Back during the agricultural revolution that began around 10,000+ years ago, people changed, over a period of several millennia, and adapted, gradually, to life as farmers instead of as hunter-gatherers. There is plenty of archaeological evidence of executions during the agricultural revolution, probably because humans that didn't want to fit into the new way of life, with all its stratification and kings and nobles and priests etc., had to be eradicated because they weren't biologically suited to the new system. So humans evolved to be farmers at that time; those who didn't have the genes to fit into now highly stratified, sedentary societies had to be killed off. In medieval and early modern Europe, there were also a lot of executions, especially around the start of the Industrial Revolution when Britain instituted the "Bloody Code" and had more than 200 capital offenses on the books.
At the start of the First Industrial Revolution, those unsuited to the new way of life had to go bye bye, either by killing them or by them choosing not to reproduce. 90 years ago, the industrialized countries like Britain, Germany, France etc. had seen their fertility rates drop to replacement levels. If World War II hadn't occurred and there was no Baby Boom afterward, then advanced societies would have been where they are now, with regard to sub-replacement fertility, in the 1940s and 50s.

What's happening today is the social system is becoming more stratified, more intrusive, and many people cannot adapt to it; their genes are unsuited to this new way of life. So they are not reproducing. But some people continue to reproduce, and they are the ones whose genes are suited to submission in the new society where all activities are spied upon, people are kept at subsistence wages, and life is a grind just to survive.
We're seeing natural selection in action. Those who are reproducing are creating children whose genes are compatible with the new society.

Have sex incel

>>509507019 (OP)
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And those who are not reproducing are just the people whose genes are unsuited to the new society. So their genes will disappear while those whose genes are compatible with living in a total control grid will continue to exist and will replace the folks whose genes are incompatible with the total control grid.
We do not need to worry about a so called "fertility crisis" because, just as with the beginning of the Agricultural Revolution and the Industrial Revolution, the folks who are not suited to the new way of life are choosing not to carry on their lines, while people who can survive and thrive in the new system are reproducing and populating the new system of total control with compatible humans.
The process of regaining balance in the new system might take a century or more, which is a very short time compared to the Agricultural Revolution, which took a couple millennia to go from hunter-gatherer bands to full blown New Stone Age towns and cities ruled by kings and high priests. Within a few centuries, all the humans who are alive at the time will be well adapted to the new total control grid high tech society, and those who couldn't hack it will have died out.

>>509507252
I lost all interest in sex during my upper 30s and didn't care much for it before that. I'm fine, thank you, and being without a libido is remarkably liberating.

>>509507019 (OP)
>and adapted, gradually, to life as farmers instead of as hunter-gatherers
so what are we adapting to now, life as youtubers and tik-tokers?

>>509507019 (OP)
No.
The "fertility crisis" is just the "Mouse Utopia" trying to correct itself. The problem is that (((capitalists))) keep importing more and more 3rd world retards to keep "labor costs down" so that the jewish chart line can always go up.
Even when people have ZERO children their lives are still getting worse and worse.
When they finally realize this, that's when you get the "German solution" to your societal problems.

>>509508188
Then why was fertility plummeting in all industrialized countries from the late 1800s until the Baby Boom? There was no third world immigration back then. The US had a lot of European migrants, but Europe didn't, and all advanced countries were set to drop to sub-replacement fertility levels by the 1940s at the rate that fertility was falling.
The only reason advanced economies didn't fall to sub-replacement levels 80+ years ago and weren't in the situation we are in now is because of World War II and the ensuing Baby Boom.

>>509507416
Near mid 30’s and more or less the same. I have casual sex quite often, but it doesn’t really give me much, to the point where I’ve startet to reject women. Probably due to being in two long term relationships for the past 10 years, which is much more fulfilling.


The problem is that Norwegian dating is more or less have sex first, then get to know each other. And Norwegian women don’t want children before well in their 30’s, hence throwing away my 20’s on the wrong girl, and now having to sleep around to find gold among women desperate to have children asap, as they wasted their 20’s.

The fertility rate is not rocket science
1. Birth control
2. Women postpone it until it’s to late due to career and self-fulfillment
3. Too many choices, everyone is looking for the perfect match and throw away perfectly good relationships on the way, then settle in their 30’s as the options are gone, and it’s too late have more than 1 child if even that.

>>509507770
We are adapting to life in a total control grid where electronic/digital technology is used to monitor and control all aspects of life.

>>509507019 (OP)
>>509508635
It's much simpler than that. It's just the effect of widespread obesity.
Fat fucks are less fertile than normal people. And fat nations deserve to die out.

>>509508582
Ted Kaczinsky wrote about how the people in industrial society will eventually lose all their natural instincts, including the drive to procreate

natural selection i when a dumb bitch in india get eaten by a tiger, not when inflation and mass immigration by brown retards price normal people out of things that were normal for 10000 year until jew invented usury

you fucking jew

>>509507019 (OP)
>Those who are reproducing are creating children whose genes are compatible with the new society
Things are changing to fast for the reproductive strategies that are working now to necessarily work for the next generation. For instance one of the pressures now is a lack of suitable males to father children. As a response to this females don't mind sharing a high value male. This is something that has happened before except during the times this happened before there wasn't this widespread use of contraceptives and abortion so this polygamous strategy isn't creating children like it did in the past. Due this uncertainty and failure of older reproductive strategies it is unlikely that we will see a reversal in population collapse until our technological civilization has collapsed and we are back to subsistence living without all the modern amenities we take for granted.

>>509508582
So world war 2 fucked everything up then

>>509507019 (OP)
Nu/pol/ is never at its most retarded than when it attempts to apply its own warped morality to science and evolution. A largely jewish theory thats poorly understood even by actual scientists by the way.

>>509508635
i want to take a trip to norway to fuck and ghost 33yo whores who were hot in 2017
>they're desperate
reaaaaaally not my problem

>>509507019 (OP)
There's nothing natural about what's happening to people.

>>509507019 (OP)
Possibly
I’m not sweating it

>>509507019 (OP)
Equating the changes of life from the agricultural revolution to the life changing implications of a one world government power grab is complete nonsense.
Totalitarian control is completely synthetic and driven by greed for power and money; Satan.
The changes brought by the agricultural revolution were completely organic and driven by a human adapting to thrive from a divine scheme.
The reason why people are not having kids is because of 3 main factors:
1. Woman being brainwashed into thinking that being a mother isn't the best they can do with their lives
2. Dopamine overload (video games, porn, scrolling the feed, drugs) - People's attention span has been destroyed because of it and can't think about the important decisions for their future like having a family.
3. Chemical imbalances. Micro plastics, GMOs, hormones being messed up.

There's plenty more, but I'll keep it carnal.

>>509507019 (OP)
There is no fertility crisis. if people don't want children, they don't need to have them.

We need another war to get it going again and the economy better just like ww2

>>509508582
>Then why was fertility plummeting in all industrialized countries from the late 1800s until the Baby Boom?
Because "industrialized society" is not natural and makes people miserable. The misery was kept to a low level because the falling birth rates made labor more valuable. When industrialization started in the 1880's people were forced to work 15 hour days with no safety for mere pennies. Anarchists and violent revolutionaries were everywhere. It was only the falling birth rates that "stabilized" things to some extent.
But then, in the last 50 years, the (((capitalists))) realized they can keep the price of labor down by importing infinite shit skins, which lowers the value of labor AND makes every other societal problem a thousand times worse.

Also the Baby boom (1945 - 1965) followed nearly 20 years of depression + war economy where no one had any children. The value of labor became sky high, and suddenly people felt secure and comfortable enough to have lots of children.
Most people don't feel that way anymore. A lot of people have nothing, they have nothing to lose, and the system not only doesn't help them, but seems designed to keep them fucked forever. People like that don't care if they burn it all down.

>>509509834
Trump tried to start one with Iran but you faggots complained

>>509507416
You are a eunuch, it's not based fren, it's even in the apocalypse.

DNA doesn't control behavior

>>509509281
>it is unlikely that we will see a reversal in population collapse
Of course. Depopulation is the goal.
>our
our?
>technological civilization has collapsed and we are back to subsistence living without all the modern amenities we take for granted.
Why would people let go of technology?

>>509509910
>Because "industrialized society" is not natural and makes people miserable. The misery was kept to a low level because the falling birth rates made labor more valuable. When industrialization started in the 1880's people were forced to work 15 hour days with no safety for mere pennies. Anarchists and violent revolutionaries were everywhere. It was only the falling birth rates that "stabilized" things to some extent.
>But then, in the last 50 years, the (((capitalists))) realized they can keep the price of labor down by importing infinite shit skins, which lowers the value of labor AND makes every other societal problem a thousand times worse.
>Also the Baby boom (1945 - 1965) followed nearly 20 years of depression + war economy where no one had any children. The value of labor became sky high, and suddenly people felt secure and comfortable enough to have lots of children.
>Most people don't feel that way anymore. A lot of people have nothing, they have nothing to lose, and the system not only doesn't help them, but seems designed to keep them fucked forever. People like that don't care if they burn it all down.
Best comment yet!

Foreigners invading your home and raping your entire family because you're all starving after one unlucky plague or famine is also natural selection. It doesn't mean they're better or smarter than you, just luckier, and the same thing might happen to them a thousand times in a cycle.

Natural selection is bullshit anon. "Shit happens, get over it" is not a philosophy.

>>509510107
I vowed myself to God, as a celibate, at age 20. I have kept that vow and, even before vowing this, I had little interest in sex.

>>509513077
>"Shit happens, get over it" is not a philosophy.
Isn't that what Stoicism is all about?

There are a lot of complex factors at play, but overall I think that whatever parts of our nature are tied to what we call pride or dignity, linked to behavior we identify as "self-sufficient" or "independent" that some might call "wild" have been and will continue to be pacified through the constructs of society. I don't think it's a coincidence that races that some call soulless or bug-like have historically also been the most prolific.

>>509512687
>Why would people let go of technology?
All of our modern technology relies on interlinked complex systems that will not survive depopulation. Within a decade or two of reaching the point of no return the general level of development will fall back centuries, apart from some leftover tools and the occasional off grid power setup that is left in tact. Another hundred years after that nothing will be left, and with all the easily accessible energy resources like oil and coal not there anymore we won't re-industrialize.

>>509509910
Please reiterate these points in other threads too. It's important that people learn what you have said here, because this is the real reason for cratering fertility.
Kudo, fren. You have my respect.

>>509514564
>All of our modern technology relies on interlinked complex systems that will not survive depopulation. Within a decade or two of reaching the point of no return the general level of development will fall back centuries, apart from some leftover tools and the occasional off grid power setup that is left in tact. Another hundred years after that nothing will be left, and with all the easily accessible energy resources like oil and coal not there anymore we won't re-industrialize.
Good point. Yes, we might be nearing peak "development" or peak industrialization and, as you say, we might go into a Dark Age of sorts where most of today's technology is lost.
It won't happen simultaneously across the world, but in different places at different times, depending on when the fertility bombs really hits each region.

>>509507019 (OP)
billions must die

>>509507019 (OP)
Good post, bump.

>>509514564
>All of our modern technology relies on interlinked complex systems that will not survive depopulation.
I think you may be overestimating the extent of the ongoing depopulation or the essential number of people humanity needs to maintain and develop itself. I don't think it will unfold as you predict.