China and India will stagnate like USA is doing.

>>509493413 (OP)
GDP is fake because of the following:
>government spending is not a product and in nearly all cases is a net drain.
>consoomer spending is also not a product and is also a net drain and malinvestment.
>investment doesn’t exist and is a bunch of wallstreetbets style speculation driven on the back of fake money printed by the Fed.
>exports don’t exist unless of course you mean sending money and weapons to Israel and Ukraine and paying denbts to China.
So real GDP=$0

>>509502314
i'm on your side, but food for thought, why is predictive value not a valid way to estimate the worth of the economy? predictive value explains dept as it describes the debt being used to fund new tech/services/manufacturing/other jobs.

imagine you have a field, a piece of land but it is empty. the value of that land would be higher if it had a building on it. so you take a loan to raise the value of the land by building on it, it also creates jobs for construction pipeline which trickle down themselves. i know im retarded and "predictive value" is not a real term but still

>>509493413 (OP)
buy Brazil already, CHINA!

yes developing economies grow faster then developed economies. Groundbreaking revelation anon, amazing work. Your 9th grade econ teacher would be proud.

>>509502773
go back to india, jeet.

>>509493413 (OP)
GDP is growing up and inflation is on it's back. 1$ 2003 != 1$ 2023

>>509494694
This

>>509493413 (OP)
Thinking GDP growth in dollar terms misses the truth.
Japan's economy was at its worst from 2000 to 2005, and since 2010 it has become easier to live in every year.
Thanks Abe.

>>509493413 (OP)
So, GDP is proportional to how much of a shithole your country is??

What the fuck is GDP and why does it matter??

>>509493413 (OP)
Make Nippon Great Again

>>509493413 (OP)
USA's 20 year GDP growth 135%
>USA population in 2003 = 290 million
>USA population in 2023 = 335 million
USA's 20 year population growth = 115%
basically USA has only grown a paltry 1% per year per capita

>>509493413 (OP)
How did America grow so much? I remember Europe and America in the early 2000s, everything in America seemed so cheap and salaries there were about the same as in Europe.

Now Europe is a cheap playground for Americans to visit while being unaffordable for Europeans

>>509504248
The US population has grown 15%, not 115% are you retarded? 115% growth would mean more than doubled

>>509493413 (OP)
>Shitzil
>281%
I think they forgot to put the minus sign in front of the number

>>509493413 (OP)
What can we actually infer from this image?

>>509504626
Europe never recovered from 2008 thanks to retarded policies from commies
>2012 cyprus bank bail-in
>"whatever it takes"
>germany deindustrializing because a 50 year old nuclear reactor in japan took damage from a tsunami

>>509493523
FPBP
The top two contributions to China's lead are fabricated statistics and IP theft.

>>509504248
>american education
>>509504626
top USA companies in 2006 were ExxonMobil, Walshart, General Motors, Chevron, Ford
oil, cars and a supermarket dont generate much growth
now its big tech, Microsoft, Apple, Alphabet, Nvidia, Palantir etc which have huge profit margins and unlimited growth potential.
europe has basically no big tech to compete with, especially as USA risk appetite always means euro companies get bought or relocate there if they become successful, like deepmind which was bought by google when it was getting successful. basically US investors and gov always throws unlimited money and tax breaks at companies which have potential

>>509505328
Meant to include OP >>509493413 (OP) for the image

>>509505328
>you wouldn't download a car!
yes I would

>>509493413 (OP)
1% of USA is 30% of another country

>>509504626
If only american salaries were that high, we'd get our tech jobs back.

>>509504626
Its missing 99% tax goes to Israel for the muttgolem.

>>509493413 (OP)
Seem rich when you are poor seem poor when you are rich - Sun Jew

>>509493413 (OP)
Everyone point and laugh at Israel’s favorite golem

>>509506823
Thats america lol

>>509493413 (OP)
Its a damn tragedy when I see Japan. In 90s Japan was like the China who was meant to surpass USA.

do these numbers actually mean anything in the real world?

>>509500526
>jews used hostile takeovers to take control of Wall Street in the 80's and sent all of our manufacturing over to china,
Yeah sure in the 80's...Fuck off kike
You country is ruled by kikes since it conception

>>509506908
no, japan is just an island with no resources and a normal amount of people, they don't have a unique situation to surpass US

>>509493413 (OP)
it's easier to go up from nothing.. see bitcoin and memecoins

>>509494879
They have good production rate, which makes sense because they're a huge nation that has spent a very long time using manufacturing as one of their main national focuses.
I really don't like the CCP, but I really don't want to fight China because in the best case scenario, it's still going to be a disaster.

>>509504626
>Junior Developer
Try maybe 80k. In 2018, I couldn't get anything other than consulting to consider me, and they wanted to pay me 50-60k. I got better offers from the fucking military. I came out of a Tier 1 university. Salaries have been massively deflated by remote work and, of course, H1B billets.

>>509507027
>You country is ruled by kikes since it conception
Now there is the real projection. Just embrace the jewish origins of the CCP, it's ok, the jews have made them quite wealthy. Look at that GDP.

>>509493413 (OP)
Really easy to grow your GDP when you don't have to comply with the Co2 regulations of the G20 that you're a part of.

>>509508075
it's enough for two cowboys to eat each other's shit, you don't need think about C02

>>509493413 (OP)
China and Indonesia are the only ones gaining real infrastructure.

Pajeets are Fraduing their growth like Murrica.
Both India and USA are degenerating.

>>509503875
Definitely not this

>>509502734
How this works in Burgerland is like this: some greedy kike gets a 0% or near 0% interest NINJA type loan, goes and buys some blighted piece of land and then just sits on it for decades until it goes up 100x in $ terms and then sells it to some other kike developer who builds some godforsaken strip mall on it that then goes bust in a matter of a few years time because diversity comes in and tears it all up. Then some regional bank gets stuck holding the loan for the now vacant stip mall. Mr. Kike and friends then proceed to short the bank and buy it up with their bigger bank for cents on the dollar.

>>509493413 (OP)
>Russia: 303%
Sure would be nice to feel some of that growth.

>>509508719

Nah infrastructure here is growing. But the problem is manufacturing.

>>509493869
That's really not cope. That said, without abysmal western trade policies with China since about 1995 their growth would have been dramatically hindered, and western growth would have been larger. Credit to the chinks, they leveraged the greed and retardation of our leadership and have successfully been waging unopposed 5th generation warfare to their great benefit. That's rapidly being responded to now, better late than never.

>>509512635
Pajeet structure isn't real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrakuj7aGbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6lFXYmEH4I
All your shit is flushed own the toilet every rain season.